Okay, we are live with Alexander Merkurtis. Are you doing, Alexander,
I'm doing very well. I'm very happy to be here with Jay, especially,
as I said, in this week of all weeks, when the Orthodox
people celebrate Easter. It's obviously at a different time from the West and Easter,
but you know, us three Orthodox people, this is an important week
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got him, mister j Dyer. Jay, it is great to have you
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get to those questions for Jay towards the end of the stream. Alexander,
Jay, let's talk about globalism. Alexander indeed talking about globalism, because of
course globalism has been one of these things, one of these topics that people
have been talking about an awful lot in the last twenty years, thirty years
or so. Basically, it really began to be talking about after the end
of the Cold War. A lot of people initially discussing it very much as
a kind of economic relationship, the fact that you know, people countries would
be able to trade with each other in an uninterrupted way. That was how
as I remember, it was initially presented that we would have the global economy
come together become integrated in that fashion. And of course that all sounded very
innocuous, and it was so inocuous. It was basically banal because the global
economy has been integrated together since at least the mid nineteenth centuries. Any economic
historian would know. So why was that different? Well, I think it
gradually and clearly became obvious that what we were talking about was something very different.
It was just a trading system and an economic system. It was also
a philosophical and political and ideological system that was beginning to develop, and it
was one that was being very very strongly advocated by a small group of very
influential and very powerful people. And saying that, you know, one has
to be clear, you know, they do come together, they do meet.
We're not, however, talking about, you know, a kind of
James Bond Specter type organization, if only because what they do and what they
say they do and say in clear view, they make no attempt these people
that were talking about to conceal in any way what they're about. Well,
one person who has been keeping a close eye on all of this and has
been talking about it for a very long time and has been I think it's
fair to say critical of it, and critical of it not just because it
leads in all sorts of very bad directions, which I think it does,
but also because it is fundamentally unsustainable and its concept, the whole conception behind
it is one of control, which is unsustainable. One person who's been talking
about it is Jay Dying, And Alex said that nobody, no guest,
have we been asked to invite more than Jay. And I'm sure this is
partly why, because you can take us through and discuss this with us in
a way that I think no one else can. So. Jay, what
is globalism? Let's start with that. I don't mean, you know,
with the international global economic system, which has existed since the mid nineteenth century.
I'm in the ideology the plan. I think plan is not too far
fetched a word, the plan that we have seen develop over the last thirty
years. And who is behind it two colossal questions. But we've only got
a limited amount of time with you, so let's go. Let's go straight
in and let's start with globalism itself. What is it? Yeah? I
like that you mentioned that there was this sort of selling point some decades ago
after the Cold War, that under the guise of economics, we might achieve
this new peaceful order. And I want to go to a place that probably
not many people would expect. And if you go back to the Enlightenment,
there's a little known treatise that Emmanuel Kant wrote that I think is very influential,
and he wrote in that treatise that when we had full on Eliza,
fair, free trade, etc. When that was fully realized, we would
have what he basically calls a new world order and a kind of global peace
based around homo economicus that man seen only as an economic unit. I viewed
in that way, and if understood in that way, if that's the case,
which I think they just all sort of assumed at that time, David
Ricardo and Adam Smith and all these characters that really that would be the way
that we would achieve this future order. They had a lot of opposition from
what I believe was kind of their dialectical opposition as Western ideology progresses towards the
rise of things like socialism after the Jacobins and the communists to come about,
and I think that the idea was that this dialectical conflict would produce this again,
this eventual peaceful order. So I think they had a lot of true
believers on both sides of the conflict, whether they were dialectical materialists historical materialists,
or whether they were libertarian anarcho capitalists or monopoly capitalists, all of those
things coalesced. One of the key texts that, you know, kind of
two texts actually that form my approach to this question was the writings of doctor
Carrol Quigley, both his Tragy and Hope and his book Anglo American Establishment.
I think they give kind of an inside view. I apologize with the coughing,
I it's the allergies are terrible here, but in both of those books
he really just lays out what you're talking about, this inside view from the
perspective of entities like the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission their view
Builderberg Group could be another one of these big steering committees. The view of
the thing tanks and the NGOs and the power players in the Western Anglo sphere,
the Atlantis's power block, what they felt like would be the hope for
the world. And I like that you pointed out it's much more than just
an economic system. Even though I think the original idea was that the philosophy
of liberal economics that that would be the means the mechanism, it ends up
being much more than that. It ends up being an ideological commitment and ultimately
even a kind of a technology I think, to subvert and transform anything that
opposes it. And then I'll end with this point. And again, doctor
Quigley's books are not conspiracy texts. They're apologetics for this approach. He argues
that the tragedy of the last century was the Two World Wars. The hope
is the democratic capitalist, the liberal order that would be then preferred and promoted
and sort of almost mandated, I guess you could say, on the entire
world. And so is that really a solution? Is it really you know,
the final stage of fuki Yama type stuff. I don't think so.
I think it's unsustainable. And he says basically that the two enemies that would
have to be combated by the Atlantis's establishment would be Austro Hungarian Empire and Russia.
These two would have to be taken out. It's a sort of continuation
of the Great Game. And that's what it is that's we're living out.
I think that world that reality right now as we see this conflict through both
the Middle Eastern conflicts and the conflict in the Ukraine, they both kind of
reflect the older British imperial strategy and structure, going back to mckender and people
like that. So that's what we're living through. It is that that's the
hope according to the atlanticis establishment. But ultimately I think that's pretty deceptive.
The hope is very much tied to Malthusian ideology. They cloak that in a
lot of humanitarian in Gio, it has this humanitarian cloak that's really pushing a
lot of subversive ideas in all these other countries. Indeed, I like the
word you use mandatory. We mandated this change would be mandated, and of
course you mentioned that you know, this is all about democratic liberalism, all
of this, but ultimately there's not going to be very much choice for people.
This is ever imposedness in this way. So of course democracy, at
least as I understood it, understand it. You know, we are Greeks,
I was, I'm born in Athens, where we like to think democracy,
see it was invented. That's a questionable view, by the way,
but anyway, we like to think that democracy in fact very inherently involves choice.
And this system, ultimately, despite the fact that it's always promoted as
being intended to spread democracy, to me, it looks very much like it's
there to abolished choice. It's the system you have to have. You're not
really permitted to argue for alternatives. And you're also told always that seeking the
best economic outcome, which is a questionable concept in itself. What is the
best economic outcome, the most efficient one? That that is the objective that
one should always follow. So economic, the quest for narrow economic efficiency should
be the objective. And well, a system that ultimately a bullish's choice is
the goal. Now, have I got this wrong and you know what I've
just said about it, No, I think it lines up perfectly with the
idea of homo economicus. Man is essentially an interchangeable economic unit. The locus
of human action and purpose is the marketplace. This is a very you know,
Enlightenment based idea. I think we're still sort of manifesting. I guess
the process of the Enlightenment in the West and where it's where the bad places
it might actually take us as we work out kind of the logical consistencies are
actually inconsistencies and a lot of the philosophies of the Enlightenment. That's my take
on it. I think you're absolutely right that, you know, the idea
of you know, Athenian democracy is very different from what today's you know,
think tank based technocracy is using democracy as a cloak for For example, the
best example of this is jacque Attalie's book Brief History of the Future. There's
a whole chapter towards the end of the of the book where he says that
the spearhead of today's democracy, that today's revolution, the people's revolution, he
says, is that is transhumanism. And so there's this sort of ironic anti
human empathus. He's basically saying, to become post human, that's really the
tip of the sphere of democracy, which is again it's very odd. But
if it's not odd, if you you know, take to heart the point
that you're making here, which is that you can be The desire to transcend
the boundaries of being human and the limitations that we have actually ends up coming
out the other side and becoming something that becomes anti human. So we get
anti natalism, we get the Malthusian ideas, we get this anti human impetus.
Again is the essence of this philosophy because man is seen as a reductionist
economic unit. He doesn't have any transcendent value or anything to give him,
you know, so called rights. You think of an Enlightenment philosophy of rights,
well, if man is just a kind of a meat sack, there's
not really a basis philosophically speaking, to have rights other than the rights accorded
via some sort of technocratic superstate. And again, I think that's the real
danger, is that the ultimate goal if you look at even a book as
unsuspecting like Miles Copeland's book Game of Nations, whereas a CIA consultant, he's
essentially revitalizing and changing at least two governments. He talks about both Syria and
Egypt in that book as a consultant to modernize those governments, and he says
that, look, if you want to understand what all we're up to,
it's not about this or that weapons transfer, this black op. He says,
you need to understand the big picture. And he says you need to
go read people like James Burnham in The Managerial Society. He says, you
need to go read Bertrand Russell. You need to read the Council on Foreign
Relations documents. There's a whole appendix at the back of that book where he
says, that's if you really want to stand what the CI is up to,
it's that kind of stuff. It's not you know this or that black
op. I think that perfectly encapsulates the attitude and the perspective of what you're
talking about with democracy has nothing to do with human rights, equality for women
or any of that stuff. It's a cloak. I mean, what you
said about transcending one's own humanity. It brings me back actually to a conversation
I had with a very senior cleric Orthodox priest. In fact, he was
the archbishop of the Greek Church in London, who I used to know quite
well some years ago, and he said that if you tried to, if
you aspire to go beyond your human limits, then of course you cease to
be human, and that is an absolutely terrible thing. That is the worst
conceivable thing that you can do to yourself. Now, he wasn't, by
the way, talking about some of the topics we're talking about now, but
of course it is very closely related what he was talking about. But he
was actually talking about Hollywood and films and the fact that there were so many
characters in Hollywood films nowadays who are you know, Well, they're called superheroes,
they have extraordinary powers. And he felt that this was extremely disturbing and
was something that was taking us on a completely wrong course and was a very
very bad thing as an example to people. It's an interesting conversation, but
it brought what you've just said now brought back to me that very conversation,
because, of course, an orthodox priest will tell you that choice is in
fact an absolute central part of being human. Having the gift to choose is
something that human beings absolutely have. Of Course, how you exercise it is
important, and that's but you nonetheless do have that choice. If you're denied
that choice entirely, and if you are reduced to an economic construct and one
that's at the same time you're denying your humanity, well I think he would
have been very concerned about that, and I think it ties in frankly,
very well to the point that he was making about films. Yeah. I
think it was Berne's that said the ultimate weapon for propaganda, that the greatest
weapon the world's ever seen was Hollywood. So you know, I think I
cided that, and I wrote two books on Hollywood, and I think that
makes sense. We're getting our new meaning, our mythology from from movies.
Maybe in the twentieth century. Maybe it's going to change now that people are
no longer really interested in movies and that art form as much, maybe video
games or the future. I don't know, but yeah, I think that
that's where we that's the myth maker of the twentieth century that gave us meaning.
And I don't think it's accidental that what became kind of the big blockbuster
phenomenon for the last ten twenty years was the Marvel slash, you know,
comic book universe world, because that's all premised on a very naturalistic, evolutionary
ethos where man will, through his own devices and techne achieve a kind of
transcendence like we're talking about, and it is ultimately I think you're absolutely right,
and not of what it means to be human. I also think there's
an unintentional perhaps subversion of the incarnation itself. I mean, in Orthodox theology,
we have the idea that the second person of the Godhead became man and
thus affirmed the goodness of human nature and of humanity, and and and of
that human nature's eternal existence via you know, the resurrection, the Eskaton and
so forth, and so it's it's any attack on human nature ultimately ends up
being also an attack on the incarnation as well, because man is a little
Christophany, to use the Orthodox terminology, I meaning he's a little image of
Christ. He's a little image of the divine and that's that's his purpose,
that's his te lose, that's what he's intended to kind of work towards becoming
in Orthodox theology. And I think that you get with this transhumanist ideology a
kind of replacement Gospel. I think it's a kind of a replace it's kind
of a cult too. If you look at some of the Silicon Valley elites
that go to Burning Man and participate in kind of the rituals that go on
there, it's they actually kind of see it as a quasi cult religious movement,
and they, you know, they'll kind of reinterpret Christianity's message. In
Ethos says, well, really, you know, Christianity was just kind of
talking about eternal life through the secret gnostic tech that we have or whatever.
I think that that's very gnostic. You actually see this when you read some
of the people from the transhumanist line of thought, When you read kurtzvol or
you read no Ival Harari or even Klaus, you know, they really do
speak and quasi religious tones. In fact, when I was reading Klaus's twenty
eighteen fourth of Noos Revolution book, I didn't expect him to be speaking of
the new world that we're going into needs. He says something to the effect
of a new covenant, a new ethic, a new covenantal religious ethic,
which I thought this was a book about technology and economics. Why were we
having this you know, religious speak here. Well, then we find out
that were you know, a lot of the WF partners with you know,
elements of the Vatican, you know, put Francis Is on board with a
lot of the WF. So it makes sense to I think, push this
sort of what I view as a religious delusion along with the tech uh and
the economic policies that they want, because it's a whole worldview they want.
They want to instill an entire worldview, not just as you said, in
an economic system, and not even really an ideology. I think the technocrats
that have studied this for for so many decades they understand that man is fundamentally
religious being. He's not fundamentally motivated by abstract reasoning and concepts. You know,
Berti and Russell in one of his books says something like, if you
want to sell people on your ideology, don't do it with logic and facts.
Do it with big brass bands and music and song. And you know
that's what you see a more effective means of indoctrination Hollywood pop music rather than
ideology. Who are these people who are behind this thing. Let's let's get
back to this because why why do they want it? Is it all about
power? I mean, do they have a perspective about this that is completely
cynical. Is it that they feel that this is a mechanism for control or
do they actually genuinely believe that, you know, this is something that is
the future for humanity and that you know, they're kind of missionaries leading us
to this world. I have to say, as somebody who's had to do
legal lot of legal work in my past, in the part in my own
past, I always tend to be fairly cynical about motivations that people who tend
to talk in this way, The people who are promoting these things always seem
to me to be the people who expect at the end of the day that
they will be the better fisheries and that they will exercise control. But who
are they? What kind of people are we talking about? Are they scientists?
Are they technocrats? Are they people who have connections with the financial world.
Are they doctors, diplomats, lawyers? Or are they a class and
to themselves? I would say all the above, All the above, both
for motivations and ideas, and all the above in terms of people recruited into
the superclass, the managerial class. I think Rothkop had a book about,
you know, the managerial class, the six thousand people or so that run
the world. You know. I think the best examples are people like a
Kissing You of Brazenski, and when we go and we read their books,
we see that they you know, they're not necessarily in every case religious.
I think a lot of those people are, you know, a religious,
irreligious, atheistic, pragmatic. For example, I don't I didn't see any
evidence David Rockefeller had any particular religious commitments, but I don't think that that
necessarily excludes other members who are true believers. They might have a true belief
in the possibility of technology being a kind of Promethean flame, you know,
to take us to some sort of transcendent level, but it's hard to know,
like you said, whether they really believe it. I mean, you
know, I think Klaus and no I vol Harari, for example, are
intelligent people, so you would think they would be able to recognize kind of
fundamental contradictions. But when they both will say things like, well, you
don't possess free will or consciousness, that's an illusion. By the way,
we will upload your consciousness to the cloud. To me, that's a contradiction.
I mean, you would think you would notice that at a kind of
a basic logical level. But I think in a lot of cases that cynical
pitchman thing is coming forward. I think there's a lot of cars, you
know, phony kars, lemon car salesman, bad car salesman at work in
this domain. But I think you do have some true believers. I think
some of the Silicon Valley people really believe, mainly because they've done a lot
of hallucinogens and that kind of contributes to the quasi gnostic ideology that they have,
whether they know it or not, that leads them to believe that they
will. I mean it's very popular, well known that, you know,
Silicon Valley kind of comes out of the sixties counterculture. You've got people in
that sphere very open about their d mt lsd use. So I think there's
a very easy overlap there with being a true believer in the power of tech
to raise us to some immortality or whatever. And I think there's an element
of contingent of those people who really believe in something dark in Satanic I think
we've seen people like Michael Ichino, who had some degree of influence, and
he seemed to take his Satanism seriously. I don't, I mean, he
could have been putting up a front. I mean, certainly these people are
very adept that deception. If they're high level, you know, intelligence operatives
or something like that, then obviously they're very they're very skilled in the art
lying, so it's very possible that they were putting on the front. But
I really do think there's also a kind of motivating force, whatever your particular
bent is, if you're on board with the same basic ideas, they're not
really concerned with the particularities of your your proclivities. So I think you know,
when you read Klaus, when you read Brazilski, when you read Kissinger,
when you read Deve Rockefeller, when you read these these Western power block
elites, they tend to have kind of the same basic I said something years
ago. I did video where it was like the ten commandments of the of
the global elite, and it was like, you know, these are the
ten basic things that you have to believe without question to kind of be in
that club. Not that believing that makes you a part of that club.
I think, you know, you've got to be recruited out of Harvard Yale,
you know, put into CEO position and whatnot. So I think you
know, it's not like you said at the beginning, it's not a mystery
who we're talking about. CFR has been around for a long time, you
know, Bilderberg's been around for a long time. All that stuff fairly it's
semi public, I guess, is what we could say. They created trilateral
commission for Brazinski to run. That was a Kissinger idea. So we've seen
the passing of that old guard of those guys, but it looks like they
really wanted to kind of hand it over to like tech elites and Silicon Valley
people. That's who was more and more showing up at Bilderberg in the last
eight or ten years. But I don't know how. I don't think that
it's going as well as they thought it would. We'll come to that in
a moment, but briefly, I'd be very interested to know what your ten
the moments al and these people have. But let's let's just just you know
that's that is a question. But it's also another question, which is this
looks like a very very management technocratic, elitist vision. I have to think
that we need to say it's people who believe that they can control everything.
The other thing I wanted to say is it may be logical in its own
terms, but it doesn't seem to me very rational, which is, you
know, maybe I'm making a distinction between the two. I actually do think
the logic and reason are not by any means the same things. But to
me it looks in about frankly completely irrational, as well as bleak and ugly
and lacking any kind of humanity about it at all, and deeply unappealing to
the vast majority of humankind once they've properly understood it. But let's start with
the Ten Commandments, and maybe you can just comment on those other points of
Yeah, I mean that video maybe six years ago, so I don't know
if I remember every single of one of the ten that I listed, but
I think at that time I had read about thirty or forty of the Western
power Block elite texts, and so I just kind of noticed, like,
well, they all kind of seem to say the same thing about you know,
we've got to have They're always say, well, you have to believe
that we're in a giant crisis. There's a huge crisis, and the only
solution to this crisis is a global governance. We can't have nation states or
firewalls of limited power blocks. It's got to be international in terms of its
structure. You've got to have an international economic order, which would then preclude
any types of and I'm not trying to be a libertarian, but I have
plenty of critiques of libertarian philosophy, but that you can't really have a system
of free exchange. So they do want to, I think, ultimately eliminate
that. They talk about a single currency. This goes. You can find
this back in uh Lord Birkenhead, ah C Wells, Virgin of Russell,
all of those old school, you know, sort of British upper structure elite
who had a huge role I think in planning a lot of what we're going
into. In their in their writings, you have to essentially have a commitment
to scientism, to a sort of a Darwinian philosophy of some type. They
seem to be committed to technocratic governance on the whole. I couldn't find any
any member of that superclass that's written that doesn't believe in a technocratic governance.
I don't remember what all the other that there was three or three or four
in war think I think that's the basic and I would get yeah, yeah,
I mean, you know, a couple of books that really lay this
out. I think that are very telling. Is you know, if you
read something like Impact of Science on Society by Russell, which you know is
almost a century old now, and then if you you know, fast forward
up until the you know, Cold War period with something like Tragy and Hope.
The most important chapter and Tragedy and Hope, I've argued for a long
time is the very middle chapter where he talks about technocratic managerial governance of the
future. He says that what the Western power blocks plan is is ultimately basically
have everybody in smart cities and a and giant supercomputers running the city. And
so, you know, he's very explicit there about he thinks that's that's where
we're going. We can come up a few maybe a decade ahead of that
Brazenski Rise, between two ages, the technocratic tech technotronic era, and then
we come up into you know, free toft Copras writing about radical eco type
of stuff. All society has to be reorganized around the principles of Gaya,
of the feminine patriarchy. All of that has to be undermined has to be
inverted in his book, I think his turning point. That's another example,
you know, so that there's many, many of these. There's the changing
images of a man, the Stanford read Search. It also sort of makes
the same point about reorganizing everything on the basis of these new principles, reintroduction
of paganism. This is where we get the New Age movement as a big
part of this foster foisted and fostered by the elite. By the way,
it's not a you know, a grassroots type of movement. It's very much
amenable to the Pentagon's long term plans, I think. And so you know,
then we come up to people like Klaus and he's essentially saying the same
thing that hgu Wells was saying one hundred years before. So I think that's
the basic plan here. I think people get caught up in, well,
is it fully a Marxist plan? You know, the American right mistakenly thinks
that it's quote Marxist. You get other people who think, no, it's
the monopoly capitalist. I really think it's a fusion of a lot of these
different systems into whatever will work in the long run. Well, we had
I was we were talking about logic. I mean, this seems to me
to have the logic of the end cult essentially, and the other thing to
say about it, and it's the immediate instant think. I mean it abolishes
history obviously, that goes without saying, and it creates stagnation. I mean,
it is the end of development, human development. Now human beings.
I thought like this, I mean, we are we're different from each other.
We're not ats, We're different from each other. We are, you
know, function in completely different ways. Function isn't even the right way.
We live in completely different ways. And we have I mean we in spite
of everything, we do have the power of choice, which is inherent to
us as human beings. It's not something they can be taken from us.
So you said that this isn't working. Well, it clearly isn't, because
of course it can't. But the attempt to impose it is doing immense damage.
Absolutely. I think the reason it does this damage is because it's fundamentally
against our nature. You made this point about it's fundamental to humans to have
choice. The Patristic teaching is that free will is a component of human nature,
and so you couldn't have human nature without removing free will, and so
the idea that you could get rid of it really has It demonstrates the presupposition
of a different metaphysic, which of course the power structure does have a different
metaphysics. They see humans as essentially a reductionist materialistic phenomenon that's a product of
the cosmos that can then be sort of steered in terms of evolution and so.
And this is actually pretty explicit as well. Jonah Salk has a book
Survival of the Wisest where he talks in this way that he says that the
scientific priestclass has to really step in and steer humanity and evolution, and that's
going to require things like, you know, really radical Malthusian ideologies. So
the the the implementation of this. Other examples could be things like Tavistock.
Tavistock heavily pushes and was behind all of the I'm going to use my famous
code words here, the T R, A, and Z things that we've
seen in the last ten years, twenty years. They were very bold and
open about spearheading that from a sociological perspective on purpose, and I think that
it makes perfect sense when you think about, well, why would they push
that so hard? Well, that's a very it's very adjacent to the transhumanist
agenda because the idea that we can you know, transcend all the limitations,
including biological limitations and so forth, that very easily transitions into oh, yes,
well, then I can also now become a cyborg. I can become
something beyond the human. There's a really great book that, inadvertently, I
think, admits all this as well. From a journalist perspective, if you
read any Jacobson's book on the history of DARPA. I read the whole thing
lectured through it, and it blew me away because the very last chapter was
where I think she was interviewing or having discussions with some of the transhumanist minded
technocrats at DARPA, and they were very explicit about their philosophy. So you
might think they would be very nerdy and to text stuff, but they were
very explicit that their operating system was a very dogmatic radical materialism. And so
it's almost like at war against the idea that man possesses free will, or
that man possesses consciousness or mind or a soul, because for them that would
necessitate that there might be something else transcendent. So I think the war against
the soul and consciousness ends up almost it almost kind of admitted at times that
it's a war on the idea of God and the transcendent. So yeah,
I think you have to It kind of goes together, right, like if
you're gonna undermine human nature, it kind of goes along with the idea that
we have to stamp out. I think merchant Russal at some point uses this
terminology of stamping out free will or something like that. Indeed, we can't
have humans in the system like this, so we have to find ways to
persuade people not to be humans. Essentially, that is the nature of this,
which ultimately is impossible. Now it is running into problems. Let's actually
talk a bit about this problems we don't We have Russia, which is of
course the country which actually there were quite a lot of people with not entirely
dissimilar ideas, especially if you go back to some of the writings that were
widespread in Russia in the nineteen twenties when there was quite a lot of debate
at that time, but there were you know, a lot of ideas that
were not entirely different from the ones that we are seeing now. And by
the way, people who often in the West today are hailed as great artistic
figures, which I'm prepared to say they were, but they were in many
ways. The Constructivists, for example, were right at the vanguard of this
kind of thing. Anyway, Russia eventually doesn't like it. It moves on,
it's reverting to orthodoxy. It's now a major stumbling block, or so
it seems to me. In front of this thing, pouting himself who's its
president, very connected I think to Russian feeling. He's a post He's straightforwardly
come out and said we don't like this. Other countries are doing the same.
I mean China, not obviously an orthodox Christian country, but with a
tradition and philosophy of its own rootie in Confucianism. They're also coming up opposing
it. In India too. They're not very keen on this, and it's
so difficult to understand why. And we are seeing conflicts flare up in all
parts of the world. We have a major conflict of course in Ukraine.
It's interesting that you brought up the issue of paganism, because people may not
be aware of the fact that there is an awful lot of bit practice at
this particular point in time in Ukraine, and from exactly the kind of people
that you would cool, you know, you'd expect, and who would be
closest to the thinking behind all of this. But one sense is that these
things aren't going very well. And again I'm glad you used the word scientism,
because in reality, if you're talking about science, actual science, the
kind of thing that people used to think of as science, this isn't like
that at all. And in fact we're seeing regression and scientific stagnation beginning to
take hold as well. And in fact, it's clear to me that science
is in fact that the place where it's happening more is in places other than
the West. Partly, I think, as a result of all of this,
So what would you say about this? I mean, are we indeed
seeing this whole thing run into problems? Because I actually I should say,
I don't think this is much traction outside the West at all, and the
rest of the world looking at this, not just Russia, Chamina, India,
but pretty much everywhere ejecting it, Yeah, I think you're you hit
the nail and head there as well as kind of what you said at the
beginning that it's very difficult to push an ideology even with all of this sort
of packaging and near of the promise of of you know, being becoming a
Marvel superhero and transcending limitations. I think when you realize that what's actually being
pushed is you know, destructive to children and having a family, that's where
the rubber meets the road, and that's where people are saying, oh,
wait a minute, Okay, this is this is crazy. This is way
too far. We have enough sense to not allow this into our countries because
it's essentially a weapon that undermines and and really only could be pushed by I
think a sort of psychopathic, oligarchical type of elite you know, not even
not even a we think of the cor corrupt, you know, elite power
structure or something that, or somebody greedy or something. This is almost beyond
that to like just a just a sort of a you know, it's like
O'Brien in nineteen eighty four. With this, this just insatiable hatred for humanity
is what seems to be motivating the ideology of Western technocracy because it it must
push the darkest elements to further the goals, and people are now seeing that.
So I think that the biggest mistake was when it just sort of from
the corporate sort of CEO top down level went wholesale into you know, Skittles,
slash Tira and z agenda. I think that everybody saw that and it
was like, well, wait a minute. You know, first of all,
the shows that we're not really in some sort of free market. If
every fortune one hundred, fortune five hundred company has the same agenda that's pushed,
that has nothing really to do with economics directly. It seems to have
a lot to do with an ideology. And so yeah, that woke a
lot of people up. That shows that it's inherently anti human, ultimately anti
natalist. And you know, you know you mentioned the Ukraine sort of the
push for or these resurgent pagan ideologies. Those also are very amid arguments for
a long time. They're very amenable to what the Western power structure wants to
push because it opens you up, i think, to a return to the
worship of nature, to the worship of the natural cycle, which the people
who go into paganism or neo paganism, and they may not intend this,
but it makes you very amenable to accepting death as a good thing and a
natural thing and something that perhaps should be part of the oligarchical structure's plan.
So now we're moving into the acceptance of something like euthanasia, et cetera.
And we're starting to see that, you know, in places like Canada.
So you see, we agin to see that it's sort of like a death
cult, I guess is the best way to put it. And I don't
think it's accidental that, you know, Tiny Mustache Man and his followers,
you know, they had that same ideology of a kind of a death cult
ideology in the background. And you know, when you get into the history
of the Ukraine, particularly World War two, you get into Gladio, you
get into the Galen networks Galen or that has a connection to the Ukraine at
that time. That's why there's that network there, I think, at least
for my research. And yeah, I see paganism and neopaganism ideology of foisted
there as part of that Western as well as Protestantism, Charismaticism, Eastern Catholicism.
Those are also techniques and tools and strategies of the Western power structure.
Forum University famous Jesuits caa university very closely connected to a lot of these entities
in the Ukraine. That's not accidental, that's all by design. How is
it that we in the West have proved so vulnerable to all of this?
Is it because of the crisis of faith that we have seen developed since the
mid twentieth century? Because there has been a crisis of faith the West of
that, it's indisputable, it's gone very far in Europe, it's reached the
United States. Is that why? Because we've lost faith our own faith?
Is that the vacuum that's been opened that these ideas have been able to fill?
Is it also again we come back to what you were talking about,
you know, neopaganism? Is it? You know, the temptations of hedonism
which do exist as well and are connected to it. It seems to me,
is this why it's happened? Because there doesn't seem to be the resistance
to this in the West that you might have expected. As I said to
the rest of the world, I could say this was some certainty, because
I get lots of people from the rest of the world contacting me and I
read a lot of what they say and what the articles that they write about.
Nothing to see us in the West is very weird. This isn't something
which I think people in the West fully understand, especially policy makers. By
the way, So why are we letting this happen to us? I mean,
one can come up with all kinds of power related reasons and economic related
reasons. But you know, people have pushed back before when all sorts of
things have been done to them. Why are we not doing that much more
than we actually are? Yeah, I think the problem of the West is
a long term spiritual problem, and that's probably a different diagnosis than most people
would give. And probably the easiest, most accessible book on this. And
I don't agree with everything that this author writes, but I think he really
hit on something that a few people notice. As doctor Phillip Cherard has a
really excellent little hunter page book called Church Schism, and he goes back to
the time of the schism between the East and the West, and he really
says essentially that this produces kind of two different Europes. The Europe of the
first millennium that produces Byzantium is a very different idea and ethos than the Europe
that we get after the schism in the West, with what, for all
Inton's purpose, we call the Franco Latin papal Church. And so I'm not
trying to foist everything on the papacy. Obviously life is more complex than that.
But the religious sentiment of the West goes in a very different direction than
the ethos of the Orthodox Church, and what you get there eventually manifests as
a kind of a choice between what you're either going to be a Protestant or
you're going to be a papist, a Roman Catholic. And this if you
go to the Key Disputes and Byzantium where Saint Gregor Palamas is arguing with a
lot of the Western minded thinkers and theologians, the Barleymites, the Acandinos Procuros.
He says, if you adopt this ideology, what will happen is this
theological aberration will result in mass atheism. So very few people will go to
Sant Gregory Palamos to locate I think this prophetic prediction, you know, we're
talking Byzantium in fourteenth century of warning that the West, if it adopted this
theological mistake, that it would lead to mass atheism, but that's exactly what
happened, and so not too long after that. I mean, there's other
really great books as well that the detailed the spiritual ideological. There's a great
book that came out recently by a Cambridge text by Snicia Glue, where he
talks about the ideological subversion within Byzantium itself actually influenced a lot of the Enlightenment
thinkers Spinosa Kant, and then some of the radical jacob and socialists were influenced
by Plethon, and so he locates this this atheistic move that is very similar
to the critiques of Saint Gregor Palmus as well, in this kind of tending
towards atheism, which then manifests in a lot of these dialectical movements from the
Enlightenment onward that we talked about earlier. So I think it's a root a
spiritual problem that leads to theological mistakes, theological errors that then leads to other
ideological errors. So yeah, I think that's the real thing. And it
sounds a little odd because we don't usually think of theology as having that kind
of an effect, but I actually think at root we're all religious beings.
We do kind of operate that way, even if we don't in our conscious
mind think of it that way. I absolutely agree. I mean, I
think that this actually has a huge role to play, and I think if
we don't it, one of the great problems with the study of history in
the West is that he doesn't give enough weight to this sort of thing.
Anyway, We've spoken a lot, and I know those questions, so I'm
going to transfer to Alex here, and I want to first of all say
thank you. We've covered a huge amount of ground. I would hope very
much that we're able to do more programs in the future and explore some of
these points that you've made in a lot more detail, because you know,
we can definitely do that. It seems to me in ways that I think
a lot of people would find very interesting. But this is where I'm going
to finish now, and I want to say thank you, and I going
to hand over to Alex and he'll probably have some questions to put to you.
Thank you very much, Jack, absolutely, thank you. Alijon.
Yes, we do have a lot of questions. And that was a fantastic
discussion, covered a lot of ground. For sure. And let's see what
everyone is asking Jay. Let's start with Ricardo Alfonso cruel fate, Why do
you mock me? You finally have Jay Dyer on and I won't be able
to watch it, But can you guys ask Jay to talk about Gladio and
Intel agencies. He's a great researcher. I'll have to watch later from Ricardo.
Well, yeah, and brief, you know, I've done a few
talks that spend a few hours on Gladio. I've done a few of Lord
Voldemort's Fourth Hour on Gladio, so you could probably find those for more information.
But this is really just a Cold War operation that the members of the
OSS and CI cooked up to supposedly stave off a Soviet invasion of Europe.
So if Stalin decided it supposedly that he would move into Europe, there would
be these cells that were set up all throughout Europe. And as more information
has come out about this over the years. It was first discovered in the
nineties, there were some writers who were already sort of on the cusp of
it even in the eighties, people like David Yallop. But as this came
out, you have people begin to actually write full on examinations of it.
Daniel Ganser wrote basically, what's a PhD thesis on it? And it turns
out this was a much more widespread operation of sort of training saboteurs, assassins
and so forth to be ready for these sorts of operations. And it looks
like they might have even been doing a lot more than that in terms of
actually doing black ops. I think we find things like the Bologna bombing and
so forth having connections to Gladio. And if you read the Paul Williams text,
this really gets into depth with the Vatican Bank, the Vatican Bank being
used as a sort of a funnel for black operations, drug money, weapons
trades, and so forth. So I would recommend either Ganser's book or probably
will Paul Williams book. They both focus on different things. Williams book focuses
on the Vatican element as well as organized crime, the mafia, the P
two lodge in Italy, Lecchio, Gelli, Michelson, Dona Kissing. Williams's
thesis is basically Kissinger was running all of that in Italy, and then you
have the Ganser thesis, focus is more on the different cells and what they
were doing in all the different countries like Turkey. So yeah, this was
a pretty vast, wild, crazy operation that was cooked up I think by
Hello El and Donovan and Engleton from f fits. Hopefully Jay will tell the
audience about the CFR's plans as described by Carol Quigley. Yes, we did
hit that earlier on in terms of and if you're interested in a longer treatise,
I did a whole eight hour or eight section lecture through your Tragy and
Hope, and then I did a to installment lecture through angle American establishment.
I do have his book and Civilizations, but I haven't read that yet.
John Roberts says, my perspective as a citizen of a nation is the globalists
look like a club of the super rich who hire IVY League graduates as their
minions as they obsessively seek to increase their wealth and power. I would concur
yeah. I think if you look at for example, you know, the
OSS and CIA oftentimes recruiting out of for many years at least Harvard and Yale
and Princeton, British Intelligence basically you know, recruiting out of Oxford and Eton
and Cambridge. So yeah, that's that's what we mean by the sort of
recruitment process. It's not limited to intelligence operatives. Obviously, it includes CEOs,
bankers, and as you pointed out, doctors, scientists, mad scientists.
So yeah, I think I think all of these elements are recruited into
that superstructure for sure. G one, g I one four one six.
Question to all of you, to J and Alexander, did you read and
if yes, what did you think of Burnhom's The Machiavelians that I've not read?
I have read it exactly, Okay, Zariel says, JA, they
are very religious, they understand it more than one wants to admit. But
their religion is antichrist. Religion is a human creation, not faith. Yeah,
I think a segment of the power structure, the power Lade definitely do
have religious commandments that they take seriously, but I think many of them don't
so I think, but they all kind of align with a similar game plan.
So you don't have to be religious, I don't think to be a
member of that power structure. Wade asks, outside the most basic natural law,
how does rational man have belief in any mythology, theology? I e.
The miracle problem. Well, a lot of the debates that I do
with atheists we end up kind of in the domain of philosophy, and so
you know, having an assumption or a commitment ahead of time too what's not
possible that's based on a metaphysic. And so what I would do in that
discussion or debate is ask you for an account or justification for your metaphysics that
underlie the assumption that something miraculous or supernatural isn't possible. And if you could
tell me then what the grounding for that metaphysic is then, which I don't
think an atheist or a materialist can. I've not found one yet. But
if you fail at that task, then I would say that the conclusion that
there are no miracles would be unjustified. So that's the transcendental argument for God.
That's the move we make in terms of that apologetic and JJHW says Operation
Gladio. There's a full nineteen two documentary from the BBC, and I'll put
that link in the chat. Sophisticated Cavement says, what is the proper way
to integrate this gnostic technocratic worldview with the rest of the world. I doubt
it's possible to get rid of it entirely. Well, I mean, I
guess from a Christian perspective, there will always be competing systems and ideologies and
heresies and heterodoxies, and so yeah, they may not always ultimately be eliminated
before the end or the esketon, whenever that is. But I'm not sure
why we wouldn't necessarily need to quote integrate it or what that means. It
sounds kind of a Yunian thing. I don't think we need to integrate,
you know, things that are anti human or that undermine civilization, and that's
Belichihab says. I once read in an old Freemasonry manual that the light is
death. That is what the noset teaches us. The manual mentioned Mozart being
a member of the French Lodge, So this is a very old thing.
Yeah, I mean if you look at magic flu right, I mean that's
essentially a kind of a mast Masonic pageant. So yeah, that's definitely I
think the case. But I think there's a lot of different ideas within masonry
as to what the light is and what this or that thing is. You
know, if you look at if you look at morals and dogm. It's
really just a kind of a comparative religion text where he just sort of smashes
all of the religions together and says, there, that's what freemasonry is.
Freemasonry is the true supra religion or philosophy. He says at times, it's
not a religion, even though it kind of is. So I don't think
necessarily that there's there's one ultimate Masonic secret. I see Freemasonry is more of
a tool of the British Empire's era of control. It was kind of their
spy net work. There's public there's mainline histories that have been written about Freemasonry
operating as the kind of the spy network of the British Empire. I don't
think it's as important and influential today as it used to be, But I
do think ultimately it's kind of an esoteric If you read Morals and Dogma,
he kind of goes into positing that it's really neoplatonism or a form of neoplatonism.
It's very similar to what Plethon talked about when I mentioned Plethon earlier.
Jay Alexander, any opinion on UK elite groups like Chatham House, Oh,
absolutely. I mean the CFR, you know, is essentially Pratt House is
based on Chatham House in the UK, and so it's supposed to be the
sort of the US mirror of that. That's the means by which the the
British establishment really sort of put their foot back in the door, so to
speak, of American influence, power and control. I mean they were already
kind of there with Colonel Ewan, mendel House and Woodrow Wilson, but I
think the erection of the OSS via a lot of these British intelligence operatives like
William Stevenson and Noel Coward and even Ian Fleming. You know, that's being
done out of a lot of these you know, New York offices and Rockefeller
Plaza as well as Pratt House, which is the mirror of Chathamhouse. I
have nothing, absolutely nothing to add to that. I mean, these are
this is very much the British establishment and how it works if you see it,
if you see it close up, which of course I have, and
exactly as Jay says, a lot of it has migrated across the Atlantic or
the Pond as we call it, golfrom in London, and it's amazing how
it's taken root. They're actually given how profoundly different American culture is from British
in so many ways, as it's a whole or another whole topic about the
anglicization of a part of the American elite that took place over the course of
the twentieth century, which is very strange and not what I think you would
have expected the beginning of the twentieth century. But it's exactly that a lot
of these things that the Americans developed, a lot of these ideas that the
Americans developed, originate from British discussions and thinking and structures that were developed from
about eighteen ninety onwards, and anyway they've taken brute in the US. Matthew
says, nothing will fire up human resistance more than the erosion of free will.
So while it is scary that these globalist elites exist, there is significant
hope that this will all come crashing down. Yeah, it doesn't really have
anything to offer other than you know, ultimately, you know, get in
your com pod and live in the matrix. I mean, that's the sort
of the end result of this. And I don't think ultimately that will be
I mean, like like Alexander said, we may experience a lot of damage
and destruction on the way to that. You know, end game being pushed,
but I don't think it'll be successful. You have time for a couple
of more questions. Jay, Sure, okay, great slowboy Whiteboard says,
thanks for having Jon. Sparky says, euthanasias pushed in the US as hospice
care. Doctors now talk patients into dying in a hospice where they stay for
a few days and quietly give an overdose of morphine rather than treatment. It's
the primary reason the life expectancies at least a couple of years lower nowadays.
That makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised. I heard somebody talking the other
day. I didn't verify this, but they had said something like upwards of
ten k people have already been sort of goaded into this in Canada, and
that they really started with elderly homeless people. So again I haven't verified that,
but it wouldn't surprise me. It would seem to line up with with
this ideology. Sophisticated cave Men says, what is your view on the Rescrucians?
They had a lot of influence on the Enlightenment. Dame Francis Yates's book
Rosicrucian Enlightenment. It's kind of a classics it's a famous text on that.
I've done some talks on that years ago. So I think that Rosicrucianism is,
you know, it's important ideologically in tracing the development of the Enlightenment.
But I don't find it convincing, and I think it's kind of a ideology
ultimately, all right, and finally from Sparky, A borderless world run by
central authority, Jay, what could go wrong? I see this as one
of the chief weaknesses in the libertarian position. For you know, for so
many years the libertarians have pushed open borders in their crusade against you know,
statism, and now we're at this juncture where I've seen a lot of libertarians
kind of thinking, oh, wait a minute, actually, if we have
completely open borders, this might actually be a problem for the you know,
the system and the welfare system, all this stuff. So yeah, I
don't think that it really is possible to have a totally open borders world.
It doesn't make any sense. Jay Dyer, it's been a pleasure having you
on the Duran. I have all of I will put all of Jay's information
as a pin common down below where you can follow his work. Thank you
very much, Jay for an amazing livestream. Well, hey, I thank
you guys. Can I plug one thing real quick? Absolutely? We will
be at a live event in Las Vegas June twenty second, and our live
events are a combination of kind of real geopolitical discussion. I'm going to be
doing a two hour talk on blackmail, espionage, the Anglo American establishment,
how they operate, jeff Stein mcgeffree style stuff, and then we'll be talking
about films Hollywood and we'll have some comedy there as well. You can get
those tickets on my Twitter which links my event bright So June twenty second in
Las Vegas, June twenty second, Las Vegas. I will have Jay's Twitter
link. It's in the description box right now, and I will also add
it as a pin comment. Thank you very much, Jay, Absolutely,
thank you guys. As an honor, thank you, thank you very much.
Jan Thanks have a good one. Thank you, Honor Reason. I
was thank you, wow wow, Alexander, that was great listening to you
and Jay. Thank you. But it was a wonderful program. I thought
I thought it was fascinating. I think, you know he the discussion went
very well. Actually, just just to make one quick observation, after I
spoke to him about the what what the archbishop archivisionallygorious by the way said to
me about people who aspire to be more the more than human becoming less so
and talking about film in Hollywood, he actually made exactly the point that Jay
Dying made that this is that this goes completely contrary to the whole nature of
the mission of Christ of Jesus, which was precisely to become human. It's
exactly the same point. Yeah, well, I mean, you know,
Jesus, I just wanted I wanted to say that on that I didn't want
to you know what it would be, I would be really exactly that boy
is just yeah, yeah, it would be a little bit off off topic
for for us as the Durand. But because Jay has written books on Hollywood
and I don't know people that have been watching the channel, no, no,
you're your interest in and expertise in in cinema. That would be a
great a great stream. Maybe one day, one day, when if when
when if the news the news cycle comes down a bit, maybe we could
we could put together a live show that's that's focused on that. If would
join us, that would be a fun absolute live stream. Yeah it would
indeed. All right, let's uh, let's answer the remaining questions. Alexander,
absolutely call it a night. Let's see Philip. Welcome to the DURAN
community. Ruby Appel says, thank you both for your great videos and keeping
us in touch with reality. Thank you. Nikos k and one two five
says Duran. I suffer from depression. So maybe that's why I now believe
that no matter the outcome in Ukraine, the world will end in nuclear hell
fire. If there's more, Alexander, NATO will never leave Russia despite what
you or they say. The elites don't care if they cause nuclear war,
They'll be in their bunkers while we suffer. People ignore the communism degrading our
culture and the support of the neo and his eyes. I guess my question,
Duran is what's the point of doing what you do right? Well,
I come back to the point I make many times, which is the despair
as a bad counselor if we will give way to despair, then well the
other side wins, and all the bad things that you talk about will undoubtedly
happen if we push back. Obviously we by ourselves already a manuscule part of
it. But if we push back, and if other people push back,
then there's a chance, and if had a probability, that it will be
stopped. So there's no point in giving way to despair now. As a
theological matter, and you know, since we've been doing a lot about theology,
I should say that within Orthodoxy, despair is often seen as the state
of sin because it despairs of God's creation, which is of course the world
in which we live, and we should not despair in what God has made.
I agree. Please don't be sad about everything that's going on in the
world. We'll make that through. Nikos also says off topic, I know
alex watches the Critical Drinker. Alex have you considered doing a video with nerd
Rotic on F and T Vivic appeared there. I think you can. I
don't know what F and T is, Alexander, but once again on film,
nerd Rotic and Critical Drinker are us on YouTube film critics, so we
would love to have them on the show. I mean talk about cinema.
That would be great. Yeah, but let's Let's let's see how the news
cycle goes, and maybe one day we could we could have a show like
that. It would be our honor to have neurotic and critical drink around the
show. Sneedle gifted us Durand memberships. Welcome Snitle to the Durandle also says,
given that the West's diplomatic, financial, military moves all appear to be
pushing bricks together and causing the West to lose, is it possible that this
is the intent of those who hold sway? Interesting question, you know,
you know, we have this question often in various forms. If they are
actually intentionally creating a situation where the West loses and the bricks consolidate and all
of that, then they're not only irrational, but they're illogical as well.
They've all lost all touch with reality because of course, what they're doing is
undermining the very power structure which makes them powerful. So I come back to
the point. Maybe, I mean, I'm assuming that you're not suggesting that
these people deliberately actually do want the bricks and the other side to win,
but you know that they feel that if they sow the chaos, they will
be able to ride the whirlwind they won't. They'll be swept away. So
that is the way it always works. That is the historical truth. That
is historical truth. And of course history doesn't always repeat itself, but it
often rhymes. I am Valentina says, will Palestinians ever be free? Yes?
I think they will. I think at one somehow or rather some way
or rather something will happen and they will be free. There will be a
system that they will They will have again that freedom to which all people of
all rate, of all nations and all religions are entitled. O. G.
Wall says, good day, Andre's welcome to the direct community. Sesha,
thank you for supersticker that Anna, thank you so much for that amazing
super chat than for that. Sparky says a borderless world run by central authority
will go wrong. We answered that. Garland Nixon, he little Garland says,
free Assange. Absolutely absolutely, Indeed, we'll see what happens and how
it works out. We're all waiting to see what the High Court does in
London. M gel Mibsen says, Alex Hexagon shout out a young British lad
who makes awesome videos about all these topics. EU globalism. W ef et
cetera, give him a visit. Alex Hexagon for that says love to the
Duran family. Sparky says, great to see the great Garland Nixon in the
audience. Awesome agreed, Sir Muggs. Game says, what has five eyes
yet is legally blind? The Anglo American Intelligence UK brilliant. Sparky says globalism
goes against human nature. Peg says the US unsanctioned the largest Russian banks for
energy related trades until the election, all while claiming to sanction China because it
trades with Russia and the industrializing EU with nord Stream. I think we're going
to do a program about that, Alex and I miss facare thing. It
shows, First of all, it shows how important the election is and how
difficult the election is becoming, and the fact that the people in the White
House are becoming increasingly scared and increasing nervous that things are not going that way.
But you're absolutely right. You threaten the Chinese banks with sanctions, you
relax the sanctions on the Russian banks. We've had a statement from a House
of Commons Select committee that sanctions are a total fail, so we must increase
and tiden up even further the sanctions. I mean, the whole thing is
so completely lacking in any kind of logic anymore that you know it's well,
words fail me to describe what an absolute message become. Valerie says, Oh,
I'll read that to you after the Sharks. It's about the channel.
I don't want to see it on this show, sorry, Valerie. Sir
muggs Game says, we have from river to the the bridges of the Napier
River, and all the while mister Putin is being a river to his people.
Okay, Agu says globalist opposed nationalism in Russia and China. Why then
did they fight the lablique theory. It was an opportunity for them to blame
China and ask for reparations. Well again, I mean, don't look for
logic these people, That's all I can say. Yeah, Cheribo says our
Na culture wars a prelude to an Anglo Saxon meat grinder, or are we
safe from the playbook used abroad because we embrace globalism in open borders? Well,
I think that eventually globalism is going to come back to haunt us in
the West very badly. Indeed, said what he's doing is it's uniting the
rest of the world ultimately against us, because we see it as weird and
disruptive and aggressive and injurant and arrogant all at the same time. And people
are having enough and we are becoming isolated as people want to have as little
to do with us as they can. Valerie says, love the deraim the
ideal company. I would keep compassionate, knowledgeable, reasonable, Christian. Hopefully
our paths cross one someday. Absope so too, Valerie, thank you for
that. Martin M. D l says, is economic collapse an accident dollar
not global reserve currency? Bring in CBDCs engineered by Biden economic advisors Lael Brainard,
Jared Bernstein, leaving wealthy elites and people in poverty. Right. Well,
this is actually an important point because, of course, always what happens
in economics is down to human action. It's always important to remember that what
goes on in the human economy is entirely a creation of human beings. In
a sense, it is artificial, but it doesn't necessarily follow that it is
planned by one group of individuals. So I don't think that they are planning
an economic collapse in fact, if you look at the way in which they,
the people in control in the United States, are behaving, they're trying
to prevent one. They're trying to avert one. They're trying to push it
back, but of course they're doing it in a way that risks making it
more likely because at the same time that they want to avert an economic collapse,
they also want to retain control, and the mechanisms that they use in
order to retain control ultimately undermine the foundations of the economy. So that's why
you have corporatism, that's why you have all of these control mechanisms that Jay
was talking about within the economy. Instead a bit of functioning more smoothly and
more efficiently as they pretend, imbalances and problems build up, which is what
we're actually seeing. Dave Shaw, Welcome to the drowned community. Sir mugs
game says, here is wisdom. Put me not into the hands of any
human protection, oh our lady most holy lined from Greek Orthodox but iglsies to
the Theotokos. Very simple. Thank you for that, Sir Mug's game.
Let's see here, sophistic we did that one a niece. We answered that
as well Communism Incorporated Alexis, could you both please look at China's new revised
company law. It may fundamentally restructure China's business governance. I'd love your thoughts
on its implications in a separate episode. I'd be very interested to see it.
Actually, when I was in China in twenty seventeen, I spent a
lot of time with a banker there and a non Chinese banker, and an
awful lot to tell me about Chinese cat company law, and I'd be very
interested to see how it's changing. Nikos Ti says regarding the end of times,
could the Antichrist come from Russia? On some issues? She aligned with
globalism, digital money, The West is damned anyways, the devil's goal would
be to lead us orthodox astray. I think that it is not within our
ability to predict where such a person or being would come from. I think
that is something that we do not have the capacity to know. Jeff Bickford
think if that supersticker Sparky says, many patients who could be cured or at
least treated and given many more good years end up dying in hospice. In
the US, the push seems to happen in the last decade. Well that's
I'm not familiar with the situation in the US. But if we're talking about
euthanasia, the campaign for it in Britain is also very strong, and you
know, you find all the usual suspects advocate who you would expect to advocate
for it actually doing so. And it is true that life expectancy is starting
to fall in Britain, though I don't know whether that correlates with the spread
of this thing. EU Tech Health says by twenty to fifty, Europe and
North America will be down to three hundred million and two hundred million, respectively.
If China and India makeup, that is two point eight billion against five
hundred million. He has right about it being a deathicult, psychotic. Western
societies are dying at a rapid rate. China and Russia never had to go
to war. Oh yeah, we'll see. I mean, let's just be
clear. I mean, but Russia and China have demographic issues of their own.
I think in Russia, unlike US in the West, they are working
towards developing family oriented policies. What they're doing in China, I have no
idea Tabernac says, when new process fails us we really live in error.
Absolutely completely agree. Zariel says this was fantastic. Think you both so much,
okay, Zariel. Jerry says, what's a good objective biography on Putin?
There isn't one short answer. I mean there really isn't. I mean
I've heard of ones that are better and others that are worse. Yes,
but a really good biography of Poutia doesn't exist, at least not in mind.
Toby Clear says serious deep truth seekers encouraged to find and try the Masters
in the Path by C. W. Ledbetter nineteen twenty five pdf, or
any by Alice A. Bailey or Benjamin Krimm. Thank you for that,
Toby Darren Levy says, could you guys do a vid on the political crisis
around Spain's Prime minister's wife? Is it law bear or is there grounds to
go after her? Well? I think it's definitely a program we need to
do, and to answer the question, I need to look into it in
more detail, but definitely something we need to discuss. Tabernac says, all
three societies have started with one premise. Human nature is cruel, unjust a
force to be controlled. Chaos justifies all needs to restore order. I think
the thing that all societies it brings us back to the importance of due process.
That all systems of law recognize is that human nature is capable always of
error, and the nature of due process is that it recognizes that fact.
That's why it exists. It doesn't at least, legal systems have always been
mistrustful of any idea of humans being able to make infallible decisions by themselves.
And the fact that due process has gradually been torn up and demolished in the
West, which it is, by the way, is a reflection again of
the fact that some people think that they know the answers and can simply impose
them, and that they don't want to have due process get in the way.
Colorado Watch says, nobody gets off this train until the locomotive stops.
That's a quote from Douglas McGregor Colorado Watch. Thank you for that. Zarael
says, one man made a change, we can follow him. Nick coriol
says, thoughts on the pro Palestinian protests in the USA, They're a huge
issue. I'm going to be speaking with somebody who's in contact with what's been
going on in these protests. I think it's important to get a little bit
more because there is so much information and for all I know, misinformation about
it that I'd like to get a bit closer to it. They're making huge
impact, by the way, to my knowledge, within British universities. But
as I said, I'd like to get a little bit closer to this,
and since Columbia University is at the center of all of this, into the
news reports. But it's very interested to know what Professor Sachs has to say
about all the same thing. Yeah, Matthew says that discussion hosted on this
channel are a tanic. Discussions hosted on this channel. Sam Whiskey says,
if the West is Carthage, will that make Russia the Roman Republic? We'll
see. I think that we shouldn't press these analogies too far. The Romans,
by the way, spoke about the Carthaginian curse, because of course what
happened was that Rome defeated Carthage and then went back on agreements that it had
made with Carthage and destroys it. And some Romans of an old fashioned type
felt that that was the beginning of the Republic's decline and was what eventually led
to its fall and its replacement by the Empire. So I think, you
know, the Rush and Russia today probably would not want to go there,
having already you know, escaped its own sort of imperial mission. I think
it would probably not want to go back to it. Jerry Cogan says future
guest suggestion, doctor Vladimir. Okay, thank you for that. Jerry Sparky
says protests in the US are becoming heavily infiltrated by the FEDS, with many
agent provocateurs and crisis actors appearing on both sides, so to sew chaos and
violence. You're You're absolutely right, which is exain one reason why I'd like
to get closer to get some more information about what is actually going on,
because there's a huge amount of manipulated information about all of this. There is
someone I know who is I'm hoping to get in touch with who should be
able to tell me a lot more. And as I said, I come
back to this professor, this is Professor sachs Is University. I'll be very
interested to know what he has to say. Iu Techal says, Jay,
do you think the pop the population is a China strategy. So the w
EF, WHL gates, DuPonts at all are actually working for China's interests?
Are they the only ones who will win? In the Western the pub destruction?
The Chinese government, in my opinion, at this particular moment in time,
very earnestly wishes that they had not done what they did in terms of
their one child policy, or or at the very least hadn't kept it going
for as long as they did. So I think that they greatly regret it
now and are trying to find means to reverse it now. Whether or not,
you know, giving advice to all the d WF people to repeat that
in the West, I don't think so. I think all of these people
actually do what they do because they see it just being in their own interests.
Yea and eutech Health says US and EU moved to a grain based diet
fast food, also corn and bread. Post World War two, people would
eat mainly meat and vegetables, jabs, GMO, unnecessary pesticide. It's funny
if individuals which just stop eating bonded sugars, grains, seed walls, et
cetera, they would live to be one hundred. That's a huge subject which
I have Mediterranean diet. I just say the best. I completely agree.
Communism Incorporated says atheism is merely the lack of belief in one less God.
I respect Christians, but I cannot accept the proposition of original sin that lie
at its core. I instead place faith in daring, compassion and love.
I'm not sure that original sin is it's called, but that's a theological discussion.
We will have another day, Kenneth, thank you for that. Super
chat Elsa says, I'm confused. Last year we were told that the West
can't find Russia's money. They wanted to cease. Have they found the assets
now? Yeah? I think I think there was a lot of misdirection there.
Clearly they haven't found it all, but clearly a large part of it,
a large chunk of it was there in Europe, clear and they always
knew it was there. So, I mean, you know, there was
an awful lot of misdirection. I'm not quite sure why it was done,
but that's the truth about it. Well. I was reading an article actually
yesterday on this topic Alexander, and they were saying that the EU was pressing
the banks very hard to disclose a lot of the information and the way money
was moving. And at first the thanks were resistant, but eventually they disclosed
everything. Right, Yeah, they crumbled. So that's why we got a
little bit more clarification as to where the money was. That's what I That's
what I read just the other day. Sir, Sir muggs Game says,
Alexander, did you ever have the honor of meeting the Late Greek Orthodox Bishop
of Oxford Carlistos where he has amazing lectures on YouTube? No? I didn't.
I never have, partly because I was obviously focused in London and answering.
Gregorious was a personal friend and before that a friend of my father's,
so that's how I got to know him, and I got to know him
very well. Eric, thank you for that supersticker. Kenneth says, any
chance to have Anna's alagi? Michael Jordan of Oil and Gas and Energy explains
Nuance about Warren and energy sectors, including sanctions and so on. Well,
that's an interesting topic and yes, I mean if this question is an expert,
and that might be a very interesting person to actually speak with. Actually,
if I just can go back to the previous question, I mean,
there is a very, very large English Orthodox community in Oxford, which is
might be a surprise to some people, but you know, there is a
significant population of Orthodox Converts in Oxford, including some connected to the university and
within the Church of England. There's been a significant interest in Orthodoxy for some
time now. Eu tech Health says, okay, last one. I have
the personal belief that Putin attack the Ukraine just to belittle the West. He
is a genius strategist, but analyzing what he does not do, it really
looks like he was just proving the West to be weak. Common statement in
Russia. I don't think so. I think that if you actually follow what
Putin said and what he was doing, I think it was a decision he
absolutely didn't want to take. I think he was massively stressed and unhappy when
he took it. I think he felt he had to take it because it
was the only way in which he could safeguard Russian security and protect Russians in
Ukraine. It was, as I said, I think he felt he was
being led into a trap. He wasn't sure how the Russian people would react,
he wasn't sure how the Russian economy would react. And he said that
himself, and I think he's been astonished that things have turned out from his
point of view as well as they have. Scordo says another great another guest
suggestion, Ragaza mah Adak from the at mahmud Od channel. Right, thank
you for that. Tabernac says, what goals does he intend to accomplish in
Europe? Et cetera? Who so, who intend to accomplish? Oh?
Right, Well, I think look, he's coming to He's coming to Hungary,
Serbia and France. So he's he's coming to support Urban and the Serbs
at a time when they're under an awful lot of pressure. Very interesting that
he's done that, and something that's going to annoy the EU leadership and the
US and the Germans intensely, by the way, just saying, and he's
also going to speak to Macron because he had a reasonably productive discussion with Macron
last year, and I think I think he's wrong on this by the way
that I think he hopes that Macron isn't quite yet a lost cause. So
I think that's why he's coming the last cast, lost cast, the flip
flop and lost cast. Eric think for that supersticker Sam Whisky says, how
will sanctions affect the International Space Station? Oh, I think it's almost to
an end. I mean, the Chinese and the Russians are moving in their
own directions, So it's the US at the moment. It just about holds
together. But I mean I think that that whole period of it is gradually
going away. Sir most Game says a river to my people, one of
the famous lines from the film Lawrence of Arabia. Yeah, sophisticated Cavement says
Jay identified the Orthodox Catholic schism as a fundamental cause of the current problems.
How do you reconcile the fact that the Enlightenment originated from the Western Catholic lineage.
Well, this is a huge subject, and I don't have Jay Jay's
erudition to be able to discuss this. I think I get to say this,
and this is a controversial thing. I think, suspect I'm going to
say, but I think that Catholicism encouraged a degree of intellectualism, in other
words, attempts to second guest God, as the Orthodox pointed out, which
opened the way for enlightenment thinking, because trying to second guest God, trying
to guess what he's trying to do, trying to understand what he is trying
to do is by definition beyond human ability, and that is what inexorably led
to the Enlightenment and probably was what Gregory of Parlamas was warning about. Sir
most Games says, looks like the Russians have incorporated the famous quote you can
move everything, just not all at the same time. Absolutely, they're they're
approaching this wall. If I could just say in a very rational way this
saying David David says, apartheid Elon Musk is the biggest welfare recipient of the
US government. To look it up, okay, Martin Medal says, thank
you for what you both do for us. Thank you. Martin MVP says,
do you think Larry Johnson's presentation at the UN will prompt an investigation in
the North Stream pipeline. I think. I think the points that he made,
which were brilliant by the way and superbly set out, are precisely the
reason why we're not going to get an investigation of the events and the North
Stream pipeline, because, as he absolutely rightly said, all the evidence points
in one direction, and that person who it points to it has a vtail
on the Security Council. David David says apartheid musk South Africa likes to coop
Native American president ever Morales Olivia to steal their Lithio. We coop whoever we
want, Okay, David. Here it says nature is God. Benedict de
Spinosa Basil Beshka says, does macroon have a Napoleon complex called Russia? Yes,
in a word, he's obsessed by Russia. By the way, it's
widely I've forgotten that Putin was one of the first people he invited to France.
And the whole visit by Putin to France at the time, which is
I believe in twenty fifteen, is just astonishing. It really is incredible to
see how Macron was treating Putin and lecturing him and trying to get Putin to
understand the genius and brilliance of Napoleon. Macrol Reza, thank you for that
awesome super sticker. And finally onceec Alexander man O man Zero, thank you
for that super chat. And George d says, can you get Usi Kozak
on the show last week mark five hundred days of asylum in the Russian embassy
as the Australian government wants to lock him up for journalism. I didn't know.
I knew nothing about the story. Okay, well, thank you for
that, George. Well we'll try. Yeah. Elsa says macron is a
synonym for hopeless. Case that true, Alexander final thoughts. Let me do
a final check and make sure we got all the questions. Any final thoughts
as we wrap up. Oh, I think I think we need to have
Jay on again. That's that's my final part about this. Its I we
just touched the surface. There's so much more to say and discuss with him
about these things, And I mean it's these kind of discussions and conversations are
necessary again. Once upon a time, when great events happened, people did
look below the surface and did talk about the kind of things we talked about
in this program. The fact that we don't do that anymore is perhaps one
of the reasons why we are in the mess we're in. So it's good
that we should have programs like this, and I hope we have another one
with Jason. Yeah. Colorado Colorado Watch says I should have studied more foreign
policy at university Russian studies CIA recruited at my university, by the way,
so true center at my university as well, there were six was heavily involved
recruiting people who did Rutian studies. Of that they kept very clear of me,
by the way, which won't surprise you and BP asks we actually got
this question well Larry John's presentation at the un prompt in investigation about north Stream.
I've got that question. Nope, nope, who could have done it
anyway? All right, Alexander, that's the that's the stream. Thank you
once again to Jay Dyer. I will have Jay's information as a pin comment
and I also have his links in the description box. Right now, Alexander,
that was a great live stream. Thank you to everyone that was watching
us on Rockfin Odyssey, Rumble YouTube and the durand dot locals dot com.
And thank you to our moderators Vally Yes, thank you, Valis, Peter,
Thank you Peter. I think I saw Tish also in the stream.
Thank you, Titian's r L. Thank you Ril. And I think that's
everyone that was moderating this live stream. All right, take care everybody.
Mm hmm.