WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:12.919 Hello, and welcome to Deb's Dota Dojo, shedding the lights on UFOs or 2 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:31.480 UAPs. Hello everybody. Today we're going to be talking to Scott from the 3 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:36.799 Asking Alien Project, and I'm happy to say we also have two caves here 4 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:43.320 today. We have DJ and Kevin. Hey, what's up? Hello, 5 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:49.280 Kevin Froze? Now, Kevin, are they playing PlayStation four at your house 6 00:00:49.320 --> 00:01:00.640 again? Okay? And so you could tell Scott who's the humor one calling 7 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.319 all bees? It's Kevin. Who's the researcher on calling all bees? It's 8 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:11.680 dab right. Kevin is frozen not only in time, but in space the 9 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.760 best way. Okay. Well, the people who are listening, of course, 10 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.920 we can see each other. I know you can't appreciate or are lovely 11 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.879 miaming and whatnot. But we're gonna go ahead and get started. So Scott, 12 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.959 can you please tell us a little bit about the ask An Alien Project? 13 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:34.000 Sure? Well, it's all It all started in this past summer. 14 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.239 And I suppose to really tell you how the project started. I should tell 15 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.840 you a little bit about myself. That'd be great. Oh. I work 16 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.400 for the government, but not in anything that has to do with aliens and 17 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:57.120 UFOs. Unfortunately it's Emergency Services frontline worker, and unfortunately, early in twenty 18 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.359 twenty one, I came down with COVID nineteen and I'm still to this day 19 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:08.759 having some significant breathing problems and I'm trying to keep the coughing down to a 20 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:15.120 minimum here, So I apologize to the listeners if there's lots of coughing and 21 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:21.080 gasping, but I'm doing the best I can. So I went from a 22 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.719 fairly active lifestyle trying to help the community as much as I can to zero 23 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:31.680 in the past year. And while I've been working on getting better and recovering, 24 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:38.159 I've had a lot of time to think and work, been watching a 25 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:43.240 lot of YouTube videos. And one of the interests that I had when I 26 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.000 was at work and talking to a lot of the guys at work was UFO's 27 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:52.520 UAP type things. And we've just gotten quite interested in the whole release of 28 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:57.439 videos from the US Navy fighter pilots and the Unidentifieder out phenomenon this kind of 29 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:02.560 thing, and I've always had an interest in anything to do with the possibility 30 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.599 of contact with the alien life. I've always been interested in that big science 31 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.680 fiction fan but also from a practical sense, also sort of thinking, well, 32 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.719 okay, what if you know, if you take a look at them 33 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.400 from There's so many different aspects of science fiction, but one thing that really 34 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:24.479 caught my mind was that district and nine that show where the Aliens land in 35 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.599 Johannesburg, South Africa, all things, and it really made me think about 36 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:36.039 sort of how North America centric. A lot of our views are on UFOs 37 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:39.919 and UAPs and so we'll come back to that piece and in a minute. 38 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:46.360 But anyways, so in August and September we had a lot of the forest 39 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:51.719 fires up here in British Columbia and couldn't go outside of the house. I 40 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.759 couldn't go outside and do anything if I wanted to. So we were watching 41 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.000 these video space videos UFOs and I got talking to my wife and I thought, 42 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.560 you know, everyone and their dog has a UFO video or a concept 43 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:09.719 that talks about how fast will their ships go and how do they get here? 44 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.840 And what do they look like and all these kind of things. But 45 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:19.120 it occurred to me I didn't see anyone asking the questions from sort of a 46 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:24.519 more sociological point of view or historical point of view, like what do they 47 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:29.759 do when they're not visiting other planets. Do they have relationships? How long 48 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.639 have they been doing this for? Are we the first planet they've visited? 49 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:38.120 Are we the thirty seventh? Do they know of other planets? And so 50 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:42.920 I started asking all these questions, and one day I came up with kind 51 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.920 of a rant on this, and I came up with like fifty some odd 52 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.879 questions that I'd like to ask an alien if I could sit down and have 53 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:57.439 a conversation with me, right And honestly, my wife was a little, 54 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:03.079 uh just getting tired of this to watch it write this down, So I 55 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:09.319 started doing that. And part of the problem when you're home recovering and you've 56 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:15.120 got lung issues is you really can't do any physical activities, right. I 57 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.360 like to weightlift and hike and mountain bike, none of that. So I'm 58 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:25.680 stuck on the coach. So the kids taught me how to play video games, 59 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:31.000 something I wasn't previously interested in. And then I got the idea, 60 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.839 you know, if they can teach me that, I wonder, yeah, 61 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:40.639 exactly exactly. You know, I wonder what's involved in making a YouTube video? 62 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:46.000 Because I want to share these questions. I wanted to bring forth this 63 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.560 and around that time, so I guess it must be say September October or 64 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:57.759 so. I started a Twitter account for asking Alien and and a few followers, 65 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.399 and then you know, it started to get a little more interest, 66 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:04.160 a little more interest. By the time October rolled around, I had enough 67 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:11.639 sort of breath capacity that I could start talking a little more, and I 68 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.600 found it. First recording these videos was very difficult, but my daughter taught 69 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:21.199 me about a program, the Audacity software, where I can record and make 70 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:26.839 little snippets and stuff. And so when you listen to the videos we've produced, 71 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:33.279 it sounds like I'm giving a speech non stop. It's actually fifteen different 72 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:40.120 sections that are now spliced for all the coughing and whatnot, all edited out, 73 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:45.079 so it sounds nice and smooth to everybody. Okay, so you're pretty 74 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:50.720 dedicated to the area of zeno linguistics, well, exactly exactly, And so 75 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:56.439 this whole thing is a family affair. It's a family project. My wife 76 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.839 with the editorial kind of views or playing the the devil's advocate kind of role, 77 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:05.560 and some for some of the more explorational well, what if they're on 78 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:11.040 a planet that's tidly locked and this sort of thing. And my daughter, 79 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.519 she's the artist that did Andromeda our spokes alien, the little our little alien 80 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:21.399 icon there, that's her original artwork. And she helped me learning how to 81 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.399 do all the programs in the software is I didn't I know how to do 82 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.160 CPR, and I know how to rush to the scene, and I know 83 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:32.040 how to save people. I didn't know how to record, so you know, 84 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:34.839 that's not my specialty. So my daughter was the one that helped with 85 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:40.399 all that. Well, so far, the very impressive videos. Can you 86 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:44.680 please tell people where to find them on YouTube? Sure? So it's the 87 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:50.240 ask an Alien channel. And one of the things we do is we have 88 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:55.199 our videos are done in both English and French. Many of us up here 89 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:00.680 in Canada speak French, and I learned that there's a huge can unity in 90 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:07.079 France and in the Francophone world that's quite interested in UFOs. The culture around 91 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.319 unidentified aera phenomena is slightly different in France. They seem to take it more 92 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.480 like, yeah, okay, this is this is probably more likely real. 93 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.480 There seems to be less of the stigma. You know, it's still there 94 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.360 to a bit, but it strikes me as being just a little less and 95 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.879 the interest is a little higher. I mean, they've had a government agency 96 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.560 gui BAT, you know, being interested in UFOs since the nineteen nineties. 97 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.759 So I make sure that we do our videos. We do an English language 98 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:41.279 video and then I translate it and redo it in French. And if you 99 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.519 look at the name of our Twitter account, the account is actually ask an 100 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:56.000 alien slash crist right questions for an UFO. The other thing is when we 101 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:01.480 talk about when I talk about that District nine movie where the Aliens land in 102 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.840 Johannesburg, South Africa, that's sort of where I got the idea that you 103 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.799 know, all the time in movies and whatnot, the Aliens land at the 104 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:15.080 White House or New York, or they attack Los Angeles, Well why not 105 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:20.279 Johannesburg, why not Rio? Why not somewhere else? So the auvni word 106 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:28.399 of je dante fier right oh ova in it's the same acronym in French, 107 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:35.279 Spanish, Italian, Portuguese right. The warding is obviously slightly different, pronunciation 108 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.799 is slightly different, but the concept's the same. So by making videos with 109 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.480 that tag, you can get people, or even when you put a tweet 110 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:48.039 out with it you can attract people that you know, like us, are 111 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:54.360 quite interested in this subject from all over the Spanish speaking world, Italian speaking, 112 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.919 Portuguese speaking, and French speaking, and really get sort of a more 113 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.720 global kind of ass back on it. And that's what I'm trying to do. 114 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.360 And Google Translate is your friend, right, so we can see an 115 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.720 article in Italian on these subjects, I will forward that, I will tweet 116 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.039 that out, I'll put that out, I'll respond to it, and you 117 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:22.440 know, Google Translate to help. So I'm really trying to take a more 118 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.320 wide ranging focus than just strictly North America. Right, Yes, it's definitely, 119 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.080 it's definitely a very I know it's a lot to talk about. There's 120 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.840 a whole aspect that you're touching on that It's true most people haven't, which 121 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:43.159 is just like really getting a little deeper into their socio behavioral aspects. Right. 122 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.600 I do want to break down a little bit more about the linguistics side 123 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.159 and the research you've done, but before we do that, I wanted to 124 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:58.879 give DJ a chance to ask a question. Sure So, I'm curious, 125 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:03.360 Scott, of of these many questions that you've come up with. Surely that 126 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.080 there are some that resonate with you the most, that are the most intriguing 127 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:13.039 that if they were to turn up on your doorstep tomorrow, you'd say, 128 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.519 Okay, I there's probably a top three or something. There may be more, 129 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:24.240 But which questions resonate with you the most? Oh wow, that's tough. 130 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:30.240 Well, I think a couple of them would be how long have you 131 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:35.480 been visiting us for? And that, to me would be kind of a 132 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:41.799 core question, because you know, we've seen all the interests since Roswell and 133 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.440 all the sort of thing. But it's made me, you know, And 134 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:50.159 of course we know from the show's ancient aliens. And I do understand and 135 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:56.039 appreciate the controversy where we try and put we try and who we take alien 136 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:01.279 concepts and apply them to human history as potentially diminishing the value of those cultures 137 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:07.240 having grown organically themselves. I understand that concept, and I certainly don't mean 138 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.440 to cause any offense to indigenous cultures, but I think we need to be 139 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:18.200 open to the possibility that there has been contact with species not of this earth 140 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:24.320 with some of our oldest civilizations, and perhaps things have got lost in time, 141 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.600 lost in mythology. But I for one, would not be surprised if 142 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.200 one day we come up with definitive proof that they've actually been visiting us for 143 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:39.840 twenty thousand years. I think that's possible. But when we get I should 144 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:45.000 say, the one of the principles of our project, or one of the 145 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:48.519 kind of core things or slogan if you will, and sort of guides what 146 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.759 we do and how we go forward, is disclosure is imminent. So we 147 00:12:54.879 --> 00:13:03.000 had better get ready, right everything already. If I think it's already happened, 148 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.759 you can say it's already happened, and so we're already here. But 149 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.279 if we're not, if we're at the process where it's a boat to we 150 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:16.039 need to have pens and paper ready to go and start ready to ask questions 151 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:22.000 because, as I say, and excuse me, okay, the Wi fi 152 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:28.440 is doing great, my lungs not so much with you. If it's not 153 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:33.279 just good enough to know that they visited us, we need to know why 154 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:39.960 they visited us. Oh where did you hear that? Before? Deb see? 155 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.879 I think I think I'll just I'll go into this for a moment, 156 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.159 so you can have a break for speaking for just a minute while we talk 157 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:54.000 about this. So My perspective is I want to know who, but smarter 158 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.320 people than me want to know why, And yeah, I just I want 159 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.120 to know who first. Like that, that's where I'm at. I want 160 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.440 to see pictures, I want to see species. And it's clear that you've 161 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:11.559 shared the impression that it's probably extraterrestrial. A lot of people have different ideas 162 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.000 of what that means and different ideas of what these entities are, and I'm 163 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.799 not going to I'm not going to try to break that down today. We're 164 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:24.080 going to go with extraterrestrial for this particular podcast session. But you know, 165 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:28.399 obviously that's that's like I want to know who the occupants are. That's where 166 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.960 I am with that absolutely. And to answer your question, because I don't 167 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.840 think I really did. You're talking with some of the key questions for me. 168 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.240 One of them that struck me on the last episode is why haven't you 169 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:48.360 left? You keep coming back your visit these these various events, and we 170 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.960 can pinpoint, we can at least go back to nineteen forty seven at a 171 00:14:54.120 --> 00:15:00.799 minimum and see a fairly significant body of evidence that suggests that we have been 172 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:03.480 visited by craft not of this earth. Well, it's nineteen forty seven till 173 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.840 now. You know, by way of example, we went to the Moon 174 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:11.320 for a couple of years in the seventies, and other than a few probes, 175 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.440 we haven't really been back. Obviously, I'd like us to go back, 176 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.679 but the example is we were only there for a very short amount of 177 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.240 time. How do we count for this large amount of time? Are they 178 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:26.559 fascinated with us? Is there something they need? Trying to accomplish something? 179 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:33.440 Right now? Someone who is kind of an expert on the ancient civilizations happens 180 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.600 to be here. So, Kevin, do you want to chime in a 181 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.919 little bit on what you think about them being around for some time and why 182 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.600 they might be staying. Well, I think you're right about the fact that 183 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.879 maybe they may have left and come back, but I also think sometimes it 184 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.480 may be that they never left. Another thing I've thought about is that we 185 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:00.759 remember we're discussing being seated. I think maybe what if we weren't the ones 186 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:07.639 that were seated? M is seated? Do you mean manipulated? Yeah? 187 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:14.480 I'm sorry, Yeah, I got it. Okay, you know what if 188 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:22.080 it was not? Oh? Oh, so do you mean another intelligence on 189 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:27.759 the planet? Yeah? Ah, well, I mean, that's that's kind 190 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:33.600 of an interesting constant we talk about other intelligences on the planet. You know. 191 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:38.200 I remember in nineteen eighty three watching original Doctor Who episodes with the Fifth 192 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:42.840 Doctor Pete Davison, the best of all of course, and the Silurian episode, 193 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.720 and it really made me think when they're talking about the creatures that had 194 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.360 been on this planet underwater for millennia, and you know, when you think 195 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.480 about how little of our oceans are explored, and we really cannot rule this 196 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:02.840 out, not to mention the the affinity that we notice a lot of the 197 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.279 tic tac UFOs that other things seem to have with bodies of water. We 198 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.000 know they seem to be interested in nuclear power, but we also seem to 199 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.519 notice this correlation with large bodies of water. So what's with the water? 200 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.799 Is that something they require? Is that's a place they go to hide? 201 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.200 Is that just another place for to explore that's different from the surface world? 202 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.440 You know? Do they have a community somewhere? We simply don't know because 203 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:33.759 we don't have the technological ability to reach every last deep place on Earth or 204 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.440 someplace we just can't get to. So it does make one wonder, yes, 205 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:42.319 and there have been supposedly sightings not only of craft coming in and out 206 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.880 of the water, but actual entities within the water. And there's also a 207 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:55.960 parallel to our folklore about mermaids that makes you wonder. So there's a lot 208 00:17:55.960 --> 00:18:00.880 of guesswork involving what's going on with that. Some people say the water may 209 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.799 be for energy purposes. Some people think there might be habitats in the water. 210 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.960 You know, there's so much that we don't know about our oceans. 211 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.880 It's fast. What do you think? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to 212 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.880 interrupt you, but I wanted to get your take on that. What do 213 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:21.000 you think about like energy habitats. I definitely think they're probably in the water. 214 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:25.559 I think it makes sense. I did actually research it. It's interesting. 215 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.759 The thing that comes to my mind is that the water may be similar 216 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:36.119 to a planet they've come from. That seems to be the most likely reason 217 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.160 to me. But I looked up Apparently the pressure in our oceans is considerably 218 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.720 greater than space. So the only reason that I could think to want to 219 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.559 go actually live in the water is because you're used to it. That's the 220 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.839 environment you're from, And honestly, it's probably just feels a little safer in 221 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:59.440 there because you know humans are on land. You know, it's just like 222 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:03.480 a great high it's like a huge hideout. If they came out of the 223 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:11.599 water, right, it would be pressurized. So if they came out, 224 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:18.119 boom, spontaneous human combustion. Explain, Well, it's it's worth noting that 225 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.759 some of these sightings are not from space. You know. It's it's not 226 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.200 as space oriented as people think. Yes, there are some things going on 227 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:33.200 in space. Yes there's some radiation that indicates space travel, but a lot 228 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.519 of it seems to be pretty related to on planet or within the water. 229 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:42.960 So what what is that that energy hypothesis for you? Scott? What do 230 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.359 you think about that? Lou al Zando's talked about that maybe they're able to 231 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:55.200 somehow extract hydrogen from the water quite easily rather than a plant like we would 232 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:56.880 need to use to get it to you. How does that resonate with you 233 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.880 or not at all? Well, I haven't really given the technology side of 234 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:03.759 it that much thought, because, like I say, the focus for us 235 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:08.519 has been more on kind of the sociological and kind of the behavioral side of 236 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.920 it. You know, that's sort of what I've been looking at, but 237 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.400 I don't think we can rule anything out. One of the things we talk 238 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.759 about the energy that's used though, that we can't help but notice, and 239 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:26.839 something that I only just learned a couple months ago myself is the you know, 240 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.480 it was explained to me that the reason we can see lightning and it's 241 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:36.039 so bright is because there's so much energy that it's igniting. It's energizing to 242 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:41.000 photons the actual like the atomic particles, and causing them to glow brilliantly. 243 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.079 So take that to the craft that we see that appear to be glowing balls 244 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.759 of light, whether it's sort of that dripping light kind of thing like front 245 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.240 of the side of the craft in Chile, or you see some of the 246 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.880 other ones, like, for example, the the nine balls of light at 247 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:02.799 thirty nine thousand feet over the South China Sea that was seen by a pilot 248 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:04.920 just a couple of weeks ago, the nine that then turned into twelve, 249 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:11.079 which then turned into nine again. The balls of light is that because the 250 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:21.519 energy expenditure of those craft is so much that it's activating the photonotage photon cyclic 251 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:26.920 atoms in the light around exactly much like lightning, and so it's you know, 252 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.519 it's a fascinating idea, which makes me wonder what the heck happens they 253 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.000 go under water, you know, like, what does it do to the 254 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.880 water around them? I don't know. It appears that they're I mean, 255 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:38.759 deb is probably going to be able to explain this better than I can. 256 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:45.720 But it appears that they're somehow able to go into the water without interacting with 257 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:52.440 the water in terms of making a splash. They're not displacing the water somehow, 258 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:56.480 right, Deb, Yeah, help me out. I mean, I 259 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.079 would love to have the answer for that. And actually, you know, 260 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.000 and one of the things I'll be talking to someone about next week will be 261 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:07.720 the physics and some of the mechanics, because there's some things I don't know 262 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:12.160 obviously, but what something, Yeah, you don't know. There's so many 263 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:18.079 things. Man, I can't believe this, But I will tell you that 264 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:23.079 some people have said something about these objects having sort of a bubble around them, 265 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.200 you know those, and I think maybe that might be why we're not 266 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:33.920 getting displaced water. Well, what we like to do in the Asking Alien 267 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:38.160 Project is take what we can from science, from our own understanding of biology, 268 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.559 from our own understanding of physics, from our own sociology, from how 269 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:47.799 we interact and applying it to the phenomenon. So when we talk about the 270 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:52.640 effect and water, I think of the Department of Homeland Security flur video taken 271 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:59.640 over Puerto Rico a few years ago, where exactly and it's quite it really 272 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.960 kind of identifies what we're talking about. So they've picked up an image and 273 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.279 it's going across the airfield and parts of Puerto Rico, and it's it's black. 274 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.440 So it's actually glowing hot, is what it is. Right, you're 275 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.240 picking up the infrared. And so then it goes into the water with as 276 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.720 you say, not making a splash, and then it reappears out of the 277 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:26.359 water as two different objects and they keep flying. Now imagine if I don't 278 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:29.279 take it, I don't think it's actually hot, but but I'll go back 279 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.440 and check that. I think it actually might be cold. Okay, well, 280 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:36.279 I certainly stand to be corrected. But the point is it goes from 281 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:40.680 the air into the water without any splash, debris, crash, whatsoever, 282 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.200 and then reappears again. Surely they're at right, So how to look too 283 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.400 for that? And could you imagine if you take an F eighteen and you're 284 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:52.279 just, Oh, I'm just gonna nose dive into the Caribbean. I will 285 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.880 go ahead. Look, I was just going to say, I've heard a 286 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:02.839 few times about the objects dividing or other objects coming out of bigger objects, 287 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:08.559 including spears coming out of saucer shapes and saucer shapes coming out of tic TACs. 288 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:15.160 So it seems like there's definitely a Russian doll phenomenon going on with this. 289 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.400 And I've also seen video, which of course we can't validate. That's 290 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:25.880 the trouble with some of these videos right where it looks like plasma movements creating 291 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:33.720 these You know, it's so exactly, it's beyond what we can fully grasp, 292 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.680 and we're just doing our best to put these pieces together. So again, 293 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.160 I appreciate that you're bringing another piece to the table, and I wanted 294 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.000 to go into that a little bit more so. You've talked a great deal 295 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:52.839 in your video about linguistics, yes, and zeno linguistics to be specific, 296 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.839 and you mentioned that it was sort of a field. So have you connected 297 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:03.319 to other people who are working on you linguistics and what they have been researching 298 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.400 is what I'm kind of getting at what is the field of Zeno inquistics look 299 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:12.759 like. Well, there's there's a couple of really detailed videos on this subject, 300 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.279 and they kind of gave me some of the ideas. And as it 301 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:22.400 turns out, we're a multi lingual family. My daughter studies linguistics just recreationally. 302 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:27.240 She's just interested we discover the origin of language, how things evolve over 303 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:33.119 time. I've always been fascinated by the constarts of language. So we took 304 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:38.160 the general concept of Okay, so you want to ask Maleen question how precisely 305 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:41.480 you're going to do this. Now we've all seen the movie The Arrival, 306 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:48.160 which further expands in this concept of how do we get that elementary communication? 307 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.480 And so what I thought is, okay, well, what if we come 308 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:59.319 up with every conceivable means of communicating with a creature from another planet and we 309 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.039 start from will be the simplest and work to what will be the most complicated 310 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:08.440 means? Because it occurred to me there's a spectrum of possibility for communications, 311 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:14.559 right, and this is something I hadn't quite seen before. But my thought 312 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:18.720 is I go into this in the video where there's five or six kind of 313 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.640 means. The first with the absolute easiest is to lepathy. I mean just 314 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:27.400 direct brain to brain, that's it. And I take that from a few 315 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:32.559 different from a few different angles. You talk to experiencers, and you talk 316 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:37.640 to people that have have had close contact, you do see this consistent theme 317 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:44.799 that they could understand concepts that were being sent to them, that there was 318 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:49.799 some level of communication that they couldn't quite understand. Right, And then we 319 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:55.279 take a look at okay, well what about speech of some sort? Well, 320 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:59.480 all right, so they've had all this time to listen to radio broadcasts 321 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.359 and televis from Earth since the nineteen twenties and thirties, Right, there's all 322 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.000 sorta ofly if they just if they just watch Sesame Street, you know, 323 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.680 Sesame Street or Paw Patrol for long enough, they're going to get an idea. 324 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.559 But there are some technical problems with that if you think about it. 325 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:22.880 So what if they don't actually have the proper vocal courts to expel spoken language 326 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.119 in the same way we do, they might be able to pick up some 327 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.279 of this audibly and possibly not you know whether or not they can hear in 328 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.720 the same audible range as we can. Right, So then so let's say 329 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:40.839 they can communicate, okay, what language? You know, getting back to 330 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:45.480 my point that so much of our focus is all on Aliens landing in you 331 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:51.000 know, New York or London or sit It's all very Anglo centric. So 332 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:55.759 my thought is, so, why wouldn't they learn Mandarin, Chinese, Why 333 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.960 wouldn't they learn Spanish? Why wouldn't they learn some other language? So we 334 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.720 talked about some of the difficulties and advantages of other languages, you know that 335 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:08.119 we actually from everything I could see, it struck me that one of the 336 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:14.680 easiest languages for them to learn would be Spanish because there's just so much of 337 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:19.279 the language is properly pronounced, is it like each Almost all syllables and vowels 338 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:25.240 are actually enunciated when you speak. And I thought the most difficult would actually 339 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:29.720 be Arabic because of the guttural sound and like the glottal sound from the back 340 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.400 of the throat that you need to generate, right, So they also might 341 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.720 have difficulty with Dutch in the in the same aspect that kind of sound. 342 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:45.160 So you know, there's I'm talking about the physical difficulties and what languages of 343 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.160 ours that they could actually speak. So then let's say they can't speak any 344 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.960 of that. Okay, so now we talk about you know, music and 345 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.440 light, sound and other sorts of means to communicate. But now you're starting 346 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:02.599 to really break things down even if we talk sort of pictographically. You know, 347 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.039 one of the things I talk about in the video is, let's see 348 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:11.400 we show an alien a picture of a hammer. Okay, everyone's got one 349 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.359 in their house. Do we mean that this is a tool. Do we 350 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.319 mean that it's a weapon? Do we mean that it's an important religious symbol? 351 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.599 Almost every house, almost every garage on planet Earth has probably got a 352 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:27.880 hammer. So what's it for. There's a context problem, right, We 353 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.319 have to be able to get the right context across right. And I will 354 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:38.920 say that I was watching Arrival partly in preparation for today, and they covered 355 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:42.839 a little bit of how complicated it would be just for a basic sentence to 356 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.759 be broken down. And part of it was syntax, and part of it 357 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.559 was context and just things that we take for granted, like the word the 358 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:59.519 word us might mean something totally different to a different species, exactly exactly. 359 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.319 DJ's guys on to say, you know, I think Flemish would be very 360 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.880 valuable because when you think about it, they land in Belgium. There's a 361 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.240 lot of great breweries there run you know, these monasteries, and and I 362 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.240 think it would be of great value to them to be able to communicate and 363 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.039 get a barrel of beer that should you know, they beam up. So 364 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:26.839 I think, Kevin, Okay, then we'd have to deal with more alien 365 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:34.599 crashes and and then thenswell, Kevin, do you that could have been what 366 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:45.240 happened at Roswell with the two crashes. I think the waffles should be good 367 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.039 enough. Now let me say something. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna check 368 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.319 out now, I'm gonna leave this, leave you to dab Mckevin Scott. 369 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:59.200 Uh, you're fascinating. This is this is really really interesting. I I 370 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.759 I would love to to uh uh you know. I'm sure we're gonna have 371 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:04.559 you on again and we can start getting into I want dev to get into 372 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:10.880 the biology aspect because I'm trying to figure out if they want our biology, 373 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.920 why they want our biology, what can they not create and synthesize on their 374 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:21.880 own without getting human samples. Well with that, our next next episode is 375 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:26.400 focused on exoplanets and from the point of what do we know about exoplanets now 376 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.720 and how would that likely affect beings on that planet high gravity, low light, 377 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.319 whatever it may be. So that kind of addresses in the biology. 378 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.759 I wish you guys would take on these, you know, more intellectual topic 379 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:44.359 and I'm star hey. I want to say uh First, I want to 380 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.920 say thank you for your service to Canada, and I hope that you find 381 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:55.400 out find a way to uh help your your health and your lungs. I 382 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.799 might suggest whim Hof breathing. He's also from the Netherlands. If you haven't 383 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:04.039 heard to whim Hof with the ice bath thing. That guy, that guy 384 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.640 you know who he is? All Right, No, I must stay. 385 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:14.240 I leave you in the hands of two of our great Cabby's, our researcher 386 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:20.559 deb and our humorous antagonists who won't be antagonist tonight, Kevin, thank you 387 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:29.559 so very much. Thank you. It's a pleasure to meet John. Okay, 388 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:35.440 So I wanted to ask about some other things that you had covered in 389 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:40.839 your video as far as other options besides telepathy and the physical speech. What 390 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.880 are some other possibilities that you can think of. Well, what we did 391 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:51.720 is we took a look at how some other creatures communicate on Earth, and 392 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:58.200 some of them in terms of using like we talked about other creatures that have 393 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.400 form of what we would call speech, but it's just not speech as we 394 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.920 understand it, right, So we took a look at dolphins and whales, 395 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:14.279 killer whales, those sorts of things. I should say we also talked about 396 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:19.759 sign language with primates, but perhaps we'll come back to that after we took 397 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:27.119 a look at dolphins, and I guess one of the things is we can 398 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.079 see that a lot of the really intelligent marine mammals have forms of speech where 399 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:36.359 there's even regional dialects to it. The way that they communicate with their clicks 400 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.559 and their whistles and their sounds underwater. They can tell each other where they've 401 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:43.680 located food, they can warn each other danger, they can send different you 402 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.240 know, they can communicate in various different ways, and they're very social creatures. 403 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.920 You know, up here in the Pacific Northwest there's killer whales stay in 404 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:58.559 the same pods for life, and they're very close family units. And what 405 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.359 we found is when we if you take a killer well from here and you 406 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.400 put it on the East coast, they can't communicate. And that's caused a 407 00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.320 lot of stress in these animals when they've been brought to places like the sea 408 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.119 worlds of you know, large aquariums and such. So if you take an 409 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:20.719 orca from off the coast of Washington, state of British Columbia, and you 410 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:25.199 put it in a SeaWorld type facility in Florida, they can't communicate. It 411 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.559 might as well be Greek and Russian. There's just no way. They just 412 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.079 cannot understand each other saying. So that causes a lot of stress. So 413 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:38.039 we know that they've developed a form of communication that's based on a structure that 414 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:44.280 we just can't emulate. We followed dolphins and fall looked at their types of 415 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.880 communications for decades. We know that the US Navy and the Israeli Navy us 416 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.840 dolphins for military purposes. You know, they're they're very there can there's large 417 00:34:54.840 --> 00:35:00.480 amounts of intelligent communication. But we still can't ask a often how their day's 418 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.559 going. Right. Yes, we can, we can train, we can 419 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.119 understand, we can have some kind of an understanding of what we wish them 420 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.119 to do and what we will do if they do the thing we ask, 421 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.880 But we can't ask them, you know, So, how's the water temperature 422 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.000 today. You know what's going on? You know, how's the kids? 423 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:29.039 We can't ask, So you think there's any possibility that they'll eventually use AI 424 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.119 to break that down? Because it's it is. It is really interesting to 425 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:38.519 me. We get this impression that these extraterrestrial beings can come and they're capable 426 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:44.280 of communicating with us, but we can't even communicate with species on our own 427 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:50.400 planet. Well that's exactly so unless you have some sort of AI, machine 428 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.800 learning, some sort of neuralink type thing, I'm not sure how we'd otherwise 429 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:58.000 be able to accomplish it. We could be on the cusp of be able 430 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.119 to figure these things out. But you know, considering that it's creatures in 431 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.920 two totally different environments, that makes it more complicated. So when we do 432 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.679 sign language with with primates and gorillas and that sort of thing, well, 433 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:17.159 okay, we're both above ground, right, we're both somewhat genetically similar, 434 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.360 we both have you know, we have some similar vocal structures and whatnot. 435 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.320 The problem with communicating with with primates is although we can teach them sign language, 436 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.800 I keep coming back to the point that this is a very anthrocentric way 437 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:37.320 of communicating meaning that we are teaching them our concepts of language and our concepts 438 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.000 of speech and how to use our you know, tablets with colors and what 439 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:45.039 have you. You know, how exactly are you going to teach a dolphin 440 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.800 that? Right? We need to understand their concept We need to be we 441 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.199 need to be dolphin centric or orc accentric. If we're trying to talk to 442 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.480 that, we need to understand how do they want to communicate? Right, 443 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.159 So sort of put the ball back in their court. So, yeah, 444 00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.719 I think your point, AI is very good. I think that's probably would 445 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:07.079 be the solution, right. And I know there were other areas and I 446 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.599 want to get to them, but this, this is one of the questions 447 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.480 that I really couldn't wait to ask you. Okay, so I want to 448 00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:19.239 get it out there. When are you going to start studying the written work 449 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:24.760 that supposedly has come from UAPs, including the hieroglyphs and the ruins and like 450 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:30.960 things like that, including apparently some people think picturegraphs. I think is what 451 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.000 it picture glyphs, is that what they're called supposedly from UAP is the writing 452 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:42.840 aspect of the linguistics. Well, you know, we haven't gotten into an 453 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.199 awful lot of that. We did ask. You know, one of the 454 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.440 things we want to know is do you have a written language? Do you 455 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.039 have more than one language? Because one of the things we tend to do 456 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.480 and we're thinking of UAPs, is we think it's just one unified creature from 457 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.800 one planet. We'll hold on a minute. How do we know that there's 458 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:07.840 no multiple different UAP species, languages, dialects, factions, countries, religions, 459 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.599 you know, value systems, et cetera. You know a small example 460 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.400 of that as we look at the different excuse me, the different shapes of 461 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.880 UAP that we've seen. You know, you've got your tictak ufo, You've 462 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.519 got your delta or your pyramid, triangular type, you've got the cube type, 463 00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:29.239 you've got those those sort of amorphous tail looking things voting in the area 464 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.599 you've got. You know, there's different types. So is that from the 465 00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.880 same culture, the same group, the same language. Are those ships for 466 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:42.280 different purposes or are they from different plants? Right, So, when we're 467 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.719 talking about communicating and looking at their language, we need to think, well, 468 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.679 hold on a minute, would each one have a completely different written language 469 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:57.320 system? Do they use a written language? I think what I would look 470 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.039 for if I was examining these sorts of things is I would look for the 471 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:05.840 source, and I'd want to see the source as as close as possible, 472 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.800 you know, as close as we can put it to them, not to 473 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:14.719 us to them. So what I mean by this, An example that strikes 474 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.960 me is the police officer in the New Mexico Desert in the I think it's 475 00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.320 the early sixties, sixty two sixty three, that's pulled over a vehicle inside 476 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.559 of the road, sees this great, big ball of light called let's the 477 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:34.079 cargo, tells dispatch I'm going to investigate, goes over and sees this craft, 478 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.360 this egg shaped craft, and it's it's just above the ground, and 479 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.719 there's two creatures of some sort outside. No creatures go inside the craft. 480 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.599 It takes off, It hovers off the ground and then takes off at a 481 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.440 great ray speed. But the officer was able to describe these markings that they 482 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:58.719 sort of there's a couple of vertical arrows and a circle and a line. 483 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:05.039 Looking at those markings on the outside of the craft, so a little so 484 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.800 yeah, So when I'm looking at at that, what I would think is 485 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:16.760 that is what I would call sort of a best in class example of written 486 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.880 information, some sort of representation of a language or symbol, because you've got, 487 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.199 you know, credible witness and you actually have it right plaster on the 488 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:32.519 outside of the craft itself. There's absolutely no question what the origin of that 489 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:38.480 was. My concern with written languages, as we see otherwise is can we 490 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:45.199 be sure that it's not a human interpretation of something? I want to see 491 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.559 as close as we can get to source, which is tough. But I 492 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.880 think we're going to have more and more than in the future, and we're 493 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.599 seeing we're seeing examples of UAPs caught on video daily now. Yes, I 494 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.920 think more people are actually looking up. I think that's part of it. 495 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.559 I think that's why the numbers are going up. In part. I think 496 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.840 also there is a sense that, you know, some people have implied that 497 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.760 they want to be seen right now, that they're coming out more because they 498 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:17.519 want to be seen. So there's a sense that the reason we're hurrying disclosure 499 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.039 now is because it's not going to be our choice much longer. I've heard 500 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:29.599 that as well. So what I've noticed in doing some research on the written 501 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:36.000 language is that there's two types that I've noticed one that looks like ruins and 502 00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:40.559 then the other that looks like more of geometric shapes. So I'd be so 503 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.920 curious if you get a chance to go into that and maybe you might find 504 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.360 out something. And I don't know if there are people who are heavily researching 505 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.760 that, but it's really interesting that I see those two types and what comes 506 00:41:53.760 --> 00:42:00.159 with them. Interestingly enough, are two of the hypotheses the future and it's 507 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:05.320 the extraterrestrial. So I'm just like, what one of those is the future 508 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:10.199 human extra I'm very interesting. I was just talking my son about that just 509 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.320 the other day, you know, and I'd love to see some more research 510 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.320 and detail on this and try and put together a little bit about it. 511 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.119 Be interesting to look at the written communication on it. But we were talking 512 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.360 about that. I mean, you know, when you think of the distance 513 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:34.360 of space, if we take a look at the nearest known exoplanets the Trappist 514 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.639 System, okay, four light years from here. I believe I stand to 515 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.519 be corrected on the distance. But let's say for a minute that number is 516 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.760 accurate. There's an exoplanet four light years from here, Okay, so at 517 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.440 the speed of light, it would still take four earth years to get there, 518 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.599 and you know, four earth years light for earth years to get back. 519 00:42:53.079 --> 00:43:00.519 So if they're doing anything less than faster than the light travel, right, 520 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.320 or some other interdimensional travel, it can take decades and eons to get 521 00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.480 here. So the concept that these are future humans actually can make a lot 522 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.280 of sense when you think about it. They're already here, They're already on 523 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.920 this planet. It just happens to be in the future. And so before 524 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.000 people say, well, come on, there's no such thing as time travel, 525 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.119 you've watched too much doctor who is a kid? Which guilty as charged. 526 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:29.119 But let's talk for a minute about technological advancement. If we go back 527 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:34.440 three hundred years from now, okay, and we look at where where we 528 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.199 were suring the industrial revolution and steam engines and this sort of thing. No 529 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.599 one knew about computers, cell phones, internet, AI, you know, 530 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:47.559 traveling to Mars, you know, all these sorts of developments, lasers, 531 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.119 atomic bomb, none of it. Right, Okay, Now, let's go 532 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:58.159 three hundred years into our future technologies that we can't even conceive of yet. 533 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.440 So who's to say that three hundred years from now they haven't actually discovered time 534 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.800 travel? You know, it really throws me. Some people have said, 535 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.679 okay, here, listen, listen to this guys. Okay, some people 536 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:16.280 have said that there was a civilization on Mars, and they think that that 537 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:22.719 civilization may have come to Earth after some issues on Mars, you know, 538 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:28.000 who knows what. And then it occurs to me, it's funny because now 539 00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:32.960 we're here going to Mars. So if that is happening, it's like a 540 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.280 circle back and forth between Earth and Mars, right, because you can now 541 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.679 actually apply to go live on Mars. That is a fact. You can 542 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.760 now you won't come back right now, and maybe in three hundred years we'll 543 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:52.400 have that technology. Right. But then you also hear people say everything's happening 544 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:58.440 at once. The time concept is not what people think the past, the 545 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:05.960 present, everything is once, yes, right, So that's the concepts that 546 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.599 we're going to Mars, we may have come from Mars, and then everything's 547 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.760 happening at once kind of blends and it's like this is so weird and so 548 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:21.880 interesting. Well, you know, that's a fascinating concept because let's let's take 549 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:23.920 a look scientifically. What do we know about Mars? Right? We know 550 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:30.199 that there once was liquid water on the surface, right, we suspect there 551 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.320 was at least some sort of microbal or vegetative vegetative life. Otherwise, why 552 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:39.079 we was millions of dollars sending the curiosity rovers and other discoveries there? Why 553 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:45.159 are we doing all this trouble on Earth? I don't know. We Sorry, 554 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.599 it's hard to hear. We're spending so much time and effort looking for 555 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.719 life. So I think there's a reasonable it's a reasonable proposition that there may 556 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.679 well be evidence of life if there isn't still already. But you know, 557 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.599 we don't see any buildings and structures and what have you. And well, 558 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.760 one of the things that I've been looking at is what is our likely unfolding 559 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.559 of events in the future. From sort of an astronomical point of view, 560 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.880 right after so many million years, this is likely to happen, so many 561 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.960 tens of million years, this is likely to happen, so many billions years, 562 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:21.760 this is likely happen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, 563 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.079 et cetera. And one of the topics that you discuss is entropy, sort 564 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:29.960 of the time and offense A little hard to get the make sure I'm getting 565 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.920 the right definition here. The concept of the decay of everything, the progression 566 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:38.360 of time. They're saying that after a million years, there will not be 567 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.880 any evidence of footprints on the Moon, right, there will be no there 568 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.719 won't be the flag, there won't be the lunar rover, there won't be 569 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:51.280 anything that like from the original nineteen sixty nine landing on the Moon. After 570 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.360 one million years time, all evidence that that will have vanished, just through 571 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.960 the emotion of time and entropy. Okay, so how could we not say 572 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:05.199 that a million years ago there was not some sort of a civilization flourishing flourishing 573 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.519 on Mars. Must like you said, they came here, you know, 574 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.679 Are we the lifeboat? Are we the oasis? Are we the refuge? 575 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:19.920 Did they undergo a form of climate change that was irreversible, uncontainable and the 576 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.760 only way to survive is to flee to the next nearest planet, which would 577 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:30.400 be us. Right, it's right, certainly well within the realm of possibility, 578 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.679 especially because we're doing it right, Beso said, that's that's that's what 579 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.280 we're doing. He wants to leave and go somewhere else because it's worried about 580 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:43.199 the planet's health, which, frankly, our planet is actually still amazing. 581 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.360 We just need to take better care of it, you know, compared to 582 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:51.639 the other planets that we've seen, our planet is amazing. But it is 583 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.519 funny because everyone who doesn't believe this idea that you know, e T might 584 00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.960 want to come here forgets that what's this what we're doing, This is exactly 585 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:07.559 what we're doing. We literally have a helicopter on Mars. We're literally signing 586 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.639 up to move to Mars. So why wouldn't another species be interested in doing 587 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.760 the same thing. It's so weird to think that, Like some that's so 588 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:23.679 egotistical to think we wouldn't right. So, yeah, it's a fascinating thing 589 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.559 to consider, you know, where they could be coming from. I wish 590 00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.679 we had more answers for that, but unfortunately, you know, we're still 591 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.800 you know, waiting on that. I think that might not be something we 592 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.280 get to know in our lifetime. I think we might get to know a 593 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:45.639 little bit about occupants in our lifetime. I'm optimistic. But so when we 594 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.119 do find out, when we get this information that we're being visited, we 595 00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.320 need to prepare a little more. Right, So let's talk about another of 596 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.880 the areas that you touched. On that you didn't get to just quite yet, 597 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:05.559 which was the area of using basically vibration to communicate. Well, that's 598 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:12.679 that struck me as the most problematic forms of communication, chemical and vibration, 599 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.920 right, And like I what we were thinking of that was the kind of 600 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.000 communication you have was a spider in its web sort of using the vibration of 601 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.920 its environment to detect, you know, whether or not a fly has hit 602 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:32.000 the web, and you know, so it senses things in its environment primarily 603 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:37.480 through the vibration, through touch and whatnot. And that's sort of a way 604 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:42.280 that we really don't understand. We do vibrate our vocal cords to make sound 605 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.000 or expel air from the lyrics, right, but we don't. We can 606 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.519 sense certain things through touch. We can sense heat, we can sense pressure, 607 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.159 we can sense cold, we can sense a few different things. But 608 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.000 how on earth would we sense you know, please depart now from Mars at 609 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.639 an altitude three hundreds of me. You know, like, how would you 610 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:06.719 how would you communicate something complex through that? Means I have no idea. 611 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.559 That's where I think AI would come in. And the other thought along those 612 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:16.079 lines is chemical communication. And from that we took the example of ants in 613 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:22.199 an ant hill or bees in a beehive. So there's clear communication amongst those 614 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.760 creatures. You know, the ants taking their direction from the queen there. 615 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.800 They have certain jobs to do in their society, in their like I call 616 00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.679 it a society. In their society, there's certain jobs that are delegated. 617 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.159 There's you know, your warrior ants, and there's the ones that get they 618 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.159 get the food, and there's the queen, et cetera, et cetera. 619 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:45.360 You know, you have a delineation of tasks and there's a way to communicate 620 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:51.360 that through given certain chemical signals. Now I don't know if anyone's been able 621 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.440 to replicate that, although you know, there could be research. I'm sure 622 00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:57.280 there's a lot of field to study of that. And if someone out there 623 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.840 knows about it, do let me know, make it indentum to the video. 624 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:06.039 Then you know, bees and a beehive or you know somewhat similar concept. 625 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:10.719 They can alert for danger, they know how to food production and support 626 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.320 what the queen needs needs to do. So they have means of communication on 627 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:22.519 a chemical basis as well. We can sort of grossly manipulate them by for 628 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:27.400 example, beekeeper using smoke to get the bees to go to sleep so the 629 00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.239 beekeeper can retrieve the honey. But in the same token, we can't ask 630 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.679 the bees how their day's going, right, you know. That's one of 631 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.679 the things just I was thinking of enders game when you said that a lot 632 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.480 of people have pointed out their society may actually be more like a colony and 633 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.840 it's a system. We don't really think like that anymore, Like we did 634 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:52.360 have kings and queens quite a bit back in the day. But you know 635 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:59.760 this, this other society may be recognizing a different system like a colony and 636 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.000 might have a queen, you know, and it's just very different from how 637 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.840 we do things now, right. I mean, I should be careful because 638 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.599 they do have some kings and queens left on the planet, of course, 639 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.960 But but you know, it's like it's it's hard to imagine that this and 640 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:21.360 it's it's an exercise that people have to do sometimes. But imagine something that's 641 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:27.119 not even anything like what's on our planet, right, that's so hard for 642 00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.159 our brains to do. Just like we even just like thinking about being like 643 00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.039 in a colony. That's that's tough, right, thinking about how they interact 644 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.920 and communicate and then just something that's not even there's not even an example on 645 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:43.800 our planet, right you know. And then of course, one of the 646 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.559 concepts that that I've wondered about and I think we might come up with listen 647 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:59.440 in another video, is the idea of the value system. Right. Well, 648 00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.559 I've just wanted to thank you once again for coming and talking to me 649 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:07.239 today. We're going to go ahead and wrap it up. In respect of 650 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.119 your time, I would really like you to come back in the future and 651 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:15.519 tell me about your future projects. Could you please tell people again where to 652 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.519 find you and what you'll be working on in the near future. Sure, 653 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.840 well, thank you very much for the invite. I'm honored to be here, 654 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:24.679 and it's so nice to meet you all and talk about the subject. 655 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.159 And it's so nice to be able to talk to people that share this passion 656 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:37.039 and share this interest, and that's it's really working on all these videos has 657 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.039 helped me get through a very tough time in my life, and I'm glad 658 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.599 that I can do something that helps share this interest with other people. And 659 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:49.760 I thank you all. We're at the Ask an Alien project on YouTube and 660 00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:55.880 Alien Underscore ask on Twitter, and the next one we're working on episode for 661 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:02.679 the Exoplanet Connection, looking at the really relationship between known exoplanets and likely effects 662 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:10.800 on sociological and biological effects of extraterrestrial civilizations. You know, some examples of 663 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.800 how do you tell time on a planet that's tidally locked? If your planet 664 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.199 has ten times the gravity of Earth, how does that affect your How does 665 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.000 it affect your society? You know? How do how does vegetation grow on 666 00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:27.440 a planet the planet that's much hotter than ours? You know, these sorts 667 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.440 of things. We're going to look sort of a little more onto what we 668 00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:36.440 can extrapolate from what's known currently about exoplanets, and we also intend on producing 669 00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:42.280 further videos on these thoughts as we discover more with the James Web Space Telescope 670 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.320 and other forms of research. So we're looking One of the things that fascinating 671 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.800 and we're so excited about is the concept of, you know, where we 672 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.440 can look so far into our past with this new telescope, but what if 673 00:54:53.519 --> 00:55:00.280 we are aiming this telescope at the nearby exoplanets, what can what in tell 674 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.760 what can we learn from the from the closer planets to us, not just 675 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.920 the distant pass which course is interesting but I want to you know, when 676 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:13.360 we actually start aiming at you know, kepler plants, we start aiming the 677 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.119 trap a system, we start aiming at where we already know to look, 678 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.079 but we can look in greater detail than we could with Hubble, Right, 679 00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:22.960 what can we glean from that? How can we learn and what can we 680 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:30.119 extrapolate about likely cultures and some of the issues they might encounter. Right now, 681 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:31.960 I just want to say a lot of people don't think about the fact 682 00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.920 that some of these civilizations could have been on well, I should say in 683 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.960 the universe, not on the universe, but in the universe, on an 684 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:47.239 exoplanet, right, for goodness knows millions of years, right, or billions 685 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.559 because the whole whole universe is thirteen billion years. So if they if they 686 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:58.039 had to travel from an exoplanet to get here, it's possible they had time. 687 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.559 It's possibly they had time. But one of the things that you know, 688 00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:07.199 we're excited about is the idea, if we meet one Extratresia species, 689 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:13.199 can they tell us about one or five or a one hundred other species that 690 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.000 they know about. If we meet one, that is the gateway to every 691 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:23.519 other species. That species has encountered you could have knowledge explosion just from meeting 692 00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:29.360 one species. Right, that's something we're excited about, I know. And 693 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:32.599 they actually touched on that in contact they said that, remember in the contact 694 00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:40.960 like she that she Oh boy, I think we just lost Blaire. Yes, 695 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.960 oh, Flair, you're still there. Great? Okay, Yes, 696 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:52.679 I would say in contact they touched on they ended up in a hub and 697 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:59.639 they had a whole bunch of different people apparently coming to that hub. So 698 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:05.719 that a great point, Flair. Before we sign off, can you please 699 00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.000 let people know where we can find you, and again, thank you so 700 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:19.360 much for coming and co hosting today. Kevin, Oh may we don't have 701 00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:32.199 Yeah, Jackie's having some technical difficulties. Unfortunately, there we go. We'll 702 00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:37.280 see you. Know what, It's funny because even humans are having problems with 703 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:45.800 communication right now, it's ironic. Great Okay, So, Flair, thank 704 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.960 you again for co hosting, and I want to thank you again at ask 705 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:55.360 an Alien project, right, we need to get into that. It's so 706 00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:00.599 interesting. Scott, thank you so much for coming and talking to me and 707 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:07.480 the player and also the DJ. The Caves are really interested in your project 708 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:13.239 and we look forward to seeing you again. Wonderful at my pleasure and thank 709 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:25.880 you so much, all the best, Thank you for joining me. This 710 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:32.880 is a study of UAPs. You can find me on LinkedIn, Twitter, 711 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:45.119 Facebook, or on the UFO connector www dot ufoconnector dot com and of course 712 00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:51.360 as a member of Calling All bns on YouTube. Until next time, take care,