High Raccoons. Hey party people, Welcome to the Reality TV Cringe Podcast,
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are trash connoisseur's darlings. Ma'am. Well, we are meeting in the middle
of this week, a little later in the week because well we don't really
have a show to review since we decided not to do our rewinds for Sister
Wives because we've got the new seasons start in yeah, on the twentieth.
Yeah, so might as well not start a new season season four, right
of Sister Wives rewind? What's the point? We might as well just do
it after this season's over. Yea offseason rewind. Yeah, but we still
wanted to do a pod, and so what we thought we would do Raccoons
is just go over some of the current Sister Wives and plathifyl gossip. Yeah,
there's not a lot of plathiful stuff, but there's that Ethan thing we
got to talk about. Yeah, we do, got to talk about it,
and some John and eight plus Kates yes, because I finally watched the
Vice documentary. Bit it was good and we're going to talk about it,
but I just wanted more too. I just wanted a bit more. And
I also thought that this was episodic, like it was going to be more
than one episode. Me too, but it's not. It's like a series.
But they only had one episode fea during John and Kate right stuff.
So I'm like, Okay, could have been better. It could have been
more and I would have loved to hear more from Colin and Hannah me too,
although we got some juicy stuff on that and again we will talk about
it, but um, yeah, I was glad I watched it. Yeah,
yeah, it was pretty lit. It was pretty lit. And it's
interesting that Kate had no comment to Vice, had nothing to say, I
know, for being such a narcass bitch. I'm like, wouldn't you want
to like protect your image a little bit because this makes you look bad?
Yeah? Like really bad. Although there's still some people on Instagram that are
simping for Kate and I don't get it. I don't either, but yeah,
after this, I'm much more compassionate towards John. I used to think
he was just a big door and he is though, yeah, but I
mean compared to Kate, Like I think that he actually loved his children and
still does and still does. But we'll talk about that maybe toward the end
of the pod. Before we do anything, though, Beatrice, we have
to remind everybody that we are in a propro yeah offense. We say all
kinds of crazy whack shit for real, and so if that is something you
don't like, first of all, I don't know how you found your way
here. And if you're like into word policing the Saints or dumpster nope,
we say whatever. Although I have to tell you, Beatrice, what for
our Whole Island recap on Monday, I had to go in there and edit
the shit out of We were pretty bad. I was especially talking about former
sexual fucking shit I did ye also talking about those hoes on Temptation Island.
We were really bad. I just feel like on an ethical spiritual level,
like maybe we need to calm down a little. No, yeah, I
mean, but that's why you edit some of ours. Like I think I
edited ten minutes of the most inflammatory bullshit out of that episode and it was
still really fucking inflammatory. It was kind of funny because you texted me late
at night and you were like, I had to edit this part out,
this part out, I'm sorry, and I was like, no, it's
okay. I kind of figured, right, I probably would have that out,
but you know, hey, so, I mean, we are out
of control, but like, we're still not unreasonable raccoons. You guys are
still getting kind of a softer version of what we really are like. But
I do have to say on Patreon we're a little less. We're not really
censored here, but to the degree that we would edit stuff out, We're
really not going to be doing that on Patreon. It's only been a couple
of months. We're starting our video content this month. We're gonna be obviously
doing the recaps or the reviews of Sister Wives. We're gonna be videoing our
pods and yeah, so Patreon is going to be a little bit raw and
uncensored. So if you like that kind of stuff, you should totally check
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oh my god, we have a boy in the dumpster. I'm getting sexually
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what about our Instagram? Go follow us there too? At reality TV?
Cringe. I mean, we're just gaining all the followers. Girl, Now,
I'm excited. I love it. We're getting famous. So I don't
know about all that, but I just I like finding our people and with
like all of the energy and the vibes in the ether right now around sister
wives, it's like we're all collectively trying to find one another. It's magnetic.
Week. Are so excited about the whole shit that's about to go down
on the twenty of the August year of Our Lord. This season's gonna be
fire, dude. I think it actually is going to be pretty good because
I think that these wives, at least two of them, okay, Christine
and Janelle, look like they're ready to be a little bit more honest.
Yeah. Yeah, especially Janelle when she's telling Cody to buck off. Yeah,
oh I love it. Well, why don't we start there? Because
there was a second trailer that was released this week. You posted it up
on our Instagram, So if y'all haven't seen it, go to Reality tv
Grunt on Instagram you can watch it. But why don't we play it now?
Just the audio for the raccoon and then you and I can chit chat
afterwards. All right, here it is. I left Cody because I could
see he had favorites. I've heard him refer to ask his friends. You
have cheated me out of my family. You're not pushing me out the door.
That's an exaggeration, not a lot. I think you're manipulating. No
no, no, no, no no no no no. You stay and
talk, you shut it off. I can't. This season of Sister Wives
August twentye ten on TLC and stream on Max Girl Girl, So, I
mean, there wasn't a lot new, but there was a couple of tidbits
here that were fire, yes, starting with Christine again calling Cody out for
having a favorite wife chef's kiss so perfect. Do you think she's sting the
money? Do you think she's going to go all in and like talk about
it. That's what I'm scared about is because even last season, when she
was leaving and she was going through so much, and Robin and her family
were completely inappropriate when they all sat by, like there was so much going
on, she still didn't give us a lot of information. At the Tell
All, she got a little upset, yeah, but it still felt like
she was like shielding and guarding the family and Janelle as well. Janelle was
a little bit more open in last year's tell All, you know, kind
of calling Robin counselor Robin right this or that. But that's what I'm worried
about. I'm worried about them not going all the way. God. Well,
I mean, I feel like with Christine, if the rumors we had
talked about a couple weeks ago about her being seen out in public talking shit
about Cody and Janelle was there and all that, if that's true, then
maybe because this season I've read that Christine is going to be in Utah,
They're going to be filming her in Utah where everyone else is in fucking Flagstaff,
maybe she'll let loose a little bit and like I mean that by brown
standards, like they're not going to be going off like Cody's a piece of
shit, he's got Robin Liddle hair, he's got a small dick. Like,
they're not going to be saying all of that. That's what we'll be
doing, saying what we'll be inferring, But like I feel like maybe she'll
be dropping some shit because I mean that's kind of big, right saying it.
I felt like he had favorites, right, she has said that already.
But like to your point, there was that scene from the first trailer
where Garrison and Janelle and Christine and I forget who else was there, but
they were like, Robin can have him, you know, we don't need
a father figure anymore. So it feels like they're getting together as that faction
of the family, and they're being more open about their feelings. Right,
that's the shit I want to see. Please stop guarding and shielding. Yeah.
The reason they might continue to do so is because as they tell the
truth about their lives, they're going to tip their hand that they've been lying
this entire time. And Christine has been lying. Yeah, and La has
been so fucking loyal to Cody, which makes this whole thing wild. Yeah,
that's happening. With totally. But she's been so loyal, she's been
towing that fucking line, and so for her to come out now and say
that was all a lie. He's been neglecting us for years. He hasn't
seen my kids for years. It's like, well, then, why the
fuck were you lying to us for what twelve years? Right? Why were
you putting on this facade? But I mean, to play Devil's advocate,
like, this is a family we're talking about, right, So maybe they
don't want to air all of their dirty laundry out on TV for seventeen years.
I mean, I know they're on film, but it's because they're broke.
They need the money, they want the check. Yeah, So like
they're doing this for a reason. And it's kind of like with John Nate
plus Kate, We're like a lot of things were going on behind the scenes
that we didn't see, but like a lot of it was kind of leaking
out on TV and that's why people are attracted to the show. So,
I mean, I could see a world where why they would be hiding for
Cody and why they would be trying to make it work because you know,
it's for the betterment of the family. Right, I guess. But like
juxtapose that with Plath Phil, where you have season four, we've got Kim
who's divorcing Barry, She's leaving the house in the homestead. You've got Ethan
and Olivia kind of going through their bullshit having fights on camera. It's there
seems to be just a higher level of transparency, which I think makes it
a more compelling show, especially when your whole audience knows when you're lying.
That's such a good point. Everybody knows that they've been lying for season after
season after season. Like, if you really want to redeem this franchise and
potentially create offshoots like David and Christine or Janelle and Mary and all the shit
that they're doing, or kids shows and stuff like that, tell the truth
right now, that's true. That's a great point. That would be way
more interesting if I'm seeing Christine pop off, if I'm seeing Janelle pop off,
not just with Cody like in that scene, but to the camera telling
the truth. Oh being I'm in Yes, that's true. Do you think
they're going to have a better tell all this season two? No? I
have no, Oh my god. If it's so, I can't with Sukiana.
I really got drug though after that tell all, like you went,
I went to her instagram. You went to her instagram. People were just
going crazy because you didn't again, no truth telling. You didn't ask any
of the questions that we needed the answers to. Yeah, bring an actual
interviewer like I'm Carlos King would be awesome, Tamarin Hall would be awesome.
Yeah. And I think she did a tell all with them many many years
ago, which I think was removed, and I want to say it was
reality. T Squad made a video probably within the last week talking about this
tell all that isn't available anymore, where I think certain things were exposed and
us Christine was humiliated in some way. I got to go back and watch
that video. Oh my god. But like we need an inter off.
You were who's willing to go deeper? Yeah, then Shamalama Dingdong well and
not let Cody fucking dictate all the shots and dictate what questions can and cannot
be answered, Like you're not the head of the show anymo. But it
really kind of felt like they had given him that power, like they had
a real power to be separated from everybody else so you wouldn't have to be
held accountable. He wouldn't even talk about Robin at all. Yeah, and
he wouldn't answer questions that he didn't like. And so if that this fucking
cannot fly, No, it can't. And there should be like more than
three parts of a tell all, or if you're going to have three parts
of a tell all, they need to be like a full ass hour is
that of forty minutes because you're talking about the breakup of this entire fucking family.
You're talking about Mary, Janelle, and Christine all leaving, and they're
all leaving for the same reason because Cody don't want to touch them, no
mo right, Cody don't love them, no mo I want to hear all
of that shit. Yeah, They're better be a good fucking tell all there.
Let this be a good fucking season, please, because that's the way
they're marketing this, Like these trailers are are so dynamic, bombastic and dramalicious.
They're almost promising a different kind of season. And I'm telling you,
DLC, if you want to continue with this franchise or with offshoots, you've
got to start fucking telling the truth. And you've got to start throwing Cody
under the bus, which they were doing honestly, they were doing some of
that totally in season seventeen, but it needs to be way more transparent and
way more overt. Yeah, I need to see him get dragged. Okay,
let's go a little deeper into this second trailer. Okay, we see
Janelle and Cody on the couch in her dormitory apartment, and he's saying something
about her keeping him from the family. He said, you've been cheating me
away from my family, or something like, Okay, I just loved Can
we talk about that under what theory has Janelle kept Cody away from her children?
That's a joke. How is he going to come up with? What
is he going to say, hey, Beatrice, like you are, he
is talking out of his fucking ass. If he's really trying to say that
Janelle has been keeping him away from his family, why because she didn't force
the kids to social distance and stay at home in quarantine in order to see
you, even though you weren't doing that, and even though you and Robin
were the only two out of the entire family that got fucking COVID from your
nanny, and you guys aren't even fucking vaccinated. You made the rest of
the family get vaccinated. You made the rest of the family do all these
stupid COVID rules that you didn't even fucking participate in. You were going to
weddings and dancing with a bunch of people, wouldn't even go to Isabel's surgery.
Come on, dude, right, So I'm just wondering what kind of
mental fucking gymnastics he's going to be going through to try and blame Janelle,
who, I say, once again, has been probably the most down and
loyal, totally wife that he has had, yep. And so I'm just
like, I don't even know how you get there, dude, other than
Gabe and Garrison, who have pretty much told him. They had that altercation
out on Coyote Pass where they're confronting him about COVID and all the protocols,
and afterwards he called them narcissists. Maybe it's Gabin Garrison and her not being
able to bring her children to heal. I'm just like, dude, the
audacity Janelle has been paying the family bills for twenty something freaking years, where
because you can't fucking work, Robin can't work, and she's got all that
Victoria's secret det and she's got a mic mansion. Well, fucking Janelle has
been begging for a goddamn casita or just something to live in. She had
to buy a fucking RV just so she had a place to live in.
Because you are spending all of your money on Robin, right, And the
reason he was so mad about that was because he wants that money to pay
off Coyote Pass. Yeah. I do have to just maybe correct that a
little bit, because I do think we've been saying a couple of things.
First and foremost, that Janelle was the primary breadwinner. I'm really not so
sure about that. I think she was a bookkeeper when they were in Utah,
probably down twenty five to thirty thousand dollars a year. Maybe, I
don't think that's going to be supporting the entire family. I think we had
Christine on food stamps. I think we probably had Mary on food stamps.
You know, they're rigging the fucking sus true, declaring bankruptcy, they're doing
all of these other things. So while Janelle did like to work and didn't
have a job, I'm really not sure how much money she brought into it.
I don't know how successful she was as a real estate agent in Vegas.
Maybe she was very successful. I would love to hear from a raccoon
who might know the answer to that, please, But I think she gets
more credit actually than she might be due. And with regard to the Victorious
Secret ship, because you and I have heard and it's just all over the
internet, the fucking bill for that was like fifty thousand dollars or ridiculate that
in actuality, somebody did a forensic investigation into her bills. I think her
Victorious Secret charges amounted to about a thousand dollars. Oh that's it. Yeah,
so it wasn't that much. Maybe her total debt was up around fifty
or seventy I'm not sure. I'm speaking out of my ass, but the
Victorious Secret aspect of it was not as large as so many of us have
been saying that you're waiting. That would have been funnier, it would have
been better. It would have been better girl. Okay, back to the
trailers. So Cody says that horse shit, and then Janelle says something like,
now you're trying to push me out of the family, Yeah, which
is crazy. And this is where he gets mad. He's like, no,
no, no, no, no, I'm not putting up with that,
and then she says, and you're manipulating me. And then that's when
he gets up and leaves, and she's like, so you're going to walk
out and leave and that's when she says, fuck you, right, So
she's calling it. And so maybe what he's actually doing is try to trying
to reframe the whole situation that Janelle has been conspiring behind his back with a
click of kids or anti Cody. And I also noticed there's a Christmas tree
behind her yea, So maybe she has decided at this point that she's going
to spend her holiday with her kids with Christine somewhere else that Cody can't go.
And so maybe that's why he's saying, you're pushing me out of this
family or you're keeping me away from my family, and she's like, no,
I'm calling you on this bullshit because now you're trying to frame me as
the bad guy. This is just another manipulation that you and Robin aren't doing.
Oh and to your point, I wonder if he's getting I wonder if
he's trying to like cause a split in the family where like nobody fucking talks
to Christine. Because last season he was talking about how like the other wives,
like if they're going to be friends with Christine, if they're going to
talk to her whatever, like that's going to cause an issue with him because
of loyalty and respect and all that. I wonder if he's trying to cause
that rift, because if that's true, if Janelle's like, well, I'm
going to spend Christmas with Christine and her kids because my kids would love to
hang out with her kids, and we're just going to do that because my
kids consider Christine to be their mother exactly. And if Robin and Cody are
still doing their stupid social distancing, no Christmases whatever, then yeah, of
course Janelle is going to do that. So maybe he's pissed off because of
that, Like maybe he's like, well, no, you can't go and
hang out with Christine. Yeah, because I think at the end of season
seventeen, we have Thanksgiving up in the air, right, and Janelle's like,
yeah, I'm not going to be here for Thanksgiving, and so I
think that this is the next month after that. So we're still in fucking
twenty twenty one, and I'm wondering, are we going to catch up to
at least the end of twenty twenty two. I'm like, how much how
much time are we going to cover in this season? Because so much has
happened, right, And maybe that's why the family is also secretive too,
because they're filming two years behind, so they can't give away everything. But
I don't know, like it'll be weird to see what happens in this season
because we know Janelle and Mary have left two so they're gone. So are
we going to see Mary in his divorce? Like I'm be going to see
the confrontation of that. I mean, we've seen, like in the first
trailer, we see some discussion around that, and in this trailer, Mary
says something like, well, I've heard him refer to us as friend And
I was thinking, when you say us the Ogs, do you mean the
wives or does she mean him or like her and Cody like us together.
I wonder because I kind of took it like the og wives, Yeah,
we're just friends. Yeah, but maybe she's talking about her and Cody,
right, I don't get Cody, Like what incentivizes these women to want to
be in relationship with you right, Like with Janelle, it would have probably
been really easy. You don't have to fuck her. You just have to
love her kids exactly. You just have to take care of her boys and
not ostracize them, and not fight with her kids and make her choose between
you and her dogs and you and her kids. But he can't even do
that. He doesn't fucking visit them, he doesn't take care of them.
She's the one supporting them, and he can't even do that. He can't
even show up. He can't do it. And she would have been the
easiest wife I think to keep around, oh totally, because she didn't want
I don't think she wanted to leave Code. I don't think she wanted to
bring up the family like I think she knew Christine was like a law's cause,
like there was nothing she could do or say to make Christine stay.
And I don't think she would want Christine to do that because she cares about
Christine. And same with Mary, Like if Mary wanted to leave, Janelle
probably would have been like, it's fine, but like, just be around
my family. But no, you call your kids narcissists and don't see them
for months, nine months, don't even go and see Christine's kids or go
to the surgeries or anything. It's like, you can't even do the bare
fucking minimum. He can't, and he's using the same script. It looks
like he's using the same script on Janelle that he used on Christine. That's
just so wild to me because I'm like, how do you not see how
you are perceived? I don't get it. I mean unless you're truly and
I know we throw around the word narcissist, but if you're a malignant narcissist,
then you lack the ability to introspect, to see yourself and have that
kind of self awareness. So maybe you see herself being an absolute fucking douchebag
barbarian on television and you think you're winning it life because you have a fucking
mental disorder. Yeah, and then you manipulate other people like McKelty to say,
oh, it's just bad editing, they just make me look bad on
TV. No, it's this is literally how you are. I can't with
her. She also said something you had just mentioned about Cody having an issue
with his wives being friends with Christine. She actually defended him on this point
on her blocks around, like, yeah, she was like, well,
why would he want, you know, his other wives to hang out with
the wife that he's no longer with. I'm like, McKelty, that's your
mom. Oh my god, I saw which I can't with her. I
literally cannot with her and Tony Pedron what is wrong with her? I don't
know, but yeah, she defended him for a feeling that way. I
don't get that. I don't get how you can't look at this objectively and
be like, yeah, my dad is wrong here, like my mom may
have not handled the situation perfectly, whatever, if you want to fault her,
but like, how can you look at this situation and even defend Cody
and why? Like one little minute, wait, how can you defend him?
I don't know. And I won't subscribe to her patron because I just
can't take her. No, I can't take her and I can't take her
husband. But if there are any raccoons out there that subscribe to her patreon,
my question for you, and you can DM Beatrice on the Instagram Reality
TV cringe, My question for you is, does mckeltie ever criticize Cody and
Robin? Like does she does she ever have like a counterbalance or a counterpoint
on some of these issues, like yeah, my mom, because remember in
season seventeen when she forces Christine to have the meeting to say goodbye, but
right before that, she's like, okay, so what are we doing?
Do we need to go over there? Do we need to take the toilet
seats or something like that? Do you remember what she said? Do we
need to go fuck shit up? Essentially? Right? Like, where's that
sentiment is it? Does she say anything like that on Patreon? I'm curious
because she's not saying anything like that in terms of publicly. I'm not reading
anything like that on at it. She just seems to be hyping up Cody
and Robin. Just bizarre. I don't get it. And it's because of
our friendship with Robin, I think because she I think she believes Robin as
like I came in gab in hand and I just love everybody. I'm just
a good person. How can you watch the show McKelty, I don't know
and not have them more. Maybe she doesn't mind, Maybe she doesn't watch
the show. I think now they're doing recaps because Gwen is making so much
money on Patreon that now to McKelty are also doing that I don't know,
girl, but I know probably picking and choosing episodes. Maybe maybe or maybe
they're doing it just to make their dad look good. Maybe they are,
like I don't know, maybe Cody is like straight up manipulating McKelty. And
I mean really like she's the only kid that's coming out defending Cody. I
feel like nobody else's no nobody else, not even Gwen. I mean,
Gwen is not saying anything bad necessarily about Cody and Robin, but like she's
not, but she's critical, and she's critical on the download. You right,
but she's critical, but like you don't even hear Robin's kids, like
her three original children coming out and talking aboutably fucking clamped down can't say anything,
which is wild. The last thing I wanted to just run by you
is David Woolley, Like I'm I can't wait to get a sense of this
guy, yeah, because I want to know whether he can go toe to
toe with Cody. And you know, obviously he was at Gwen's wedding.
He's there with Christine. Cody looked really fucking pressed, and so did Robin.
They did not look happy to be there. I'm wondering if it's because
David is there. I'm wondering what his personality is like, for example,
some of my husband's energy. Now you know my husband to be a very
kind person because he likes you, Yes, But if you didn't know my
husband and he didn't like you, you can kind of perceive what kind of
energy he would put off in a room. And it's noticeable, right,
Oh yeah, it's tough. And so I'm just wondering, like if David
brings that kind of confident, masculine he doesn't look like it to me,
but maybe I'm wrong. Well, but he's like, I mean, he's
got like nine kids, he was a he's a widower, right, So
like maybe he is. And I think he's successful. He's a professional person,
he's a contractors. He's obviously making Christine happy. Yeah, he's making
Christine. Yeah. So I'm just wondering what he's going to bring to this.
I'm wondering if he's going to be talking to camera. Oh my god,
I hope it's Christine and David on the couch, or if it's just
David on the couch giving his fucking opinion, Like I'm here for that,
I just die. I hope I hope, I hope t TLC understands when
you look at these two trailers, they know exactly what we want. This
is what we're fucking living for. Please so give it to hi. Please
don't just give us all the highlights in these fucking trailers of the whole entire
season. But now I'm thinking, are they even going to have David in
here? If we're filming in late twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two,
when did Christine announced that they were She announced like this year that they
were together, right, and then now they're engaged. They but yeah,
but they were together in twenty twenty two, so maybe we'll see like their
courtship. Maybe maybe. And there are also rumors that there might be a
David and Christine wedding special, which I would totally watch every episode of just
because I know it will kill Cody and Robin and that check goes just to
Christine and David. They don't get any portion of it. Yes, well,
so maybe they will be honest. Maybe they're out of their contracts or
something with Cody, like maybe they sign their own contract. Sure, I
can say whatever. Other shit I want to know is like, how did
you disentangle your finances. Right, Christine just picked up and left. She's
like, Yolo, you can have this fucking property for time dollars buy,
I'll take my house and I'm gone. I don't think she's under any obligation
to Cody and his dumb LLC with Robin. Yeah. So, and also
there was, I mean months and months ago, there was some pictures I
think on Christine's ig of her at her then house with David and there was
a film crew there. So day it's definitely going to be in this season.
Oh oh my god, give it to me. I'm just wondering what
his energy is. I mean, I just don't know, Like was Cody
and Timid dated. I personally can't really see it with David, but that's
because I haven't met his energy yet, right, Maybe he's got big dick
energy. So I'm saying maybe he maybe he's a papa, Maybe he's a
tough dude. I'm ready for a girl. Christine's got a tat tat tat
with David. Yeah, God, you know they're fucking I hope so,
oh my god, I hope it. How old is he? Though?
I mean, let me get a sip here how old is he? He's
probably get in his fifties. Fifties. Yeah, it's older than that a
little bit. She's what fifty one. I don't think he's that much older.
I don't probably fifty six, fifty seven. He just kind of looks
I'm not going to say elderly, but I just don't know how much he's
fucking and laying it down, you know what I mean? But I hope
so for her. Dude, see alist too. You know what I'm saying.
I'm in the medical field, and you'd be supriime reading people's medical records
all time. Seventy eighty year old men still fucking how still fuck are they
doing the viagral? Some of them aren't though? How can that be?
I literally read a dude today seventies. You know, I'm not giving any
patient patient. Don't come here for me with the hippa. I know the
hippa. But he's like in his seventies and he's still fucking dude, what
is he putting that on his paperwork? For? Sexually? You tell the
urologists, okay, because you're prostate, probably they're just fucking hot, okay,
Papa. Oh yeah, so I'm hoping for that with Christine, that
she's having a wonderful sex life because all she has ever known is Cody Brown.
And I'm sorry with his fucking pencil dick, your pencil getting what I'm
just not confident his fucking ringlets and his sexual prowess whatsoever. So now she's
got a fucking titty tat. Yes, I think she's getting her back blown
out. I hope she's getting that sensual seduction baby. Yes, it's on
our vision board, and it's on our vision board for Mary as well.
Ye want that for Mary, deeply, truly, madly and deeply yes,
And we want that for Janelle because I don't think Janelle gets it. I
really, I know she has nine thousand children with they've obviously had sex,
But again I say, I don't think he's a sexual dynamo. And to
our conversation last Monday, when we inappropriately speculated about Cody's sexual orientation, like
if there is a world where maybe he's a bisexual person, it might prefer
men, but he's doing with the Mormon thing that he's got to do right,
Like maybe she just hasn't been with a man who is truly loved up
on her Volopucu was a body. Yeah. I just loved all of her
curves and everything, knew the places to rub. Yes, when you know
she likes to camp, you know she totally cowboy a cowboy. Oh no,
oh my god, he's getting his nails done. He's not a fucking
cowboy. She needs a cowboy. What does Robin see it? And then
why is money? She the favorite? What? She was the youngest,
she was the thinnest. Oh, they made millions on this show, I
mean. And so she hitched her wagon to Cody Brown and the Brown family,
pretending that she wanted to be a part of the family and wanted to
integrate. And she did. And I think she loved Cody. I think
they fell in love. I do, Yeah, But um, I don't
know what's going to keep her there once these three bitches are gone and the
family's gone, and maybe TLC and the cameras are gone and following the other
people. Yeah, because I can't see a world where we're just gonna have
a fucking spinoff of just Cody and Robin nobody. We're going to have to
do it because it's her job and we take it seriously. But I don't
want to watch that shit. I would not much prefer to follow the other
family members, Sam's mckeltey and Tony yeah for real, and maybe Mary.
I mean, I don't want to see Mary on a spinoff if she's just
going to be the same old fake Instagram fucking monets LM bullshit, Like,
just be honest, talk about your feelings. I would love to do her
day. Yeah she's Cody when what she's nineteen years old or something lost.
I'm sure her Mormon virginity and she believed their celestial planet terrible and now she
doesn't get to go to the celestial planet, so you might as well be
fucking and get somebody who rides a Harley David's motorcycle. That's all I see
for just speaking it into existence. I keep drying. I don't know why.
I don't know what about Mary. No, she looks like she's a
biker chick, like she'd be in the bitch seat, right, yeah,
saying like she looked good in like a little leather, like a like god.
But back to Janelle, Ye, Janelle, if she had her a
cowboy who was out on the range and they were tall, tap like one
of those fucking bel sucking boots and everything, size fourteen boots or something like
that big old day my husband's big old boots and like a fucking stetson.
Yes, God, like rip on yellow Stone, Janelle, your life would
be changed. Oh and you're such a good woman. And she is so
awes No, no, she's made her mistakes. Well, nobody's perfect.
But I love Jane. I mean we cap for her a lot. Yeah,
as the kids style, Yeah, we cap for her. But I
mean she was not the best parent insofar as she put up with all of
this horse shright and allowed her children to be deeply hurt by a fucking asshole
of a person. She could have protected her family, she could have made
different choices, but I think that it was a matter of faith. Right,
she wanted to do the right thing. But I just need to I
just need her to get out of the box and experience life a little differently.
I just think it would blow her mind and her box. All right,
Well, God, that whole thing was the trailer on the trailer.
I'm just so excited, y'all. I'm very excited, and I've got shit
to say all the way up until August twentieth year of her Lord, one
wary three, Yes, ma'am, Please Lord, let that be released on
this side day so you and I can first and foremost watch that shit and
film ourselves and fucking reactions, and second of all pod right away and get
with these raccoons. It better And they said it's streaming on Max, so
I'm like that better not inhibit. Oh no, you fucking releasing that shit
on Discovery Plus on Sunday. Everybody's been pissed about Discovery. I swear to
God, I'm gonna I'll be mad too. It might actually delay our fucking
um recaps, not our recaps, but I know we need to contact.
But where do you trust our celestial planetary father that he's going to pull through
and everything's going to work out for our benefit and divine order? All right?
Okay, do you want to get into some hot guss? Yeah?
Okay, then bitch, let's get into the hot gussy. It's not that
hot. There are just a few things, though, that I do want
to talk with you about and just to kind of get your feeling on all
right, first and foremost or with an article, And let me just say
a lot of these articles that I get in my Google alerts are dumb.
They're just added. They really don't add a whole lot of information. Sometimes
they're based on some reditor's speculation about that victorious secret bill and it's not based
in reality. But we don't care. Yeah, we're still going to talk.
Hello. So the first article is entitled Robin Brown refuses to tell kids
that their father is dying. This is from TV Showsace dot com. And
so you know, David Jessup is Robin's first husband. I think he now
goes by Preston, and I want to say, several months ago it came
out that he has some form of leukemia. Yeah, it's leukemia, and
it's not good. Yeah, and really there's a go fund me for it.
I think that Backwood's Barbie on YouTube talks a bit about this, and
I know that she posts the go fund me quite a lot. But yeah,
he's sick and it's really sad. He's remarried and I think he's got
children with his new wife, but it doesn't really look that good. That
would be so fucked up if Robin was actually not telling your kids about that.
So let me read this to you and then we can talk about whether
she's that evil okay that she would do that all right. As fans of
teal see Sister Wives know, Robin Brown had her three oldest children with her
ex husband, David Preston Jessup. According to a YouTuber who intensely follows several
different reality TV shows, including Sister Wives, named Backwoods Barbie, the biological
father of Robin Brown's oldest children is dying of cancer. The YouTuber alleges that
Robin Brown is adamantly refusing to allow the children she had with David to be
made aware of the fact that their biological father is dying. Robin Brown has
reportedly been aware of the fact that David Preston Jessup has been dying of cancer.
How many times do you have to say dying Jesus Christ? For over
a year now She's She, however, allegedly refused to tell her oldest three
children what was going on. According to Backwoods Barbie, Robin argued that her
children were currently going to school and that is where their focus needed to be.
She claimed that she didn't want them distracted from their schoolwork by what was
going on with her ex husband. What the fuck. If that's really the
case, then she's an evil awful, horrible person. Can that actually be
true? That would be crazy? Well, but I mean, at what
point do we place responsibility on these adult children? Dayton? Brianna is Brianna
an adult. I think she graduated with Savannah, so I think she's eighteen
years old, and then Aurora is going to college. So like, at
what point do we say this is up to you? Like it's out of
the ether. It's like we've talked about it, we know about it,
So I would imagine they know about it too. If you want to,
you can reach out to your father, make a connection and see what's going
on. I guess unless you have a fucking manipulative ass mom who's like telling
you lies about your dad, Like who knows what she's telling these kids?
And I mean, I'm just speaking from personal experience, Like I have a
cousin who my uncle is her dad. When my uncle and his wife got
divorced, his wife took my cousin and moved up to some podunct funking town
in Washington State, changed her numbers, changed the address, changed my cousin's
name, so that way she couldn't contact my uncle. My uncle couldn't contact
her, and was like that for years until she finally, as an adult
in her twenties now, finally decided to reach out because she got away from
her mom and away from her stepdad. But it took that whole time,
and it took being away from her mom and living on her own. She
moved out a state away from her crazy ass mom to get to be able
to contact my uncle. So, I mean, it could be a situation
like that. And when you look at Robin on the show, like she
doesn't like when cameras go into the house. She doesn't want her kids playing
with Truly. Yeah, there's a definite separation between her family and everyone else,
despite how in early season she's always talking about, you know, how
King Solomon is going to be uniting the family and how that's her fondest desire
and she's going to be a surrogate from Mary, Like that never really happened,
and she doesn't seem at all interested in putting her family on the altar
of TV and exposing her family to whatever's going on. But what we do
see of Robin with her kids is she's a fucking helicopter mom. Yep,
totally. We see her own kids having panic attacks crying, supersensitive, just
like their moms. So I can imagine a world where she's absolutely keeping them
inside, feeding them information, maybe keeping them in a state of fear.
And I can also see a world where she's telling these kids that their father
was an abusive piece of shit. And I'm not saying that he wasn't.
I don't know, Yeah, but I don't trust her. She is not
a faithful narrator. I don't trust that either. And I mean, regardless
of what their relationships were like with their father, I'm like, I feel
like you should still at least tell them because they don't have to contact them,
Like, if they know he's dying or whatever, they don't have to
contact them. If they had such a terrible relationship with them, that's on
them. But I feel like, as a parent, as the responsible party,
you should still be like, hey, your biological father is passing away,
Yes, Like what the fuck? Yeah? Like I don't know,
dude, Like I have a child from a previous marriage, and you know,
it didn't really work out where we could co parent. I always wanted
to, but he didn't want to co parent, and he essentially kind of
dropped off the face of the earth. And irrespective of my judgment of him
as a person. Because of that, right, I always encouraged my daughter
to stay in contact with him, to visit him, to give him a
shot, give him a chance. I always advocated for him when I really
didn't need to do that. Yeah, my kid would tell you that I
did that. Right, That's just the right thing to do as a parent.
I mean, if he was an abusive asshole my ex husband, which
he wasn't, but if he was an absolute piece of shit or dangerous,
then obviously I wouldn't be out here advocating. But like, you gotta be
able to create a space or a bridge for your kids to love the other
parent, right, And I can see Robin manipulating them out of that totally,
because even if their marriage was so terrible, her Davis or whatever,
if he's remarried and he has other kids, like, maybe there's a chance
he's changed, or maybe he's grown up a little bit, Like maybe he's
not an abusive person to this family, Like I don't know, Like,
why don't you have that ability to forgive? I guess, give or just
be like it doesn't matter. It was the past, right, we were
young, Right, But some of his family members have spoken out and said
he was not abusive. In fact, it was the other way around,
Like she was a fucking terror. So wow, who knows what's true?
I don't know, but like we see Robin Brown on our television and we
ain't trust in all that. All right, Next little bit of hot goss,
which is just kind of a cute thing that we should talk about.
Article reads Sister Wives star Mary Brown follows narcissistic abuse healing coach who helps people
heal from toxic relationships on TikTok in the wake of her split from polygamous husband
Cody Brown. This is from the Daily Mail. Yes, queen, we
don't actually have to read the article. That's just essentially it. She is
now following this coach who deals with narcissistic abuse. She only follows like seventy
people. Yeah, she doesn't follow a lot of people, so it's kind
of easy to see who she's tracking and who she's following who. Well,
I love that, like, go on your healing journey, Mary, because
you were married to a narcissist. Like, I think I'm not a doctor,
I'm not diagnosing anybody, but I just feel like Cody is such an
arc. Yeah, Yeah, such a fucking narc dude. Yeah, in
his displays for attention even as a teenager that we hear from his former school
friends and stuff like, he's just he's way out there. But here's the
thing, Like Mary, I think it's fifty one or fifty two years old,
and she had a hand in this fucking charade, just like everybody else
did, in allowing Cody to manipulate this family and hurt these kids and to
lie to all of America. I kind of feel like Mary and the other
wives to have a responsibility, especially if he's an actual narc and she thinks
so knows, so maybe there's a diagnosis out there, or maybe she just
really believes. So I feel like you have a responsibility to call that shit
out and undo the damage that you're lie have done, because maybe there's polygamists
out there who are staying in relationships with fucking narcissistic asshole husbands who just want
to fuck and go to their celestial kingdom in in the sky, and you
had a hand in women staying in that situation pretending that it was so awesome
and your family was so wholesome, Like, what are you gonna do now
at fifty one years old, after you're leaving this marriage, to maybe change
the story that you've written on Sister Wives. Yeah, and I mean acknowledge
that you may have enabled some of his behavior and treat me and treating not
only you, but like the rest of the family, Like you can't just
sit there and watch that go bidly buy like Mary in some of these seasons
telling Christine, oh, just deal with it, right, just fucking look
at the mountain, like well, even with the catfish situation, which was
pretty fucking blatant. Yeah, Like she focused totally on the fact that she
was deceived that she was talking to a man when she was really talking to
a woman. She never admitted on the show that that was emotional cheating for
sure, right, that she was out of integrity and that she did the
wrong thing. She just focused on how she was victimized by somebody who was
deceptive. Of course, Like she doesn't naturally take a lot of responsibility or
accountability for her fucking bad behavior, and she hasn't addressed that, I know
of some of the claims that are floating around out there from these kids about
her being abusive to them exactly That's such a great point with Mary. Regarding
Mary, because I feel like Christine maybe has some ability to acknowledge her fault
to maybe Janelle a little bit. But Mary is a little Yeah, she's
always been kind of iffy, but I think it's because she got married so
fucking young and she's just been in this controlling, manipulative relationship. I'm not
making excuses for her, but I'm just saying, like she's been in this
toxic bullshit for the majority of her life, and not to mention like the
religious cone of it as well, which can be super traumatizing, that she
might not even be aware of the fact that she's she's like given her whole
fucking life to this. Yeah, for what now she's getting locked out of
her planet? I don't think. I don't think in her face. Somebody
correct me. Ask Ethel, like, if her husband divorces her, does
she get to go to the planet, does she to a separate plan?
Does she go to a planet with fucking estranged wives? Which would be a
better planet to be quite obvious, to God's planet? But like, what
happens to the wife who is disenfranchised from the polygamus family? Right? Do
they That's probably why Janelle stayed in it as long as she did, because
she was trying to be really faithful to polygamy and or of the aub Mormonism.
Well, and maybe Mary doesn't believe in it anymore like Christine, Like
maybe they're following suit with Christine. Maybe Janelle doesn't believe in it anymore.
Maybe they just became eld surprising. That would be crazy. I want to
know. That's why I need these people to tell the truth. And this
is where I'm saying again, you actually have a responsibility to do so follow
the people who bought your bullshit for twelve season, seventeen seasons now eighteen seasons,
so true, years, so true. All right, moving on,
now we have some welcome to Plathville goss. Yeah, so this article reads
welcome to Plathvill's Ethan Plath shares message of regret amid Olivia Plath divorce rumors.
This is from yahoo dot com and the article reads welcome to plathfill start Ethan
Plath shared a message I think it was on Instagram, touching on regrets amid
rumors that he split from his wife, Olivia Plath. Quote, it has
been my experience in life that few things are heavier to bear than regret.
Ethan twenty five wrote via Instagram alongside a carousel of photos that tagged him outside
a local coffee shop in Minnesota on Saturday, July twenty ninth. Underneath the
photo, TLC viewers were quick to question his relationship status with Olivia twenty five,
asking if they were still together. One comment read, I don't see
a ring. Another added, you should take Olivia out of your profile photo
at the top of the page, as she took you out of hers.
I wish you both well. While the Welcome to Plathful stars have been the
subject of divorce rumors, they seemingly shut down those rumors that they're headed for
separation when they were spotted attending a dinner party together. Olivia took to her
Instagram stories on July twentieth to share a group photo that included her, Ethan,
and a group of friends enjoying an outdoor dinner. The Teal star didn't
reveal details about the occasion and only captioned the post with a heart hands emoj
MM. So what do we think about that? What is your fake psychic
intuition? Tell you? I bet they're divorced, and I bet they're just
doing pr to not because if we remember that Olivia's sister had came out out
a while something yeah on the Internet and had said that Ethan and Olivia have
been divorced, and then Olivia clapped back and was like, no, we're
not. But I saw that Instagram post from Ethan and I shared it to
our ig story again at Reality TV Creneko follow Us plot, but I shared
it to our Instagram story, and I thought it was interesting because Ethan and
all of those photos that he shared of himself, he was still wearing his
wedding ring. He was he was, Okay, Olivia doesn't wear her wedding
ring. And all of her photos that she's been posted on Instagram, she's
been in Europe, she's been naked in Ireland. Yeah, she went to
a fucking wedding in the Grand Tetons or whatever in Idaho. I don't know,
I don't care, but she wasn't wearing a wedding ring in any of
those photos. She doesn't have any photos of him on her Instagram right,
And then since he tagged that in Minnesota, I'm like, Okay, maybe
you're a divorce Maybe he's holding on because he's loves her. I don't know
why. Yeah, I don't know why. I either get well, she's
beautiful and she's his first love. It's like a baby duckling imprints on the
duck mama and follows them around everywhere. It's like, your heart is imprinted
on your first love, especially if you marry them, especially if it's coupled
with religious fucking trauma, true family problems that he is not over yet doesn't
know how to deal with, and to the extent that she helped him to
get out of that world, Like now she's gone, Like where is he?
Just fucking working on cars? Right and pretending not to feel things?
Well? And it's interesting. I like, so your caption's about regret and
like what do you regret? Yeah, what do you do? You regret
your marriage or do you regret how you acted? I think he regrets how
he acted. I think he regrets some of the things that he did.
I think he regrets not being emotionally available to Olivia, who, by the
way, as a fucking psychic vampire. Yeah. I think he regrets not
trying harder, doing better. I think, and I'm not sure how much
of that is misplaced, right. I could tell you and remind everybody that
I got really fucking annoyed at him season four because he's such an emotional cripple
and he doesn't do the work to learn how to express himself in a healthy
way. He just fucking gets mad and tomato faced, and he doesn't do
anything constructive with it, and he's fucking getting cars and hiding it from his
wife. You know, it's a symbol in their relationship, is working on
cars of his neglect of her. So yeah, I mean, and so
because it's a symbol, you got to talk to her about that shit like
he's and he didn't, and he would get mad at her for having a
reaction to his fuck shit. At the same time, of course, Olivia
is toxic af She sucks. She's a piece of fucking shit. She was
trying to drive a wedge between all of the kids and Kim and Barry.
And that's true too. Both of those things are true. So I think
he has some regrets, But I wonder how much responsibility he's taking on himself.
And I would bet you Beatrice, she ain't taken any responsibility, Oh
not at all. That's what I'm like, I'm wondering how season five is
going to be with them, because it's got to show, it's got to
show their relationship problems. I don't know if it'll show the divorce. I
don't know if they want that public. Because she also did comment on his
Instagram post. She didn't say anything, she just had a fucking fire emoji
on there. And I think it's again. I think it's just all pr
to act like they're still together, because like they're still connected somehow, maybe
or maybe they're just separated again. I don't fucking know. I just want
them to be done with each other because I think Ethan will be healthier.
I think Olivia's going to go somewhere. Wellsphy, she's a same She's got
her fucking photography business. She's doing fine on her own. She's fucking yeah
she is. She's doing an Instagram white girl influence her bullshit. Okay,
but like it's not the same money as you get after four seasons on TLC.
The money as you negotiate what we're with Kate Goslin, they were making
like twenty five thousand dollars an episode or yeah, they were, I mean,
and I don't know how much the Browns are making, but like they're
making some good money, yeah, I mean I plus it's fame. She's
going to fade away into irrelevancy as soon as she's off our television screen,
which is I think appropriate. I don't think she's gonna want to go anywhere,
so I think she's going to try and stay fucking connect, whether it's
to Mariah, who I think is seeing through her bullshit, yeah, or
whether it's keeping Ethan on the hook because he's an emotionally stunted person. That's
just unfortunate for Ethan, because get therapy, I mean, get therapy,
Get divorce her ass and be alone for a while and grow up on your
own, and then you can have a healthy relationship with somebody who gets you,
gets how you deal with things, and can be healthy for you and
call you out on your bullshit in a nice way so that way you actually
get it. Like, he just needs to be with a healthy fucking partner.
I'm not excusing Ethan and his bullshit. Obviously, he's a grown man.
You can take accountability for your shit, and you need to be able
to have that wherewithal to be like, yeah, I need therapy, my
family's fucked up. My mom fucked me up. I need therapy and he's
not doing that. But also, Olivia fucking sucks. Yeah, I think
she could be a narcissist yahnestly. Yeah, so this this season is also
going to be awesome. I think they are going to show this relationship.
And remember how we left it last time, when we were fucking in Jamaica,
r and um Mica and Mariah had had enough of fucking Olivia and then
we got home and for Ethan's birthday, she took fucking Nathaniel or whatever her
brother's Frankenstein whatever his name is, Bunding left separately than the family, like
so dramalicious, Like we left off in a very dramatic place. Yeah,
so I cannot wait for this season as well. Look, when we've got
Sister Wives and Plathy running concurrently, we're just gonna be spazzing the entire week.
Oh my god, We're gonna be having so much fun. Yes,
these are the best shows we cover, I think, you know, for
me, I love that, I love them. I love them. Temptasion
Island is hard, girl, Becau because those people are so fucking dumb.
I mean, the Browns. I mean, yeah, but I mean,
if it's not the intelligence, yo over there. But there's just there's dimensionality
to these relationships. Temptation Island, we got none of that. Oh my
god, no brain cells? What's no brain cells? Just a lot of
bumping and grinding baby and titties. So these shows are this is what I'm
looking for, ya, why I'm looking the layers. Listen, you don't
know when you're twenty five years old, Ethan Plath that this is actually a
good thing, right. You think you're losing everything in life is never going
to be the same or good again. You're very, very young. In
ten years, you are going to be amazed at how much has changed in
your life. And maybe you have a new wife, maybe you have kids.
You're going to look back on Olivia and see her as we see her
like she's fucking toxic. You don't need that shit in your life. Maybe
Olivia grows too, maybe she becomes a better person. I was a train
wreck when I was twenty five. I was fucking out of control one twenty
five, yes, ma'am girl. So I mean, I'm just gonna give
a little bit of gen X grace to these people. Not to Olivia.
I don't care about her. You don't have to so many people like her.
I know, I don't fucking get it. I wasn't Reddit and I
was looking at the Welcome to Plathivill reddit and everyone is like in love with
Olivia and if you say anything, you get credit, you get banned,
dude. But there's also Plathiville snark, which is a different subreddit where you
can say shit about Olivia. But then there's somebody on a campaign against Olivia
on that one, and all they do is post about her. So it's
just like, what the fuck. I don't get it. I don't get
it. Crazy. It's a toxic fan base and that's what we love get
all Right. Last thing we wanted to discuss in this episode, and we're
not going to go super in depth because we're gonna talk about it in this
month's Raccoon Kiki on Patreon, which, by the way, if you're not
a patron, you ought to be, y ought to be go to patreon
dot com slash reality TV cringe. Yes, but we wanted to talk about
the Vice documentary on John and Kate plus eight, so I find we watched
it. Yeah, I know, you watched it quite a while ago.
What are some of your main takeaways about that show. I feel really bad
for Colin, Yeah, because he's obviously the scapegoat child for Kate. I
can have empathy for John. Although in this Vice documentary, who's talking about
like how Kate took advantage of the kids with filming and stuff, and I'm
like, you're doing that right now? Yeah, and you were there,
right, weren't you there the entire time? You were also the adult.
But I did like that John was owning up to some of his fuck ups
with regards to their divorce and everything. I'm like, Okay, that's cool.
Like I'm glad that you're grown up enough I guess to talk about it.
But I wish Kate was involved in this documentary somehow. Well, she
would just be lying though, I mean, I guess she'd just be covering
for her abuse, which Colin called out. He called it by name,
he said adhasive and he didn't elaborate, So we don't know if that's physical
abuse, if that's emotional abuse, verbal abuse, but it's at the hand
of Kate. And when he finally started to talk about the abuse to teachers,
Yeah, and mandated reporters. She caught wind of it, and that's
when she sent him away to the institution based on Colin. So that made
me like sick in my stomach. Yeah, when he said that, I'm
like, WHOA, that's fucked up. And he's gone for a year and
a half, almost two years. John had to spend one million dollars to
get him extricated from the fucking place. I mean, I'm one million dollars.
And he even says it is way easier to get admitted to an institution
than it is to get out of an institution. I believe it, dude.
And Colin had to sneak a letter that he had to write in crayon,
Yeah, to his dad, to his Kate never told him where Colin
was. How can that be? Well, because she had full custody of
all the fucking kids. She had legal custody. Yeah, but like he
still had some kind of custody, didn't he know? In this Vice documentary
it sounded like she had he had none. Well, but I mean there's
different types of custody. Like one parent might have physical custody, meaning the
kids live with that parent, but they both share joint custody or they both
share legal custody. So I'm just wondering what the total custody picture was,
because I don't think there's any reason John would not have any fucking custody,
and he was going to their school and he was visiting them at lunchtimes.
That's the only time he'd be able to see all the kids together. So
it's not like he couldn't see the kids. Huh. So she was just
keeping the kids away from him then, I don't know, like that was
not clear to me. Yeah, what was happening with the custody at all.
It feels like in this whole Vice documentary they were trying to like fit
everything they could into one episode because they didn't have the money or I don't
know that Vice didn't want to give them more airtime than that. But I
wish I want them to come out with more ship. Oh yeah, I
mean I wanted so much more from John. I think John had so much
more to say it, and maybe he did say it and it was just
edited down. Yeah maybe. And Colin and Hannah, and what I thought
was super solid was Hannah's like the moment I found out that my brother had
been in an institution. I bounced, I left my mother, and I
didn't talk to her. Now now they're starting to talk to each other again
after a couple of years. But Hannah's like, how the fuck can you
do that to our brother? And nobody none of the kids knew where he
was, none of us. He just stopped talking about him. She never
told them where Colin was. And she even said that Colin was treated differently
in the house, like he would eat separately from the rest of the kid,
he couldn't eat at the same table, he couldn't go out and play
with the other siblings, Like what the fuck, dude, And even on
camera when they were showing some of the shots from when Colin must have been
and I don't know Rennert, like eight nine ten, he's like sitting away.
Yeah, he's looking away, he's not participating, he's not interacting because
he didn't want to be on the cameras anymore, right, And so as
soon as he started to do that, She's like, I have no use
for you. I just I'm like, what goes on in Kate's head to
just a by treating one kid like that, like singling them out, Because
even in her bullshit narcissistic ass statement that she made on Instagram after this Vice
documentary came out. She only bashed Colin. She didn't even mention Hannah,
which I thought was really weird. I'm like, Hannah's also corroborating what Colin
is, saying that you treated him differently, you abused him essentially, and
you locked him up in a fucking institution for two years without any contact to
the rest of the family. She's corroborating that. But yet you're only saying
that Colin is the one fabricating reality. And also Maddie, who is Kate's
little mini me, right, is Colin a racist, a transphobe, a
homophobic, all of the things that we say in the Year of Our Lord
twenty twenty three to get somebody canceled and unpersoned and invisible so that we don't
have to listen to them. Oh my god, what you're a racist.
We're not going to listen to anything you have. This is what they're trying
to do. Totally. I am not saying that didn't do anything inappropriate.
We wouldn't really know that, no, but it just seems really fucking convenient
that we never saw that and then when you see Colin actually talking on camera,
he's composed. Yeah, he's well spoken. He's actually charitable towards his
mother. He hopes that he can have a relationship. He says, I
think she has a good heart. Yeah, Like he's being very mature about
this whole situation, even though his mom has treated him like shit. And
when she released that statement on Instagram, he was gone at boot camp.
He doesn't even know. He would not have known that, and he's not
going to know that until he's out. So he hasn't responded because he can't
respond. He's away right now in the Marines. And again, I just
want to say one more time, the military doesn't tend to accept you if
you have an extensive, extensive history of mental illness, if you're fucking acting
out, if you're wilding out, if you're crazy, they don't want you.
Typically maybe the Army does, but typically they don't. Was certainly not
the Marines. And again, Colin was in the ROTC, he's in military
programs. I just can't fucking see it. And then you see him on
camera in this documentary and again he's composed, right, he seems kind I
mean, for what he has been through. I mean, he seems like
I'm just like, Wow, I can't believe you're this compassionate and again charitable
to your mom I know, I don't get it. And to your other
siblings who aren't talking to you. So Maddie Kara don't talk to him.
I find that to be fucking despicable. And his other siblings, who must
be eighteen right around nineteen, don't speak to him, but like they're still
in the fog. They don't have enough life experience yet to realize what the
fuck is happening. I'm hoping that they will come around and reach out to
their brother. God, I really hope. So. The last experience that
they've had with him was when he's like thirteen years old, before he's come
into to an institution. They don't even know who he is, No,
they don't, They have no idea. They just know what Kate has told
them. And of course, Kate being a fucking nurse, I'm sure she
told those psychiatrists exactly what they needed to hear at the institution to institutionalize him.
He's abusive, he's violent, he has crazy behavior, he can't control
his moods. Send him away by the time John gets to him at his
second institution because he finds out where he is, or like, how does
that happen where he's transferred from one institution to another one in Pittsburgh. I
think Kate moved him because he found out, right, So even he's subpoenaing
and he's going to court and he's asking for the information, so she has
him moved. By the time John finally locates him and talks to the doctors
at the second institution, he asks for a diagnosis and the doctor's like,
well, we don't have one. We're in the process of trying to figure
that out. Wow, So there's no fucking diagnosis. And John said,
I didn't even recognize him. He didn't look like my son. And there's
a picture of him. He must have been fourteen fifteen, Like his face
looked swollen, and John's like, he was on so many medications for what
that's Why is he being medicated, Britney spears fucking trips for real? Why
is he being medicated without a diagnosis? This is fucking criminality. That's fucked
up, girl. I want to tell all with Glin. I want him
to spill all the fucking beans. I want to hear more ship from fucking
John. I want to hear about like the rest of their divorce, Like
why Kate moved to fucking North Carolina, Like was she purposely keeping all of
the kids away from him? Probably? Probably? Like I just want to
hear more about this fucking family. And I'm like, where's the culpability for
TLC? Right, Like, of course John and Kate both signed away the
rights of the children and it does rest with the parents. They're the ones
that have legal authority to do this. But like, at what point is
TLC responsible for really fucking exploiting these children? Right? And this actionable in
any way? Can the kids come back around and fucking sue TLC. These
kids should be able to fucking sue their parents if you ask me, totally,
totally, and they should be able to sue TLC for filming Why are
you filming me naked as a three year old on the fucking toilet and yeah,
yeah, me and my poop, taking my pictures first poop in the
potty with me and my fucking poop, And I mean, what the fuck
TLC? Oh, my god, it's wild, so wild, it's wild.
And so if you're a patron. You know that we are covering John
and Kate Plusate, and I think we're in season two right now, and
I think there are what five seasons of John and Kate plus Yeah, and
then we go over to Kate plus, So we're committed to continuing to following.
I might need a break from her after season too. Honestly, maybe
we could just throw in some Gypsy sisters, which is even more talk,
just like a little bit of a break, because she's she's fucking terrible,
dude, she's awful, She's eve. I know it's surprised Millet doesn't surprise
me. But you know what I didn't know was that when she was pregnant
with her sex tuplets, she actually reached out to like local papers and journalists,
yeah, to ask them to cover her family. Interesting. Yeah,
so she from the very beginning with planting the seeing the spotlight. Yeah,
total narcissistic behavior, I guess. But I mean, like, I don't
know, we'll get into it on the Keiki. We'll talk about it more
on the Kiki. Yeah, there are several things that I kind of want
to go over, but yeah, I thought it was good. And raccoons
if you guys haven't watched it. I think it's on Hulu, I'm not
sure, but on Vice okay, but I've been sending people the links on
Instagram. So if you want it, go on to reality TV cringe on
Instagram and I will DMU the link to watch it for free. Yeah.
Yeah. And there were no commercials, which is awesome, and I was
enlightened. I wanted more and I would like to tell all and I would
like a book. I mean, but I mean, isn't that always the
case? To me? I want to eat the dress, But I honestly
feel like, as just as a person, I feel bad, dude,
for me, Hannah, for Colin, for the rest of those kids,
even for Maddie. She's been indoctrinated by this narcissist, totally fucking culty narcissist,
and I just I want them to have a nice life and be happy.
And Colin deserves that. He was in a fucking car wrec late twenty
twenty two, like a really bad one, and his mom didn't even reach
out, and none of his siblings did. He could have died. What
the fuck that's so messed up. I feel bad for him. At least
he's got his dad. Yeah, at least he has Hannah. Yeah man,
poor kid. Yeah. Well that's all the goss and information that we
have for this episode. Yeah, but it was fun just talking about this
ship because I could live for it in a breathe girl. Just as a
reminder, we will be back on Monday slash Tuesday, depending on whether you're
a patron. We are still covering whole island, although we are fucking irreverent
about it. We are not like doing a forensic exploration of people's vaginas anymore.
We're just doing broad strokes and getting super crazy and drunk yeah um,
and having fun. And then we'll be back next week, I don't know,
Wednesday or Thursday, Friday, to maybe do a little bit more gossip
because after that girl, we've got ninety day Beyonce the last resort. Are
we going to watch that dumpster fire? Yeah, bitch, we said we
would. Did you see Angela Deem got in a fucking argument or just like
a fight with somebody at some cocktail party like yesterday? Did somebody drag her
ass? She looked so bad? What do you mean, Oh my god,
is somebody drag her as? No, she didn't like drag. She
was dragging other people's ass. But like, Angela just looks so gross,
dude, like she literally, so are you trying to back out? I'm
trying to understand what the fuck is going on. I'm just like starts in
August fourteenth. Girl, I'm gearing up for the track. Listen, we'll
watch it, Okay. I'm just so begrudge Angela because Angela is just the
word. You don't have to talk about her. I came into the void.
I might talk about her. Well, yeah, she is terrible.
I might have to mention it. We are in a dumpster, after all.
I was saying on the into waves that Mikel's not going to be on
there. Yeah, I think she's going to be. It's just she's gonna
be, That's what I thought, because they didn't feature, like I didn't
see him. Yeah, but I think she's just going to be in the
resort with everybody else causing fucking trouble. And I know it is so bad,
and I know it is really wrong, but I'm here for it.
I mean, if she could drag big ed honey, oh my god,
please imagine if she targeted the right people. I mean, I wouldn't be
mad at it be a dress that would be really great. So I mean
that's August fourteenth, and then right after that girl Sister six days later is
Sister Wives. I'm counting down the days, bitch. Yes, So we'll
be back on Monday. We'll be back next week to talk about bullshit,
and then we are getting back into all the trash that's fit to eat.
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