WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:15.279 High Raccoons. Hey party people, Welcome to the Reality TV Cringe Podcast, 2 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:19.559 where we serview all the trash that is fit to eat. Baby, Yes, 3 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.879 honey, we're just rolling around in this dumpster. Look trash, all 4 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:28.160 the trash eating trashy serving trash. Oh yeah, getting fat off. We 5 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:33.359 are trash connoisseur's darlings. Ma'am. Well, we are meeting in the middle 6 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:38.560 of this week, a little later in the week because well we don't really 7 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:43.240 have a show to review since we decided not to do our rewinds for Sister 8 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:48.000 Wives because we've got the new seasons start in yeah, on the twentieth. 9 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:52.200 Yeah, so might as well not start a new season season four, right 10 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.439 of Sister Wives rewind? What's the point? We might as well just do 11 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.920 it after this season's over. Yea offseason rewind. Yeah, but we still 12 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.079 wanted to do a pod, and so what we thought we would do Raccoons 13 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.680 is just go over some of the current Sister Wives and plathifyl gossip. Yeah, 14 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.319 there's not a lot of plathiful stuff, but there's that Ethan thing we 15 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:12.239 got to talk about. Yeah, we do, got to talk about it, 16 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:15.799 and some John and eight plus Kates yes, because I finally watched the 17 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:23.079 Vice documentary. Bit it was good and we're going to talk about it, 18 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.560 but I just wanted more too. I just wanted a bit more. And 19 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:30.599 I also thought that this was episodic, like it was going to be more 20 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.680 than one episode. Me too, but it's not. It's like a series. 21 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.439 But they only had one episode fea during John and Kate right stuff. 22 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:41.319 So I'm like, Okay, could have been better. It could have been 23 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:44.879 more and I would have loved to hear more from Colin and Hannah me too, 24 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:48.120 although we got some juicy stuff on that and again we will talk about 25 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.040 it, but um, yeah, I was glad I watched it. Yeah, 26 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:53.760 yeah, it was pretty lit. It was pretty lit. And it's 27 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:59.359 interesting that Kate had no comment to Vice, had nothing to say, I 28 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.319 know, for being such a narcass bitch. I'm like, wouldn't you want 29 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:06.640 to like protect your image a little bit because this makes you look bad? 30 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.960 Yeah? Like really bad. Although there's still some people on Instagram that are 31 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:14.560 simping for Kate and I don't get it. I don't either, but yeah, 32 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.280 after this, I'm much more compassionate towards John. I used to think 33 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:22.360 he was just a big door and he is though, yeah, but I 34 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:25.400 mean compared to Kate, Like I think that he actually loved his children and 35 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.159 still does and still does. But we'll talk about that maybe toward the end 36 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.199 of the pod. Before we do anything, though, Beatrice, we have 37 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:37.319 to remind everybody that we are in a propro yeah offense. We say all 38 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:42.000 kinds of crazy whack shit for real, and so if that is something you 39 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.400 don't like, first of all, I don't know how you found your way 40 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:50.280 here. And if you're like into word policing the Saints or dumpster nope, 41 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.439 we say whatever. Although I have to tell you, Beatrice, what for 42 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:59.000 our Whole Island recap on Monday, I had to go in there and edit 43 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.919 the shit out of We were pretty bad. I was especially talking about former 44 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:09.159 sexual fucking shit I did ye also talking about those hoes on Temptation Island. 45 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:14.719 We were really bad. I just feel like on an ethical spiritual level, 46 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.280 like maybe we need to calm down a little. No, yeah, I 47 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.759 mean, but that's why you edit some of ours. Like I think I 48 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.240 edited ten minutes of the most inflammatory bullshit out of that episode and it was 49 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.840 still really fucking inflammatory. It was kind of funny because you texted me late 50 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.960 at night and you were like, I had to edit this part out, 51 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.280 this part out, I'm sorry, and I was like, no, it's 52 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:36.000 okay. I kind of figured, right, I probably would have that out, 53 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.439 but you know, hey, so, I mean, we are out 54 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:44.439 of control, but like, we're still not unreasonable raccoons. You guys are 55 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:47.240 still getting kind of a softer version of what we really are like. But 56 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.840 I do have to say on Patreon we're a little less. We're not really 57 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:55.520 censored here, but to the degree that we would edit stuff out, We're 58 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.560 really not going to be doing that on Patreon. It's only been a couple 59 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:05.120 of months. We're starting our video content this month. We're gonna be obviously 60 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:11.840 doing the recaps or the reviews of Sister Wives. We're gonna be videoing our 61 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.159 pods and yeah, so Patreon is going to be a little bit raw and 62 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.319 uncensored. So if you like that kind of stuff, you should totally check 63 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.639 us out. Yeah, Patreon dot com slash reality TV cringe. It's only 64 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:26.000 five dollars a month right now, girl right for the VP dome sto not 65 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:30.680 just girls Honey Week on boys like two Boys. I think somebody wrote in 66 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.839 like a boy wrote in a question for our raccoon k and I'm like, 67 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:38.600 oh my god, we have a boy in the dumpster. I'm getting sexually 68 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:45.519 around. I don't know who you are getting downstairs, not me, because 69 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:50.759 she's a big she loves all the women in isdamster limitary is something. Um 70 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:55.199 what about our Instagram? Go follow us there too? At reality TV? 71 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.319 Cringe. I mean, we're just gaining all the followers. Girl, Now, 72 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.079 I'm excited. I love it. We're getting famous. So I don't 73 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:06.519 know about all that, but I just I like finding our people and with 74 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:13.519 like all of the energy and the vibes in the ether right now around sister 75 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.560 wives, it's like we're all collectively trying to find one another. It's magnetic. 76 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.199 Week. Are so excited about the whole shit that's about to go down 77 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:25.680 on the twenty of the August year of Our Lord. This season's gonna be 78 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:30.160 fire, dude. I think it actually is going to be pretty good because 79 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.319 I think that these wives, at least two of them, okay, Christine 80 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.600 and Janelle, look like they're ready to be a little bit more honest. 81 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:43.319 Yeah. Yeah, especially Janelle when she's telling Cody to buck off. Yeah, 82 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.480 oh I love it. Well, why don't we start there? Because 83 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.399 there was a second trailer that was released this week. You posted it up 84 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.639 on our Instagram, So if y'all haven't seen it, go to Reality tv 85 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:58.360 Grunt on Instagram you can watch it. But why don't we play it now? 86 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.720 Just the audio for the raccoon and then you and I can chit chat 87 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.920 afterwards. All right, here it is. I left Cody because I could 88 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:13.480 see he had favorites. I've heard him refer to ask his friends. You 89 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.360 have cheated me out of my family. You're not pushing me out the door. 90 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:20.079 That's an exaggeration, not a lot. I think you're manipulating. No 91 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:21.879 no, no, no, no no no no no. You stay and 92 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:29.959 talk, you shut it off. I can't. This season of Sister Wives 93 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:39.480 August twentye ten on TLC and stream on Max Girl Girl, So, I 94 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:44.279 mean, there wasn't a lot new, but there was a couple of tidbits 95 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:49.600 here that were fire, yes, starting with Christine again calling Cody out for 96 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:55.800 having a favorite wife chef's kiss so perfect. Do you think she's sting the 97 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.240 money? Do you think she's going to go all in and like talk about 98 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.839 it. That's what I'm scared about is because even last season, when she 99 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:05.959 was leaving and she was going through so much, and Robin and her family 100 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:10.920 were completely inappropriate when they all sat by, like there was so much going 101 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.120 on, she still didn't give us a lot of information. At the Tell 102 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.079 All, she got a little upset, yeah, but it still felt like 103 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:24.600 she was like shielding and guarding the family and Janelle as well. Janelle was 104 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.199 a little bit more open in last year's tell All, you know, kind 105 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.959 of calling Robin counselor Robin right this or that. But that's what I'm worried 106 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:35.319 about. I'm worried about them not going all the way. God. Well, 107 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:40.000 I mean, I feel like with Christine, if the rumors we had 108 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.600 talked about a couple weeks ago about her being seen out in public talking shit 109 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.639 about Cody and Janelle was there and all that, if that's true, then 110 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.680 maybe because this season I've read that Christine is going to be in Utah, 111 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:56.519 They're going to be filming her in Utah where everyone else is in fucking Flagstaff, 112 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.920 maybe she'll let loose a little bit and like I mean that by brown 113 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.639 standards, like they're not going to be going off like Cody's a piece of 114 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.920 shit, he's got Robin Liddle hair, he's got a small dick. Like, 115 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:07.319 they're not going to be saying all of that. That's what we'll be 116 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:13.079 doing, saying what we'll be inferring, But like I feel like maybe she'll 117 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.639 be dropping some shit because I mean that's kind of big, right saying it. 118 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.240 I felt like he had favorites, right, she has said that already. 119 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.040 But like to your point, there was that scene from the first trailer 120 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.439 where Garrison and Janelle and Christine and I forget who else was there, but 121 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.399 they were like, Robin can have him, you know, we don't need 122 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:37.639 a father figure anymore. So it feels like they're getting together as that faction 123 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.480 of the family, and they're being more open about their feelings. Right, 124 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.960 that's the shit I want to see. Please stop guarding and shielding. Yeah. 125 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.360 The reason they might continue to do so is because as they tell the 126 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.879 truth about their lives, they're going to tip their hand that they've been lying 127 00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:00.440 this entire time. And Christine has been lying. Yeah, and La has 128 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.399 been so fucking loyal to Cody, which makes this whole thing wild. Yeah, 129 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.519 that's happening. With totally. But she's been so loyal, she's been 130 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.360 towing that fucking line, and so for her to come out now and say 131 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.519 that was all a lie. He's been neglecting us for years. He hasn't 132 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:16.519 seen my kids for years. It's like, well, then, why the 133 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.200 fuck were you lying to us for what twelve years? Right? Why were 134 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.919 you putting on this facade? But I mean, to play Devil's advocate, 135 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.480 like, this is a family we're talking about, right, So maybe they 136 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.879 don't want to air all of their dirty laundry out on TV for seventeen years. 137 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.200 I mean, I know they're on film, but it's because they're broke. 138 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.919 They need the money, they want the check. Yeah, So like 139 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.080 they're doing this for a reason. And it's kind of like with John Nate 140 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.600 plus Kate, We're like a lot of things were going on behind the scenes 141 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.279 that we didn't see, but like a lot of it was kind of leaking 142 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.480 out on TV and that's why people are attracted to the show. So, 143 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.320 I mean, I could see a world where why they would be hiding for 144 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:01.240 Cody and why they would be trying to make it work because you know, 145 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.399 it's for the betterment of the family. Right, I guess. But like 146 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:09.919 juxtapose that with Plath Phil, where you have season four, we've got Kim 147 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:15.840 who's divorcing Barry, She's leaving the house in the homestead. You've got Ethan 148 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.919 and Olivia kind of going through their bullshit having fights on camera. It's there 149 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.399 seems to be just a higher level of transparency, which I think makes it 150 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:28.840 a more compelling show, especially when your whole audience knows when you're lying. 151 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.840 That's such a good point. Everybody knows that they've been lying for season after 152 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.639 season after season. Like, if you really want to redeem this franchise and 153 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:43.759 potentially create offshoots like David and Christine or Janelle and Mary and all the shit 154 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.559 that they're doing, or kids shows and stuff like that, tell the truth 155 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.799 right now, that's true. That's a great point. That would be way 156 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.759 more interesting if I'm seeing Christine pop off, if I'm seeing Janelle pop off, 157 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.519 not just with Cody like in that scene, but to the camera telling 158 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.679 the truth. Oh being I'm in Yes, that's true. Do you think 159 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.200 they're going to have a better tell all this season two? No? I 160 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:13.159 have no, Oh my god. If it's so, I can't with Sukiana. 161 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.720 I really got drug though after that tell all, like you went, 162 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.000 I went to her instagram. You went to her instagram. People were just 163 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:26.279 going crazy because you didn't again, no truth telling. You didn't ask any 164 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:30.440 of the questions that we needed the answers to. Yeah, bring an actual 165 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:35.720 interviewer like I'm Carlos King would be awesome, Tamarin Hall would be awesome. 166 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.279 Yeah. And I think she did a tell all with them many many years 167 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:43.039 ago, which I think was removed, and I want to say it was 168 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.879 reality. T Squad made a video probably within the last week talking about this 169 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:52.720 tell all that isn't available anymore, where I think certain things were exposed and 170 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.320 us Christine was humiliated in some way. I got to go back and watch 171 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:00.120 that video. Oh my god. But like we need an inter off. 172 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:05.559 You were who's willing to go deeper? Yeah, then Shamalama Dingdong well and 173 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.440 not let Cody fucking dictate all the shots and dictate what questions can and cannot 174 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.639 be answered, Like you're not the head of the show anymo. But it 175 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.759 really kind of felt like they had given him that power, like they had 176 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.480 a real power to be separated from everybody else so you wouldn't have to be 177 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:24.039 held accountable. He wouldn't even talk about Robin at all. Yeah, and 178 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.759 he wouldn't answer questions that he didn't like. And so if that this fucking 179 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.879 cannot fly, No, it can't. And there should be like more than 180 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.000 three parts of a tell all, or if you're going to have three parts 181 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.000 of a tell all, they need to be like a full ass hour is 182 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.279 that of forty minutes because you're talking about the breakup of this entire fucking family. 183 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:46.159 You're talking about Mary, Janelle, and Christine all leaving, and they're 184 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.639 all leaving for the same reason because Cody don't want to touch them, no 185 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.440 mo right, Cody don't love them, no mo I want to hear all 186 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.960 of that shit. Yeah, They're better be a good fucking tell all there. 187 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.000 Let this be a good fucking season, please, because that's the way 188 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:09.639 they're marketing this, Like these trailers are are so dynamic, bombastic and dramalicious. 189 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:13.120 They're almost promising a different kind of season. And I'm telling you, 190 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.120 DLC, if you want to continue with this franchise or with offshoots, you've 191 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.399 got to start fucking telling the truth. And you've got to start throwing Cody 192 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.039 under the bus, which they were doing honestly, they were doing some of 193 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.639 that totally in season seventeen, but it needs to be way more transparent and 194 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.440 way more overt. Yeah, I need to see him get dragged. Okay, 195 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.639 let's go a little deeper into this second trailer. Okay, we see 196 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:41.240 Janelle and Cody on the couch in her dormitory apartment, and he's saying something 197 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.279 about her keeping him from the family. He said, you've been cheating me 198 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.919 away from my family, or something like, Okay, I just loved Can 199 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:56.120 we talk about that under what theory has Janelle kept Cody away from her children? 200 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.200 That's a joke. How is he going to come up with? What 201 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.279 is he going to say, hey, Beatrice, like you are, he 202 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.240 is talking out of his fucking ass. If he's really trying to say that 203 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:11.159 Janelle has been keeping him away from his family, why because she didn't force 204 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:15.600 the kids to social distance and stay at home in quarantine in order to see 205 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.840 you, even though you weren't doing that, and even though you and Robin 206 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.360 were the only two out of the entire family that got fucking COVID from your 207 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.759 nanny, and you guys aren't even fucking vaccinated. You made the rest of 208 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.919 the family get vaccinated. You made the rest of the family do all these 209 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.840 stupid COVID rules that you didn't even fucking participate in. You were going to 210 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:37.519 weddings and dancing with a bunch of people, wouldn't even go to Isabel's surgery. 211 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.120 Come on, dude, right, So I'm just wondering what kind of 212 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.039 mental fucking gymnastics he's going to be going through to try and blame Janelle, 213 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.440 who, I say, once again, has been probably the most down and 214 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:54.120 loyal, totally wife that he has had, yep. And so I'm just 215 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.320 like, I don't even know how you get there, dude, other than 216 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.159 Gabe and Garrison, who have pretty much told him. They had that altercation 217 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.879 out on Coyote Pass where they're confronting him about COVID and all the protocols, 218 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:13.240 and afterwards he called them narcissists. Maybe it's Gabin Garrison and her not being 219 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.519 able to bring her children to heal. I'm just like, dude, the 220 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:22.639 audacity Janelle has been paying the family bills for twenty something freaking years, where 221 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.159 because you can't fucking work, Robin can't work, and she's got all that 222 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.679 Victoria's secret det and she's got a mic mansion. Well, fucking Janelle has 223 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:33.240 been begging for a goddamn casita or just something to live in. She had 224 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:37.120 to buy a fucking RV just so she had a place to live in. 225 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.080 Because you are spending all of your money on Robin, right, And the 226 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.440 reason he was so mad about that was because he wants that money to pay 227 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.000 off Coyote Pass. Yeah. I do have to just maybe correct that a 228 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.639 little bit, because I do think we've been saying a couple of things. 229 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.799 First and foremost, that Janelle was the primary breadwinner. I'm really not so 230 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.399 sure about that. I think she was a bookkeeper when they were in Utah, 231 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.159 probably down twenty five to thirty thousand dollars a year. Maybe, I 232 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.080 don't think that's going to be supporting the entire family. I think we had 233 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.799 Christine on food stamps. I think we probably had Mary on food stamps. 234 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.919 You know, they're rigging the fucking sus true, declaring bankruptcy, they're doing 235 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.879 all of these other things. So while Janelle did like to work and didn't 236 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:22.080 have a job, I'm really not sure how much money she brought into it. 237 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.000 I don't know how successful she was as a real estate agent in Vegas. 238 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.799 Maybe she was very successful. I would love to hear from a raccoon 239 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.720 who might know the answer to that, please, But I think she gets 240 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:36.519 more credit actually than she might be due. And with regard to the Victorious 241 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.600 Secret ship, because you and I have heard and it's just all over the 242 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:44.519 internet, the fucking bill for that was like fifty thousand dollars or ridiculate that 243 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:49.799 in actuality, somebody did a forensic investigation into her bills. I think her 244 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:56.080 Victorious Secret charges amounted to about a thousand dollars. Oh that's it. Yeah, 245 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.399 so it wasn't that much. Maybe her total debt was up around fifty 246 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.279 or seventy I'm not sure. I'm speaking out of my ass, but the 247 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:06.920 Victorious Secret aspect of it was not as large as so many of us have 248 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.200 been saying that you're waiting. That would have been funnier, it would have 249 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:15.680 been better. It would have been better girl. Okay, back to the 250 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.680 trailers. So Cody says that horse shit, and then Janelle says something like, 251 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.319 now you're trying to push me out of the family, Yeah, which 252 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.359 is crazy. And this is where he gets mad. He's like, no, 253 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:26.680 no, no, no, no, I'm not putting up with that, 254 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.839 and then she says, and you're manipulating me. And then that's when 255 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.000 he gets up and leaves, and she's like, so you're going to walk 256 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.119 out and leave and that's when she says, fuck you, right, So 257 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.960 she's calling it. And so maybe what he's actually doing is try to trying 258 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:48.160 to reframe the whole situation that Janelle has been conspiring behind his back with a 259 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.680 click of kids or anti Cody. And I also noticed there's a Christmas tree 260 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.079 behind her yea, So maybe she has decided at this point that she's going 261 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:03.319 to spend her holiday with her kids with Christine somewhere else that Cody can't go. 262 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.559 And so maybe that's why he's saying, you're pushing me out of this 263 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.720 family or you're keeping me away from my family, and she's like, no, 264 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.000 I'm calling you on this bullshit because now you're trying to frame me as 265 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.559 the bad guy. This is just another manipulation that you and Robin aren't doing. 266 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.400 Oh and to your point, I wonder if he's getting I wonder if 267 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.720 he's trying to like cause a split in the family where like nobody fucking talks 268 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.079 to Christine. Because last season he was talking about how like the other wives, 269 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:33.440 like if they're going to be friends with Christine, if they're going to 270 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.599 talk to her whatever, like that's going to cause an issue with him because 271 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.079 of loyalty and respect and all that. I wonder if he's trying to cause 272 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:42.880 that rift, because if that's true, if Janelle's like, well, I'm 273 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:47.319 going to spend Christmas with Christine and her kids because my kids would love to 274 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.359 hang out with her kids, and we're just going to do that because my 275 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:53.480 kids consider Christine to be their mother exactly. And if Robin and Cody are 276 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:59.839 still doing their stupid social distancing, no Christmases whatever, then yeah, of 277 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.480 course Janelle is going to do that. So maybe he's pissed off because of 278 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:04.359 that, Like maybe he's like, well, no, you can't go and 279 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.279 hang out with Christine. Yeah, because I think at the end of season 280 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:11.839 seventeen, we have Thanksgiving up in the air, right, and Janelle's like, 281 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.480 yeah, I'm not going to be here for Thanksgiving, and so I 282 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.559 think that this is the next month after that. So we're still in fucking 283 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:19.559 twenty twenty one, and I'm wondering, are we going to catch up to 284 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:23.160 at least the end of twenty twenty two. I'm like, how much how 285 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:26.799 much time are we going to cover in this season? Because so much has 286 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.880 happened, right, And maybe that's why the family is also secretive too, 287 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:36.880 because they're filming two years behind, so they can't give away everything. But 288 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.160 I don't know, like it'll be weird to see what happens in this season 289 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.319 because we know Janelle and Mary have left two so they're gone. So are 290 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.440 we going to see Mary in his divorce? Like I'm be going to see 291 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.559 the confrontation of that. I mean, we've seen, like in the first 292 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.200 trailer, we see some discussion around that, and in this trailer, Mary 293 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.039 says something like, well, I've heard him refer to us as friend And 294 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.079 I was thinking, when you say us the Ogs, do you mean the 295 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.680 wives or does she mean him or like her and Cody like us together. 296 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:12.079 I wonder because I kind of took it like the og wives, Yeah, 297 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.960 we're just friends. Yeah, but maybe she's talking about her and Cody, 298 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:21.720 right, I don't get Cody, Like what incentivizes these women to want to 299 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:26.400 be in relationship with you right, Like with Janelle, it would have probably 300 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.400 been really easy. You don't have to fuck her. You just have to 301 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.640 love her kids exactly. You just have to take care of her boys and 302 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.519 not ostracize them, and not fight with her kids and make her choose between 303 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.440 you and her dogs and you and her kids. But he can't even do 304 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.920 that. He doesn't fucking visit them, he doesn't take care of them. 305 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.960 She's the one supporting them, and he can't even do that. He can't 306 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.119 even show up. He can't do it. And she would have been the 307 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.640 easiest wife I think to keep around, oh totally, because she didn't want 308 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:57.000 I don't think she wanted to leave Code. I don't think she wanted to 309 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.839 bring up the family like I think she knew Christine was like a law's cause, 310 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.359 like there was nothing she could do or say to make Christine stay. 311 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.279 And I don't think she would want Christine to do that because she cares about 312 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:11.319 Christine. And same with Mary, Like if Mary wanted to leave, Janelle 313 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.200 probably would have been like, it's fine, but like, just be around 314 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.160 my family. But no, you call your kids narcissists and don't see them 315 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.839 for months, nine months, don't even go and see Christine's kids or go 316 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.559 to the surgeries or anything. It's like, you can't even do the bare 317 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.559 fucking minimum. He can't, and he's using the same script. It looks 318 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.880 like he's using the same script on Janelle that he used on Christine. That's 319 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.519 just so wild to me because I'm like, how do you not see how 320 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.519 you are perceived? I don't get it. I mean unless you're truly and 321 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:45.799 I know we throw around the word narcissist, but if you're a malignant narcissist, 322 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:49.519 then you lack the ability to introspect, to see yourself and have that 323 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:53.960 kind of self awareness. So maybe you see herself being an absolute fucking douchebag 324 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:59.200 barbarian on television and you think you're winning it life because you have a fucking 325 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.440 mental disorder. Yeah, and then you manipulate other people like McKelty to say, 326 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.759 oh, it's just bad editing, they just make me look bad on 327 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.960 TV. No, it's this is literally how you are. I can't with 328 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:15.400 her. She also said something you had just mentioned about Cody having an issue 329 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.839 with his wives being friends with Christine. She actually defended him on this point 330 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.440 on her blocks around, like, yeah, she was like, well, 331 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.240 why would he want, you know, his other wives to hang out with 332 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.079 the wife that he's no longer with. I'm like, McKelty, that's your 333 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.319 mom. Oh my god, I saw which I can't with her. I 334 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.880 literally cannot with her and Tony Pedron what is wrong with her? I don't 335 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.079 know, but yeah, she defended him for a feeling that way. I 336 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:45.960 don't get that. I don't get how you can't look at this objectively and 337 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.759 be like, yeah, my dad is wrong here, like my mom may 338 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.880 have not handled the situation perfectly, whatever, if you want to fault her, 339 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.720 but like, how can you look at this situation and even defend Cody 340 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:03.240 and why? Like one little minute, wait, how can you defend him? 341 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.720 I don't know. And I won't subscribe to her patron because I just 342 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.400 can't take her. No, I can't take her and I can't take her 343 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:14.519 husband. But if there are any raccoons out there that subscribe to her patreon, 344 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:18.759 my question for you, and you can DM Beatrice on the Instagram Reality 345 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:23.400 TV cringe, My question for you is, does mckeltie ever criticize Cody and 346 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:29.319 Robin? Like does she does she ever have like a counterbalance or a counterpoint 347 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.119 on some of these issues, like yeah, my mom, because remember in 348 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:37.680 season seventeen when she forces Christine to have the meeting to say goodbye, but 349 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:41.480 right before that, she's like, okay, so what are we doing? 350 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.480 Do we need to go over there? Do we need to take the toilet 351 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:47.599 seats or something like that? Do you remember what she said? Do we 352 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.920 need to go fuck shit up? Essentially? Right? Like, where's that 353 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.559 sentiment is it? Does she say anything like that on Patreon? I'm curious 354 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:57.759 because she's not saying anything like that in terms of publicly. I'm not reading 355 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:02.720 anything like that on at it. She just seems to be hyping up Cody 356 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:04.599 and Robin. Just bizarre. I don't get it. And it's because of 357 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:08.720 our friendship with Robin, I think because she I think she believes Robin as 358 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.640 like I came in gab in hand and I just love everybody. I'm just 359 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.599 a good person. How can you watch the show McKelty, I don't know 360 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.200 and not have them more. Maybe she doesn't mind, Maybe she doesn't watch 361 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.799 the show. I think now they're doing recaps because Gwen is making so much 362 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.000 money on Patreon that now to McKelty are also doing that I don't know, 363 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:32.240 girl, but I know probably picking and choosing episodes. Maybe maybe or maybe 364 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.720 they're doing it just to make their dad look good. Maybe they are, 365 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.160 like I don't know, maybe Cody is like straight up manipulating McKelty. And 366 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.319 I mean really like she's the only kid that's coming out defending Cody. I 367 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.599 feel like nobody else's no nobody else, not even Gwen. I mean, 368 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.640 Gwen is not saying anything bad necessarily about Cody and Robin, but like she's 369 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.759 not, but she's critical, and she's critical on the download. You right, 370 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.240 but she's critical, but like you don't even hear Robin's kids, like 371 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.279 her three original children coming out and talking aboutably fucking clamped down can't say anything, 372 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.880 which is wild. The last thing I wanted to just run by you 373 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.680 is David Woolley, Like I'm I can't wait to get a sense of this 374 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.000 guy, yeah, because I want to know whether he can go toe to 375 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.440 toe with Cody. And you know, obviously he was at Gwen's wedding. 376 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:29.200 He's there with Christine. Cody looked really fucking pressed, and so did Robin. 377 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.119 They did not look happy to be there. I'm wondering if it's because 378 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:37.000 David is there. I'm wondering what his personality is like, for example, 379 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.799 some of my husband's energy. Now you know my husband to be a very 380 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.400 kind person because he likes you, Yes, But if you didn't know my 381 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.759 husband and he didn't like you, you can kind of perceive what kind of 382 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:49.200 energy he would put off in a room. And it's noticeable, right, 383 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.720 Oh yeah, it's tough. And so I'm just wondering, like if David 384 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:57.960 brings that kind of confident, masculine he doesn't look like it to me, 385 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:00.839 but maybe I'm wrong. Well, but he's like, I mean, he's 386 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.839 got like nine kids, he was a he's a widower, right, So 387 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.359 like maybe he is. And I think he's successful. He's a professional person, 388 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.680 he's a contractors. He's obviously making Christine happy. Yeah, he's making 389 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:18.680 Christine. Yeah. So I'm just wondering what he's going to bring to this. 390 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.400 I'm wondering if he's going to be talking to camera. Oh my god, 391 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:23.880 I hope it's Christine and David on the couch, or if it's just 392 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.960 David on the couch giving his fucking opinion, Like I'm here for that, 393 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:33.480 I just die. I hope I hope, I hope t TLC understands when 394 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.240 you look at these two trailers, they know exactly what we want. This 395 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.640 is what we're fucking living for. Please so give it to hi. Please 396 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.799 don't just give us all the highlights in these fucking trailers of the whole entire 397 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.319 season. But now I'm thinking, are they even going to have David in 398 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.480 here? If we're filming in late twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two, 399 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.880 when did Christine announced that they were She announced like this year that they 400 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.759 were together, right, and then now they're engaged. They but yeah, 401 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.640 but they were together in twenty twenty two, so maybe we'll see like their 402 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.759 courtship. Maybe maybe. And there are also rumors that there might be a 403 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:15.039 David and Christine wedding special, which I would totally watch every episode of just 404 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.359 because I know it will kill Cody and Robin and that check goes just to 405 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:23.240 Christine and David. They don't get any portion of it. Yes, well, 406 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.279 so maybe they will be honest. Maybe they're out of their contracts or 407 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.400 something with Cody, like maybe they sign their own contract. Sure, I 408 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.359 can say whatever. Other shit I want to know is like, how did 409 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.279 you disentangle your finances. Right, Christine just picked up and left. She's 410 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.680 like, Yolo, you can have this fucking property for time dollars buy, 411 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:45.200 I'll take my house and I'm gone. I don't think she's under any obligation 412 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.640 to Cody and his dumb LLC with Robin. Yeah. So, and also 413 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.079 there was, I mean months and months ago, there was some pictures I 414 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:57.640 think on Christine's ig of her at her then house with David and there was 415 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:03.599 a film crew there. So day it's definitely going to be in this season. 416 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.519 Oh oh my god, give it to me. I'm just wondering what 417 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:07.960 his energy is. I mean, I just don't know, Like was Cody 418 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.279 and Timid dated. I personally can't really see it with David, but that's 419 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.319 because I haven't met his energy yet, right, Maybe he's got big dick 420 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.200 energy. So I'm saying maybe he maybe he's a papa, Maybe he's a 421 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:26.640 tough dude. I'm ready for a girl. Christine's got a tat tat tat 422 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.440 with David. Yeah, God, you know they're fucking I hope so, 423 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.920 oh my god, I hope it. How old is he? Though? 424 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:34.759 I mean, let me get a sip here how old is he? He's 425 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.559 probably get in his fifties. Fifties. Yeah, it's older than that a 426 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.319 little bit. She's what fifty one. I don't think he's that much older. 427 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.039 I don't probably fifty six, fifty seven. He just kind of looks 428 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.160 I'm not going to say elderly, but I just don't know how much he's 429 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.000 fucking and laying it down, you know what I mean? But I hope 430 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.799 so for her. Dude, see alist too. You know what I'm saying. 431 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.799 I'm in the medical field, and you'd be supriime reading people's medical records 432 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:04.440 all time. Seventy eighty year old men still fucking how still fuck are they 433 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:10.039 doing the viagral? Some of them aren't though? How can that be? 434 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.599 I literally read a dude today seventies. You know, I'm not giving any 435 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:18.680 patient patient. Don't come here for me with the hippa. I know the 436 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.480 hippa. But he's like in his seventies and he's still fucking dude, what 437 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.279 is he putting that on his paperwork? For? Sexually? You tell the 438 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:33.880 urologists, okay, because you're prostate, probably they're just fucking hot, okay, 439 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.599 Papa. Oh yeah, so I'm hoping for that with Christine, that 440 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.599 she's having a wonderful sex life because all she has ever known is Cody Brown. 441 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:47.440 And I'm sorry with his fucking pencil dick, your pencil getting what I'm 442 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:52.599 just not confident his fucking ringlets and his sexual prowess whatsoever. So now she's 443 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.359 got a fucking titty tat. Yes, I think she's getting her back blown 444 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.640 out. I hope she's getting that sensual seduction baby. Yes, it's on 445 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.920 our vision board, and it's on our vision board for Mary as well. 446 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.839 Ye want that for Mary, deeply, truly, madly and deeply yes, 447 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.519 And we want that for Janelle because I don't think Janelle gets it. I 448 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.599 really, I know she has nine thousand children with they've obviously had sex, 449 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.000 But again I say, I don't think he's a sexual dynamo. And to 450 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:25.599 our conversation last Monday, when we inappropriately speculated about Cody's sexual orientation, like 451 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:30.720 if there is a world where maybe he's a bisexual person, it might prefer 452 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.519 men, but he's doing with the Mormon thing that he's got to do right, 453 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.319 Like maybe she just hasn't been with a man who is truly loved up 454 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.480 on her Volopucu was a body. Yeah. I just loved all of her 455 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:47.240 curves and everything, knew the places to rub. Yes, when you know 456 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:52.200 she likes to camp, you know she totally cowboy a cowboy. Oh no, 457 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.519 oh my god, he's getting his nails done. He's not a fucking 458 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.400 cowboy. She needs a cowboy. What does Robin see it? And then 459 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.240 why is money? She the favorite? What? She was the youngest, 460 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.000 she was the thinnest. Oh, they made millions on this show, I 461 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.799 mean. And so she hitched her wagon to Cody Brown and the Brown family, 462 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.519 pretending that she wanted to be a part of the family and wanted to 463 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.880 integrate. And she did. And I think she loved Cody. I think 464 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.599 they fell in love. I do, Yeah, But um, I don't 465 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.599 know what's going to keep her there once these three bitches are gone and the 466 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:29.799 family's gone, and maybe TLC and the cameras are gone and following the other 467 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.920 people. Yeah, because I can't see a world where we're just gonna have 468 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.839 a fucking spinoff of just Cody and Robin nobody. We're going to have to 469 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.759 do it because it's her job and we take it seriously. But I don't 470 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.640 want to watch that shit. I would not much prefer to follow the other 471 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:47.799 family members, Sam's mckeltey and Tony yeah for real, and maybe Mary. 472 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:49.640 I mean, I don't want to see Mary on a spinoff if she's just 473 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:56.359 going to be the same old fake Instagram fucking monets LM bullshit, Like, 474 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.759 just be honest, talk about your feelings. I would love to do her 475 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.720 day. Yeah she's Cody when what she's nineteen years old or something lost. 476 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:12.599 I'm sure her Mormon virginity and she believed their celestial planet terrible and now she 477 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.400 doesn't get to go to the celestial planet, so you might as well be 478 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.880 fucking and get somebody who rides a Harley David's motorcycle. That's all I see 479 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.799 for just speaking it into existence. I keep drying. I don't know why. 480 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.079 I don't know what about Mary. No, she looks like she's a 481 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.400 biker chick, like she'd be in the bitch seat, right, yeah, 482 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.519 saying like she looked good in like a little leather, like a like god. 483 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.400 But back to Janelle, Ye, Janelle, if she had her a 484 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.680 cowboy who was out on the range and they were tall, tap like one 485 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:45.319 of those fucking bel sucking boots and everything, size fourteen boots or something like 486 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:52.000 that big old day my husband's big old boots and like a fucking stetson. 487 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:57.720 Yes, God, like rip on yellow Stone, Janelle, your life would 488 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.920 be changed. Oh and you're such a good woman. And she is so 489 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.319 awes No, no, she's made her mistakes. Well, nobody's perfect. 490 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.839 But I love Jane. I mean we cap for her a lot. Yeah, 491 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:14.599 as the kids style, Yeah, we cap for her. But I 492 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:20.000 mean she was not the best parent insofar as she put up with all of 493 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:24.559 this horse shright and allowed her children to be deeply hurt by a fucking asshole 494 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.079 of a person. She could have protected her family, she could have made 495 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.880 different choices, but I think that it was a matter of faith. Right, 496 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.160 she wanted to do the right thing. But I just need to I 497 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.359 just need her to get out of the box and experience life a little differently. 498 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:45.119 I just think it would blow her mind and her box. All right, 499 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.720 Well, God, that whole thing was the trailer on the trailer. 500 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.079 I'm just so excited, y'all. I'm very excited, and I've got shit 501 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.240 to say all the way up until August twentieth year of her Lord, one 502 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.559 wary three, Yes, ma'am, Please Lord, let that be released on 503 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.319 this side day so you and I can first and foremost watch that shit and 504 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.239 film ourselves and fucking reactions, and second of all pod right away and get 505 00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:10.960 with these raccoons. It better And they said it's streaming on Max, so 506 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.639 I'm like that better not inhibit. Oh no, you fucking releasing that shit 507 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:22.880 on Discovery Plus on Sunday. Everybody's been pissed about Discovery. I swear to 508 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:29.960 God, I'm gonna I'll be mad too. It might actually delay our fucking 509 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.360 um recaps, not our recaps, but I know we need to contact. 510 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.880 But where do you trust our celestial planetary father that he's going to pull through 511 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.320 and everything's going to work out for our benefit and divine order? All right? 512 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.239 Okay, do you want to get into some hot guss? Yeah? 513 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.360 Okay, then bitch, let's get into the hot gussy. It's not that 514 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:53.920 hot. There are just a few things, though, that I do want 515 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.519 to talk with you about and just to kind of get your feeling on all 516 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.679 right, first and foremost or with an article, And let me just say 517 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.519 a lot of these articles that I get in my Google alerts are dumb. 518 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.840 They're just added. They really don't add a whole lot of information. Sometimes 519 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:16.239 they're based on some reditor's speculation about that victorious secret bill and it's not based 520 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.559 in reality. But we don't care. Yeah, we're still going to talk. 521 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:25.719 Hello. So the first article is entitled Robin Brown refuses to tell kids 522 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:34.039 that their father is dying. This is from TV Showsace dot com. And 523 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.679 so you know, David Jessup is Robin's first husband. I think he now 524 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.639 goes by Preston, and I want to say, several months ago it came 525 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.559 out that he has some form of leukemia. Yeah, it's leukemia, and 526 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.679 it's not good. Yeah, and really there's a go fund me for it. 527 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.800 I think that Backwood's Barbie on YouTube talks a bit about this, and 528 00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.199 I know that she posts the go fund me quite a lot. But yeah, 529 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.480 he's sick and it's really sad. He's remarried and I think he's got 530 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.920 children with his new wife, but it doesn't really look that good. That 531 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.679 would be so fucked up if Robin was actually not telling your kids about that. 532 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.480 So let me read this to you and then we can talk about whether 533 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.760 she's that evil okay that she would do that all right. As fans of 534 00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.440 teal see Sister Wives know, Robin Brown had her three oldest children with her 535 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:30.000 ex husband, David Preston Jessup. According to a YouTuber who intensely follows several 536 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.519 different reality TV shows, including Sister Wives, named Backwoods Barbie, the biological 537 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.559 father of Robin Brown's oldest children is dying of cancer. The YouTuber alleges that 538 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:45.519 Robin Brown is adamantly refusing to allow the children she had with David to be 539 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:51.199 made aware of the fact that their biological father is dying. Robin Brown has 540 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.719 reportedly been aware of the fact that David Preston Jessup has been dying of cancer. 541 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.039 How many times do you have to say dying Jesus Christ? For over 542 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.079 a year now She's She, however, allegedly refused to tell her oldest three 543 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:07.599 children what was going on. According to Backwoods Barbie, Robin argued that her 544 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:13.360 children were currently going to school and that is where their focus needed to be. 545 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.400 She claimed that she didn't want them distracted from their schoolwork by what was 546 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.840 going on with her ex husband. What the fuck. If that's really the 547 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:29.920 case, then she's an evil awful, horrible person. Can that actually be 548 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.760 true? That would be crazy? Well, but I mean, at what 549 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:43.159 point do we place responsibility on these adult children? Dayton? Brianna is Brianna 550 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.960 an adult. I think she graduated with Savannah, so I think she's eighteen 551 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.199 years old, and then Aurora is going to college. So like, at 552 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.000 what point do we say this is up to you? Like it's out of 553 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.519 the ether. It's like we've talked about it, we know about it, 554 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.360 So I would imagine they know about it too. If you want to, 555 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.239 you can reach out to your father, make a connection and see what's going 556 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.880 on. I guess unless you have a fucking manipulative ass mom who's like telling 557 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:13.719 you lies about your dad, Like who knows what she's telling these kids? 558 00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.480 And I mean, I'm just speaking from personal experience, Like I have a 559 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:22.679 cousin who my uncle is her dad. When my uncle and his wife got 560 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:28.280 divorced, his wife took my cousin and moved up to some podunct funking town 561 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.440 in Washington State, changed her numbers, changed the address, changed my cousin's 562 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:37.880 name, so that way she couldn't contact my uncle. My uncle couldn't contact 563 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.679 her, and was like that for years until she finally, as an adult 564 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.039 in her twenties now, finally decided to reach out because she got away from 565 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.920 her mom and away from her stepdad. But it took that whole time, 566 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.239 and it took being away from her mom and living on her own. She 567 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.840 moved out a state away from her crazy ass mom to get to be able 568 00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.639 to contact my uncle. So, I mean, it could be a situation 569 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.239 like that. And when you look at Robin on the show, like she 570 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:12.440 doesn't like when cameras go into the house. She doesn't want her kids playing 571 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:17.800 with Truly. Yeah, there's a definite separation between her family and everyone else, 572 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.199 despite how in early season she's always talking about, you know, how 573 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:27.320 King Solomon is going to be uniting the family and how that's her fondest desire 574 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.039 and she's going to be a surrogate from Mary, Like that never really happened, 575 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.840 and she doesn't seem at all interested in putting her family on the altar 576 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.519 of TV and exposing her family to whatever's going on. But what we do 577 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.079 see of Robin with her kids is she's a fucking helicopter mom. Yep, 578 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.639 totally. We see her own kids having panic attacks crying, supersensitive, just 579 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:57.119 like their moms. So I can imagine a world where she's absolutely keeping them 580 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.000 inside, feeding them information, maybe keeping them in a state of fear. 581 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.800 And I can also see a world where she's telling these kids that their father 582 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.239 was an abusive piece of shit. And I'm not saying that he wasn't. 583 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.159 I don't know, Yeah, but I don't trust her. She is not 584 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.079 a faithful narrator. I don't trust that either. And I mean, regardless 585 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.800 of what their relationships were like with their father, I'm like, I feel 586 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:24.440 like you should still at least tell them because they don't have to contact them, 587 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.800 Like, if they know he's dying or whatever, they don't have to 588 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.239 contact them. If they had such a terrible relationship with them, that's on 589 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.880 them. But I feel like, as a parent, as the responsible party, 590 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.840 you should still be like, hey, your biological father is passing away, 591 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.119 Yes, Like what the fuck? Yeah? Like I don't know, 592 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:49.480 dude, Like I have a child from a previous marriage, and you know, 593 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.920 it didn't really work out where we could co parent. I always wanted 594 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.199 to, but he didn't want to co parent, and he essentially kind of 595 00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:02.480 dropped off the face of the earth. And irrespective of my judgment of him 596 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.159 as a person. Because of that, right, I always encouraged my daughter 597 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.559 to stay in contact with him, to visit him, to give him a 598 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.480 shot, give him a chance. I always advocated for him when I really 599 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.360 didn't need to do that. Yeah, my kid would tell you that I 600 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.519 did that. Right, That's just the right thing to do as a parent. 601 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.159 I mean, if he was an abusive asshole my ex husband, which 602 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.760 he wasn't, but if he was an absolute piece of shit or dangerous, 603 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.800 then obviously I wouldn't be out here advocating. But like, you gotta be 604 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:37.480 able to create a space or a bridge for your kids to love the other 605 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.079 parent, right, And I can see Robin manipulating them out of that totally, 606 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.280 because even if their marriage was so terrible, her Davis or whatever, 607 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.360 if he's remarried and he has other kids, like, maybe there's a chance 608 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.880 he's changed, or maybe he's grown up a little bit, Like maybe he's 609 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.800 not an abusive person to this family, Like I don't know, Like, 610 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.800 why don't you have that ability to forgive? I guess, give or just 611 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.159 be like it doesn't matter. It was the past, right, we were 612 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.159 young, Right, But some of his family members have spoken out and said 613 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.480 he was not abusive. In fact, it was the other way around, 614 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.239 Like she was a fucking terror. So wow, who knows what's true? 615 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:19.480 I don't know, but like we see Robin Brown on our television and we 616 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.199 ain't trust in all that. All right, Next little bit of hot goss, 617 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.440 which is just kind of a cute thing that we should talk about. 618 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:32.639 Article reads Sister Wives star Mary Brown follows narcissistic abuse healing coach who helps people 619 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:38.320 heal from toxic relationships on TikTok in the wake of her split from polygamous husband 620 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:43.440 Cody Brown. This is from the Daily Mail. Yes, queen, we 621 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.159 don't actually have to read the article. That's just essentially it. She is 622 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:52.599 now following this coach who deals with narcissistic abuse. She only follows like seventy 623 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.639 people. Yeah, she doesn't follow a lot of people, so it's kind 624 00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.360 of easy to see who she's tracking and who she's following who. Well, 625 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.280 I love that, like, go on your healing journey, Mary, because 626 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.960 you were married to a narcissist. Like, I think I'm not a doctor, 627 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:12.119 I'm not diagnosing anybody, but I just feel like Cody is such an 628 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.480 arc. Yeah, Yeah, such a fucking narc dude. Yeah, in 629 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:20.000 his displays for attention even as a teenager that we hear from his former school 630 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.280 friends and stuff like, he's just he's way out there. But here's the 631 00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.840 thing, Like Mary, I think it's fifty one or fifty two years old, 632 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.679 and she had a hand in this fucking charade, just like everybody else 633 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.000 did, in allowing Cody to manipulate this family and hurt these kids and to 634 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:43.360 lie to all of America. I kind of feel like Mary and the other 635 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.639 wives to have a responsibility, especially if he's an actual narc and she thinks 636 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.760 so knows, so maybe there's a diagnosis out there, or maybe she just 637 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.920 really believes. So I feel like you have a responsibility to call that shit 638 00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.079 out and undo the damage that you're lie have done, because maybe there's polygamists 639 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:07.760 out there who are staying in relationships with fucking narcissistic asshole husbands who just want 640 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.320 to fuck and go to their celestial kingdom in in the sky, and you 641 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.760 had a hand in women staying in that situation pretending that it was so awesome 642 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:20.159 and your family was so wholesome, Like, what are you gonna do now 643 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.559 at fifty one years old, after you're leaving this marriage, to maybe change 644 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:29.320 the story that you've written on Sister Wives. Yeah, and I mean acknowledge 645 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:32.639 that you may have enabled some of his behavior and treat me and treating not 646 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.079 only you, but like the rest of the family, Like you can't just 647 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.639 sit there and watch that go bidly buy like Mary in some of these seasons 648 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.440 telling Christine, oh, just deal with it, right, just fucking look 649 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:51.440 at the mountain, like well, even with the catfish situation, which was 650 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.920 pretty fucking blatant. Yeah, Like she focused totally on the fact that she 651 00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.119 was deceived that she was talking to a man when she was really talking to 652 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:06.039 a woman. She never admitted on the show that that was emotional cheating for 653 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.960 sure, right, that she was out of integrity and that she did the 654 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.480 wrong thing. She just focused on how she was victimized by somebody who was 655 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.519 deceptive. Of course, Like she doesn't naturally take a lot of responsibility or 656 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:22.280 accountability for her fucking bad behavior, and she hasn't addressed that, I know 657 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.639 of some of the claims that are floating around out there from these kids about 658 00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:30.280 her being abusive to them exactly That's such a great point with Mary. Regarding 659 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:37.639 Mary, because I feel like Christine maybe has some ability to acknowledge her fault 660 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.800 to maybe Janelle a little bit. But Mary is a little Yeah, she's 661 00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.719 always been kind of iffy, but I think it's because she got married so 662 00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:49.039 fucking young and she's just been in this controlling, manipulative relationship. I'm not 663 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.320 making excuses for her, but I'm just saying, like she's been in this 664 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.920 toxic bullshit for the majority of her life, and not to mention like the 665 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:04.199 religious cone of it as well, which can be super traumatizing, that she 666 00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.000 might not even be aware of the fact that she's she's like given her whole 667 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.760 fucking life to this. Yeah, for what now she's getting locked out of 668 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.320 her planet? I don't think. I don't think in her face. Somebody 669 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.000 correct me. Ask Ethel, like, if her husband divorces her, does 670 00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.320 she get to go to the planet, does she to a separate plan? 671 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.119 Does she go to a planet with fucking estranged wives? Which would be a 672 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.599 better planet to be quite obvious, to God's planet? But like, what 673 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.320 happens to the wife who is disenfranchised from the polygamus family? Right? Do 674 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.280 they That's probably why Janelle stayed in it as long as she did, because 675 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:44.280 she was trying to be really faithful to polygamy and or of the aub Mormonism. 676 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.599 Well, and maybe Mary doesn't believe in it anymore like Christine, Like 677 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.360 maybe they're following suit with Christine. Maybe Janelle doesn't believe in it anymore. 678 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.519 Maybe they just became eld surprising. That would be crazy. I want to 679 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.760 know. That's why I need these people to tell the truth. And this 680 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.760 is where I'm saying again, you actually have a responsibility to do so follow 681 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:07.239 the people who bought your bullshit for twelve season, seventeen seasons now eighteen seasons, 682 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.880 so true, years, so true. All right, moving on, 683 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:16.360 now we have some welcome to Plathville goss. Yeah, so this article reads 684 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:24.079 welcome to Plathvill's Ethan Plath shares message of regret amid Olivia Plath divorce rumors. 685 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:29.880 This is from yahoo dot com and the article reads welcome to plathfill start Ethan 686 00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:34.000 Plath shared a message I think it was on Instagram, touching on regrets amid 687 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.719 rumors that he split from his wife, Olivia Plath. Quote, it has 688 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:42.960 been my experience in life that few things are heavier to bear than regret. 689 00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:49.079 Ethan twenty five wrote via Instagram alongside a carousel of photos that tagged him outside 690 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.960 a local coffee shop in Minnesota on Saturday, July twenty ninth. Underneath the 691 00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:59.480 photo, TLC viewers were quick to question his relationship status with Olivia twenty five, 692 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.760 asking if they were still together. One comment read, I don't see 693 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:09.119 a ring. Another added, you should take Olivia out of your profile photo 694 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.960 at the top of the page, as she took you out of hers. 695 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.599 I wish you both well. While the Welcome to Plathful stars have been the 696 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:21.760 subject of divorce rumors, they seemingly shut down those rumors that they're headed for 697 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:27.280 separation when they were spotted attending a dinner party together. Olivia took to her 698 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:31.079 Instagram stories on July twentieth to share a group photo that included her, Ethan, 699 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:36.559 and a group of friends enjoying an outdoor dinner. The Teal star didn't 700 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:43.039 reveal details about the occasion and only captioned the post with a heart hands emoj 701 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:49.280 MM. So what do we think about that? What is your fake psychic 702 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.960 intuition? Tell you? I bet they're divorced, and I bet they're just 703 00:48:53.039 --> 00:49:00.199 doing pr to not because if we remember that Olivia's sister had came out out 704 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:05.920 a while something yeah on the Internet and had said that Ethan and Olivia have 705 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.039 been divorced, and then Olivia clapped back and was like, no, we're 706 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:16.079 not. But I saw that Instagram post from Ethan and I shared it to 707 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:22.440 our ig story again at Reality TV Creneko follow Us plot, but I shared 708 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.559 it to our Instagram story, and I thought it was interesting because Ethan and 709 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.639 all of those photos that he shared of himself, he was still wearing his 710 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.639 wedding ring. He was he was, Okay, Olivia doesn't wear her wedding 711 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.920 ring. And all of her photos that she's been posted on Instagram, she's 712 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.480 been in Europe, she's been naked in Ireland. Yeah, she went to 713 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:45.000 a fucking wedding in the Grand Tetons or whatever in Idaho. I don't know, 714 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.280 I don't care, but she wasn't wearing a wedding ring in any of 715 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:52.840 those photos. She doesn't have any photos of him on her Instagram right, 716 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.679 And then since he tagged that in Minnesota, I'm like, Okay, maybe 717 00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.840 you're a divorce Maybe he's holding on because he's loves her. I don't know 718 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:02.239 why. Yeah, I don't know why. I either get well, she's 719 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:08.000 beautiful and she's his first love. It's like a baby duckling imprints on the 720 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:13.440 duck mama and follows them around everywhere. It's like, your heart is imprinted 721 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.320 on your first love, especially if you marry them, especially if it's coupled 722 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:22.599 with religious fucking trauma, true family problems that he is not over yet doesn't 723 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:28.639 know how to deal with, and to the extent that she helped him to 724 00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.840 get out of that world, Like now she's gone, Like where is he? 725 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.559 Just fucking working on cars? Right and pretending not to feel things? 726 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.280 Well? And it's interesting. I like, so your caption's about regret and 727 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.079 like what do you regret? Yeah, what do you do? You regret 728 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.880 your marriage or do you regret how you acted? I think he regrets how 729 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:49.559 he acted. I think he regrets some of the things that he did. 730 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.760 I think he regrets not being emotionally available to Olivia, who, by the 731 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.079 way, as a fucking psychic vampire. Yeah. I think he regrets not 732 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.440 trying harder, doing better. I think, and I'm not sure how much 733 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:07.280 of that is misplaced, right. I could tell you and remind everybody that 734 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.639 I got really fucking annoyed at him season four because he's such an emotional cripple 735 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.920 and he doesn't do the work to learn how to express himself in a healthy 736 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:19.760 way. He just fucking gets mad and tomato faced, and he doesn't do 737 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.079 anything constructive with it, and he's fucking getting cars and hiding it from his 738 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.880 wife. You know, it's a symbol in their relationship, is working on 739 00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.000 cars of his neglect of her. So yeah, I mean, and so 740 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.880 because it's a symbol, you got to talk to her about that shit like 741 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.159 he's and he didn't, and he would get mad at her for having a 742 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.119 reaction to his fuck shit. At the same time, of course, Olivia 743 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:45.280 is toxic af She sucks. She's a piece of fucking shit. She was 744 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.800 trying to drive a wedge between all of the kids and Kim and Barry. 745 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.960 And that's true too. Both of those things are true. So I think 746 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:57.400 he has some regrets, But I wonder how much responsibility he's taking on himself. 747 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.239 And I would bet you Beatrice, she ain't taken any responsibility, Oh 748 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:05.159 not at all. That's what I'm like, I'm wondering how season five is 749 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.199 going to be with them, because it's got to show, it's got to 750 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.599 show their relationship problems. I don't know if it'll show the divorce. I 751 00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.559 don't know if they want that public. Because she also did comment on his 752 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:17.960 Instagram post. She didn't say anything, she just had a fucking fire emoji 753 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.960 on there. And I think it's again. I think it's just all pr 754 00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:27.199 to act like they're still together, because like they're still connected somehow, maybe 755 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.360 or maybe they're just separated again. I don't fucking know. I just want 756 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.639 them to be done with each other because I think Ethan will be healthier. 757 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:42.119 I think Olivia's going to go somewhere. Wellsphy, she's a same She's got 758 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.519 her fucking photography business. She's doing fine on her own. She's fucking yeah 759 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:50.280 she is. She's doing an Instagram white girl influence her bullshit. Okay, 760 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:54.599 but like it's not the same money as you get after four seasons on TLC. 761 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.159 The money as you negotiate what we're with Kate Goslin, they were making 762 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.679 like twenty five thousand dollars an episode or yeah, they were, I mean, 763 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.519 and I don't know how much the Browns are making, but like they're 764 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:09.519 making some good money, yeah, I mean I plus it's fame. She's 765 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:15.079 going to fade away into irrelevancy as soon as she's off our television screen, 766 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.239 which is I think appropriate. I don't think she's gonna want to go anywhere, 767 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.639 so I think she's going to try and stay fucking connect, whether it's 768 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.320 to Mariah, who I think is seeing through her bullshit, yeah, or 769 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:30.239 whether it's keeping Ethan on the hook because he's an emotionally stunted person. That's 770 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.840 just unfortunate for Ethan, because get therapy, I mean, get therapy, 771 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:38.119 Get divorce her ass and be alone for a while and grow up on your 772 00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:42.400 own, and then you can have a healthy relationship with somebody who gets you, 773 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.639 gets how you deal with things, and can be healthy for you and 774 00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:49.679 call you out on your bullshit in a nice way so that way you actually 775 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.480 get it. Like, he just needs to be with a healthy fucking partner. 776 00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.840 I'm not excusing Ethan and his bullshit. Obviously, he's a grown man. 777 00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.880 You can take accountability for your shit, and you need to be able 778 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.039 to have that wherewithal to be like, yeah, I need therapy, my 779 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:06.960 family's fucked up. My mom fucked me up. I need therapy and he's 780 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.000 not doing that. But also, Olivia fucking sucks. Yeah, I think 781 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:16.000 she could be a narcissist yahnestly. Yeah, so this this season is also 782 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.760 going to be awesome. I think they are going to show this relationship. 783 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.840 And remember how we left it last time, when we were fucking in Jamaica, 784 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.840 r and um Mica and Mariah had had enough of fucking Olivia and then 785 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.000 we got home and for Ethan's birthday, she took fucking Nathaniel or whatever her 786 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:36.800 brother's Frankenstein whatever his name is, Bunding left separately than the family, like 787 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.800 so dramalicious, Like we left off in a very dramatic place. Yeah, 788 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.039 so I cannot wait for this season as well. Look, when we've got 789 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:50.239 Sister Wives and Plathy running concurrently, we're just gonna be spazzing the entire week. 790 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.440 Oh my god, We're gonna be having so much fun. Yes, 791 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:55.039 these are the best shows we cover, I think, you know, for 792 00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.760 me, I love that, I love them. I love them. Temptasion 793 00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.719 Island is hard, girl, Becau because those people are so fucking dumb. 794 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:07.519 I mean, the Browns. I mean, yeah, but I mean, 795 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.159 if it's not the intelligence, yo over there. But there's just there's dimensionality 796 00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.159 to these relationships. Temptation Island, we got none of that. Oh my 797 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.159 god, no brain cells? What's no brain cells? Just a lot of 798 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.360 bumping and grinding baby and titties. So these shows are this is what I'm 799 00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.800 looking for, ya, why I'm looking the layers. Listen, you don't 800 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.639 know when you're twenty five years old, Ethan Plath that this is actually a 801 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.800 good thing, right. You think you're losing everything in life is never going 802 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.519 to be the same or good again. You're very, very young. In 803 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.480 ten years, you are going to be amazed at how much has changed in 804 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:44.519 your life. And maybe you have a new wife, maybe you have kids. 805 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.239 You're going to look back on Olivia and see her as we see her 806 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.440 like she's fucking toxic. You don't need that shit in your life. Maybe 807 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.239 Olivia grows too, maybe she becomes a better person. I was a train 808 00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:59.039 wreck when I was twenty five. I was fucking out of control one twenty 809 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.079 five, yes, ma'am girl. So I mean, I'm just gonna give 810 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:06.320 a little bit of gen X grace to these people. Not to Olivia. 811 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.280 I don't care about her. You don't have to so many people like her. 812 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.159 I know, I don't fucking get it. I wasn't Reddit and I 813 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:15.679 was looking at the Welcome to Plathivill reddit and everyone is like in love with 814 00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:19.440 Olivia and if you say anything, you get credit, you get banned, 815 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.880 dude. But there's also Plathiville snark, which is a different subreddit where you 816 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:27.280 can say shit about Olivia. But then there's somebody on a campaign against Olivia 817 00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:29.559 on that one, and all they do is post about her. So it's 818 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.320 just like, what the fuck. I don't get it. I don't get 819 00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:35.480 it. Crazy. It's a toxic fan base and that's what we love get 820 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.119 all Right. Last thing we wanted to discuss in this episode, and we're 821 00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:43.719 not going to go super in depth because we're gonna talk about it in this 822 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.519 month's Raccoon Kiki on Patreon, which, by the way, if you're not 823 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:51.039 a patron, you ought to be, y ought to be go to patreon 824 00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:54.239 dot com slash reality TV cringe. Yes, but we wanted to talk about 825 00:56:54.239 --> 00:57:00.480 the Vice documentary on John and Kate plus eight, so I find we watched 826 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:01.960 it. Yeah, I know, you watched it quite a while ago. 827 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:07.199 What are some of your main takeaways about that show. I feel really bad 828 00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:13.920 for Colin, Yeah, because he's obviously the scapegoat child for Kate. I 829 00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.400 can have empathy for John. Although in this Vice documentary, who's talking about 830 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:21.840 like how Kate took advantage of the kids with filming and stuff, and I'm 831 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.679 like, you're doing that right now? Yeah, and you were there, 832 00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:28.119 right, weren't you there the entire time? You were also the adult. 833 00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.920 But I did like that John was owning up to some of his fuck ups 834 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.880 with regards to their divorce and everything. I'm like, Okay, that's cool. 835 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.199 Like I'm glad that you're grown up enough I guess to talk about it. 836 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:44.400 But I wish Kate was involved in this documentary somehow. Well, she 837 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.159 would just be lying though, I mean, I guess she'd just be covering 838 00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.480 for her abuse, which Colin called out. He called it by name, 839 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.119 he said adhasive and he didn't elaborate, So we don't know if that's physical 840 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:58.119 abuse, if that's emotional abuse, verbal abuse, but it's at the hand 841 00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:02.559 of Kate. And when he finally started to talk about the abuse to teachers, 842 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.400 Yeah, and mandated reporters. She caught wind of it, and that's 843 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.880 when she sent him away to the institution based on Colin. So that made 844 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:15.079 me like sick in my stomach. Yeah, when he said that, I'm 845 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.960 like, WHOA, that's fucked up. And he's gone for a year and 846 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.519 a half, almost two years. John had to spend one million dollars to 847 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:28.840 get him extricated from the fucking place. I mean, I'm one million dollars. 848 00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.039 And he even says it is way easier to get admitted to an institution 849 00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:35.400 than it is to get out of an institution. I believe it, dude. 850 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.119 And Colin had to sneak a letter that he had to write in crayon, 851 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:44.760 Yeah, to his dad, to his Kate never told him where Colin 852 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.480 was. How can that be? Well, because she had full custody of 853 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:51.360 all the fucking kids. She had legal custody. Yeah, but like he 854 00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.440 still had some kind of custody, didn't he know? In this Vice documentary 855 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.199 it sounded like she had he had none. Well, but I mean there's 856 00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:01.440 different types of custody. Like one parent might have physical custody, meaning the 857 00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:06.199 kids live with that parent, but they both share joint custody or they both 858 00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:09.599 share legal custody. So I'm just wondering what the total custody picture was, 859 00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.159 because I don't think there's any reason John would not have any fucking custody, 860 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.039 and he was going to their school and he was visiting them at lunchtimes. 861 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.559 That's the only time he'd be able to see all the kids together. So 862 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.880 it's not like he couldn't see the kids. Huh. So she was just 863 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:29.840 keeping the kids away from him then, I don't know, like that was 864 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.239 not clear to me. Yeah, what was happening with the custody at all. 865 00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:37.239 It feels like in this whole Vice documentary they were trying to like fit 866 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:44.199 everything they could into one episode because they didn't have the money or I don't 867 00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:46.679 know that Vice didn't want to give them more airtime than that. But I 868 00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:50.760 wish I want them to come out with more ship. Oh yeah, I 869 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.960 mean I wanted so much more from John. I think John had so much 870 00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:57.119 more to say it, and maybe he did say it and it was just 871 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.880 edited down. Yeah maybe. And Colin and Hannah, and what I thought 872 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.920 was super solid was Hannah's like the moment I found out that my brother had 873 01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.960 been in an institution. I bounced, I left my mother, and I 874 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:13.159 didn't talk to her. Now now they're starting to talk to each other again 875 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.360 after a couple of years. But Hannah's like, how the fuck can you 876 01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.159 do that to our brother? And nobody none of the kids knew where he 877 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.280 was, none of us. He just stopped talking about him. She never 878 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:25.800 told them where Colin was. And she even said that Colin was treated differently 879 01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.000 in the house, like he would eat separately from the rest of the kid, 880 01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:31.679 he couldn't eat at the same table, he couldn't go out and play 881 01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:36.599 with the other siblings, Like what the fuck, dude, And even on 882 01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:38.960 camera when they were showing some of the shots from when Colin must have been 883 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:44.119 and I don't know Rennert, like eight nine ten, he's like sitting away. 884 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:47.960 Yeah, he's looking away, he's not participating, he's not interacting because 885 01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.400 he didn't want to be on the cameras anymore, right, And so as 886 01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.360 soon as he started to do that, She's like, I have no use 887 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:59.400 for you. I just I'm like, what goes on in Kate's head to 888 01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:04.440 just a by treating one kid like that, like singling them out, Because 889 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:09.320 even in her bullshit narcissistic ass statement that she made on Instagram after this Vice 890 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:15.320 documentary came out. She only bashed Colin. She didn't even mention Hannah, 891 01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.400 which I thought was really weird. I'm like, Hannah's also corroborating what Colin 892 01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.840 is, saying that you treated him differently, you abused him essentially, and 893 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:28.119 you locked him up in a fucking institution for two years without any contact to 894 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.559 the rest of the family. She's corroborating that. But yet you're only saying 895 01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:37.360 that Colin is the one fabricating reality. And also Maddie, who is Kate's 896 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:44.679 little mini me, right, is Colin a racist, a transphobe, a 897 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:46.840 homophobic, all of the things that we say in the Year of Our Lord 898 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:52.159 twenty twenty three to get somebody canceled and unpersoned and invisible so that we don't 899 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.199 have to listen to them. Oh my god, what you're a racist. 900 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:57.280 We're not going to listen to anything you have. This is what they're trying 901 01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:00.440 to do. Totally. I am not saying that didn't do anything inappropriate. 902 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:05.280 We wouldn't really know that, no, but it just seems really fucking convenient 903 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.840 that we never saw that and then when you see Colin actually talking on camera, 904 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:14.920 he's composed. Yeah, he's well spoken. He's actually charitable towards his 905 01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:17.320 mother. He hopes that he can have a relationship. He says, I 906 01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.320 think she has a good heart. Yeah, Like he's being very mature about 907 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.840 this whole situation, even though his mom has treated him like shit. And 908 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:30.559 when she released that statement on Instagram, he was gone at boot camp. 909 01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.519 He doesn't even know. He would not have known that, and he's not 910 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:38.760 going to know that until he's out. So he hasn't responded because he can't 911 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:43.079 respond. He's away right now in the Marines. And again, I just 912 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:46.920 want to say one more time, the military doesn't tend to accept you if 913 01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:52.960 you have an extensive, extensive history of mental illness, if you're fucking acting 914 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.280 out, if you're wilding out, if you're crazy, they don't want you. 915 01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:59.760 Typically maybe the Army does, but typically they don't. Was certainly not 916 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:04.480 the Marines. And again, Colin was in the ROTC, he's in military 917 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:07.719 programs. I just can't fucking see it. And then you see him on 918 01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:13.960 camera in this documentary and again he's composed, right, he seems kind I 919 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.199 mean, for what he has been through. I mean, he seems like 920 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:23.280 I'm just like, Wow, I can't believe you're this compassionate and again charitable 921 01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:27.440 to your mom I know, I don't get it. And to your other 922 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:31.599 siblings who aren't talking to you. So Maddie Kara don't talk to him. 923 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:37.000 I find that to be fucking despicable. And his other siblings, who must 924 01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:40.239 be eighteen right around nineteen, don't speak to him, but like they're still 925 01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:45.119 in the fog. They don't have enough life experience yet to realize what the 926 01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:49.639 fuck is happening. I'm hoping that they will come around and reach out to 927 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:53.599 their brother. God, I really hope. So. The last experience that 928 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:57.480 they've had with him was when he's like thirteen years old, before he's come 929 01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:00.599 into to an institution. They don't even know who he is, No, 930 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:02.639 they don't, They have no idea. They just know what Kate has told 931 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:06.519 them. And of course, Kate being a fucking nurse, I'm sure she 932 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:13.719 told those psychiatrists exactly what they needed to hear at the institution to institutionalize him. 933 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:17.719 He's abusive, he's violent, he has crazy behavior, he can't control 934 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:23.360 his moods. Send him away by the time John gets to him at his 935 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:27.559 second institution because he finds out where he is, or like, how does 936 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.840 that happen where he's transferred from one institution to another one in Pittsburgh. I 937 01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:36.679 think Kate moved him because he found out, right, So even he's subpoenaing 938 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:41.760 and he's going to court and he's asking for the information, so she has 939 01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:46.280 him moved. By the time John finally locates him and talks to the doctors 940 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:50.519 at the second institution, he asks for a diagnosis and the doctor's like, 941 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:54.760 well, we don't have one. We're in the process of trying to figure 942 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:58.239 that out. Wow, So there's no fucking diagnosis. And John said, 943 01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:02.280 I didn't even recognize him. He didn't look like my son. And there's 944 01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:05.079 a picture of him. He must have been fourteen fifteen, Like his face 945 01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:11.000 looked swollen, and John's like, he was on so many medications for what 946 01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:15.400 that's Why is he being medicated, Britney spears fucking trips for real? Why 947 01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.920 is he being medicated without a diagnosis? This is fucking criminality. That's fucked 948 01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:24.159 up, girl. I want to tell all with Glin. I want him 949 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.719 to spill all the fucking beans. I want to hear more ship from fucking 950 01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:30.760 John. I want to hear about like the rest of their divorce, Like 951 01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.800 why Kate moved to fucking North Carolina, Like was she purposely keeping all of 952 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.880 the kids away from him? Probably? Probably? Like I just want to 953 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:41.760 hear more about this fucking family. And I'm like, where's the culpability for 954 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:46.880 TLC? Right, Like, of course John and Kate both signed away the 955 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:51.039 rights of the children and it does rest with the parents. They're the ones 956 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:55.440 that have legal authority to do this. But like, at what point is 957 01:05:55.480 --> 01:06:00.079 TLC responsible for really fucking exploiting these children? Right? And this actionable in 958 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.800 any way? Can the kids come back around and fucking sue TLC. These 959 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:08.159 kids should be able to fucking sue their parents if you ask me, totally, 960 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.679 totally, and they should be able to sue TLC for filming Why are 961 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:16.079 you filming me naked as a three year old on the fucking toilet and yeah, 962 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.480 yeah, me and my poop, taking my pictures first poop in the 963 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:24.840 potty with me and my fucking poop, And I mean, what the fuck 964 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:29.760 TLC? Oh, my god, it's wild, so wild, it's wild. 965 01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:32.480 And so if you're a patron. You know that we are covering John 966 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:36.360 and Kate Plusate, and I think we're in season two right now, and 967 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.960 I think there are what five seasons of John and Kate plus Yeah, and 968 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.639 then we go over to Kate plus, So we're committed to continuing to following. 969 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.840 I might need a break from her after season too. Honestly, maybe 970 01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.880 we could just throw in some Gypsy sisters, which is even more talk, 971 01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.960 just like a little bit of a break, because she's she's fucking terrible, 972 01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:00.760 dude, she's awful, She's eve. I know it's surprised Millet doesn't surprise 973 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.119 me. But you know what I didn't know was that when she was pregnant 974 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:12.239 with her sex tuplets, she actually reached out to like local papers and journalists, 975 01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.760 yeah, to ask them to cover her family. Interesting. Yeah, 976 01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:21.079 so she from the very beginning with planting the seeing the spotlight. Yeah, 977 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:26.199 total narcissistic behavior, I guess. But I mean, like, I don't 978 01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:28.519 know, we'll get into it on the Keiki. We'll talk about it more 979 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.039 on the Kiki. Yeah, there are several things that I kind of want 980 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.960 to go over, but yeah, I thought it was good. And raccoons 981 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.800 if you guys haven't watched it. I think it's on Hulu, I'm not 982 01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.840 sure, but on Vice okay, but I've been sending people the links on 983 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.480 Instagram. So if you want it, go on to reality TV cringe on 984 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:48.039 Instagram and I will DMU the link to watch it for free. Yeah. 985 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:51.000 Yeah. And there were no commercials, which is awesome, and I was 986 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:54.960 enlightened. I wanted more and I would like to tell all and I would 987 01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.960 like a book. I mean, but I mean, isn't that always the 988 01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.360 case? To me? I want to eat the dress, But I honestly 989 01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.320 feel like, as just as a person, I feel bad, dude, 990 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.559 for me, Hannah, for Colin, for the rest of those kids, 991 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:12.639 even for Maddie. She's been indoctrinated by this narcissist, totally fucking culty narcissist, 992 01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:15.479 and I just I want them to have a nice life and be happy. 993 01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:19.199 And Colin deserves that. He was in a fucking car wrec late twenty 994 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:23.039 twenty two, like a really bad one, and his mom didn't even reach 995 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.880 out, and none of his siblings did. He could have died. What 996 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.359 the fuck that's so messed up. I feel bad for him. At least 997 01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.199 he's got his dad. Yeah, at least he has Hannah. Yeah man, 998 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:36.960 poor kid. Yeah. Well that's all the goss and information that we 999 01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:42.439 have for this episode. Yeah, but it was fun just talking about this 1000 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:49.039 ship because I could live for it in a breathe girl. Just as a 1001 01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:53.439 reminder, we will be back on Monday slash Tuesday, depending on whether you're 1002 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:57.000 a patron. We are still covering whole island, although we are fucking irreverent 1003 01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.640 about it. We are not like doing a forensic exploration of people's vaginas anymore. 1004 01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.199 We're just doing broad strokes and getting super crazy and drunk yeah um, 1005 01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:09.039 and having fun. And then we'll be back next week, I don't know, 1006 01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:12.600 Wednesday or Thursday, Friday, to maybe do a little bit more gossip 1007 01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:16.760 because after that girl, we've got ninety day Beyonce the last resort. Are 1008 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:19.439 we going to watch that dumpster fire? Yeah, bitch, we said we 1009 01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:24.399 would. Did you see Angela Deem got in a fucking argument or just like 1010 01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:29.680 a fight with somebody at some cocktail party like yesterday? Did somebody drag her 1011 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:31.319 ass? She looked so bad? What do you mean, Oh my god, 1012 01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:33.600 is somebody drag her as? No, she didn't like drag. She 1013 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:38.520 was dragging other people's ass. But like, Angela just looks so gross, 1014 01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:42.159 dude, like she literally, so are you trying to back out? I'm 1015 01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.800 trying to understand what the fuck is going on. I'm just like starts in 1016 01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:46.960 August fourteenth. Girl, I'm gearing up for the track. Listen, we'll 1017 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:51.800 watch it, Okay. I'm just so begrudge Angela because Angela is just the 1018 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:56.000 word. You don't have to talk about her. I came into the void. 1019 01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.079 I might talk about her. Well, yeah, she is terrible. 1020 01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:01.479 I might have to mention it. We are in a dumpster, after all. 1021 01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:05.239 I was saying on the into waves that Mikel's not going to be on 1022 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:10.319 there. Yeah, I think she's going to be. It's just she's gonna 1023 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.600 be, That's what I thought, because they didn't feature, like I didn't 1024 01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.199 see him. Yeah, but I think she's just going to be in the 1025 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:23.119 resort with everybody else causing fucking trouble. And I know it is so bad, 1026 01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.319 and I know it is really wrong, but I'm here for it. 1027 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.680 I mean, if she could drag big ed honey, oh my god, 1028 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.760 please imagine if she targeted the right people. I mean, I wouldn't be 1029 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:39.439 mad at it be a dress that would be really great. So I mean 1030 01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:44.960 that's August fourteenth, and then right after that girl Sister six days later is 1031 01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.760 Sister Wives. I'm counting down the days, bitch. Yes, So we'll 1032 01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.479 be back on Monday. We'll be back next week to talk about bullshit, 1033 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.640 and then we are getting back into all the trash that's fit to eat. 1034 01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:58.760 Yes, maybe I cannot wait? All right, is there anything else we 1035 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.000 need to say to this beautiful as mineral? What if you love our podcast, 1036 01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:06.680 you better be leaving us a five starve five star, nothing less, 1037 01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:11.439 five star review on your favorite podcast platform. Really, thank you, and 1038 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.039 we love reading them, and we don't you love it? You're like, 1039 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:15.640 oh my god, look at this. Yeah, he just gives you so 1040 01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:20.640 much intervalidation. You feel like it belong And I helped to love our community. 1041 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:24.520 I love it. Yes, thank you for that. And until next 1042 01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:26.560 time, everybody peep