Hello, and welcome to Deb's Dota Dojo, shedding the lights on UFOs or
UAPs. Hello everybody. Today we're going to be talking to Scott from the
Asking Alien Project, and I'm happy to say we also have two caves here
today. We have DJ and Kevin. Hey, what's up? Hello,
Kevin Froze? Now, Kevin, are they playing PlayStation four at your house
again? Okay? And so you could tell Scott who's the humor one calling
all bees? It's Kevin. Who's the researcher on calling all bees? It's
dab right. Kevin is frozen not only in time, but in space the
best way. Okay. Well, the people who are listening, of course,
we can see each other. I know you can't appreciate or are lovely
miaming and whatnot. But we're gonna go ahead and get started. So Scott,
can you please tell us a little bit about the ask An Alien Project?
Sure? Well, it's all It all started in this past summer.
And I suppose to really tell you how the project started. I should tell
you a little bit about myself. That'd be great. Oh. I work
for the government, but not in anything that has to do with aliens and
UFOs. Unfortunately it's Emergency Services frontline worker, and unfortunately, early in twenty
twenty one, I came down with COVID nineteen and I'm still to this day
having some significant breathing problems and I'm trying to keep the coughing down to a
minimum here, So I apologize to the listeners if there's lots of coughing and
gasping, but I'm doing the best I can. So I went from a
fairly active lifestyle trying to help the community as much as I can to zero
in the past year. And while I've been working on getting better and recovering,
I've had a lot of time to think and work, been watching a
lot of YouTube videos. And one of the interests that I had when I
was at work and talking to a lot of the guys at work was UFO's
UAP type things. And we've just gotten quite interested in the whole release of
videos from the US Navy fighter pilots and the Unidentifieder out phenomenon this kind of
thing, and I've always had an interest in anything to do with the possibility
of contact with the alien life. I've always been interested in that big science
fiction fan but also from a practical sense, also sort of thinking, well,
okay, what if you know, if you take a look at them
from There's so many different aspects of science fiction, but one thing that really
caught my mind was that district and nine that show where the Aliens land in
Johannesburg, South Africa, all things, and it really made me think about
sort of how North America centric. A lot of our views are on UFOs
and UAPs and so we'll come back to that piece and in a minute.
But anyways, so in August and September we had a lot of the forest
fires up here in British Columbia and couldn't go outside of the house. I
couldn't go outside and do anything if I wanted to. So we were watching
these video space videos UFOs and I got talking to my wife and I thought,
you know, everyone and their dog has a UFO video or a concept
that talks about how fast will their ships go and how do they get here?
And what do they look like and all these kind of things. But
it occurred to me I didn't see anyone asking the questions from sort of a
more sociological point of view or historical point of view, like what do they
do when they're not visiting other planets. Do they have relationships? How long
have they been doing this for? Are we the first planet they've visited?
Are we the thirty seventh? Do they know of other planets? And so
I started asking all these questions, and one day I came up with kind
of a rant on this, and I came up with like fifty some odd
questions that I'd like to ask an alien if I could sit down and have
a conversation with me, right And honestly, my wife was a little,
uh just getting tired of this to watch it write this down, So I
started doing that. And part of the problem when you're home recovering and you've
got lung issues is you really can't do any physical activities, right. I
like to weightlift and hike and mountain bike, none of that. So I'm
stuck on the coach. So the kids taught me how to play video games,
something I wasn't previously interested in. And then I got the idea,
you know, if they can teach me that, I wonder, yeah,
exactly exactly. You know, I wonder what's involved in making a YouTube video?
Because I want to share these questions. I wanted to bring forth this
and around that time, so I guess it must be say September October or
so. I started a Twitter account for asking Alien and and a few followers,
and then you know, it started to get a little more interest,
a little more interest. By the time October rolled around, I had enough
sort of breath capacity that I could start talking a little more, and I
found it. First recording these videos was very difficult, but my daughter taught
me about a program, the Audacity software, where I can record and make
little snippets and stuff. And so when you listen to the videos we've produced,
it sounds like I'm giving a speech non stop. It's actually fifteen different
sections that are now spliced for all the coughing and whatnot, all edited out,
so it sounds nice and smooth to everybody. Okay, so you're pretty
dedicated to the area of zeno linguistics, well, exactly exactly, And so
this whole thing is a family affair. It's a family project. My wife
with the editorial kind of views or playing the the devil's advocate kind of role,
and some for some of the more explorational well, what if they're on
a planet that's tidly locked and this sort of thing. And my daughter,
she's the artist that did Andromeda our spokes alien, the little our little alien
icon there, that's her original artwork. And she helped me learning how to
do all the programs in the software is I didn't I know how to do
CPR, and I know how to rush to the scene, and I know
how to save people. I didn't know how to record, so you know,
that's not my specialty. So my daughter was the one that helped with
all that. Well, so far, the very impressive videos. Can you
please tell people where to find them on YouTube? Sure? So it's the
ask an Alien channel. And one of the things we do is we have
our videos are done in both English and French. Many of us up here
in Canada speak French, and I learned that there's a huge can unity in
France and in the Francophone world that's quite interested in UFOs. The culture around
unidentified aera phenomena is slightly different in France. They seem to take it more
like, yeah, okay, this is this is probably more likely real.
There seems to be less of the stigma. You know, it's still there
to a bit, but it strikes me as being just a little less and
the interest is a little higher. I mean, they've had a government agency
gui BAT, you know, being interested in UFOs since the nineteen nineties.
So I make sure that we do our videos. We do an English language
video and then I translate it and redo it in French. And if you
look at the name of our Twitter account, the account is actually ask an
alien slash crist right questions for an UFO. The other thing is when we
talk about when I talk about that District nine movie where the Aliens land in
Johannesburg, South Africa, that's sort of where I got the idea that you
know, all the time in movies and whatnot, the Aliens land at the
White House or New York, or they attack Los Angeles, Well why not
Johannesburg, why not Rio? Why not somewhere else? So the auvni word
of je dante fier right oh ova in it's the same acronym in French,
Spanish, Italian, Portuguese right. The warding is obviously slightly different, pronunciation
is slightly different, but the concept's the same. So by making videos with
that tag, you can get people, or even when you put a tweet
out with it you can attract people that you know, like us, are
quite interested in this subject from all over the Spanish speaking world, Italian speaking,
Portuguese speaking, and French speaking, and really get sort of a more
global kind of ass back on it. And that's what I'm trying to do.
And Google Translate is your friend, right, so we can see an
article in Italian on these subjects, I will forward that, I will tweet
that out, I'll put that out, I'll respond to it, and you
know, Google Translate to help. So I'm really trying to take a more
wide ranging focus than just strictly North America. Right, Yes, it's definitely,
it's definitely a very I know it's a lot to talk about. There's
a whole aspect that you're touching on that It's true most people haven't, which
is just like really getting a little deeper into their socio behavioral aspects. Right.
I do want to break down a little bit more about the linguistics side
and the research you've done, but before we do that, I wanted to
give DJ a chance to ask a question. Sure So, I'm curious,
Scott, of of these many questions that you've come up with. Surely that
there are some that resonate with you the most, that are the most intriguing
that if they were to turn up on your doorstep tomorrow, you'd say,
Okay, I there's probably a top three or something. There may be more,
But which questions resonate with you the most? Oh wow, that's tough.
Well, I think a couple of them would be how long have you
been visiting us for? And that, to me would be kind of a
core question, because you know, we've seen all the interests since Roswell and
all the sort of thing. But it's made me, you know, And
of course we know from the show's ancient aliens. And I do understand and
appreciate the controversy where we try and put we try and who we take alien
concepts and apply them to human history as potentially diminishing the value of those cultures
having grown organically themselves. I understand that concept, and I certainly don't mean
to cause any offense to indigenous cultures, but I think we need to be
open to the possibility that there has been contact with species not of this earth
with some of our oldest civilizations, and perhaps things have got lost in time,
lost in mythology. But I for one, would not be surprised if
one day we come up with definitive proof that they've actually been visiting us for
twenty thousand years. I think that's possible. But when we get I should
say, the one of the principles of our project, or one of the
kind of core things or slogan if you will, and sort of guides what
we do and how we go forward, is disclosure is imminent. So we
had better get ready, right everything already. If I think it's already happened,
you can say it's already happened, and so we're already here. But
if we're not, if we're at the process where it's a boat to we
need to have pens and paper ready to go and start ready to ask questions
because, as I say, and excuse me, okay, the Wi fi
is doing great, my lungs not so much with you. If it's not
just good enough to know that they visited us, we need to know why
they visited us. Oh where did you hear that? Before? Deb see?
I think I think I'll just I'll go into this for a moment,
so you can have a break for speaking for just a minute while we talk
about this. So My perspective is I want to know who, but smarter
people than me want to know why, And yeah, I just I want
to know who first. Like that, that's where I'm at. I want
to see pictures, I want to see species. And it's clear that you've
shared the impression that it's probably extraterrestrial. A lot of people have different ideas
of what that means and different ideas of what these entities are, and I'm
not going to I'm not going to try to break that down today. We're
going to go with extraterrestrial for this particular podcast session. But you know,
obviously that's that's like I want to know who the occupants are. That's where
I am with that absolutely. And to answer your question, because I don't
think I really did. You're talking with some of the key questions for me.
One of them that struck me on the last episode is why haven't you
left? You keep coming back your visit these these various events, and we
can pinpoint, we can at least go back to nineteen forty seven at a
minimum and see a fairly significant body of evidence that suggests that we have been
visited by craft not of this earth. Well, it's nineteen forty seven till
now. You know, by way of example, we went to the Moon
for a couple of years in the seventies, and other than a few probes,
we haven't really been back. Obviously, I'd like us to go back,
but the example is we were only there for a very short amount of
time. How do we count for this large amount of time? Are they
fascinated with us? Is there something they need? Trying to accomplish something?
Right now? Someone who is kind of an expert on the ancient civilizations happens
to be here. So, Kevin, do you want to chime in a
little bit on what you think about them being around for some time and why
they might be staying. Well, I think you're right about the fact that
maybe they may have left and come back, but I also think sometimes it
may be that they never left. Another thing I've thought about is that we
remember we're discussing being seated. I think maybe what if we weren't the ones
that were seated? M is seated? Do you mean manipulated? Yeah?
I'm sorry, Yeah, I got it. Okay, you know what if
it was not? Oh? Oh, so do you mean another intelligence on
the planet? Yeah? Ah, well, I mean, that's that's kind
of an interesting constant we talk about other intelligences on the planet. You know.
I remember in nineteen eighty three watching original Doctor Who episodes with the Fifth
Doctor Pete Davison, the best of all of course, and the Silurian episode,
and it really made me think when they're talking about the creatures that had
been on this planet underwater for millennia, and you know, when you think
about how little of our oceans are explored, and we really cannot rule this
out, not to mention the the affinity that we notice a lot of the
tic tac UFOs that other things seem to have with bodies of water. We
know they seem to be interested in nuclear power, but we also seem to
notice this correlation with large bodies of water. So what's with the water?
Is that something they require? Is that's a place they go to hide?
Is that just another place for to explore that's different from the surface world?
You know? Do they have a community somewhere? We simply don't know because
we don't have the technological ability to reach every last deep place on Earth or
someplace we just can't get to. So it does make one wonder, yes,
and there have been supposedly sightings not only of craft coming in and out
of the water, but actual entities within the water. And there's also a
parallel to our folklore about mermaids that makes you wonder. So there's a lot
of guesswork involving what's going on with that. Some people say the water may
be for energy purposes. Some people think there might be habitats in the water.
You know, there's so much that we don't know about our oceans.
It's fast. What do you think? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
interrupt you, but I wanted to get your take on that. What do
you think about like energy habitats. I definitely think they're probably in the water.
I think it makes sense. I did actually research it. It's interesting.
The thing that comes to my mind is that the water may be similar
to a planet they've come from. That seems to be the most likely reason
to me. But I looked up Apparently the pressure in our oceans is considerably
greater than space. So the only reason that I could think to want to
go actually live in the water is because you're used to it. That's the
environment you're from, And honestly, it's probably just feels a little safer in
there because you know humans are on land. You know, it's just like
a great high it's like a huge hideout. If they came out of the
water, right, it would be pressurized. So if they came out,
boom, spontaneous human combustion. Explain, Well, it's it's worth noting that
some of these sightings are not from space. You know. It's it's not
as space oriented as people think. Yes, there are some things going on
in space. Yes there's some radiation that indicates space travel, but a lot
of it seems to be pretty related to on planet or within the water.
So what what is that that energy hypothesis for you? Scott? What do
you think about that? Lou al Zando's talked about that maybe they're able to
somehow extract hydrogen from the water quite easily rather than a plant like we would
need to use to get it to you. How does that resonate with you
or not at all? Well, I haven't really given the technology side of
it that much thought, because, like I say, the focus for us
has been more on kind of the sociological and kind of the behavioral side of
it. You know, that's sort of what I've been looking at, but
I don't think we can rule anything out. One of the things we talk
about the energy that's used though, that we can't help but notice, and
something that I only just learned a couple months ago myself is the you know,
it was explained to me that the reason we can see lightning and it's
so bright is because there's so much energy that it's igniting. It's energizing to
photons the actual like the atomic particles, and causing them to glow brilliantly.
So take that to the craft that we see that appear to be glowing balls
of light, whether it's sort of that dripping light kind of thing like front
of the side of the craft in Chile, or you see some of the
other ones, like, for example, the the nine balls of light at
thirty nine thousand feet over the South China Sea that was seen by a pilot
just a couple of weeks ago, the nine that then turned into twelve,
which then turned into nine again. The balls of light is that because the
energy expenditure of those craft is so much that it's activating the photonotage photon cyclic
atoms in the light around exactly much like lightning, and so it's you know,
it's a fascinating idea, which makes me wonder what the heck happens they
go under water, you know, like, what does it do to the
water around them? I don't know. It appears that they're I mean,
deb is probably going to be able to explain this better than I can.
But it appears that they're somehow able to go into the water without interacting with
the water in terms of making a splash. They're not displacing the water somehow,
right, Deb, Yeah, help me out. I mean, I
would love to have the answer for that. And actually, you know,
and one of the things I'll be talking to someone about next week will be
the physics and some of the mechanics, because there's some things I don't know
obviously, but what something, Yeah, you don't know. There's so many
things. Man, I can't believe this, But I will tell you that
some people have said something about these objects having sort of a bubble around them,
you know those, and I think maybe that might be why we're not
getting displaced water. Well, what we like to do in the Asking Alien
Project is take what we can from science, from our own understanding of biology,
from our own understanding of physics, from our own sociology, from how
we interact and applying it to the phenomenon. So when we talk about the
effect and water, I think of the Department of Homeland Security flur video taken
over Puerto Rico a few years ago, where exactly and it's quite it really
kind of identifies what we're talking about. So they've picked up an image and
it's going across the airfield and parts of Puerto Rico, and it's it's black.
So it's actually glowing hot, is what it is. Right, you're
picking up the infrared. And so then it goes into the water with as
you say, not making a splash, and then it reappears out of the
water as two different objects and they keep flying. Now imagine if I don't
take it, I don't think it's actually hot, but but I'll go back
and check that. I think it actually might be cold. Okay, well,
I certainly stand to be corrected. But the point is it goes from
the air into the water without any splash, debris, crash, whatsoever,
and then reappears again. Surely they're at right, So how to look too
for that? And could you imagine if you take an F eighteen and you're
just, Oh, I'm just gonna nose dive into the Caribbean. I will
go ahead. Look, I was just going to say, I've heard a
few times about the objects dividing or other objects coming out of bigger objects,
including spears coming out of saucer shapes and saucer shapes coming out of tic TACs.
So it seems like there's definitely a Russian doll phenomenon going on with this.
And I've also seen video, which of course we can't validate. That's
the trouble with some of these videos right where it looks like plasma movements creating
these You know, it's so exactly, it's beyond what we can fully grasp,
and we're just doing our best to put these pieces together. So again,
I appreciate that you're bringing another piece to the table, and I wanted
to go into that a little bit more so. You've talked a great deal
in your video about linguistics, yes, and zeno linguistics to be specific,
and you mentioned that it was sort of a field. So have you connected
to other people who are working on you linguistics and what they have been researching
is what I'm kind of getting at what is the field of Zeno inquistics look
like. Well, there's there's a couple of really detailed videos on this subject,
and they kind of gave me some of the ideas. And as it
turns out, we're a multi lingual family. My daughter studies linguistics just recreationally.
She's just interested we discover the origin of language, how things evolve over
time. I've always been fascinated by the constarts of language. So we took
the general concept of Okay, so you want to ask Maleen question how precisely
you're going to do this. Now we've all seen the movie The Arrival,
which further expands in this concept of how do we get that elementary communication?
And so what I thought is, okay, well, what if we come
up with every conceivable means of communicating with a creature from another planet and we
start from will be the simplest and work to what will be the most complicated
means? Because it occurred to me there's a spectrum of possibility for communications,
right, and this is something I hadn't quite seen before. But my thought
is I go into this in the video where there's five or six kind of
means. The first with the absolute easiest is to lepathy. I mean just
direct brain to brain, that's it. And I take that from a few
different from a few different angles. You talk to experiencers, and you talk
to people that have have had close contact, you do see this consistent theme
that they could understand concepts that were being sent to them, that there was
some level of communication that they couldn't quite understand. Right, And then we
take a look at okay, well what about speech of some sort? Well,
all right, so they've had all this time to listen to radio broadcasts
and televis from Earth since the nineteen twenties and thirties, Right, there's all
sorta ofly if they just if they just watch Sesame Street, you know,
Sesame Street or Paw Patrol for long enough, they're going to get an idea.
But there are some technical problems with that if you think about it.
So what if they don't actually have the proper vocal courts to expel spoken language
in the same way we do, they might be able to pick up some
of this audibly and possibly not you know whether or not they can hear in
the same audible range as we can. Right, So then so let's say
they can communicate, okay, what language? You know, getting back to
my point that so much of our focus is all on Aliens landing in you
know, New York or London or sit It's all very Anglo centric. So
my thought is, so, why wouldn't they learn Mandarin, Chinese, Why
wouldn't they learn Spanish? Why wouldn't they learn some other language? So we
talked about some of the difficulties and advantages of other languages, you know that
we actually from everything I could see, it struck me that one of the
easiest languages for them to learn would be Spanish because there's just so much of
the language is properly pronounced, is it like each Almost all syllables and vowels
are actually enunciated when you speak. And I thought the most difficult would actually
be Arabic because of the guttural sound and like the glottal sound from the back
of the throat that you need to generate, right, So they also might
have difficulty with Dutch in the in the same aspect that kind of sound.
So you know, there's I'm talking about the physical difficulties and what languages of
ours that they could actually speak. So then let's say they can't speak any
of that. Okay, so now we talk about you know, music and
light, sound and other sorts of means to communicate. But now you're starting
to really break things down even if we talk sort of pictographically. You know,
one of the things I talk about in the video is, let's see
we show an alien a picture of a hammer. Okay, everyone's got one
in their house. Do we mean that this is a tool. Do we
mean that it's a weapon? Do we mean that it's an important religious symbol?
Almost every house, almost every garage on planet Earth has probably got a
hammer. So what's it for. There's a context problem, right, We
have to be able to get the right context across right. And I will
say that I was watching Arrival partly in preparation for today, and they covered
a little bit of how complicated it would be just for a basic sentence to
be broken down. And part of it was syntax, and part of it
was context and just things that we take for granted, like the word the
word us might mean something totally different to a different species, exactly exactly.
DJ's guys on to say, you know, I think Flemish would be very
valuable because when you think about it, they land in Belgium. There's a
lot of great breweries there run you know, these monasteries, and and I
think it would be of great value to them to be able to communicate and
get a barrel of beer that should you know, they beam up. So
I think, Kevin, Okay, then we'd have to deal with more alien
crashes and and then thenswell, Kevin, do you that could have been what
happened at Roswell with the two crashes. I think the waffles should be good
enough. Now let me say something. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna check
out now, I'm gonna leave this, leave you to dab Mckevin Scott.
Uh, you're fascinating. This is this is really really interesting. I I
I would love to to uh uh you know. I'm sure we're gonna have
you on again and we can start getting into I want dev to get into
the biology aspect because I'm trying to figure out if they want our biology,
why they want our biology, what can they not create and synthesize on their
own without getting human samples. Well with that, our next next episode is
focused on exoplanets and from the point of what do we know about exoplanets now
and how would that likely affect beings on that planet high gravity, low light,
whatever it may be. So that kind of addresses in the biology.
I wish you guys would take on these, you know, more intellectual topic
and I'm star hey. I want to say uh First, I want to
say thank you for your service to Canada, and I hope that you find
out find a way to uh help your your health and your lungs. I
might suggest whim Hof breathing. He's also from the Netherlands. If you haven't
heard to whim Hof with the ice bath thing. That guy, that guy
you know who he is? All Right, No, I must stay.
I leave you in the hands of two of our great Cabby's, our researcher
deb and our humorous antagonists who won't be antagonist tonight, Kevin, thank you
so very much. Thank you. It's a pleasure to meet John. Okay,
So I wanted to ask about some other things that you had covered in
your video as far as other options besides telepathy and the physical speech. What
are some other possibilities that you can think of. Well, what we did
is we took a look at how some other creatures communicate on Earth, and
some of them in terms of using like we talked about other creatures that have
form of what we would call speech, but it's just not speech as we
understand it, right, So we took a look at dolphins and whales,
killer whales, those sorts of things. I should say we also talked about
sign language with primates, but perhaps we'll come back to that after we took
a look at dolphins, and I guess one of the things is we can
see that a lot of the really intelligent marine mammals have forms of speech where
there's even regional dialects to it. The way that they communicate with their clicks
and their whistles and their sounds underwater. They can tell each other where they've
located food, they can warn each other danger, they can send different you
know, they can communicate in various different ways, and they're very social creatures.
You know, up here in the Pacific Northwest there's killer whales stay in
the same pods for life, and they're very close family units. And what
we found is when we if you take a killer well from here and you
put it on the East coast, they can't communicate. And that's caused a
lot of stress in these animals when they've been brought to places like the sea
worlds of you know, large aquariums and such. So if you take an
orca from off the coast of Washington, state of British Columbia, and you
put it in a SeaWorld type facility in Florida, they can't communicate. It
might as well be Greek and Russian. There's just no way. They just
cannot understand each other saying. So that causes a lot of stress. So
we know that they've developed a form of communication that's based on a structure that
we just can't emulate. We followed dolphins and fall looked at their types of
communications for decades. We know that the US Navy and the Israeli Navy us
dolphins for military purposes. You know, they're they're very there can there's large
amounts of intelligent communication. But we still can't ask a often how their day's
going. Right. Yes, we can, we can train, we can
understand, we can have some kind of an understanding of what we wish them
to do and what we will do if they do the thing we ask,
But we can't ask them, you know, So, how's the water temperature
today. You know what's going on? You know, how's the kids?
We can't ask, So you think there's any possibility that they'll eventually use AI
to break that down? Because it's it is. It is really interesting to
me. We get this impression that these extraterrestrial beings can come and they're capable
of communicating with us, but we can't even communicate with species on our own
planet. Well that's exactly so unless you have some sort of AI, machine
learning, some sort of neuralink type thing, I'm not sure how we'd otherwise
be able to accomplish it. We could be on the cusp of be able
to figure these things out. But you know, considering that it's creatures in
two totally different environments, that makes it more complicated. So when we do
sign language with with primates and gorillas and that sort of thing, well,
okay, we're both above ground, right, we're both somewhat genetically similar,
we both have you know, we have some similar vocal structures and whatnot.
The problem with communicating with with primates is although we can teach them sign language,
I keep coming back to the point that this is a very anthrocentric way
of communicating meaning that we are teaching them our concepts of language and our concepts
of speech and how to use our you know, tablets with colors and what
have you. You know, how exactly are you going to teach a dolphin
that? Right? We need to understand their concept We need to be we
need to be dolphin centric or orc accentric. If we're trying to talk to
that, we need to understand how do they want to communicate? Right,
So sort of put the ball back in their court. So, yeah,
I think your point, AI is very good. I think that's probably would
be the solution, right. And I know there were other areas and I
want to get to them, but this, this is one of the questions
that I really couldn't wait to ask you. Okay, so I want to
get it out there. When are you going to start studying the written work
that supposedly has come from UAPs, including the hieroglyphs and the ruins and like
things like that, including apparently some people think picturegraphs. I think is what
it picture glyphs, is that what they're called supposedly from UAP is the writing
aspect of the linguistics. Well, you know, we haven't gotten into an
awful lot of that. We did ask. You know, one of the
things we want to know is do you have a written language? Do you
have more than one language? Because one of the things we tend to do
and we're thinking of UAPs, is we think it's just one unified creature from
one planet. We'll hold on a minute. How do we know that there's
no multiple different UAP species, languages, dialects, factions, countries, religions,
you know, value systems, et cetera. You know a small example
of that as we look at the different excuse me, the different shapes of
UAP that we've seen. You know, you've got your tictak ufo, You've
got your delta or your pyramid, triangular type, you've got the cube type,
you've got those those sort of amorphous tail looking things voting in the area
you've got. You know, there's different types. So is that from the
same culture, the same group, the same language. Are those ships for
different purposes or are they from different plants? Right, So, when we're
talking about communicating and looking at their language, we need to think, well,
hold on a minute, would each one have a completely different written language
system? Do they use a written language? I think what I would look
for if I was examining these sorts of things is I would look for the
source, and I'd want to see the source as as close as possible,
you know, as close as we can put it to them, not to
us to them. So what I mean by this, An example that strikes
me is the police officer in the New Mexico Desert in the I think it's
the early sixties, sixty two sixty three, that's pulled over a vehicle inside
of the road, sees this great, big ball of light called let's the
cargo, tells dispatch I'm going to investigate, goes over and sees this craft,
this egg shaped craft, and it's it's just above the ground, and
there's two creatures of some sort outside. No creatures go inside the craft.
It takes off, It hovers off the ground and then takes off at a
great ray speed. But the officer was able to describe these markings that they
sort of there's a couple of vertical arrows and a circle and a line.
Looking at those markings on the outside of the craft, so a little so
yeah, So when I'm looking at at that, what I would think is
that is what I would call sort of a best in class example of written
information, some sort of representation of a language or symbol, because you've got,
you know, credible witness and you actually have it right plaster on the
outside of the craft itself. There's absolutely no question what the origin of that
was. My concern with written languages, as we see otherwise is can we
be sure that it's not a human interpretation of something? I want to see
as close as we can get to source, which is tough. But I
think we're going to have more and more than in the future, and we're
seeing we're seeing examples of UAPs caught on video daily now. Yes, I
think more people are actually looking up. I think that's part of it.
I think that's why the numbers are going up. In part. I think
also there is a sense that, you know, some people have implied that
they want to be seen right now, that they're coming out more because they
want to be seen. So there's a sense that the reason we're hurrying disclosure
now is because it's not going to be our choice much longer. I've heard
that as well. So what I've noticed in doing some research on the written
language is that there's two types that I've noticed one that looks like ruins and
then the other that looks like more of geometric shapes. So I'd be so
curious if you get a chance to go into that and maybe you might find
out something. And I don't know if there are people who are heavily researching
that, but it's really interesting that I see those two types and what comes
with them. Interestingly enough, are two of the hypotheses the future and it's
the extraterrestrial. So I'm just like, what one of those is the future
human extra I'm very interesting. I was just talking my son about that just
the other day, you know, and I'd love to see some more research
and detail on this and try and put together a little bit about it.
Be interesting to look at the written communication on it. But we were talking
about that. I mean, you know, when you think of the distance
of space, if we take a look at the nearest known exoplanets the Trappist
System, okay, four light years from here. I believe I stand to
be corrected on the distance. But let's say for a minute that number is
accurate. There's an exoplanet four light years from here, Okay, so at
the speed of light, it would still take four earth years to get there,
and you know, four earth years light for earth years to get back.
So if they're doing anything less than faster than the light travel, right,
or some other interdimensional travel, it can take decades and eons to get
here. So the concept that these are future humans actually can make a lot
of sense when you think about it. They're already here, They're already on
this planet. It just happens to be in the future. And so before
people say, well, come on, there's no such thing as time travel,
you've watched too much doctor who is a kid? Which guilty as charged.
But let's talk for a minute about technological advancement. If we go back
three hundred years from now, okay, and we look at where where we
were suring the industrial revolution and steam engines and this sort of thing. No
one knew about computers, cell phones, internet, AI, you know,
traveling to Mars, you know, all these sorts of developments, lasers,
atomic bomb, none of it. Right, Okay, Now, let's go
three hundred years into our future technologies that we can't even conceive of yet.
So who's to say that three hundred years from now they haven't actually discovered time
travel? You know, it really throws me. Some people have said,
okay, here, listen, listen to this guys. Okay, some people
have said that there was a civilization on Mars, and they think that that
civilization may have come to Earth after some issues on Mars, you know,
who knows what. And then it occurs to me, it's funny because now
we're here going to Mars. So if that is happening, it's like a
circle back and forth between Earth and Mars, right, because you can now
actually apply to go live on Mars. That is a fact. You can
now you won't come back right now, and maybe in three hundred years we'll
have that technology. Right. But then you also hear people say everything's happening
at once. The time concept is not what people think the past, the
present, everything is once, yes, right, So that's the concepts that
we're going to Mars, we may have come from Mars, and then everything's
happening at once kind of blends and it's like this is so weird and so
interesting. Well, you know, that's a fascinating concept because let's let's take
a look scientifically. What do we know about Mars? Right? We know
that there once was liquid water on the surface, right, we suspect there
was at least some sort of microbal or vegetative vegetative life. Otherwise, why
we was millions of dollars sending the curiosity rovers and other discoveries there? Why
are we doing all this trouble on Earth? I don't know. We Sorry,
it's hard to hear. We're spending so much time and effort looking for
life. So I think there's a reasonable it's a reasonable proposition that there may
well be evidence of life if there isn't still already. But you know,
we don't see any buildings and structures and what have you. And well,
one of the things that I've been looking at is what is our likely unfolding
of events in the future. From sort of an astronomical point of view,
right after so many million years, this is likely to happen, so many
tens of million years, this is likely to happen, so many billions years,
this is likely happen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. And one of the topics that you discuss is entropy, sort
of the time and offense A little hard to get the make sure I'm getting
the right definition here. The concept of the decay of everything, the progression
of time. They're saying that after a million years, there will not be
any evidence of footprints on the Moon, right, there will be no there
won't be the flag, there won't be the lunar rover, there won't be
anything that like from the original nineteen sixty nine landing on the Moon. After
one million years time, all evidence that that will have vanished, just through
the emotion of time and entropy. Okay, so how could we not say
that a million years ago there was not some sort of a civilization flourishing flourishing
on Mars. Must like you said, they came here, you know,
Are we the lifeboat? Are we the oasis? Are we the refuge?
Did they undergo a form of climate change that was irreversible, uncontainable and the
only way to survive is to flee to the next nearest planet, which would
be us. Right, it's right, certainly well within the realm of possibility,
especially because we're doing it right, Beso said, that's that's that's what
we're doing. He wants to leave and go somewhere else because it's worried about
the planet's health, which, frankly, our planet is actually still amazing.
We just need to take better care of it, you know, compared to
the other planets that we've seen, our planet is amazing. But it is
funny because everyone who doesn't believe this idea that you know, e T might
want to come here forgets that what's this what we're doing, This is exactly
what we're doing. We literally have a helicopter on Mars. We're literally signing
up to move to Mars. So why wouldn't another species be interested in doing
the same thing. It's so weird to think that, Like some that's so
egotistical to think we wouldn't right. So, yeah, it's a fascinating thing
to consider, you know, where they could be coming from. I wish
we had more answers for that, but unfortunately, you know, we're still
you know, waiting on that. I think that might not be something we
get to know in our lifetime. I think we might get to know a
little bit about occupants in our lifetime. I'm optimistic. But so when we
do find out, when we get this information that we're being visited, we
need to prepare a little more. Right, So let's talk about another of
the areas that you touched. On that you didn't get to just quite yet,
which was the area of using basically vibration to communicate. Well, that's
that struck me as the most problematic forms of communication, chemical and vibration,
right, And like I what we were thinking of that was the kind of
communication you have was a spider in its web sort of using the vibration of
its environment to detect, you know, whether or not a fly has hit
the web, and you know, so it senses things in its environment primarily
through the vibration, through touch and whatnot. And that's sort of a way
that we really don't understand. We do vibrate our vocal cords to make sound
or expel air from the lyrics, right, but we don't. We can
sense certain things through touch. We can sense heat, we can sense pressure,
we can sense cold, we can sense a few different things. But
how on earth would we sense you know, please depart now from Mars at
an altitude three hundreds of me. You know, like, how would you
how would you communicate something complex through that? Means I have no idea.
That's where I think AI would come in. And the other thought along those
lines is chemical communication. And from that we took the example of ants in
an ant hill or bees in a beehive. So there's clear communication amongst those
creatures. You know, the ants taking their direction from the queen there.
They have certain jobs to do in their society, in their like I call
it a society. In their society, there's certain jobs that are delegated.
There's you know, your warrior ants, and there's the ones that get they
get the food, and there's the queen, et cetera, et cetera.
You know, you have a delineation of tasks and there's a way to communicate
that through given certain chemical signals. Now I don't know if anyone's been able
to replicate that, although you know, there could be research. I'm sure
there's a lot of field to study of that. And if someone out there
knows about it, do let me know, make it indentum to the video.
Then you know, bees and a beehive or you know somewhat similar concept.
They can alert for danger, they know how to food production and support
what the queen needs needs to do. So they have means of communication on
a chemical basis as well. We can sort of grossly manipulate them by for
example, beekeeper using smoke to get the bees to go to sleep so the
beekeeper can retrieve the honey. But in the same token, we can't ask
the bees how their day's going, right, you know. That's one of
the things just I was thinking of enders game when you said that a lot
of people have pointed out their society may actually be more like a colony and
it's a system. We don't really think like that anymore, Like we did
have kings and queens quite a bit back in the day. But you know
this, this other society may be recognizing a different system like a colony and
might have a queen, you know, and it's just very different from how
we do things now, right. I mean, I should be careful because
they do have some kings and queens left on the planet, of course,
But but you know, it's like it's it's hard to imagine that this and
it's it's an exercise that people have to do sometimes. But imagine something that's
not even anything like what's on our planet, right, that's so hard for
our brains to do. Just like we even just like thinking about being like
in a colony. That's that's tough, right, thinking about how they interact
and communicate and then just something that's not even there's not even an example on
our planet, right you know. And then of course, one of the
concepts that that I've wondered about and I think we might come up with listen
in another video, is the idea of the value system. Right. Well,
I've just wanted to thank you once again for coming and talking to me
today. We're going to go ahead and wrap it up. In respect of
your time, I would really like you to come back in the future and
tell me about your future projects. Could you please tell people again where to
find you and what you'll be working on in the near future. Sure,
well, thank you very much for the invite. I'm honored to be here,
and it's so nice to meet you all and talk about the subject.
And it's so nice to be able to talk to people that share this passion
and share this interest, and that's it's really working on all these videos has
helped me get through a very tough time in my life, and I'm glad
that I can do something that helps share this interest with other people. And
I thank you all. We're at the Ask an Alien project on YouTube and
Alien Underscore ask on Twitter, and the next one we're working on episode for
the Exoplanet Connection, looking at the really relationship between known exoplanets and likely effects
on sociological and biological effects of extraterrestrial civilizations. You know, some examples of
how do you tell time on a planet that's tidally locked? If your planet
has ten times the gravity of Earth, how does that affect your How does
it affect your society? You know? How do how does vegetation grow on
a planet the planet that's much hotter than ours? You know, these sorts
of things. We're going to look sort of a little more onto what we
can extrapolate from what's known currently about exoplanets, and we also intend on producing
further videos on these thoughts as we discover more with the James Web Space Telescope
and other forms of research. So we're looking One of the things that fascinating
and we're so excited about is the concept of, you know, where we
can look so far into our past with this new telescope, but what if
we are aiming this telescope at the nearby exoplanets, what can what in tell
what can we learn from the from the closer planets to us, not just
the distant pass which course is interesting but I want to you know, when
we actually start aiming at you know, kepler plants, we start aiming the
trap a system, we start aiming at where we already know to look,
but we can look in greater detail than we could with Hubble, Right,
what can we glean from that? How can we learn and what can we
extrapolate about likely cultures and some of the issues they might encounter. Right now,
I just want to say a lot of people don't think about the fact
that some of these civilizations could have been on well, I should say in
the universe, not on the universe, but in the universe, on an
exoplanet, right, for goodness knows millions of years, right, or billions
because the whole whole universe is thirteen billion years. So if they if they
had to travel from an exoplanet to get here, it's possible they had time.
It's possibly they had time. But one of the things that you know,
we're excited about is the idea, if we meet one Extratresia species,
can they tell us about one or five or a one hundred other species that
they know about. If we meet one, that is the gateway to every
other species. That species has encountered you could have knowledge explosion just from meeting
one species. Right, that's something we're excited about, I know. And
they actually touched on that in contact they said that, remember in the contact
like she that she Oh boy, I think we just lost Blaire. Yes,
oh, Flair, you're still there. Great? Okay, Yes,
I would say in contact they touched on they ended up in a hub and
they had a whole bunch of different people apparently coming to that hub. So
that a great point, Flair. Before we sign off, can you please
let people know where we can find you, and again, thank you so
much for coming and co hosting today. Kevin, Oh may we don't have
Yeah, Jackie's having some technical difficulties. Unfortunately, there we go. We'll
see you. Know what, It's funny because even humans are having problems with
communication right now, it's ironic. Great Okay, So, Flair, thank
you again for co hosting, and I want to thank you again at ask
an Alien project, right, we need to get into that. It's so
interesting. Scott, thank you so much for coming and talking to me and
the player and also the DJ. The Caves are really interested in your project
and we look forward to seeing you again. Wonderful at my pleasure and thank
you so much, all the best, Thank you for joining me. This
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