WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.559 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:18.960 Now? Here's Nick Coffee? All right, let's get it started. Ladies 3 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:23.480 and gentlemen, welcome into a Thursday edition Coffee and Company, fuel by Thornton's 4 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:28.960 here on Sports Talk seven ninety A warm Thursday eighty seven is not like crazy 5 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.560 when it comes to heat. But we've been really, really spoiled in the 6 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:38.520 last i don't know week or so seemingly with nice cool temperatures for early June. 7 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.679 But the heat is going to be here soon once again, and I'm 8 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.719 not happy about it. But again, it is a beautiful day. I'll 9 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:47.759 take that. And we've got a busy three hours with you guys coming up 10 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.759 here in thirty minutes. At three thirty, we are going to welcome in 11 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.359 Pat Kelse, Louisville basketball coach. He'll be making his Coffee and Company debut. 12 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.399 I'm sure a big honor for him. But in all seriousness, I'm 13 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.799 looking forward to to chatting with him. And you know, I'm gonna try 14 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.519 to make this conversation interview whatever you want to call it. I mean, 15 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:08.640 technically it's both right, it's an interview, but we will have a conversation 16 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:12.400 throughout the time that I get with him, but I'm gonna get to some 17 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:18.840 basketball stuff obviously, get his impressions on the personnel that he's brought in. 18 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:23.040 I mean, the guy built a brand new roster thirteen scholarship players added since 19 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.439 he got the job, so I'm sure he's still learning a lot about these 20 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.560 guys, but just some early impressions, right, because if you think about 21 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.599 the process of recruiting players in the portal, and we'll get his thoughts on 22 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.519 this, it's such a fast moving thing for a lot of these guys, 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.680 right, they're gonna get hit up by countless schools, even if they're not 24 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.920 guys who at that point in their career have put together like a really good 25 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.519 stat line. But I'm just curious, like when you get to see these 26 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:55.719 in a previous world, when you were recruiting, it was all high school 27 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:57.200 kids, right, Like, you weren't out looking in the portal. You 28 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:01.560 had to go recruit high school kids when you were building your roster. The 29 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:06.599 new additions every year, ninety nine percent of the time were guys that you 30 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.960 watched in high school, so you probably watched them play many times in aau. 31 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.680 In fact, you probably watched them grow. Right, If you're a 32 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.280 high level recruits, you're getting recruited by the time you're probably a sophomore in 33 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.240 high school, and then by the time you're a senior. That's a big 34 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.080 gap. I know I certainly looked a lot different whenever I was fifteen and 35 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:29.680 when I was seventeen. So you have years of seeing these guys kind of 36 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.319 develop and you know a lot about them, especially if it's somebody you prioritize 37 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:36.879 as a recruit. Well, in the portal, you can go watch film, 38 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:42.080 right, and you can ask around about coaches that ask around, maybe 39 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.960 coaches that you know have some familiarity with this player that you're recruiting. But 40 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.719 I'm sure this day, especially this year, in this team, because the 41 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.199 portal gets bigger every year, and again Louisville is in such a unique situation 42 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.159 where they had to build a brand new roster. I'm sure these guys since 43 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:01.039 arriving and going through whatever off seasontice and workouts they're allowed to do. Like, 44 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:05.319 I bet some of these guys have some tools in the bag that maybe, 45 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.599 like Pat Kelsey wasn't even aware of. So again we'll get his thoughts 46 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:12.159 on a lot of things, but also we'll get to know him a little 47 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.719 bit better. I hope he is okay with me asking questions that have nothing 48 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.719 to do with basketball. I mean, I'm not going to make it entirely 49 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.199 about that, but you know, I want him to be comfortable. I 50 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.840 want fans to you know, get more excited, which is why he's doing 51 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:30.280 all these interviews right to you know, engage with fans and let fans hear 52 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:31.599 what he has to say about the program. These are things that we, 53 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:36.719 I think have always known were really important. Nobody would tell you. It 54 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.000 doesn't matter like your cod you know, regardless if you're winning or losing, 55 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:43.280 Silence is never the answer for a program like Louisville. Now, if you're 56 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.400 winning at a high level, you can get away with it. But when 57 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.280 you have a fan base that is this passionate, that cares this much, 58 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.240 and to be frank, we're crazy. We are crazy people when it comes 59 00:03:53.280 --> 00:04:00.319 to Louisville basketball. I hope that Pat Kelsey sees that as a re source. 60 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.199 Right, he sees this as as a pro to the Louisville job. 61 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.479 Right, these people are crazy, which means they're going to be there. 62 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:11.919 They're going to be packing the Um Center. But you know, engaging with 63 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.280 fans is really important. And I mean we learned the last couple of years 64 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:19.680 that you know, losing the way that the previous regime lost and really no 65 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:25.560 fan engagement, not living here, never purchasing a home here. I mean, 66 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.079 that's not the way to go about it. And so far Pet Kelsey's 67 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.720 done the exact opposite, and clearly, as you can tell, it's gotten 68 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.199 fans super excited. So again, coming up in about twenty five minutes now, 69 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.920 we're going to talk to Coach Kelsey and we'll take you up till six 70 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:39.800 o'clock. That's what we do here. We appreciate you hanging out with us. 71 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:43.240 Whatever time you can give us, it is certainly appreciated. Just know 72 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:44.920 that if you are out and about, you can take us with you. 73 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.839 Listen live on the Out Radio. Have listen live at seven to ninety Louisville 74 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.120 dot com. And if you want to be a part of the show, 75 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:54.399 we're not going to open up the phone lines probably until little later on in 76 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.399 the show, but feel free to text in anytime. Questions, complaints, 77 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.279 compliments, insults, whatever you have, send them our way. It's the 78 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.759 l and n Federal Credit Union text line five h two six five three zero 79 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:09.040 seven ninety and uh, We're gonna have some fun today and I'm looking forward 80 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.279 to it. We've got Austin back in the saddle after a day off yesterday. 81 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.800 It's up. What's were you? Were you off yesterday or did your 82 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.920 other priorities here at iHeart take you away from me? Yeah, other priorities 83 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:23.120 separated us. We had earth Wind and Fire and Lionel Ritchie at the Young 84 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.519 Center last night. That explains it, because I saw downtown was kind of 85 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.399 popping. Yeah, I mean it was. It was lively downtown. Yes, 86 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:30.759 to leave the crowd a lot. I mean, I guess the running 87 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.319 joke would be, of course, Linel Richie is a little bit older crowd, 88 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.040 right, Yeah, you know, everyone still knows a lot of at 89 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:41.120 least you know the hello, the uh, especially earth Wind and Fire, 90 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.000 earth Wind and Fire and absolute vibe. Yeah. Miss Joy went and she 91 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.079 said earth Wind and Fire blew her out of the water. So I love 92 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.800 to hear that. Miss Joy needs more night out, more nights out. 93 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.040 Yes, she does taking in concerts, just you know, letting her hair 94 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.079 down, if you know what I'm saying. So that's what she did. 95 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.160 Yeah, was a good crowd because again it looked like, yeah there's been 96 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:00.839 there have been a fire. I leave here like six thirty or sometimes like 97 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.959 six fifteen, and I'm heading out of downtown. There are events at the 98 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:09.199 Yum Center every now and then that I wouldn't know that there's an event because 99 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:11.800 there's not like a whole like you know, for example, Louisville basketball the 100 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.639 last couple of years. I don't say that to joke, I'm being serious, 101 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:15.920 but yesterday, you know, I could tell, hey, something's going 102 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:21.240 on downtown because there's a lot of traffic and it's always good for downtown whenever 103 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:25.319 you can have you know, of course, concerts bring people, you know, 104 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:29.600 to give business to all the local businesses down here, and of course 105 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.600 I'm sure people travel in to see I mean, we're talking little Richie earth 106 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:34.560 Win in five. Yeah, it's good stuff as you talk about soul music. 107 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.839 And right right across the way PBR they had a whiskey jam. They're 108 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.120 doing that every day every month, every second Tuesday of the month, and 109 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:46.800 it's just like some young and upcoming country music stars. Morgan Wallin's been there 110 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.519 before, Luke Combs has been there before, really a block. They all 111 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:55.360 got their start at the Whiskey Jam that's done around all these Live Nation bars 112 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.160 and stuff like that around the country. So that's where they started. So 113 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.720 you might might be able to see some people. Yeah, that would be 114 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.800 your opportunity to see someone before they potentially become like a megastar. So good 115 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:10.079 stuff, all right, So where I wanted to start before we take our 116 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.120 first break here coming up before too long, and then wait for Pat Kelsey 117 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.000 to give us a call, which I always get. I always get a 118 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.720 little paranoid right before someone comes on the show, like, you know, 119 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:26.680 the Louisville basketball coach for the first time, because technical difficulties really don't exist 120 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:30.240 as much as they used to. But I have had a run of bad 121 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:38.199 luck with some coaches on this show, and it frustrates me. But I 122 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:42.120 think each and every time it was no one's fault. It's just terrible timing, 123 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.519 terrible luck. So I don't anticipate that's gonna happen. I'm gonna believe 124 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.000 in the power of positivity. He knows the hotline number to call, he 125 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.680 will call it and will be good to go. But I've had mac on 126 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:57.360 a couple of times and we had issues. I remember I had sadderfield on 127 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.160 the show during the pandemic to where I was doing it from home. You 128 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:01.920 never, we never knew we were going to get. When it comes to 129 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:09.839 connectivity at home, the remote broadcast you know technology that we use, it's 130 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:16.040 usually pretty pretty solid. However, when every single live show we had was 131 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.279 all using our access units and connecting remotely, I mean, I don't know 132 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.879 enough about the technology as far as how this all works, but that can't 133 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.720 like whenever we would have random issues, I'm just going to assume that everybody 134 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.639 doing it at the exact same time was a factor in that. So again, 135 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.279 I'm going to believe in the power positivity. But I always get and 136 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:37.399 there's nothing worse than really, you know, because I've known for about a 137 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.600 week and a half or so that we were going to have Coach on, 138 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.639 and I knew earlier this week what time it was, and I've been mentioning 139 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.600 it on the show, but I haven't promoted it much on social media until 140 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.679 the last twenty four hours or so, and that's probably, you know, 141 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.399 something I should have promoted a little bit earlier. But I always get worried 142 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.639 that here I am telling everybody, hey, you better tune in. We're 143 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.039 gonna have coach Kelsey on. I'm sure you're going to want to hear it, 144 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.960 and then like it not happened. Like sometimes it would be completely out 145 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:05.840 of my control. It would be no one's fault. But like, that's 146 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:07.799 just something I try to avoid. But again, we're believing in the power 147 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.399 of positivity, good vibes and will make this happen. Coming up here in 148 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.320 about twenty minutes or so. All right, So, I don't know if 149 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.639 this interests people the way it interests me as somebody that is a college basketball 150 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.759 super fan college football superfan. Right, I love all sports for the most 151 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.480 part. I love everything that comes with the sports culture. But the sports 152 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.080 that I really know the most about, meaning not that I know more than 153 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.200 anybody else, but the sports that I follow, right, that I have 154 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.759 interest in, that I really care about, that I would be following and 155 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:46.759 consuming just this if I didn't do this for a job, I'd still be 156 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:52.720 all in on college basketball and college football. So with so much change in 157 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.720 recent years with NIL and the portal, and now even more change on the 158 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.559 way with this recent settlement, that's going to allow and essentially require I mean, 159 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.799 it's not a requirement, but you're going to have to pay money to 160 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.879 these student athletes as a university or you won't get good players. And at 161 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.480 that point, is it even I mean, it's almost like you're admitting to 162 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:20.639 yourself you're not really trying to compete if you can't find the money to pay, 163 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:22.279 because that's I mean, it's kind of already the way it is now 164 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.679 with nil, but I think it's actually going to be even a bigger headache. 165 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.919 But anyways, there's already been a lot of changes in recent years, 166 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.759 and now there's a big change coming where again the universities are going to be 167 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.320 allowed and essentially be required to pay athletes themselves if they want to win. 168 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.360 So I'm curious and just interested. I don't know, I feel like this 169 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.799 is kind of a nerdy numbers thing that people wouldn't really find entertaining. For 170 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:52.240 sure, maybe they would find it to be informative, but getting creative and 171 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:58.759 trying to find new revenue streams in order to keep your bank accounts healthy enough 172 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.279 to cover all the costs that come with college athletics. It's already expensive enough 173 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.720 to run these programs, and obviously the high level programs in the Power for 174 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:15.039 Power five leagues, they generate enough revenue with their football and some with basketball 175 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.679 to where they can cover all the expenses. Well, now you got roughly 176 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.519 twenty two or twenty million, you know, twenty million or twenty two million 177 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.840 dollars. That again, like you're going to have to come up with that 178 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.399 somehow, and for some it'll be easier than others. So again I find 179 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:35.559 it interesting to see what schools and conferences are going to be doing to try 180 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.039 to make it to where you can you can afford to, you know, 181 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:45.600 to to compete hit the high level of college athletics. So I've said this 182 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:50.080 for a while. Now, Brett your mac he's the Big twelve commissioner. 183 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.720 You used to work for Rock Nation, and somehow he parlayed that into being 184 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:54.919 the commissioner of the Big twelve. And the Big twelve, if you remember, 185 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.000 they looked like they were going to be left for dead. I really 186 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.879 thought of the Power five. If there's gonna be one league that's gonna get 187 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.360 gonna just disappear, I thought it'd be the Big Twelve. Turns out it 188 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:07.440 was the Pac twelve. And the Big twelve. Let's be real, they're 189 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:13.320 not elite when it comes to brands in football. Losing Oklahoma and Texas, 190 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.279 that's a big, big hit for them, and there was really no possible 191 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:22.080 way for them to go replace the value that those two programs brought them when 192 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.919 it comes to viewership, brand recognition, all that kind of stuff. But 193 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:26.759 I think they did as best as they as best as they could, and 194 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.639 they wisely accepted the ESPN deal that the PAC twelve turned down, which eventually 195 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.120 led to the PAC twelve dying. But I feel like your Mac maybe because 196 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.519 he does I'm sorry, your Mark. Maybe it's because he is it your 197 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.559 Mark or Mac. I think it's your Mac. Either way, I should 198 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:45.879 get his name right since I'm gassing him up and giving him a lot of 199 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.639 credit here. But yes, his name is your Mark, not your Mac. 200 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:54.639 Apologies unless there's a typo here from the one and the only Brett McMurphy, 201 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.320 who I doubt would have a typo because he's he's too good. He 202 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.519 doesn't have typos. So this guy, maybe it's his background that is not, 203 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.000 you know, one of an administrator in college athletics. I mean, 204 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.480 I don't know what the background is for every commissioner, but this guy came 205 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.440 from Rock Nation to now being the commissioner of the Big Twelve. So I 206 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.200 feel like he thinks outside the box, right, and he's doing that and 207 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.399 the ACC commissioner. Maybe there's maybe there's some things happening right now that we 208 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.919 don't know about, some things in the works, But I don't I don't 209 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.360 give Jim Phillips the benefit of the doubt that he's out there, you know, 210 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:31.960 being creative, trying to create solutions for this financial gap that you have 211 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.039 compared to everybody else. And oh, by the way, you got more 212 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.720 money these schools are going to have to pay. And your commissioner, you 213 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.440 would think he'd be out there trying to again be creative, find solutions, 214 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.399 and Phillips, I just have no confidence that he's doing that. So here's 215 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.960 the latest with the Big Twelve. They are in discussions with All State, 216 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:58.120 of course, the insurance giant, for a thirty to fifty million dollar annual 217 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.279 deal with with All State for the naming rights of the Big Twelve. Which 218 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.120 this is kind of weird, but hey, I applaud them for trying to 219 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:11.000 find ways to bring more revenue to their league to again close the gap between 220 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.960 the SEC and the Big ten, because those two leagues clearly are going to 221 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.840 be making way more money when it comes to the revenue from their TV deal, 222 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.600 and that gap is only going to get bigger as it stands right now. 223 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.759 Well, if the Big twelve is shilling out fifty million among all their 224 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.720 league members annually, that's going to close that gap substantially. It's going to 225 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.159 make it pretty competitive. So that's a huge deal. And if it means 226 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:39.960 you have to become the All State twelve Conference or Big All State Conference, 227 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.240 do it? Who cares about the name. I mean, we'll probably still 228 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.080 call it the Big twelve. But I think this is a creative way to 229 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.919 yes, sell out, But you have to sell out, you do unless 230 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.600 you know you have other ways to where you can just magically come up with 231 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:01.360 more money. So I think this is a good idea. Conference USA apparently 232 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.919 is doing the same thing, which doesn't mean that theirs is probably more for 233 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.639 just survival because you know COLL and USA. I mean, where is that 234 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.919 league even right now when it comes to the the you know, the power 235 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.720 rankings as far as conference value, I mean, surely they're behind the Americans. 236 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.600 Still, they're probably behind the Mountain West. I mean, so anyways, 237 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.720 Conference USA, the number has not been reported as far as what they're 238 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.639 they're potentially going to sell their naming rights for. But Global Uh let's see 239 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:39.679 here. Yeah, the I'm trying to find the Global Life is the company 240 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.000 that Global Life Conference USA could potentially be the name of Conference USA. And 241 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.440 again, if that, if all you have to do is kind of, 242 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.279 you know, brand yourself with their logo and really attach yourself to that brand. 243 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.519 And they're going to give you a bunch of money to share within your 244 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.240 conference to other league members. Do it? Why would you not? I 245 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.440 think the thought of you know, selling out it could be like a prideful 246 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:03.679 thing for people that they just you know, they hate what it's come to. 247 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.799 But look, you got to do these kind of things or it won't 248 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.559 exist. I don't mean that the sport won't exist, but these are the 249 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:12.240 kind of things that you have to do if you're not in the SEC and 250 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.960 you're not in the big ten, these are the things you have to do 251 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.759 in order to survive. I don't think you would ever, you know, 252 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.799 completely just go away and disappear. And like these schools in these leagues wouldn't 253 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.279 have football and basketball programs. I don't think that is something we need to 254 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:32.320 be worried about. But if you're fearful of it being really two worlds of 255 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:37.159 college athletics, the big ten in the SEC on their own planet being the 256 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:38.960 big dogs, and then everybody else, like I fear that, I mean, 257 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.679 I'd still pull for Louisville regardless of where they are, and I'd follow 258 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.799 them and be a fan because there's nothing I can do about it. But 259 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:48.679 this is the kind of thing you can do to where you can kind of 260 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.799 keep up with the Joneses. And you know, from a financial standpoint, 261 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:57.440 you may be getting money differently from different revenue streams, but you're maybe still 262 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.879 able to afford to live in the neighborhood, if that makes sense right. 263 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:02.639 You may not be living in the best street, you may not have the 264 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.640 best house. You're in ground pool, probably you may not have one, 265 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:11.480 but if you're still in the neighborhood, that's best case scenario for you. 266 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.920 So with Jim Phillips, I mean I always hear in brag about and I'm 267 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.480 not exaggerating. I think he brags about being third in revenue when it comes 268 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:25.079 to the amount of money that is shared from the ACC to league members clearly 269 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.240 behind the other two. I mean, he brings it up as if it's 270 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.279 not a bad place to be. Well, you won't be there for long 271 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.279 at number three if you don't find some type of deal like this, because 272 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:41.160 I'm telling you, if the Big twelve starts sharing fifty million annually with all 273 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:44.240 their league members to go on top of their ESPN deal that they have, 274 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.839 they're going to be making a lot more money than you. And unfortunately, 275 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.039 or maybe you should say fortunately, the ACC stuck together because of this grant 276 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.640 of rights deal. So nobody's bailing because they can't. They're trying, but 277 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:56.680 I don't think they're going to be able to get out of it. So 278 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:02.119 it's just a bad look that. The one thing that you could say right 279 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:08.599 now positively about the ACC as far as longevity in the future is this, 280 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:14.200 we're all stuck together. At least we're together, right, We're all I 281 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:18.799 mean, because I don't know of any solutions as far as you know, 282 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:23.000 how they can add more revenue. There's an incentive based thing in place which 283 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.920 will help. Right if you're doing really well as a league member, in 284 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.680 the ACC, you're gonna get a bigger piece of the pie. But they're 285 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.359 locked in till twenty thirty six. Guys, that's twelve years away. And 286 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:40.039 from now until twenty thirty six, every other power for league is going to 287 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:44.400 be re upping their deal, probably twice in that timeframe in making more money, 288 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.720 where every ACC school is locked into the same amount of money when it 289 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.400 comes to the to the grant of rights deal. So you've got to get 290 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:53.000 creative. You got to find revenue streams, and no surprise, it's the 291 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:57.839 Big twelve that is trying to find ways to, you know, bring more 292 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:02.240 money in where I'm sure the ACC is not just sitting on their ass, 293 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.319 but I also wouldn't be surprised if they are. And Jim Phillips inherited this 294 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.119 bad deal. He didn't create it. It was Swafford. And I don't 295 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.799 even think Phillips walked into the ACC at like a great time. There's some 296 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.599 things that are clearly issues that I can't blame him for, but man, 297 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.759 I don't get a big sense of leadership from him. I'm sure he's a 298 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:27.920 nice man. It's not a personal thing, but I just don't really feel 299 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:34.240 like he's the guy that can navigate this league in a really really important time. 300 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.319 But then again, to be fair to him, what can he do 301 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.599 they have? I mean, I guess what he can do is again, 302 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:44.480 get creative, try to find a naming sponsor for your league. Think of 303 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:47.839 other things you can do to bring revenue that can be shared within the conference. 304 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:49.119 But as far as the grant of rights deal, I mean, that's 305 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.240 not his fault at all, and there's really nothing he can do about it. 306 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.799 All Right, some other things we'll get into the Big East. They're 307 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.559 also apparently about to be bringing in more revenue, which is good for them, 308 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.319 but man, it seems like it's all going to be chalked up as 309 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:08.519 a as a gift from Yukon and and and Danny Hurley. So tn T 310 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:15.359 and NBC Sports are looking into securing some of these games. So the Big 311 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.000 East men's and women's basketball, they already have Fox Sports, but if they're 312 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.079 getting NBC and TNT in there as well, that's just more revenue. I 313 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:26.519 still think it's not ideal to not have any of your games ever on the 314 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:32.799 Four Letter Network. But if you're not just on f S one and they 315 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:36.880 can find you on tn T or even NBC Sports. I mean that could 316 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.920 help you financially, and it could make it to where more people see your 317 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.319 game. I mean tn T only has sports during the tournament and of course 318 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:48.119 the NBA, but they won't have as many NBA games or any NBA games 319 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:49.920 next year. So they're gonna have the open you know, they're gonna have 320 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:52.880 the They're gonna need programming, and that could be Big East Basketball. And 321 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.720 this is something that that that I think most people realize maybe just don't think 322 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:03.000 about it when it comes to live TV. Just a station that people frequently 323 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.400 more are frequently watching more than your average station is value. Right. So 324 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.400 like if you go to a sports bar, let's say Austin. We walked 325 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.119 into a sports bar right now in Lowell somewhere and they got twenty TVs on 326 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:18.920 I bet fifteen of them are on one of the ESPN stations, right, 327 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.920 So that matters like that, that's I mean, there's ratings for that. 328 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.000 Like, that's viewership, even if they're not watching intently, it's on. 329 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:29.799 There's not a whole lot of TVs on FS one, right, So this 330 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.480 maybe wouldn't fit with the sports bar, but I would be willing to bet 331 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:37.759 that there are more people that just happen to find their television on TNT then 332 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.440 they do FS one. Sure, so that alone can help you. It's 333 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.799 just more visibility. And hey, if this sounds this sounds a little silly, 334 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.960 but I think it could be. I mean, it could be a 335 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:53.880 real factor. If the NBA completely has no affiliation with Turner and T and 336 00:21:53.960 --> 00:22:00.319 T, which it doesn't sound like they're going to. Charles Barkley has an 337 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.880 out to where he can leave Turner and I guess void his contract if they 338 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:07.359 no longer have a relationship with the NBA. But I don't know about the 339 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.160 other guys. And if you take that great and talented TNT crew that covers 340 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:14.160 the NBA and they still want to have a job, and they then shift 341 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:18.039 to covering big eiast basketball, that is somewhat of an incentive for people to 342 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.279 tune in because the TNT crew they're phenomenal. It's embarrassing how much better the 343 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:23.920 TNT crew is. And I don't just mean inside the NBA. I mean 344 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:30.160 everybody from top to bottom, the announcers, broadcasters, sideline reporters, everybody. 345 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:36.079 They're great, and it's embarrassing how much better they are than ESPN when 346 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:37.880 it comes to that. So we're loaded the rest of the way. But 347 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.799 again let's go ahead and get a break out of the way and welcome in 348 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.559 coach Pat Kelsey, who said to join us coming up here at three thirty, 349 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.440 So keep a lock right here. It is Coffee and Company. We 350 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:53.839 are fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and 351 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.759 Company. You're rolling along here on a Thursday afternoon. Thank you so much 352 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.119 for hanging out with us here on Sports Talk seven nine. And we now 353 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.680 bring in a special guest to making his first appearance here on Coffee and Company, 354 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.279 Louisville basketball coach Pat Kelsey. Coach, how we doing this afternoon? 355 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:11.880 Hey? Nick? How you doing? Thanks so much for having me on. 356 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.680 Well, how about that intro music? What was that? That little 357 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.559 gin blossoms? That's Max Bucks twenty oh Matchbox twenty Yeah. I got to 358 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:22.799 get some credit to our producer Austin. He picked that one. I let 359 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.759 him pick the songs and he usually does a pretty good job. So again, 360 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:27.880 thanks for making some time for us. I know you're extremely busy. 361 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:32.359 You've been very busy since since you arrived, So I guess I'll start with 362 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:33.960 this. Have you had much time to kind of, you know, reflect 363 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:37.559 and settle in and you know, look back on this big change that you 364 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.200 that you've made here taken the job here at Louisville. I know it's been 365 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.440 very hectic since you got here, but just I guess early impressions on your 366 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:48.720 new home here in Louisville. Yeah, there hasn't been a lot of lulls, 367 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.160 if you will here over the last whatever it is a couple months, 368 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:56.680 two and a half months, but you know, you know, Luke Hancock 369 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.680 was that practice. I don't know, we can half ago or so, 370 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.880 and he asked me, he said, give me something, give me, 371 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:07.000 give me one thing. What's been the best thing? And I told him, 372 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.880 you know, I said this on an interview on television the other day, 373 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:14.039 and I just said, it's that moment probably once a day when all 374 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:15.319 of a sudden it hits me, I'm the head coach at the University of 375 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:21.680 LOUISLL. That's pretty cool. That is pretty dang cool. And you know 376 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.039 it's the city has been awesome to me and my family who's not here full 377 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:27.640 time yet, but they'll be coming here. Really really soon. Finally found 378 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:32.119 a house and h you know, the moves starting to be more of a 379 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.279 reality. Get them all up here and that that has been the most difficult 380 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.000 part is not having them here with me. But they'll be here soon. 381 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:42.920 Love the Derby. The Derby was awesome. I'm becoming a bourbon connoisseur a 382 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.440 little bit, drinking a lot. But people, people just keep giving me 383 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.799 some gifts. So I got this trophy case of big time bourbons, which 384 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.480 I don't know if it'll ever get drink but but but no, it's been 385 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:59.559 awesome. So you've been when you are here in town and you're not out 386 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.079 recruiting, you know, you've been making the rounds and very visible and that 387 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.519 is certainly appreciated by a lot of the fans, that's for sure. But 388 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:10.640 what are your impressions of us as a fan base, Because we're crazy, 389 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.960 and I get the sense that you're willing to embrace the crazy in us and 390 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.519 maybe look at it as a strength as far as what makes Louisville basketball a 391 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.200 special program. But you know, what do you make of the fans. 392 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.720 I know you've been greeted with open arms and fans are super excited but I 393 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.599 feel like you kind of already know that we're kind of nuts when it comes 394 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:33.079 to basketball around here. Yeah, I mean it's this state is one of 395 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.640 the greatest basketball states. It's not the greatest basketball state in the entire country. 396 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.759 In basketball really really matters here. You know, those kids are born 397 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.839 with the basketball in their crib. And you know, in the city of 398 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:53.000 Louisville, is is unbelievably head over heels passionate about about the Cardinals. You 399 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.880 know, I said, somebody's probably said this before, but I thought it 400 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.440 was pretty cool. There's so many college towns right around the country, and 401 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:06.559 you can find a outside of major city, there's even Power five programs that 402 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:12.240 that kind of university and a football program and basketball program truly make up that 403 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:17.519 town. And you know, I saw this up at the Football Center. 404 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.160 I think maybe it's a banner on the football stadium and it says, you 405 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.359 know, Louisville is America's college city, right. I mean, there's over 406 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.599 a million people, I think in metropolitan Louisville, and as we know, 407 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:36.039 there's no major professional sports team here. And you know, University of Louisville 408 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:41.519 sports athletics, football, basketball, volleyball, women's basketball. I'm actually go 409 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.160 on and on, really really baseball really matter here, and you know, 410 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.759 I know it and I embraced it. You want to be somewhere where it 411 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.799 matters. You want to be somewhere where there's not apathy. You want to 412 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.960 be somewhere where people are passionate, not told in many people like I know, 413 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.440 there's over a million assistant coaches in town, and everybody's knowledgeable and they 414 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:07.039 know basketball, and they have their opinions. You know, I've made the 415 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.480 analogy of my fandom, if you will, of the sinsane Bengals and Reds 416 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.680 and I am completely one hundred percent irrational Bengals in red Field. So you 417 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.359 can relate to a lot of answers. I have a lot of answers that 418 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:23.799 that I thought maybe, you know, David Bell and Zack Taylor could could 419 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.720 could use. I don't think they really give a flying crap about what I 420 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:32.799 think and what my opinions are. But I'm not a big social media guy. 421 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.119 I am a I am a guy that you know that utilizes social media 422 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.680 to promote our program, promote Louisville Athletics, this city, all that. 423 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.319 But I'm not a guy that's going to do a lot of scroll. And 424 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.880 I do pretty good job of putting blinders on and worrying about what I can 425 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.640 control about what's right in front of me. But gosh darn, you gotta 426 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:56.400 love and embrace the fact that basketball matters here this much. Lowelloman's basketball coach 427 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.000 Pat Kelsey is our guest here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You put together, 428 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.519 they're a brand new team from scratch. Thirteen players have been added to 429 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.480 this roster since you arrived, and it really wasn't that long ago. Talk 430 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.640 to me a little bit about the process of pursuing players in the portal. 431 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:12.839 I mean, when you became a head coach at that time, it was 432 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.640 still mostly roster building from recruiting high school players. And obviously you guys still 433 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:19.880 do that, But when do you know that you can, you know that 434 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.359 you want to pull the trigger and offer a young man in the portal and 435 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.119 say, hey, we want you to come be a part of what we're 436 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:30.160 doing here. Some guys make decisions without visiting schools. Obviously there's an nil 437 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.319 component, But how much different is that process of kind of going all in 438 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.400 on a player in the portal, you know, compared to doing it at 439 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.000 the high school level. Well, I just think you have to have good 440 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.640 balance on your roster. You know, this was a unique year because obviously 441 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:51.359 we were, you know, building a roster from absolute ground zero with you 442 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.720 know, zero scholarship players two and a half months ago. So it was 443 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.880 a little bit of a herculean task to build a team that we thought could 444 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.400 be very good, competitive and a team that's gonna, you know, going 445 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.599 to fight for a championship. And and uh, we have a process as 446 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:11.920 to how we approach obviously, you know, uh, grassroots and high school 447 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.599 recruiting, and a process to how we attack the portal. You know, 448 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:22.720 we have we have metrics and uh basketball analytics and statistics that we value and 449 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.559 that that equate and correlate to our system. And uh, but then we 450 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:33.480 also have you know, uh, mechanisms if you will, that measure other 451 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.960 things that truly you can't measure, right the makeup in the DNA, the 452 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.119 character, the competitiveness, the toughness, you know a lot of the things 453 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.359 that you can't measure that we value as well. And you know you have 454 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.000 to peel we call it peel away the onion. You got to do your 455 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.039 due diligence. You got to make the calls and ask the questions, and 456 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.359 those things really matter to us, you know. I think the ultimate intangible 457 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:03.079 guy, ultimate intangible guy met today and Russ Smith who was on campus and 458 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.400 came to our workout today and Diesel Petz Man like his makeup, his DNA 459 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:14.119 is so special. Obviously he was severely under recruited. And Peyton made the 460 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.039 point to that. I thought it was great. He said, he came 461 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.559 in with two stars and he ended up putting number two up in the rafters 462 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.079 at the end of his career. That's a hell of a line. You 463 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:27.720 proud of Peyton for that was pretty good. Tayton's Dayton's pretty smart dude. 464 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.240 And but yeah, so it is a process of obviously looking at statistics metrics, 465 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.200 but then also the immeasurables as well. So with the personnel that you 466 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.640 guys that have added this year, I'm sure you're still learning a lot about 467 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.480 these guys and it's all new for most of them. But you know, 468 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.759 in the brief time you've had some of them on campus, I know some 469 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.599 just arrived. Have you seen some things that maybe pleasantly surprised you about some 470 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.000 of these players maybe some things that you weren't expecting. I mean, they're 471 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:57.240 they're they're all they're all doing an unbelievable job. They're they're eagle, eager 472 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.759 learners to our system. I mean, they're it's a very veteran team. 473 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:07.799 These are guys that are come in decorated right from winning programs, that have 474 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.160 that have been a part of championship programs, gone to NCAA tournaments, and 475 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.799 older guys that that I don't want to say setting their ways, but they're 476 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.000 used to a certain way and just being different in terms of, you know, 477 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:25.759 maybe the way we structure practice or the way that we label or call 478 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.640 or terminology in a certain action that's maybe just different. It's just there's in't 479 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:37.240 there's an uh. There's a period of adapting, right and adjusting. You've 480 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.839 probably seen the article in the paper just about Eli Foy, our strength coach. 481 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.119 I believe one of our secret weapons. I've been with Eli a long 482 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.720 time and I just know, you know, when when when guys come in 483 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.880 for the first time into our program and they kind of get indoctrinated, if 484 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.079 you will, into our culture. Part of it is just an absolute butt 485 00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.160 kicking and beat down in the weight room for a couple of weeks and and 486 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:01.839 I tell guys all the time, you know you're going to take a step 487 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.519 backward before you take a step forward, and it's when they turn that corners. 488 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.240 It gets to the end of June into July, you really start seeing 489 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.480 the body composition change. They're feeling bounce here, more athletic than they ever 490 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.920 have and by then they're even more comfortable into our system, and then things 491 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:22.880 really really start to roll. But man, I got no complaints. Those 492 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.279 guys have been working their butts off and it's just nice to have everybody here 493 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:32.079 as well. Within the last two or three days, final couple guys, 494 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.039 Karin Johnson and Canai Russ had both got to campus. So it's just good 495 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.319 to have to have all your guys here. Pat Kelsey's our guests joining us 496 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.640 here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I know, when it comes to coaching, 497 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.839 there's a lot of different styles, different ways to go about it. 498 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.680 I think coaching at its core is really being a leader, and I'm curious 499 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.640 there's different ways to lead, different ways to go about it. As mentioned, 500 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:59.559 but other leaders, maybe outside of basketball coaches that you find yourself admiring 501 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.400 maybe things you take from those. It could be a coach of a different 502 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.000 sport, could be, you know, a leader of a corporation. Just 503 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.599 curious on maybe where you get motivation and kind of where you try to, 504 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:14.000 you know, continue to grow as a coach. Yeah, I mean, 505 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.119 I think part of it is I've just been so lucky and blessed to be 506 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.640 around great men and great leaders throughout my whole life. And you know, 507 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.599 it starts with my father, Mike Kelsey, Hugh's former marine and a businessman 508 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:31.839 in Cincinnati, father of five, grandfather of what is it twenty four now, 509 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.039 and just the way he leads, the way he works, the way 510 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.279 he loves, the way he builds the cultures that he's created his businesses and 511 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.599 within his family. And then my grandfather. You know, I could say 512 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.759 the same thing. My high school coach, Joe Schoenfeld, He's been an 513 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:54.400 elder high school for over three decades. Beloved, successful, does it the 514 00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:00.799 right way, Principal, hard working, The late great Skip Prosser, who 515 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.880 was my college coach and brought me into the coaching professional before you tragically passed 516 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.239 away in two thousand and seven, just a few short days before my oldest 517 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.039 daughter, Ruthie was born just just lucky to learn from people that I could 518 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:22.480 emulate of not only how to act carry yourself professionally, but also but also 519 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.559 personally as well. All Right, I'm going to throw some rapid fire questions 520 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.559 at you, coach. Some of these will be basketball related, some of 521 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.000 these are questions where fans can just kind of get to know you a little 522 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.119 bit, know more about Pat Kelsey, not just the coach, but Pat 523 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.679 Kelsey the guy. Let's start with this. I know you're a music fan. 524 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:43.039 You complimented our intro music there that we had for you, and I'm 525 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.000 sure you know this. Louisville has a lot of big music festivals that continue 526 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.400 to grow. They're known all across the country. Let's say there's going to 527 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.559 be a Pat Kelsey stage at one of these music festivals, and you are 528 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:58.760 tasked with booking four acts that are going to be there, the four musicians 529 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.920 or acts that you think would best reflect your musical taste. Who you Who 530 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.440 you booking? You can get anybody. They're gonna be lined up, I 531 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:12.719 mean, foremost with I'm starting first and foremost with Louisville's own Jack Harlow answer 532 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.760 close. You know I'm gonna go. If I'm staying in the hip hop 533 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.920 genre, I'm going with Jay Z. I'm going to old school a little 534 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:27.119 bit there, Hall of Famer, the Goat. If I'm going just kind 535 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.880 of down deep in my core, just something I like to pop in and 536 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.920 and and pull up on my on my phone and I'm gonna listen to little 537 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.920 Bruce Springsteen. And then if I'm going country, man, that's a tough 538 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:46.880 call. Big Zach Bryant, Guy Love, Zach Brown, Little Kenny Chessney, 539 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:51.360 old school. I'm I'm versatile man. I can bob and weave in 540 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.199 a bunch of a bunch of different genres. Do I sound smart when I 541 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.679 say genre? Yeah? Yeah, you sound you sound musically inclined. I 542 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880 mean you sounds like you know I'm tricking you tricked me a little bit. 543 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.760 I think that would be that would all that would do was just make the 544 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.840 resale ticket prices even more expensive. That would be a heck of a group 545 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.679 to add to one of these music festivals around here that Brian he sings the 546 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.679 Revival, So I know, yeah, so's my deal? Did that come 547 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.599 to you out of nowhere? Because it really has become sort of your you 548 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.239 know, that's how we know there's some good things on the way. Did 549 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:23.239 you give that much thought? Did it just hits you? Obviously? The 550 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:29.679 revival is is the tagline here to think. I like to think I have 551 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.239 a little creativity in me. It's always been sort of who I am in 552 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.800 my DNA, and you know, I went through it. We came up 553 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.280 with the sing rock to Hill because it's in rock Hill, South Carolina, 554 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.280 Charleston. He said our city, right, you know, Louisal basketball is 555 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:49.320 already just absolutely you know, uh connected with with Louisville basketball and Charleston. 556 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.199 We were trying to so we said our city and I got to give a 557 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.639 little shout out point to the passer to Brian Klohman, my long long time 558 00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.880 assistant. He came up with with the revival with the b I L L 559 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.960 E at the end of Ville. So, uh, shout out to coach 560 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.639 my credit for that one. Shout out to my guy klo. That's that's 561 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.320 I mean, it's it's already caught on in a major way, all right. 562 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:13.280 When you let's just go back to the early part of your coaching career, 563 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.960 obviously from Cincinnati and you're familiar with Louisville, the city and obviously Louisville 564 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:21.800 basketball. But if somebody brought up Louisville basketball to Pat Kelce fifteen years ago, 565 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.400 who was the first player that would come to mind for you? Is 566 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.079 someone who played here at some point throughout their career? Just the first guy 567 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.760 that comes to mind. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell a little fib here, 568 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:36.920 and I'm gonna say Peyton Siva because he's my guys on my staff. That's 569 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.920 my brother. Obviously, that whole team was special for us today, all 570 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.960 those guys. But I gotta say, just because I grew up in the 571 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.639 eighties, I gotta say, never nervous Purvis Ellison, that would probably be 572 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.360 the first thing that pops into my mind. But if that's player, but 573 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.519 then you know, obviously Benny Crum, you know, I don't know. 574 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.360 I don't want to leave somebody in there, and no, I get I'm 575 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.760 kind of putting in a tough spot to be honest with you. Which, 576 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:07.960 hey, you gave a good answer. You one of your one of your 577 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.280 guys, Goud's on your staff. That was the first time you mentioned, 578 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.960 which I think is a safe, safe way to go about it all right, 579 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:15.159 Uh, we won't keep you too much longer. I have one more 580 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.320 question, though, and this is another spot that I'm kind of putting you 581 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.079 in here, But favorite meal or I guess best meal you've had since you've 582 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.280 been in town. And I'm sure you haven't had a bad one. Ol. 583 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:28.480 Man, you can't do that to me. I got to I got, 584 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.719 I got, I got friends. I'm building friendships all over the place. 585 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.440 Unbelievable closine. I think that's one of the underrated things about Louisville, 586 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.119 man, is the food scene. There's some great restaurants here and I've been 587 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.960 to a lot of them, and there is no way, there is no 588 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:45.880 way you're getting me to just name one of them. Man, I'm not 589 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.719 doing it. Hey, I'm Switzerland right now. Man, I'm Switzerland. 590 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.840 I'm staying in the middle. Yeah. That's that's a good way to go 591 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:53.639 about it. And I'm glad to hear you say that. Because Louisville is 592 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.559 a city. Is someone who's been here my whole life. We do claim 593 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.280 to be a foodie city. And I don't know if it's just because we 594 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.039 feel that way and everybody feels that way, but if you're you know, 595 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.440 I know you're probably eating some of the best spots in town. So if 596 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.079 you believe that that's that's a complement of the city, I do got to 597 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.480 give a little shout out that I can't believe I'm saying this because I'm given 598 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.079 I'm giving them some advertising, but being a Cincinnati guy, there is Skyline 599 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.159 here, which is kind of nice. Little graters. But I just said 600 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.440 I want to name anybody, and then I just named two of them. 601 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.400 Well, it's I think it's a given you. Is there anybody from Cincinnati 602 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:31.679 that doesn't love Skyline? Uh, they don't last long. Yeah, it's 603 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.960 a staple. Not you're not You're not one of You're not one of us. 604 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.079 Yeah. I've gotten that vibe from a lot of folks from Cincinnati, 605 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.159 and it's good stuff. It's just clearly it's and I love that Cincinnati kind 606 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.800 of takes takes ownership right, they take pride in Skyline kind of being their 607 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:47.039 thing. All Right. I lied one more question, and this is one 608 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.039 I should have asked earlier. Johnny ballgame. Obviously you mentioned the family has 609 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:55.360 not all made the move just yet. How excited is he? I don't 610 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.360 know your whole family. I'm sure is really excited. But he became a 611 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:04.239 notable know figure within the Charleston basketball program during during your time there. Is 612 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.519 he is he ready to do the same thing for the Bill. Yeah, 613 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:15.280 I mean Johnny. I mean he's just he's just the typical eleven year old 614 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.599 boy, right and he just whatever's in season he's into. He loves who, 615 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.960 he loves to be in the gym. He's the son of a coach, 616 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.440 you know. Josh is awesome. Like Johnny's in town. He lets 617 00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.519 him be around practice and be around the practice facility. That's awesome. You 618 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:35.440 know, it's a very very demanding profession, so meshing the two things, 619 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.119 your personal life and your professional life is really really important or probably never going 620 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.159 to see your family. So but yeah, he's good. He can't wait 621 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:49.639 to get the Louisville He's been scouting out grade schools and possible AU programs. 622 00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.119 That's awesome. We'll see. He can't wait. Well, coach, I 623 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.480 appreciate you making time for us. Again, I know you're very busy. 624 00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.159 We're all happy that you're here, excited to get this thing started in a 625 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.440 few months and whatnot. So again, thanks so much. Coach and we'll 626 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.960 talk to you down the line. Hey, Nick, thank you man. 627 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:13.000 Enjoyed it all right, take care again. That's Pat Kelsey. All right, 628 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.039 very little time left here to wrap up the three o'clock hour. And 629 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.199 the last question that I asked Pat Kelsey about Johnny ballgame, his son who 630 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.760 is eleven years old. As he mentioned, he went viral a couple of 631 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:29.519 times during their stint in Charleston. You know, he's the son of a 632 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:34.119 coach and he's a baller himself, So I mean, I think it's pretty 633 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.559 normal, I would say for young kids to be all in watching their dad 634 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.920 coach, and you know, I mean they're part of the family, right. 635 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.199 I don't mean just you know, the coaches family. I mean like 636 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.840 the program's family. Heck, the fan base his family. But there was 637 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:52.079 a game whenever stony Brook and Charleston played each other, and it was an 638 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.239 overtime. Charleston is up with not much time left in overtime by about five. 639 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.519 And I don't know if it was a code or a player for Charleston 640 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.239 that was complaining to the refs, But as that happened, the TV or 641 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.199 the camera went to the sideline and you can see Johnny Kelsey Johnny ballgame as 642 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.079 they call him, uh do like mimicking like the crying, like putting his 643 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.719 hands over his eyes, like mimicking somebody being a cry baby. And it 644 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.480 was just it was perfect. And then there was some social media content as 645 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:29.119 well from the Charleston basketball account that had him in practice being miked up. 646 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:34.199 So yeah, I think you're gonna see the Kelsey family pretty you know. 647 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.440 I mean it's hard to not be you know, out I don't mean alongside 648 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:43.320 with with Coach Kelsey everywhere they go, but you know, you can't really 649 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.639 be that. You know, hopefully people don't, you know, make it 650 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.880 difficult when they go out to dinner or things like that. But there's a 651 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.639 reason I brought up the whole craziness, right, we're crazy about basketball, 652 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:57.519 and I think you can be aware of that, but you really don't know 653 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.679 it until you you're here and experience. And I don't mean crazy to where 654 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.599 we're lunatics. I mean we can be lunatics, trust me. But you 655 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.800 know, it's gonna be hard for Pat Kelsey to go get gas or go 656 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.679 to a restaurant, to do anything around Louisville without people, you know, 657 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.320 wanting to picture or really just saying hey, welcome to Louisville, or maybe 658 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.519 you know one to talk ball, because that's how much people care. So 659 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.519 again, if you didn't hear the interview at all or here in its entirety, 660 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:27.480 we'll replay it for the five o'clock crowd, probably probably start the five 661 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.719 o'clock hour with it. I mean, I'll open the five o'clock hour, 662 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.159 reset some things, and you know, pay the bills, that kind of 663 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.000 stuff, But then we'll get right to it for those of you that might 664 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.760 have missed out on it. All right, quick break coming up. On 665 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.639 the other side, we've got a lot more to get into. We'll continue 666 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:46.159 the conversation about these conferences that don't have the revenue that the Big ten and 667 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.480 the sec have. They're getting creative. I hope the ACC is doing the 668 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.920 same thing, because you're gonna need money more than you ever have needed money 669 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:58.960 as a high level college program, given the fact that you're now being given 670 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.920 the bill. I mean by that is, you now have to pay the 671 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:05.440 players, and if you don't, good luck, you might as well close 672 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.039 up shop. That sounds extreme, but let's be real here, money matters. 673 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.880 So we'll get to that and a lot more. Keep it locked right 674 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:14.320 here on Sports Talk seven ninety