WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:05.280 You're listening to kf I Am six forty wake Up Call with me Amy King 2 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:12.439 on demand on the iHeartRadio apps. It's time for your morning wake up call. 3 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:28.399 Here's Amy King. This is your wake up call for Tuesday, August 4 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:32.799 fifteen. I'm am King. Good morning. Thanks for waking up with us 5 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:36.359 this morning. Here's what's ahead on the wake up call. The district attorney 6 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:40.520 in Fulton County, Georgia's as former President Trump was part of a criminal conspiracy 7 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:45.640 to overturn the state's twenty twenty election results. Trump has been indicted on felony 8 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:52.159 racketeering charges and more. Wildfires in Hawaii have now claimed at least ninety nine 9 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.719 lives. Governor Josh Green says more than eighty percent of the buildings destroyed in 10 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.600 the fire last week we're homes. Former NFL player Michael Orr, who was 11 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:06.840 the inspiration behind the Oscar winning movie The blind Side, says he was never 12 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:11.879 adopted by the Twoeys and has filed a petition to end the conservatorship they have 13 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:15.359 over him. At six oh five. It's handled on the news. Now 14 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.000 you see it, now you don't. When it comes to Trump charges posted 15 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.640 on the Fulton County website. Bill's gonna dig into that, but let's get 16 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.079 started with some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. 17 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.040 Former President Trump and eighteen others have been indicted in Georgia over alleged efforts 18 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:36.719 to overturn the state's election results in twenty twenty. Fulton County DA Fannie Willis 19 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.640 says arrest warrants have been issued for those charged, including former White House Chief 20 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:46.799 of Staff Mark Meadows and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani. I am giving the defendants 21 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:53.480 the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than noon on Friday, the twenty fifth 22 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:59.680 day of August twenty twenty three, Willis says. The ninety seven page in 23 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:04.359 dipe and includes forty one felony counts. She says each of the defendants have 24 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:08.000 been charged with racketeering. We're gonna dig a little deeper into that with Stephen 25 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.919 Portnoy with ABC. He's going to check in with us in just a couple 26 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.039 of minutes. More resources are being sent to the island of Maui to assist 27 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:20.479 in the recovery of human remains. Officials say they didn't really understand the gravity 28 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.800 of the damage and destruction until the dust settled. Mauie Police Chief John Pelletier 29 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.120 says his officers have been overwhelmed. We started with one dog. We're at 30 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.319 twenty. We're calling move as fast as we can, but we've got the 31 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.919 right amount of workers, the right amount of team teams doing it could ever. 32 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.240 Dog teams from the Eli County Fire Department and Orange County Fire Authority are 33 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.159 among the twenty dog teams deployed to Lahinah. At least ninety nine people have 34 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.520 been confirmed killed, with hundreds more unaccounted for. On the island of Maui. 35 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.159 Steve Gregory kf I News. Steve just mentioned he is on Maui. 36 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.280 We're gonna be checking in with him throughout the day here on KFI, so 37 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:59.639 no need to go anywhere else. Homeowners in wildlife risk areas of Orange County 38 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:05.199 can't get a discount on homeowners insurance by fireproofing their homes. The Fair Plan 39 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.479 has become the first and the only option in some areas. State Insurance Commissioner 40 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:13.520 Michael Saaler says that state insurance plan is offering discounts starting this month for a 41 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.759 list of ten protections, including a fire protected roof and clearing vegetation around the 42 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:22.360 house. You see again and again firefighters going into communities having to pull things 43 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.840 away from homes. Saler says the number of homeowners in Orange County who must 44 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:29.919 get the more expensive state insurance is doubled from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one. 45 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.840 He says commercial policies will be required to offer similar discounts by the end 46 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:37.879 of the year in Orange County. Corbin Carson ka if I news so Cal 47 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.879 Gas has agreed to pay one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars in penalties for 48 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:47.000 misleading customers about natural gas. Attorney General Rob Bonta says the settlement is tied 49 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:53.199 to unqualified environmental marketing claims the utility made in twenty nineteen. The company said 50 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:58.639 natural gas is renewable. The Bonta says the claims are misleading because most of 51 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:03.159 the gas distributed by Gas is not It is derived from fossil fuels. The 52 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:08.159 La Hunty Sheriff's Department has asked for the public's help in solving four cold case 53 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:12.719 murders. Sheriff Luna says four men were killed between two thousand and seven and 54 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.600 twenty eighteen in East La Compton and Santimus. For several years, the families 55 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:21.480 of these victims have been looking for closure to the painful nightmare that they have 56 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:28.959 been suffering through, Luna said yesterday. Rewards ranging from ten thousand dollars to 57 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.079 twenty thousand dollars have been approved by the Board of Supervisors. Officials say the 58 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:40.600 department's homicide Bureau is handling about forty five hundred unsolved homicides. Former NFL player 59 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.000 Michael Orr says the inspiring story of his life that led to the movie The 60 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.360 blind Side is based on a lie. He says, Sean and Lean too, 61 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.639 he tricked him into making them his conservators, alleging they've now made millions 62 00:04:51.680 --> 00:05:00.639 of his name and likeness. ABC's Brian Clark says Or wants compensation injunction to 63 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.759 block the family from profiting off his name and image. Or was a first 64 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.240 round NFL draft pick and Super Bowl champion, but best known for being adopted 65 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:14.360 by the wealthy family in Texas. Let's say good morning now to ABC's Stephen 66 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.240 Portnoy. Stephen, another day, another indictment. Let's dig into what he's 67 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:24.240 charged with this time, and this time He's not alone. It's nineteen co 68 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:29.920 defendants charged an a racketeering scheme. Here a forty one count indictment handed up 69 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.399 late last night in Atlanta, Georgia by the Fulton County District Attorney, charging 70 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.519 the former president, his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, his personal 71 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:42.360 lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, Jenna Ellis, and a 72 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.519 raft of others with a raft of crimes. The grand jury here in Fulton 73 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.800 County says that these co defendants conspire to have false statements made, to have 74 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:56.199 forgery committed, to have state officials pushed into violating their oaths of office, 75 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:01.839 and some Trump supporters are charged with impersonating public officers for signing the certificates that 76 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:06.439 claims that they were the state's duly chosen electors. It is a sweeping indictment, 77 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:11.160 and the allegation is that Donald Trump was at the height of a criminal 78 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.800 enterprise. This is a racketeering case. Legal experts we've spoken to say that 79 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:23.480 this puts the president in real criminal peril, potential years of jail time, 80 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:28.560 and the district attorney here has said that she is going to give the defendants 81 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:32.959 until the end of next week to turn themselves involuntarily. So that's ten days 82 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.639 from now. I don't know whether all nineteen defendants will be arraigned at the 83 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:41.120 same time, but Fannie Willis did say that she intends to charge them all 84 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:46.240 together and to have this case begin within the next six months. Okay, 85 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:51.319 And so you just mentioned that they're charged together. So the forty one count 86 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:57.279 indictments are against all of them or are there some separate ones for different people. 87 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:04.040 Well, the way the racketeering law works here, each of the defendants 88 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.319 is charged with being part of the scheme, but not each of the defendants 89 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.000 is charged with the underlying crime. So, for example, of the forty 90 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.519 one counts, I think thirteen of them applied directly to Donald Trump, he, 91 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.279 for example, is not charged with impersonating a public officer, but he 92 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:27.279 is charged with conspiring to have a solicit of state officials and to violate their 93 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.560 owns. So you know, inside this indictment, which runs nearly one hundred 94 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.680 pages, we were up very late last night reading it, you have one 95 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:39.720 hundred and sixty one individual acts named. Not all of them, by the 96 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.000 way, occurred here in the state of Georgia. Some of them occurred in 97 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.519 other states, but Fannie willis it doesn't matter where it happened. It was 98 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:48.879 a multi state conspiracy to violate the laws of Georgia, where certain acts were 99 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:53.560 taken in furtherance of the scheme, which was, in her words, to 100 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:59.439 accomplish the illegal goal of allowing Donald J. Trump to seize the presidential term 101 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:03.439 of office beginning January twenty twenty one. Now, the defense is going to 102 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:09.439 argue that district Attorney's trying to criminalize the First Amendment rights of the former president, 103 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:15.399 that while he was in office, he was reaching down into the states 104 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.480 because he had an interest as a candidate, because he was president of the 105 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.079 United States, and the interest in seeing to it that the laws of the 106 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.439 country are faithfully executed. That he was simply trying to not just speak freely 107 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:31.920 under the First Amendment, but in particular pursue his right to have his grievances 108 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:39.000 redressed with government officials. But the prosecution will argue that the former president corruptly 109 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:46.279 schemed with eighteen other people to have false statements made, to have before state 110 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:52.039 legislators, to have false documents signed, to forgery committed, to have state 111 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:58.399 officials impersonated, particularly the electors. So legal experts say that the former president 112 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.080 could be in some serious legal trouble here. And there's nineteen of them, 113 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:09.559 so theoretically, or maybe not theoretically, they're all going to be standing in 114 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:13.200 a courtroom at the same time if the trial gets pulled off in six months 115 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.639 like she wants it to. I'm not certain about that. I'm really not 116 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.919 sure. Okay, well, I'm sure that we're going to be watching this 117 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.000 one incredibly close. Thank you so much for staying up late, reading through 118 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.279 everything and getting us the latest information this morning, Stephen, you're mad. 119 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.399 Okay, it's five ten on your wake up call. Got your coffee? 120 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.480 I got mine. I'm having an extra this morning. I know that Stephen 121 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.360 said he was up late last night. I was up a little late for 122 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.039 me because of as this word was coming out that we were going to hear 123 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.519 the indictments and we were going to hear it. I wanted to see what 124 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.559 was going to happen. So late for me this now like eight o'clock at 125 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.240 night. I know. But anyway, I hope you have your extra coffee 126 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.879 too. But let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the 127 00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:00.039 KFI twenty four hour newsroom and Orange County Superior Court judge charged with killing his 128 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.759 wife at their home in Anaheim Hills is due in court for a bail hearing. 129 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.200 Judge Jeffrey Ferguson was released on bail after he was arrested August third. 130 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.759 Prosecutors today are expected to ask for restrictions. The hearing is being held in 131 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:16.200 LA but is still being handled by the Orange County DA's office. Police and 132 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:22.600 Glendale have arrested a Pepperdine Law School employee who allegedly arranged to have sex with 133 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.799 a teenage girl. The man was set up in a sting operation by a 134 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:30.799 group known as the Creepcatcher's Unit, who bade and catch alleged child predators online. 135 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.799 The group's founder, who calls himself Ghosts, says using a decoy account, 136 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.440 CC unit made it clear the man was talking to a thirteen year old 137 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.919 girl. He started talking about your warny little girl, and you know, 138 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.279 and then it's really graphic, really really graphic. The group says. Police 139 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.919 were called when the man decided to go through with the meetup. Pepperdine says 140 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.360 the man was placed on administrative leave after his arrests. Saturday, Chris Adler 141 00:10:54.519 --> 00:11:00.759 KA Fie News a mountain lion's been spotted wandering around a neighborhood in Redlands. 142 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:07.480 This resident says the lion was up a tree just outside her home and he's 143 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.120 us up there hanging out. Kind of scary, of course, and we're 144 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.879 not a small, you know, little town. We're a pretty big city, 145 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.240 so very surprising. He's been here, there, and everywhere in Redlands. 146 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.200 The mountain lion has also been spotted twice in the same neighborhood since Sunday, 147 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:26.240 all also seen near Prospect Park and in an alley outside of Lows. 148 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.360 Officials have warned residents to be extra careful, keep an eye out for the 149 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:33.240 mountain lion, and obviously stay away. An LAPD officer has accidentally fired his 150 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.519 gun while inspecting the weapon inside the Hollandbeck station east of downtown. The round 151 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.039 went into a wall Saturday. No one was hurt. The officer is assigned 152 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:48.720 to the department's Community Safety Partnership Bureau. The California Hall of Fame at the 153 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:54.360 California Museum and Sacramento is added seven new members. New additions are Carrie Fisher, 154 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.720 Maggie Gee, Etta, James Jose, Julio Saria, Vince Scully, 155 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.360 Archie Williams, and Shirley Templed Black. Governor Newsom says the inductees were all 156 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:09.919 pioneers in their fields who encapsulated the California Dream through their lives and legacies. 157 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:16.399 Ceremony will be held virtually next week. I thought we were done with virtual 158 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.320 ceremonies. If your car goes away, make sure your data goes with you. 159 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.960 A man who works for CNBC says the tesla he totaled started sending him 160 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.919 notifications from another country. Jay Yarrows says the electric suv he crashed, totaled 161 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.960 and left in a salvage art in New Jersey late last year has ended up 162 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.840 in Ukraine, where the new owner is using Yarrow's streaming music account. Tesla 163 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.399 told him how to disconnect the vehicle from his account, so the new owner 164 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.360 could no longer use Yarrows logged in apps, but other stuff, including contact 165 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:48.679 lists and driving history could still be accessed. Currently, no car manufacturers offer 166 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.159 a remote reset function to wipe out all the electronic data from your old car. 167 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.240 Michael Krozier KFI News Hawaii Governor Josh Green has applauded the people of Maui 168 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.559 who've taken survivors of the fire in Lahinah into their homes, saying eighty percent 169 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.919 of the buildings destroyed where houses ninety nine people are confirmed dead from the fire. 170 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.799 The Trump campaign is fired back following the indictment of the former president in 171 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:16.320 Fulton County, Georgia. The campaign accuses Democrat da Fannie Willis of being an, 172 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.960 in their words, rabid partisan. Fifty Cents says he told us LA 173 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.879 was finished his comments. In response to the smash and grab flash mob that 174 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:30.159 stole one hundred thousand dollars worth of merchandise from Nordstrom in Kanoga Park, he 175 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.120 says, in his words, they're going to have to lock the doors appointment 176 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.919 only shopping. Let's say good morning to ABC's Alex Stone. Well, the 177 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.200 pain continues on Maui, Alex, where the official death toll is ninety nine, 178 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.879 making it the deadliest natural disaster in Hawaii's history. That's right, Amy, 179 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.000 Good morning. Yeah, this is going to be another somber day today 180 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.320 that they're going to begin notifying the families of the dead, those who have 181 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.639 been identified, and that's not an easy task in itself based on how they 182 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.960 died. That there have been the calls for DNA to help identify some of 183 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.559 the remains or many of the remains, but those who they have been able 184 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.440 to identify, those families are going to get a phone call, a knock 185 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.919 on the door today. It's going to be Maui Police letting them know that 186 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.559 their worst fears that they haven't heard from their loved one and now a week 187 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.440 and that today is going to be that day. So there's a lot of 188 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.080 anxiety for the families who don't know where their loved ones are that they're going 189 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:31.039 to get that today. And the mayor here saying this ore deep condolence, 190 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.960 is an empathy to the families who will be gaining who will begin to receive 191 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:43.720 notifications from my department of any loved ones who have been who have been identified. 192 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.440 And they mean the number at ninety nine today. The governor believes that 193 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.360 is going to double, if not more. They've only searched about a quarter 194 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.440 of the homes in Lahinah. They've they've got twenty cadaver dogs here right now, 195 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.840 including a couple from La County Fire. That they have a lot of 196 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.759 work left to do. That three quarters have not been searched. There are 197 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.440 all kinds of estimates on the island of what the numbers may look like at 198 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.720 the end. Nobody knows, but the governor is saying that that it could 199 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.960 be double. The one thing that the police chief here very forcefully is saying 200 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:20.279 is that it is not just a number. You know, everybody pays attention 201 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.120 to what that number is. How many died here, how many died in 202 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.759 Paradise in northern California, how many died in this fire and that fire. 203 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:31.320 And his point is that these are lives, that every one of them is 204 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.360 a life. It's not a number. It's a somebody's story, somebody who 205 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:37.720 has loved ones. And he put it this way, there are ninety nine 206 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.200 so far. I understand that people want numbers. It's not a numbers game. 207 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.279 Right now, we're ninety nine souls and families, and the shelters are 208 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:54.559 beginning to empty out now because they're finally able to get people into the survivors 209 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.919 into hotels that have opened up their doors and essentially kicked out tourists in the 210 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:06.080 Canapally area where and the long term rentals like Airbnb's that have been rented essentially 211 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.919 by the state of Hawaii, and the state is saying that those survivors will 212 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.559 get at least thirty six weeks of housing, that they will probably get a 213 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.559 lot more than that, but they're going to begin with thirty six weeks and 214 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.480 begin going down the road of figuring out long term what this is going to 215 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.440 look like. And a lot of those answers they still don't have. But 216 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.679 they're they're saying they got to get them out of shelters where they're living in 217 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.039 a gymnasium, get them into a hotel room, and they're moving them right 218 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:34.279 now. Okay, And we were talking about and I know the numbers are 219 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.360 numbers, but like you said, and he said, you know, these 220 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:44.240 are these are souls, and these are families waiting to hear if their loved 221 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.600 one has died or is still alive somewhere. Originally we were saying, like 222 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:53.159 over a thousand people were still unaccounted for. Do we know if that number 223 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.879 has gone down? Are they hearing from people who were missing, or is 224 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.919 it just still still too confusing chaos that they don't know. It's a little 225 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.160 bit of all of that. It's come down a little bit. It apparently 226 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:08.640 went up to eighteen hundred two thousand people and they've got it down, they 227 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.240 believe, and there's all different lists, and that's where the confusion comes in 228 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:15.680 of how many people are on the list. They don't really know, so 229 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.400 they're not giving a number so much as kind of community and you can understand 230 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:25.839 what the island feel and community here where everybody's doing it on their own. 231 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.640 And so you've got this area where people to put up tents and they're helping 232 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.440 out victims, and they've got their list, and there's a list over here, 233 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.160 and there's one online. So they don't really know, but they think 234 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.200 that there are still just shy of about a thousand people on that list. 235 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:44.119 And while they still believe that some of those people are probably alive but just 236 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.720 haven't been in communication with family or their name hasn't been taken off the list, 237 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.559 that's a lot of people a week after normally we see it go high 238 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.720 and then it quickly comes down as people make communication with their family members. 239 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:03.079 That's still a really high number, and that is creating fear and anxiety for 240 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.720 some of the population here of how high is that number going to be. 241 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.880 The number of dead with that number that's still missing. There is a real 242 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:12.799 possibility that it could be in the hundreds. We just don't know, And 243 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.039 the governor is saying it could be two hundred or more who died in the 244 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:21.160 fire. They don't know, and we won't know until the teams finish their 245 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.240 work. And they think the work is going to speed up now that they've 246 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:27.000 got more cadaver dogs, more states, and more FEMA teams showing up to 247 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:32.319 offer that. So they may get that up to fifty percent today or maybe 248 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.680 just shy of that, or maybe even over that, depending on how much 249 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.880 work they can get done today. But they've got a lot of work left 250 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.720 to do. Well, for having searched twenty five percent now and the official 251 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:47.200 death toll only going up by three, maybe that's a good sign. Yeah, 252 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:48.640 maybe it's a good time. I don't know if we're getting a real 253 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:55.119 real time sense of because over these last couple of days, they will put 254 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.480 out an official death toll and then the governor at some point will give a 255 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:02.440 much different number. That's my higher and he's made it clear that they are 256 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.880 finding more bodies. It may be a thing where later today we get a 257 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:10.519 number from yesterday. Really once they confirm things and the number goes up. 258 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:15.039 So it's somewhat fluid in that, Yes, the official number is staying steady 259 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.359 at ninety nine. That doesn't mean that since they came out with that number 260 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:23.079 what like twelve hours ago, that it's actually stated that number. They're not 261 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.640 updating it in real time. They're just kind of giving it out in bulk 262 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.319 numbers and waiting with what's confirmed and whatnot. So we'll see, we'll see 263 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.839 what they found probably yesterday today when we get an updated number, and hopefully 264 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.279 it doesn't go up much. Okay, And now we're hearing too that the 265 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:44.759 residents are a bit frustrated because they can't get back to where their homes are, 266 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:48.799 and then law lawmakers are pushing or law enforcement is pushing back on that 267 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:55.640 basically saying be careful where you're trying to get to. Yeah, it's an 268 00:19:55.640 --> 00:20:00.519 interesting dynamic because you've got many locals who are saying, this is our community. 269 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:06.519 The law enforcement and government, both state and federal, have just shut 270 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:08.839 down the western side of Maui. Nobody and nobody out. If reporters try 271 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.599 to get in, you'll be arrested. If residents try to get in, 272 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.720 now as they were sneaking in, they'll be arrested. They arrested somebody yesterday, 273 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.319 and the police chief here try to make an example out of them last 274 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:22.720 night by saying, you know, FOYA Freedom of Information Act, request who 275 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:27.079 it was and do a story on that. There's a lot of pushback. 276 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.279 Community members are saying, this is our island. We want to know what's 277 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.279 going on in there. They want to see their homes. There was a 278 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.759 three mile line yesterday to get placards to get back in, and then they 279 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.319 just poof because of the demand. They called off that program and told everybody 280 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.000 to go home after they've been waiting in line because they were overwhelmed, and 281 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.440 people were angry about that. They want to get in. Not allowing in 282 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.319 reporters to see what's going on in that community and what Sir cheffort is going 283 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:57.200 on, not allowing residents in to see what's going on. There's growing anger 284 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.079 here. But officials will push back and get quite angry when you bring it 285 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:04.200 up, saying that nobody understands what's going on and there and everybody understands their 286 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:08.920 bodies and they're searching that area. But the local community is saying, let 287 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.240 us see what's happening in there in our community, let us see our homes, 288 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:18.000 and angry politicians and law enforcement leaders are coming back and saying we are 289 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:21.720 being as transparent as we can be and no, and that's not going over 290 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:25.000 very well here on the island. Well, it's got to be frustrating. 291 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.880 I mean, amid all of this loss and the devastation and the feelings that 292 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:33.480 they're dealing with, then the frustration of not being allowed to either to even 293 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:34.960 go back to see it's got to be really tough on them. Yeah. 294 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.480 For many, they can't get back. Yes, some have found ways to 295 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.240 go back in, and then there've been little programs here and there to allow 296 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.519 them to go in, and then they end that program because they don't like 297 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.799 how it's going. It's been very confusing for everybody, like them sitting in 298 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:51.440 the hours long line yesterday, that three mile line and then police coming by 299 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:55.240 on loudspeakers and saying it's been dissolved. We're not doing this. Everybody leave. 300 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:57.599 People were really angry. Yeah, all right, Alex Stone, thanks 301 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:03.440 so much for the latest from MAUI appreciate all the information that you're sharing with 302 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:04.319 us. You got it. Thanks Jammy, have a good day, all 303 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.960 right, you two. The DA in Fulton County, Georgia's as former President 304 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:12.480 Trump was part of a criminal conspiracy to overturn the state's twenty twenty election results. 305 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:18.240 Trump's been indicted on felony racketeering charges and more. Wildfires in Hawaii have 306 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.200 now claimed at least ninety nine lives. Governor Josh Green says more than eighty 307 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:26.640 percent of the buildings destroyed in the fire last week were homes. Former NFL 308 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:30.160 player Michael Orr, who was the inspiration for the Oscar winning movie The blind 309 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:34.039 Side, says he was never adopted by the Two Eyes that was the family 310 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:38.839 in the movie, and has filed a petition to end their conservatorship over him. 311 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:42.680 At six o five, it's handled on the news. People on Social 312 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:48.279 Security could be facing a seventeen k a year cut if things don't change. 313 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:55.559 Right now, let's say good morning to ABC's Jim Ryan. Jim used to 314 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:57.960 be fun to see those little white trails left behind by jets. But what's 315 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.359 the real story. Well, yeah, they're still kind of fun to look 316 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.599 at. These, of course, are the contrails, the condensation trails that 317 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:12.039 trail behind aircraft. Jettercraft traveling at high altitudes generally above about five miles, 318 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:18.799 they get into humid air that they stood from the exhaust and also the fog 319 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:25.160 that's created in the process of creating lift on the wings. It creates these 320 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.920 clouds. Those clouds generally dissipated in a few minutes, sometimes an hour, 321 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:33.440 but they spread out. Well, that's where scientists say there is an issue 322 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.400 because as they spread out, they turn into clouds. Essentially, those clouds 323 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.799 trap heat in the Earth's atmosphere. That heat should be escaping amy but it 324 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.519 isn't, and that's warming the Earth overall. To what effect. Well, 325 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:52.279 one research piece that came out recently said that aviation contributed about four percent to 326 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:59.799 observed human induced global warming. That is that the aviation overall, that is 327 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.839 fuel that's burned, the carbon that's emitted, and the contrails that are created 328 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:10.240 are contributing about four percent to the rise in the Earth's temperature. Okay, 329 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.160 but so here's my question, because I don't see contrails very often anymore. 330 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:17.160 Like I remember as a kid, like I said it was fun to see 331 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:22.480 those little white strikes strip stripes across the sky. It doesn't seem like we 332 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.440 see them as much anymore, or maybe I'm just not looking up. You're 333 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:27.599 probably not looking up because they're still there. They're out there, and in 334 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.920 fact, in the late evening and at ninth that's when these things are the 335 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.640 biggest problem. We don't see them at night, but they're still there. 336 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.960 It's not like a rainbow that exists only at anytime. That contrails are created 337 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:42.319 at night as well, and that's when this radiant cooling or this radiant heating, 338 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:47.599 rather it can be the most intense. That's when the when the hot 339 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.920 area is supposed to dissipate out into space. Well, if these contrail clouds 340 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.359 are created, they're blanketing the planet or a portion of the planet at least 341 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:59.440 they're holding that hot area in. But yeah, they're they're created, but 342 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.759 typically and primarily at certain levels of the atmosphere. You've ever been flying around 343 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:08.759 amy and a commercial jetliner and the pilot comes on and says, we're hitting 344 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.079 some turbulence here. We're going to try for a higher or a lower altitude 345 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.720 to get out of it. And they do. They climb or they descend. 346 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.119 Well that the same thing can be done to get out of that more 347 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:25.440 humid atmosphere to avoid contrasts. American Airlines was working with Google to see what 348 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:29.880 could be done about this. Google using mapping and using satellite imagery and all 349 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:33.559 sorts of stuff to predict where a plane might fly to avoid these things, 350 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.960 either with rerouting or a different altitude, and they were able to reduce They 351 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.720 looked at seventy different flights, and in those seventy flights they reduced the contrail 352 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:48.559 production by about fifty two percent, which is to have to burn about two 353 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:53.279 percent more fuel to get it done. But they were able to cut the 354 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:03.400 production of potentially dangerous or not dangerous but looting contrails wait by changing their altitude. 355 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.319 Yeah, by changing the altitude or maybe slightly altering the route to get 356 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.640 the plane out of an area where this humid air might be found. Oh, 357 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.279 so that it's not that's maybe why maybe the air is dryer. Maybe 358 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.519 that's why I don't see the contrails as much. Who knows. Okay, 359 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:23.119 so are planes looking do you know if they're looking for alternate propulsion? Like 360 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.799 are they Are we going to have electric planes? Yes? Really, yes, 361 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.319 we are at some point in the future. That's the goal. Right 362 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:36.599 now, there Several companies are working on this on projects to create engines that 363 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:41.319 have power aircraft without fuel, without fossil fuel. They should be handled electrically. 364 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.759 By the way, you'd still have contrails created by them. You know, 365 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:47.799 it's not just the soot. Again, it's not just the soot. 366 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.079 But if you've ever seen a plane landing or taking off in fog or cooler 367 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.720 weather, and you see these vortices spinning off the wing tips, right, 368 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:00.319 yeah, that's they product of lift. You've got higher pressure on the wing, 369 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.160 lower pressure on top. They come together out at the tip of the 370 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.799 wing and create these beautiful little vortices, little tornadoes that come off the back. 371 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.920 And that's still happening up at altitude too. So even without a lot 372 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.039 of exhaust coming out of the out of the engines, you still have those 373 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:21.440 contrails being formed by the production of left who knew, I didn't, Yeah, 374 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:22.960 I'm just I would be worried if there was a plane and it was 375 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.519 electric and it ran out of charge. You know, like midflight, we've 376 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.880 got to get a drop straight out of the sky. You've got, you 377 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.039 know, miles and miles of gliding potential before you and you can reach an 378 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:37.279 airport by then, unless you're you know, find a Hawaiian. Don't sweat 379 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.279 it. Yeah, okay, I won't worry about it. Thank you. 380 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.440 Jim Ryan, always a pleasure, seem all right. Hey, there's freebees. 381 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.599 I love freebees. Guess what it is today? Do you know, 382 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:55.799 Tyler, not a clue. No Taco Tuesday. Oh and it is no 383 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:03.200 longer trademarked that that phrase Taco Tuesday. So Taco Bell is celebrating that by 384 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.640 giving away free tacos. Hey now, hey, so they have free doritos 385 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:15.960 locos tacos today on the fifteenth, also the twenty second, and the fifth 386 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.519 of September, and I guess it would be the twenty second, the twenty 387 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.880 ninth, and the fifth in addition to today. So apparently if you go 388 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:29.200 into a Taco Bell you can get yourself a free taco. And they are 389 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:34.400 celebrating the liberation because Taco John's was the regional taco chain that had Taco Tuesday 390 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.519 trademarked for thirty four years. Remember we talked about it a couple of weeks 391 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.559 ago, and Taco John's finally said, you know, uh, we're not 392 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.680 going to fight this anymore. And Taco Bell said, hallelujah, because we 393 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.720 love Taco Tuesday. So doritos, locos tacos. I haven't had one of 394 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.680 those years. Oh they're so good, Amy it makes me hungry. I 395 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.599 love Taco Bell. I grew up in Oregon, so like that was Mexican 396 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.440 food. Dos. We didn't know what real Mexican food was. I don't 397 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.440 think I knew until I actually until I moved to Sacramento for the first time, 398 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.839 I went, this is not Taco Bell. Yeah, it was a 399 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.359 whole new world to me. Former Chapman University Law School dean John Eastman is 400 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.079 one of those listed in a grand jury indictment handed down in Fulton County, 401 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.559 Georgia that accuses former President Trump and others of racketeering in an alleged scheme to 402 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.680 overturn the twenty twenty presidential election. A heat advisor is going to be up 403 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:29.440 in the Inland Empire from noon today until eight Thursday. Temps are expected to 404 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.559 hit up one to one oh four in Riverside, Merino Valley and Corona. 405 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.400 Attempts up to one fourteen are expected in the Coachella Valley, Indio and Palm 406 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.519 Springs. We're just minutes away from Handle. On the news this morning, 407 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.920 as kids get back to class, the LA School District says one of its 408 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:48.559 top priorities this school year is getting kids to actually go to class. We'll 409 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.079 dig into that right now. Let's say good morning to ABC's J O'Brien. 410 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.240 Hey, j. The White House is trying to focus on student debt, 411 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.880 but people are increasingly curious about what the heck hunter Biden didn't, how his 412 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.440 dad may have been tied to it. Yeah, it's interesting. These both 413 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.440 really happened yesterday at different parts of the day. So on the student debt 414 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:14.160 thing, first, if you think back to the Supreme Court tossing out that 415 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:19.160 really sweeping plan from the President to forgive ten thousand dollars for some student borrowers 416 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.599 up to twenty five thousand dollars for others. That was a huge blow to 417 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:30.200 a campaign promise from President Biden, and it left the White House really scrambling 418 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.240 to try to figure out how they were still going to get forgive student debt 419 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:38.200 even if they could, and they turned to these idrs, these income driven 420 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:44.440 repayment plans, which is something that the Department of Education has in its quivers. 421 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.240 It's one tool that's existed for a while, And yesterday they started rolling 422 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.599 out emails to people who enrolled in those idrs a long time ago, saying 423 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.960 that day are going to forgive some of their student debt for other barrowers all 424 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.000 of their student debts. So eight hundred thousand people got an email yesterday. 425 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.880 According to the White House, six hundred fourteen thousand of those are going to 426 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.880 have all of their debt forgiven. These are folks that paid off their student 427 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.680 debt for twenty or twenty five years, which is the terms under the IDR. 428 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.200 So what's a more limited way to forgive student debt. It's not going 429 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.319 to be as big as the President's student loan forgiveness plan, but it's what 430 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.640 the White House is trying to do. Because they can't do what they wanted 431 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.880 to do things the Supreme Court stop them. Okay, So on this one, 432 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:34.799 they're using older student debt that dates back like twenty five years. In 433 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.119 a way, they're using people who have been who have already enrolled in this 434 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.400 plan, who've paid off for that period exactly. Those are the first people 435 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:47.759 that they can forgive. What they're also doing is tweaking the terms of the 436 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.920 IDR going forward, so when people enroll in this plan from now onwards, 437 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.519 they can also get their student debt forgiven with a little bit different provisions and 438 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.319 what the White House says are more favorable conditions to the bar wars. So 439 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.720 they're trying to look back at previous debt and canceled debt that they can under 440 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.480 the terms of this rule they're already allowed to do. And then they're trying 441 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:12.640 to tweak this rule going forward to make it easier for them to cancel student 442 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.480 debt again. It only applies to people who enrolled in this program, whereas 443 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:21.640 the Biden student loan forgiveness program that was struck down by the Supreme Courts would 444 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.240 apply to everyone who retroactively applied in this program. And they just said I 445 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.480 want to opt in after the President announced it. So again not as big, 446 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.599 but it's something the White Has says, And the one that was struck 447 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:40.720 down by the Supreme Court was that one more affecting current students. It was 448 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.480 that, and it was bigger. It was just affecting people who had not 449 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.319 just opted into this one unique plan, and also it was people who had 450 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.640 enrolled in student debt forgiveness whenever, So if you had student loans, you 451 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.599 could go to the Department of Educations website and say I want to opt in. 452 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.359 And it was a huge plan. And also it was done and we're 453 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.920 getting a little in the legal weeds, and I apologize, but also it 454 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.799 was done in a way that the Supreme Court says was unconstitutional because it was 455 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:14.200 outside the president's authority to just forgive these loans with the stroke of a pen 456 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.720 in a sense. Whereas this plan, again, while it targets fewer people 457 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.440 because it's only those who have enrolled in IVRs, this is a rule that 458 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.480 the Department of Education has had for quite some time, and so it's less 459 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.480 on it's less on a looser legal footing, although the White House would say 460 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.440 that their original plan was on a firm legal footing, but it's a little 461 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:40.599 bit more accepted practice and less likely to face some legal challenges. Okay, 462 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.559 And then the current one that he just unrolled or unrolled that he rolled out 463 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:52.279 yesterday, does that affect certain income levels more so, like lower income people 464 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.839 are more likely to get the debt forgiveness or you have to just enroll in 465 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.279 the IVRs. The various aspects of the DR. You have to qualify, 466 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.519 but if you've enrolled in this IDR, then you qualify for this if you've 467 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.400 paid off for a certain number of years. And again the White House is 468 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:14.519 eyeing potentially expanding it. It looks like that would only apply and this is 469 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.159 somewhat vague, but it looks like it would only apply going forward rather than 470 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:21.079 looking back, because you can't amend the terms of the IDR for people who 471 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:22.800 have already opted into it. You have to just do it going forward. 472 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.679 But again, they're looking at a lot of different avenues here to try to 473 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.519 take a little bit of student debt out here and a little bit of student 474 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.679 debt out there, because they can't take the big pie out that they wanted 475 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:37.159 to because for the next campaign they want to say, hey, look we 476 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.840 did this. We promised we would do this, and we did. Oh 477 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.719 absolutely, I mean this was a campaign promise. They also don't want to 478 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.880 get hit with it, something that progressives repeatedly said after the Supreme Court struck 479 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.039 down the President's first students at forgiveness plan, which is what's your plan now? 480 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.039 I mean I was talking to progressive members of Congress months before the Supreme 481 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.639 Court struck down the plan. When the Supreme Court, which is hearing arguments 482 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.599 on this, and they were measuring the White House saying what is your backup 483 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:06.400 plan? It looks like the Supreme Court might strike this down. Where are 484 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.320 you going from here? Because this was such a central promise. So the 485 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.679 White House is very much doing this because they say publicly they think it's the 486 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.159 right thing to do, but don't mistake the fact that they are under significant 487 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.920 pressure from within their own ranks to do something about student deaths. Okay, 488 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:27.599 So as that is rolling out, there's also questions about Hunter and President Biden's 489 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.559 possible involvement in business dealings. Now Biden initially has said repeatedly he didn't know 490 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:37.239 anything about his son's business. That attack has shifted. It's now he's not 491 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.880 in business with his son. And then that's the line that the White House 492 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.039 delivered yesterday. So the context of all of this leading up to yesterday was, 493 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.280 you know, the appointment of that special counsel, and David Weiss gets 494 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.679 elevated from the US Attorney in Delaware to special counsel and he continuing now his 495 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:58.519 years long investigation into Hunter Biden under this new title of Special counsel. But 496 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.280 the interesting thing about yes today and why I came back to it, was 497 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.199 we heard from the first time from the White House officially about that appointment. 498 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.239 We hadn't heard from the Press Secretary or the President about that appointment until yesterday. 499 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.599 And the Press Secretary says that line that you just quoted, which is 500 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.000 when she gets pressed by reporters on the appointment of this special council, what's 501 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.840 the President's reaction, etc. Etc. She says, quote, the President 502 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.880 was not in business with his son. And then she does something that sometimes 503 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.760 the Press Secretary doesn't always do to The White House sometimes does this, but 504 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.360 they don't do it all the time, which is go on the attack. 505 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.039 Oftentimes when it comes to Hunter Biden, the White House likes to deflect the 506 00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:37.519 question to the Department of Justice and say, oh, you have to ask 507 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.280 the Department of Justice that, or oh, you'd have to ask Hunter Biden's 508 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.960 attorneys that. Yesterday, they made that statement that you and I were just 509 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.880 talking about, and then they went on the attack against House Republicans, and 510 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.920 Karen John Pierre said, they keep turning out documents and witnesses showing that the 511 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.599 President wasn't involved, never discussed these business feelings and did nothing wrong. There's 512 00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.920 been zero evidence showing otherwise. So she's said, the House Republicans have not 513 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.039 turned up any evidence. In the meantime, we know that Special Counsel David 514 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.320 Wife is now still conducting his investigation, and so the question is why does 515 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.960 he decide to become special counsel? What else does he need to look into? 516 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.320 And when Koreeen Jumpierre says the House Republicans uncovered any evidence, is there 517 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.360 evidence that David Wiss is now chasing in his new title? Well, but 518 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:28.559 the House Republicans have been coming up with bank records and showing that the Biden 519 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:34.159 family has received millions of dollars in payments. Is that not some sort of 520 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:39.679 evidence. Well, it's interesting because the linkage there that James Comer keeps promising 521 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.719 is a direct linkage between Hunter Biden going to China, let's say, or 522 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.159 Barisma, making money via that business practice, and then that money benefiting the 523 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.320 president. And even in those bank records, there's not a direct link. 524 00:37:54.320 --> 00:38:00.000 Those are Hunter Biden's bank records, but it's not President Biden's bank records. 525 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.760 So what the House Republicans have consistently said is these guys were in business together, 526 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.519 but they haven't yet presented firm evidence that shows the linkage that and the 527 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.000 reason why they heard from this guy, Devin Archer, whose name he might 528 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.880 have heard of a while back, is that Devin Archer, they said was 529 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:21.039 the link testimony exactly, and that was a business associate of Hunter Bidens, 530 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.039 and they said Archer was going to provide the link that shows that President Biden 531 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.199 was read in on these business deals. That was what House Republicans Alynch and 532 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.360 Devin Archer said, that Hunter Biden was selling the Biden brand, that obviously 533 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.880 he wouldn't have gotten these positions without his father, and that his father was 534 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.519 on the phone with business associates, but there was a question of whether or 535 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:43.280 not those calls were about pleasantries or actually about business. Nobody really could really 536 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.039 nail that down. And so that's what the White House is saying, where's 537 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.280 the evidence? And House Republicans say, look, we're still conducting this investigation. 538 00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.360 We found a lot of evidence, James Cormo would say, and he's 539 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.039 not given up anytime soon. Meantime, the Special Council is investigating too. 540 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.719 Okay, well, we'll see if where there's smoke, there's fire. Jay 541 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.119 O'Brien, thanks for taking some time and explaining things today. I think I 542 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.960 might have learned a little something. Have a great rest of your day. 543 00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.360 We lead local live from the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. I'm Amy King. 544 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.119 This has been your wake up Call, and if you've missed any of 545 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:20.400 wake Up Call, you can listen anytime on the iHeartRadio app. You've been 546 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.960 listening to wake Up Call with me, Amy King. You can always hear 547 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:28.360 wake Up Call five to six am Monday through Friday on KFI Am six forty 548 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.880 and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.