1 00:00:05,799 --> 00:00:14,439 Okay, we are live with Alexander Merkurtis. Are you doing, Alexander, 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,039 I'm doing very well. I'm very happy to be here with Jay, especially, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,800 as I said, in this week of all weeks, when the Orthodox 4 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:29,160 people celebrate Easter. It's obviously at a different time from the West and Easter, 5 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:33,920 but you know, us three Orthodox people, this is an important week 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,840 for us, and we are very happy to get someone who has been the 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,920 most requested guest, or at least potential guests have on the durand we finally 8 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,280 got him, mister j Dyer. Jay, it is great to have you 9 00:00:51,359 --> 00:00:54,320 on the Durand finally, how are you doing today? I'm doing great. 10 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:57,000 And yeah, like I said, I'm honored to be with you. Guys 11 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:00,320 been watching for a long time, so yeah, it's kind of real, 12 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,240 but yeah, I'm happy to be here. It's great to have you here. 13 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:07,359 And Jay, I have in the description box your Twitter as well as 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:14,519 your YouTube. Where else can people follow your work? I have a website 15 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,120 jaysonalsis dot com, and you can get all my stuff there too, all 16 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:23,439 the backlogs of the archives of interviews and lectures that I've done for the last 17 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:25,840 ten years or so. So everything's at the website, at the shop, 18 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,000 get my books there and all that and pretty much anywhere else. If you 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,719 just type in Jay Dyer, Instagram or whatever, you'll find me great. 20 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:37,359 I will have those links as a pin comment down below. When the stream 21 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:41,680 is over, let's say a quick hello to everyone that is watching us on 22 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Rockfinn, on Odyssey, Hello to everyone on Rumble, our awesome community. 23 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:53,799 On locals, how's anyone doing in the locals chats? And a big hello 24 00:01:53,879 --> 00:02:00,280 to YouTube as well. Zariel, what is up? Peter? How you 25 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:06,680 doing? Peter? My friend and Zariel Peter. I think it's us three. 26 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:10,439 We will be moderating for now this live stream. Let me see is 27 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,080 anybody else? I think it's us three? All right, No worries, 28 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,520 No worries. Aariel, Peter and myself moderating a lot of questions came in 29 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:23,560 before the stream. We will get to all those questions. We'll try to 30 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,080 get to those questions for Jay towards the end of the stream. Alexander, 31 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Jay, let's talk about globalism. Alexander indeed talking about globalism, because of 32 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,759 course globalism has been one of these things, one of these topics that people 33 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,680 have been talking about an awful lot in the last twenty years, thirty years 34 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:51,800 or so. Basically, it really began to be talking about after the end 35 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,719 of the Cold War. A lot of people initially discussing it very much as 36 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,879 a kind of economic relationship, the fact that you know, people countries would 37 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:08,439 be able to trade with each other in an uninterrupted way. That was how 38 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:14,639 as I remember, it was initially presented that we would have the global economy 39 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:22,800 come together become integrated in that fashion. And of course that all sounded very 40 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,199 innocuous, and it was so inocuous. It was basically banal because the global 41 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,599 economy has been integrated together since at least the mid nineteenth centuries. Any economic 42 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,759 historian would know. So why was that different? Well, I think it 43 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,199 gradually and clearly became obvious that what we were talking about was something very different. 44 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:50,479 It was just a trading system and an economic system. It was also 45 00:03:50,599 --> 00:04:00,639 a philosophical and political and ideological system that was beginning to develop, and it 46 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:05,120 was one that was being very very strongly advocated by a small group of very 47 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:11,400 influential and very powerful people. And saying that, you know, one has 48 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:14,439 to be clear, you know, they do come together, they do meet. 49 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,720 We're not, however, talking about, you know, a kind of 50 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:24,720 James Bond Specter type organization, if only because what they do and what they 51 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:30,319 say they do and say in clear view, they make no attempt these people 52 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,279 that were talking about to conceal in any way what they're about. Well, 53 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:40,000 one person who has been keeping a close eye on all of this and has 54 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,360 been talking about it for a very long time and has been I think it's 55 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 fair to say critical of it, and critical of it not just because it 56 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,959 leads in all sorts of very bad directions, which I think it does, 57 00:04:53,639 --> 00:05:01,040 but also because it is fundamentally unsustainable and its concept, the whole conception behind 58 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:08,279 it is one of control, which is unsustainable. One person who's been talking 59 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,000 about it is Jay Dying, And Alex said that nobody, no guest, 60 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,000 have we been asked to invite more than Jay. And I'm sure this is 61 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,560 partly why, because you can take us through and discuss this with us in 62 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,000 a way that I think no one else can. So. Jay, what 63 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:28,680 is globalism? Let's start with that. I don't mean, you know, 64 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,480 with the international global economic system, which has existed since the mid nineteenth century. 65 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:41,519 I'm in the ideology the plan. I think plan is not too far 66 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:47,720 fetched a word, the plan that we have seen develop over the last thirty 67 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:54,959 years. And who is behind it two colossal questions. But we've only got 68 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,079 a limited amount of time with you, so let's go. Let's go straight 69 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,040 in and let's start with globalism itself. What is it? Yeah? I 70 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,600 like that you mentioned that there was this sort of selling point some decades ago 71 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,079 after the Cold War, that under the guise of economics, we might achieve 72 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:17,879 this new peaceful order. And I want to go to a place that probably 73 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:21,680 not many people would expect. And if you go back to the Enlightenment, 74 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:27,639 there's a little known treatise that Emmanuel Kant wrote that I think is very influential, 75 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,319 and he wrote in that treatise that when we had full on Eliza, 76 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,639 fair, free trade, etc. When that was fully realized, we would 77 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:41,399 have what he basically calls a new world order and a kind of global peace 78 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,720 based around homo economicus that man seen only as an economic unit. I viewed 79 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,480 in that way, and if understood in that way, if that's the case, 80 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:54,240 which I think they just all sort of assumed at that time, David 81 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Ricardo and Adam Smith and all these characters that really that would be the way 82 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,519 that we would achieve this future order. They had a lot of opposition from 83 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:09,959 what I believe was kind of their dialectical opposition as Western ideology progresses towards the 84 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,560 rise of things like socialism after the Jacobins and the communists to come about, 85 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,959 and I think that the idea was that this dialectical conflict would produce this again, 86 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,319 this eventual peaceful order. So I think they had a lot of true 87 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,199 believers on both sides of the conflict, whether they were dialectical materialists historical materialists, 88 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:35,519 or whether they were libertarian anarcho capitalists or monopoly capitalists, all of those 89 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:39,199 things coalesced. One of the key texts that, you know, kind of 90 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,759 two texts actually that form my approach to this question was the writings of doctor 91 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,519 Carrol Quigley, both his Tragy and Hope and his book Anglo American Establishment. 92 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:53,439 I think they give kind of an inside view. I apologize with the coughing, 93 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,800 I it's the allergies are terrible here, but in both of those books 94 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,720 he really just lays out what you're talking about, this inside view from the 95 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:09,120 perspective of entities like the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission their view 96 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,560 Builderberg Group could be another one of these big steering committees. The view of 97 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:18,959 the thing tanks and the NGOs and the power players in the Western Anglo sphere, 98 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,319 the Atlantis's power block, what they felt like would be the hope for 99 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,920 the world. And I like that you pointed out it's much more than just 100 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:33,600 an economic system. Even though I think the original idea was that the philosophy 101 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:37,679 of liberal economics that that would be the means the mechanism, it ends up 102 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,960 being much more than that. It ends up being an ideological commitment and ultimately 103 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,000 even a kind of a technology I think, to subvert and transform anything that 104 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:54,639 opposes it. And then I'll end with this point. And again, doctor 105 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Quigley's books are not conspiracy texts. They're apologetics for this approach. He argues 106 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,799 that the tragedy of the last century was the Two World Wars. The hope 107 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,000 is the democratic capitalist, the liberal order that would be then preferred and promoted 108 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,720 and sort of almost mandated, I guess you could say, on the entire 109 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:18,879 world. And so is that really a solution? Is it really you know, 110 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,200 the final stage of fuki Yama type stuff. I don't think so. 111 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:28,919 I think it's unsustainable. And he says basically that the two enemies that would 112 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:35,600 have to be combated by the Atlantis's establishment would be Austro Hungarian Empire and Russia. 113 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,159 These two would have to be taken out. It's a sort of continuation 114 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,600 of the Great Game. And that's what it is that's we're living out. 115 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:50,879 I think that world that reality right now as we see this conflict through both 116 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:56,399 the Middle Eastern conflicts and the conflict in the Ukraine, they both kind of 117 00:09:56,399 --> 00:10:01,679 reflect the older British imperial strategy and structure, going back to mckender and people 118 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,960 like that. So that's what we're living through. It is that that's the 119 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,279 hope according to the atlanticis establishment. But ultimately I think that's pretty deceptive. 120 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:15,639 The hope is very much tied to Malthusian ideology. They cloak that in a 121 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:20,080 lot of humanitarian in Gio, it has this humanitarian cloak that's really pushing a 122 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,519 lot of subversive ideas in all these other countries. Indeed, I like the 123 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:31,720 word you use mandatory. We mandated this change would be mandated, and of 124 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:37,159 course you mentioned that you know, this is all about democratic liberalism, all 125 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:45,399 of this, but ultimately there's not going to be very much choice for people. 126 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:50,919 This is ever imposedness in this way. So of course democracy, at 127 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,120 least as I understood it, understand it. You know, we are Greeks, 128 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,960 I was, I'm born in Athens, where we like to think democracy, 129 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,679 see it was invented. That's a questionable view, by the way, 130 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,919 but anyway, we like to think that democracy in fact very inherently involves choice. 131 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:16,600 And this system, ultimately, despite the fact that it's always promoted as 132 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:22,720 being intended to spread democracy, to me, it looks very much like it's 133 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,559 there to abolished choice. It's the system you have to have. You're not 134 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:41,519 really permitted to argue for alternatives. And you're also told always that seeking the 135 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:48,039 best economic outcome, which is a questionable concept in itself. What is the 136 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,519 best economic outcome, the most efficient one? That that is the objective that 137 00:11:52,559 --> 00:12:01,480 one should always follow. So economic, the quest for narrow economic efficiency should 138 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:09,799 be the objective. And well, a system that ultimately a bullish's choice is 139 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:15,240 the goal. Now, have I got this wrong and you know what I've 140 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:18,320 just said about it, No, I think it lines up perfectly with the 141 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:24,799 idea of homo economicus. Man is essentially an interchangeable economic unit. The locus 142 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:30,879 of human action and purpose is the marketplace. This is a very you know, 143 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:37,759 Enlightenment based idea. I think we're still sort of manifesting. I guess 144 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,840 the process of the Enlightenment in the West and where it's where the bad places 145 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:48,559 it might actually take us as we work out kind of the logical consistencies are 146 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,960 actually inconsistencies and a lot of the philosophies of the Enlightenment. That's my take 147 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,360 on it. I think you're absolutely right that, you know, the idea 148 00:12:56,519 --> 00:13:03,399 of you know, Athenian democracy is very different from what today's you know, 149 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:09,399 think tank based technocracy is using democracy as a cloak for For example, the 150 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:15,720 best example of this is jacque Attalie's book Brief History of the Future. There's 151 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:18,480 a whole chapter towards the end of the of the book where he says that 152 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:24,279 the spearhead of today's democracy, that today's revolution, the people's revolution, he 153 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:30,679 says, is that is transhumanism. And so there's this sort of ironic anti 154 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:35,039 human empathus. He's basically saying, to become post human, that's really the 155 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,799 tip of the sphere of democracy, which is again it's very odd. But 156 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:41,960 if it's not odd, if you you know, take to heart the point 157 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,159 that you're making here, which is that you can be The desire to transcend 158 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,159 the boundaries of being human and the limitations that we have actually ends up coming 159 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:56,639 out the other side and becoming something that becomes anti human. So we get 160 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:01,840 anti natalism, we get the Malthusian ideas, we get this anti human impetus. 161 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Again is the essence of this philosophy because man is seen as a reductionist 162 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:16,000 economic unit. He doesn't have any transcendent value or anything to give him, 163 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,159 you know, so called rights. You think of an Enlightenment philosophy of rights, 164 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:24,120 well, if man is just a kind of a meat sack, there's 165 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,279 not really a basis philosophically speaking, to have rights other than the rights accorded 166 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:33,399 via some sort of technocratic superstate. And again, I think that's the real 167 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,879 danger, is that the ultimate goal if you look at even a book as 168 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:45,639 unsuspecting like Miles Copeland's book Game of Nations, whereas a CIA consultant, he's 169 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:54,639 essentially revitalizing and changing at least two governments. He talks about both Syria and 170 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:58,519 Egypt in that book as a consultant to modernize those governments, and he says 171 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:01,559 that, look, if you want to understand what all we're up to, 172 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,559 it's not about this or that weapons transfer, this black op. He says, 173 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,120 you need to understand the big picture. And he says you need to 174 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,600 go read people like James Burnham in The Managerial Society. He says, you 175 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,600 need to go read Bertrand Russell. You need to read the Council on Foreign 176 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:18,399 Relations documents. There's a whole appendix at the back of that book where he 177 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,360 says, that's if you really want to stand what the CI is up to, 178 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,240 it's that kind of stuff. It's not you know this or that black 179 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:28,480 op. I think that perfectly encapsulates the attitude and the perspective of what you're 180 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:35,080 talking about with democracy has nothing to do with human rights, equality for women 181 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:39,799 or any of that stuff. It's a cloak. I mean, what you 182 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,440 said about transcending one's own humanity. It brings me back actually to a conversation 183 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:50,639 I had with a very senior cleric Orthodox priest. In fact, he was 184 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:56,639 the archbishop of the Greek Church in London, who I used to know quite 185 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:02,200 well some years ago, and he said that if you tried to, if 186 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,240 you aspire to go beyond your human limits, then of course you cease to 187 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:15,159 be human, and that is an absolutely terrible thing. That is the worst 188 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:19,639 conceivable thing that you can do to yourself. Now, he wasn't, by 189 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:23,240 the way, talking about some of the topics we're talking about now, but 190 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,399 of course it is very closely related what he was talking about. But he 191 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,200 was actually talking about Hollywood and films and the fact that there were so many 192 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:37,639 characters in Hollywood films nowadays who are you know, Well, they're called superheroes, 193 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:44,200 they have extraordinary powers. And he felt that this was extremely disturbing and 194 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:52,000 was something that was taking us on a completely wrong course and was a very 195 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,399 very bad thing as an example to people. It's an interesting conversation, but 196 00:16:57,559 --> 00:17:02,360 it brought what you've just said now brought back to me that very conversation, 197 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:11,319 because, of course, an orthodox priest will tell you that choice is in 198 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:17,799 fact an absolute central part of being human. Having the gift to choose is 199 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:22,480 something that human beings absolutely have. Of Course, how you exercise it is 200 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:30,519 important, and that's but you nonetheless do have that choice. If you're denied 201 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:40,359 that choice entirely, and if you are reduced to an economic construct and one 202 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,519 that's at the same time you're denying your humanity, well I think he would 203 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:52,039 have been very concerned about that, and I think it ties in frankly, 204 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,720 very well to the point that he was making about films. Yeah. I 205 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:03,440 think it was Berne's that said the ultimate weapon for propaganda, that the greatest 206 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,839 weapon the world's ever seen was Hollywood. So you know, I think I 207 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,039 cided that, and I wrote two books on Hollywood, and I think that 208 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,839 makes sense. We're getting our new meaning, our mythology from from movies. 209 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Maybe in the twentieth century. Maybe it's going to change now that people are 210 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:23,000 no longer really interested in movies and that art form as much, maybe video 211 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:26,279 games or the future. I don't know, but yeah, I think that 212 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:30,960 that's where we that's the myth maker of the twentieth century that gave us meaning. 213 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,400 And I don't think it's accidental that what became kind of the big blockbuster 214 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:44,039 phenomenon for the last ten twenty years was the Marvel slash, you know, 215 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,160 comic book universe world, because that's all premised on a very naturalistic, evolutionary 216 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:55,359 ethos where man will, through his own devices and techne achieve a kind of 217 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,480 transcendence like we're talking about, and it is ultimately I think you're absolutely right, 218 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,160 and not of what it means to be human. I also think there's 219 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:08,599 an unintentional perhaps subversion of the incarnation itself. I mean, in Orthodox theology, 220 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:14,160 we have the idea that the second person of the Godhead became man and 221 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,920 thus affirmed the goodness of human nature and of humanity, and and and of 222 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,680 that human nature's eternal existence via you know, the resurrection, the Eskaton and 223 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:30,440 so forth, and so it's it's any attack on human nature ultimately ends up 224 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,920 being also an attack on the incarnation as well, because man is a little 225 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,200 Christophany, to use the Orthodox terminology, I meaning he's a little image of 226 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,160 Christ. He's a little image of the divine and that's that's his purpose, 227 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,079 that's his te lose, that's what he's intended to kind of work towards becoming 228 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:53,839 in Orthodox theology. And I think that you get with this transhumanist ideology a 229 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,960 kind of replacement Gospel. I think it's a kind of a replace it's kind 230 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,680 of a cult too. If you look at some of the Silicon Valley elites 231 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,279 that go to Burning Man and participate in kind of the rituals that go on 232 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:10,240 there, it's they actually kind of see it as a quasi cult religious movement, 233 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,599 and they, you know, they'll kind of reinterpret Christianity's message. In 234 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,799 Ethos says, well, really, you know, Christianity was just kind of 235 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:22,799 talking about eternal life through the secret gnostic tech that we have or whatever. 236 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,559 I think that that's very gnostic. You actually see this when you read some 237 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:32,200 of the people from the transhumanist line of thought, When you read kurtzvol or 238 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:34,839 you read no Ival Harari or even Klaus, you know, they really do 239 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,880 speak and quasi religious tones. In fact, when I was reading Klaus's twenty 240 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,519 eighteen fourth of Noos Revolution book, I didn't expect him to be speaking of 241 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,200 the new world that we're going into needs. He says something to the effect 242 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,480 of a new covenant, a new ethic, a new covenantal religious ethic, 243 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,079 which I thought this was a book about technology and economics. Why were we 244 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,960 having this you know, religious speak here. Well, then we find out 245 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,440 that were you know, a lot of the WF partners with you know, 246 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,000 elements of the Vatican, you know, put Francis Is on board with a 247 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:08,720 lot of the WF. So it makes sense to I think, push this 248 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,720 sort of what I view as a religious delusion along with the tech uh and 249 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,240 the economic policies that they want, because it's a whole worldview they want. 250 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:22,799 They want to instill an entire worldview, not just as you said, in 251 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:27,759 an economic system, and not even really an ideology. I think the technocrats 252 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:33,079 that have studied this for for so many decades they understand that man is fundamentally 253 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:41,279 religious being. He's not fundamentally motivated by abstract reasoning and concepts. You know, 254 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:42,519 Berti and Russell in one of his books says something like, if you 255 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:48,119 want to sell people on your ideology, don't do it with logic and facts. 256 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,920 Do it with big brass bands and music and song. And you know 257 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:57,599 that's what you see a more effective means of indoctrination Hollywood pop music rather than 258 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,160 ideology. Who are these people who are behind this thing. Let's let's get 259 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,359 back to this because why why do they want it? Is it all about 260 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,119 power? I mean, do they have a perspective about this that is completely 261 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:18,279 cynical. Is it that they feel that this is a mechanism for control or 262 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:23,160 do they actually genuinely believe that, you know, this is something that is 263 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:30,960 the future for humanity and that you know, they're kind of missionaries leading us 264 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:37,480 to this world. I have to say, as somebody who's had to do 265 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:40,599 legal lot of legal work in my past, in the part in my own 266 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:48,279 past, I always tend to be fairly cynical about motivations that people who tend 267 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:55,519 to talk in this way, The people who are promoting these things always seem 268 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:59,200 to me to be the people who expect at the end of the day that 269 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,240 they will be the better fisheries and that they will exercise control. But who 270 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:06,839 are they? What kind of people are we talking about? Are they scientists? 271 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,880 Are they technocrats? Are they people who have connections with the financial world. 272 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,079 Are they doctors, diplomats, lawyers? Or are they a class and 273 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,680 to themselves? I would say all the above, All the above, both 274 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:29,200 for motivations and ideas, and all the above in terms of people recruited into 275 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,119 the superclass, the managerial class. I think Rothkop had a book about, 276 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,119 you know, the managerial class, the six thousand people or so that run 277 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,400 the world. You know. I think the best examples are people like a 278 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,279 Kissing You of Brazenski, and when we go and we read their books, 279 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,480 we see that they you know, they're not necessarily in every case religious. 280 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:52,200 I think a lot of those people are, you know, a religious, 281 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:59,400 irreligious, atheistic, pragmatic. For example, I don't I didn't see any 282 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,559 evidence David Rockefeller had any particular religious commitments, but I don't think that that 283 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:11,799 necessarily excludes other members who are true believers. They might have a true belief 284 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:18,759 in the possibility of technology being a kind of Promethean flame, you know, 285 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:22,279 to take us to some sort of transcendent level, but it's hard to know, 286 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,480 like you said, whether they really believe it. I mean, you 287 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,640 know, I think Klaus and no I vol Harari, for example, are 288 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:32,160 intelligent people, so you would think they would be able to recognize kind of 289 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,119 fundamental contradictions. But when they both will say things like, well, you 290 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,400 don't possess free will or consciousness, that's an illusion. By the way, 291 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,440 we will upload your consciousness to the cloud. To me, that's a contradiction. 292 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,920 I mean, you would think you would notice that at a kind of 293 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,599 a basic logical level. But I think in a lot of cases that cynical 294 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,319 pitchman thing is coming forward. I think there's a lot of cars, you 295 00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:00,640 know, phony kars, lemon car salesman, bad car salesman at work in 296 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720 this domain. But I think you do have some true believers. I think 297 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:08,319 some of the Silicon Valley people really believe, mainly because they've done a lot 298 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:15,240 of hallucinogens and that kind of contributes to the quasi gnostic ideology that they have, 299 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,039 whether they know it or not, that leads them to believe that they 300 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:22,480 will. I mean it's very popular, well known that, you know, 301 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:26,519 Silicon Valley kind of comes out of the sixties counterculture. You've got people in 302 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:30,839 that sphere very open about their d mt lsd use. So I think there's 303 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,799 a very easy overlap there with being a true believer in the power of tech 304 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,880 to raise us to some immortality or whatever. And I think there's an element 305 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,920 of contingent of those people who really believe in something dark in Satanic I think 306 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:51,839 we've seen people like Michael Ichino, who had some degree of influence, and 307 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:55,599 he seemed to take his Satanism seriously. I don't, I mean, he 308 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,839 could have been putting up a front. I mean, certainly these people are 309 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,559 very adept that deception. If they're high level, you know, intelligence operatives 310 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,640 or something like that, then obviously they're very they're very skilled in the art 311 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:10,079 lying, so it's very possible that they were putting on the front. But 312 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:18,079 I really do think there's also a kind of motivating force, whatever your particular 313 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,279 bent is, if you're on board with the same basic ideas, they're not 314 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:27,440 really concerned with the particularities of your your proclivities. So I think you know, 315 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,200 when you read Klaus, when you read Brazilski, when you read Kissinger, 316 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,759 when you read Deve Rockefeller, when you read these these Western power block 317 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,039 elites, they tend to have kind of the same basic I said something years 318 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,079 ago. I did video where it was like the ten commandments of the of 319 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,720 the global elite, and it was like, you know, these are the 320 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,519 ten basic things that you have to believe without question to kind of be in 321 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,359 that club. Not that believing that makes you a part of that club. 322 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,359 I think, you know, you've got to be recruited out of Harvard Yale, 323 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,319 you know, put into CEO position and whatnot. So I think you 324 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,319 know, it's not like you said at the beginning, it's not a mystery 325 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,640 who we're talking about. CFR has been around for a long time, you 326 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,319 know, Bilderberg's been around for a long time. All that stuff fairly it's 327 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:17,400 semi public, I guess, is what we could say. They created trilateral 328 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,880 commission for Brazinski to run. That was a Kissinger idea. So we've seen 329 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,799 the passing of that old guard of those guys, but it looks like they 330 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:30,079 really wanted to kind of hand it over to like tech elites and Silicon Valley 331 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,799 people. That's who was more and more showing up at Bilderberg in the last 332 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,920 eight or ten years. But I don't know how. I don't think that 333 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,839 it's going as well as they thought it would. We'll come to that in 334 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,559 a moment, but briefly, I'd be very interested to know what your ten 335 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,559 the moments al and these people have. But let's let's just just you know 336 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,119 that's that is a question. But it's also another question, which is this 337 00:27:53,200 --> 00:28:00,000 looks like a very very management technocratic, elitist vision. I have to think 338 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:06,759 that we need to say it's people who believe that they can control everything. 339 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,799 The other thing I wanted to say is it may be logical in its own 340 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,599 terms, but it doesn't seem to me very rational, which is, you 341 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:22,880 know, maybe I'm making a distinction between the two. I actually do think 342 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,720 the logic and reason are not by any means the same things. But to 343 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:37,039 me it looks in about frankly completely irrational, as well as bleak and ugly 344 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:45,200 and lacking any kind of humanity about it at all, and deeply unappealing to 345 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:52,640 the vast majority of humankind once they've properly understood it. But let's start with 346 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,039 the Ten Commandments, and maybe you can just comment on those other points of 347 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,680 Yeah, I mean that video maybe six years ago, so I don't know 348 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480 if I remember every single of one of the ten that I listed, but 349 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,319 I think at that time I had read about thirty or forty of the Western 350 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:10,079 power Block elite texts, and so I just kind of noticed, like, 351 00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,039 well, they all kind of seem to say the same thing about you know, 352 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,799 we've got to have They're always say, well, you have to believe 353 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,839 that we're in a giant crisis. There's a huge crisis, and the only 354 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:26,039 solution to this crisis is a global governance. We can't have nation states or 355 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:32,720 firewalls of limited power blocks. It's got to be international in terms of its 356 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:37,440 structure. You've got to have an international economic order, which would then preclude 357 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:44,000 any types of and I'm not trying to be a libertarian, but I have 358 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:48,960 plenty of critiques of libertarian philosophy, but that you can't really have a system 359 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:52,839 of free exchange. So they do want to, I think, ultimately eliminate 360 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,920 that. They talk about a single currency. This goes. You can find 361 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,559 this back in uh Lord Birkenhead, ah C Wells, Virgin of Russell, 362 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,000 all of those old school, you know, sort of British upper structure elite 363 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,400 who had a huge role I think in planning a lot of what we're going 364 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,359 into. In their in their writings, you have to essentially have a commitment 365 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:22,680 to scientism, to a sort of a Darwinian philosophy of some type. They 366 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,160 seem to be committed to technocratic governance on the whole. I couldn't find any 367 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:33,079 any member of that superclass that's written that doesn't believe in a technocratic governance. 368 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,680 I don't remember what all the other that there was three or three or four 369 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,680 in war think I think that's the basic and I would get yeah, yeah, 370 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,039 I mean, you know, a couple of books that really lay this 371 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,480 out. I think that are very telling. Is you know, if you 372 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,960 read something like Impact of Science on Society by Russell, which you know is 373 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:55,799 almost a century old now, and then if you you know, fast forward 374 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,000 up until the you know, Cold War period with something like Tragy and Hope. 375 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,680 The most important chapter and Tragedy and Hope, I've argued for a long 376 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:10,920 time is the very middle chapter where he talks about technocratic managerial governance of the 377 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,880 future. He says that what the Western power blocks plan is is ultimately basically 378 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:21,279 have everybody in smart cities and a and giant supercomputers running the city. And 379 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,079 so, you know, he's very explicit there about he thinks that's that's where 380 00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,799 we're going. We can come up a few maybe a decade ahead of that 381 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,319 Brazenski Rise, between two ages, the technocratic tech technotronic era, and then 382 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:38,559 we come up into you know, free toft Copras writing about radical eco type 383 00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:42,359 of stuff. All society has to be reorganized around the principles of Gaya, 384 00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:48,920 of the feminine patriarchy. All of that has to be undermined has to be 385 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,839 inverted in his book, I think his turning point. That's another example, 386 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,440 you know, so that there's many, many of these. There's the changing 387 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,839 images of a man, the Stanford read Search. It also sort of makes 388 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,400 the same point about reorganizing everything on the basis of these new principles, reintroduction 389 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,599 of paganism. This is where we get the New Age movement as a big 390 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:15,119 part of this foster foisted and fostered by the elite. By the way, 391 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,440 it's not a you know, a grassroots type of movement. It's very much 392 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,680 amenable to the Pentagon's long term plans, I think. And so you know, 393 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,720 then we come up to people like Klaus and he's essentially saying the same 394 00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:30,960 thing that hgu Wells was saying one hundred years before. So I think that's 395 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,279 the basic plan here. I think people get caught up in, well, 396 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:42,799 is it fully a Marxist plan? You know, the American right mistakenly thinks 397 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,839 that it's quote Marxist. You get other people who think, no, it's 398 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,880 the monopoly capitalist. I really think it's a fusion of a lot of these 399 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,039 different systems into whatever will work in the long run. Well, we had 400 00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:58,359 I was we were talking about logic. I mean, this seems to me 401 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:05,559 to have the logic of the end cult essentially, and the other thing to 402 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,519 say about it, and it's the immediate instant think. I mean it abolishes 403 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,680 history obviously, that goes without saying, and it creates stagnation. I mean, 404 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,759 it is the end of development, human development. Now human beings. 405 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:25,440 I thought like this, I mean, we are we're different from each other. 406 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,279 We're not ats, We're different from each other. We are, you 407 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:34,720 know, function in completely different ways. Function isn't even the right way. 408 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:43,039 We live in completely different ways. And we have I mean we in spite 409 00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:47,039 of everything, we do have the power of choice, which is inherent to 410 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:51,880 us as human beings. It's not something they can be taken from us. 411 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,400 So you said that this isn't working. Well, it clearly isn't, because 412 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:04,799 of course it can't. But the attempt to impose it is doing immense damage. 413 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,599 Absolutely. I think the reason it does this damage is because it's fundamentally 414 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,400 against our nature. You made this point about it's fundamental to humans to have 415 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:23,360 choice. The Patristic teaching is that free will is a component of human nature, 416 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,719 and so you couldn't have human nature without removing free will, and so 417 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,960 the idea that you could get rid of it really has It demonstrates the presupposition 418 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,920 of a different metaphysic, which of course the power structure does have a different 419 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:44,440 metaphysics. They see humans as essentially a reductionist materialistic phenomenon that's a product of 420 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,960 the cosmos that can then be sort of steered in terms of evolution and so. 421 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,159 And this is actually pretty explicit as well. Jonah Salk has a book 422 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,400 Survival of the Wisest where he talks in this way that he says that the 423 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,239 scientific priestclass has to really step in and steer humanity and evolution, and that's 424 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,599 going to require things like, you know, really radical Malthusian ideologies. So 425 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:15,119 the the the implementation of this. Other examples could be things like Tavistock. 426 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,639 Tavistock heavily pushes and was behind all of the I'm going to use my famous 427 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,360 code words here, the T R, A, and Z things that we've 428 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,559 seen in the last ten years, twenty years. They were very bold and 429 00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:36,400 open about spearheading that from a sociological perspective on purpose, and I think that 430 00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,119 it makes perfect sense when you think about, well, why would they push 431 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:45,800 that so hard? Well, that's a very it's very adjacent to the transhumanist 432 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:52,079 agenda because the idea that we can you know, transcend all the limitations, 433 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,800 including biological limitations and so forth, that very easily transitions into oh, yes, 434 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,599 well, then I can also now become a cyborg. I can become 435 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:05,519 something beyond the human. There's a really great book that, inadvertently, I 436 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,119 think, admits all this as well. From a journalist perspective, if you 437 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:14,519 read any Jacobson's book on the history of DARPA. I read the whole thing 438 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,280 lectured through it, and it blew me away because the very last chapter was 439 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,760 where I think she was interviewing or having discussions with some of the transhumanist minded 440 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:30,119 technocrats at DARPA, and they were very explicit about their philosophy. So you 441 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:35,079 might think they would be very nerdy and to text stuff, but they were 442 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:43,920 very explicit that their operating system was a very dogmatic radical materialism. And so 443 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,159 it's almost like at war against the idea that man possesses free will, or 444 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,559 that man possesses consciousness or mind or a soul, because for them that would 445 00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:59,519 necessitate that there might be something else transcendent. So I think the war against 446 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:05,039 the soul and consciousness ends up almost it almost kind of admitted at times that 447 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,760 it's a war on the idea of God and the transcendent. So yeah, 448 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,159 I think you have to It kind of goes together, right, like if 449 00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,960 you're gonna undermine human nature, it kind of goes along with the idea that 450 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,400 we have to stamp out. I think merchant Russal at some point uses this 451 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,000 terminology of stamping out free will or something like that. Indeed, we can't 452 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,320 have humans in the system like this, so we have to find ways to 453 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,079 persuade people not to be humans. Essentially, that is the nature of this, 454 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,639 which ultimately is impossible. Now it is running into problems. Let's actually 455 00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:45,079 talk a bit about this problems we don't We have Russia, which is of 456 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:50,440 course the country which actually there were quite a lot of people with not entirely 457 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,760 dissimilar ideas, especially if you go back to some of the writings that were 458 00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:59,320 widespread in Russia in the nineteen twenties when there was quite a lot of debate 459 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,119 at that time, but there were you know, a lot of ideas that 460 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:07,519 were not entirely different from the ones that we are seeing now. And by 461 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:15,559 the way, people who often in the West today are hailed as great artistic 462 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,480 figures, which I'm prepared to say they were, but they were in many 463 00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,039 ways. The Constructivists, for example, were right at the vanguard of this 464 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:29,800 kind of thing. Anyway, Russia eventually doesn't like it. It moves on, 465 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,400 it's reverting to orthodoxy. It's now a major stumbling block, or so 466 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,320 it seems to me. In front of this thing, pouting himself who's its 467 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,639 president, very connected I think to Russian feeling. He's a post He's straightforwardly 468 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,920 come out and said we don't like this. Other countries are doing the same. 469 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:57,079 I mean China, not obviously an orthodox Christian country, but with a 470 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,000 tradition and philosophy of its own rootie in Confucianism. They're also coming up opposing 471 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,280 it. In India too. They're not very keen on this, and it's 472 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:13,639 so difficult to understand why. And we are seeing conflicts flare up in all 473 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,480 parts of the world. We have a major conflict of course in Ukraine. 474 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,039 It's interesting that you brought up the issue of paganism, because people may not 475 00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,280 be aware of the fact that there is an awful lot of bit practice at 476 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,679 this particular point in time in Ukraine, and from exactly the kind of people 477 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,880 that you would cool, you know, you'd expect, and who would be 478 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:42,400 closest to the thinking behind all of this. But one sense is that these 479 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,800 things aren't going very well. And again I'm glad you used the word scientism, 480 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:54,119 because in reality, if you're talking about science, actual science, the 481 00:39:54,199 --> 00:40:00,360 kind of thing that people used to think of as science, this isn't like 482 00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:08,280 that at all. And in fact we're seeing regression and scientific stagnation beginning to 483 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:15,639 take hold as well. And in fact, it's clear to me that science 484 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,000 is in fact that the place where it's happening more is in places other than 485 00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:23,000 the West. Partly, I think, as a result of all of this, 486 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:27,800 So what would you say about this? I mean, are we indeed 487 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,400 seeing this whole thing run into problems? Because I actually I should say, 488 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,840 I don't think this is much traction outside the West at all, and the 489 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,360 rest of the world looking at this, not just Russia, Chamina, India, 490 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:50,320 but pretty much everywhere ejecting it, Yeah, I think you're you hit 491 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,400 the nail and head there as well as kind of what you said at the 492 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:59,000 beginning that it's very difficult to push an ideology even with all of this sort 493 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,360 of packaging and near of the promise of of you know, being becoming a 494 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,000 Marvel superhero and transcending limitations. I think when you realize that what's actually being 495 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:15,360 pushed is you know, destructive to children and having a family, that's where 496 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,599 the rubber meets the road, and that's where people are saying, oh, 497 00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,639 wait a minute, Okay, this is this is crazy. This is way 498 00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:27,320 too far. We have enough sense to not allow this into our countries because 499 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:34,599 it's essentially a weapon that undermines and and really only could be pushed by I 500 00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:39,239 think a sort of psychopathic, oligarchical type of elite you know, not even 501 00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:44,320 not even a we think of the cor corrupt, you know, elite power 502 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,679 structure or something that, or somebody greedy or something. This is almost beyond 503 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,079 that to like just a just a sort of a you know, it's like 504 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:58,280 O'Brien in nineteen eighty four. With this, this just insatiable hatred for humanity 505 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:04,920 is what seems to be motivating the ideology of Western technocracy because it it must 506 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,960 push the darkest elements to further the goals, and people are now seeing that. 507 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,559 So I think that the biggest mistake was when it just sort of from 508 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:22,079 the corporate sort of CEO top down level went wholesale into you know, Skittles, 509 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:28,199 slash Tira and z agenda. I think that everybody saw that and it 510 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,760 was like, well, wait a minute. You know, first of all, 511 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,760 the shows that we're not really in some sort of free market. If 512 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,199 every fortune one hundred, fortune five hundred company has the same agenda that's pushed, 513 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,400 that has nothing really to do with economics directly. It seems to have 514 00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:45,360 a lot to do with an ideology. And so yeah, that woke a 515 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:53,199 lot of people up. That shows that it's inherently anti human, ultimately anti 516 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,559 natalist. And you know, you know you mentioned the Ukraine sort of the 517 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:06,559 push for or these resurgent pagan ideologies. Those also are very amid arguments for 518 00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:09,719 a long time. They're very amenable to what the Western power structure wants to 519 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,800 push because it opens you up, i think, to a return to the 520 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,079 worship of nature, to the worship of the natural cycle, which the people 521 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,440 who go into paganism or neo paganism, and they may not intend this, 522 00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:29,480 but it makes you very amenable to accepting death as a good thing and a 523 00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:35,280 natural thing and something that perhaps should be part of the oligarchical structure's plan. 524 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,320 So now we're moving into the acceptance of something like euthanasia, et cetera. 525 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,519 And we're starting to see that, you know, in places like Canada. 526 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,679 So you see, we agin to see that it's sort of like a death 527 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,000 cult, I guess is the best way to put it. And I don't 528 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,199 think it's accidental that, you know, Tiny Mustache Man and his followers, 529 00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:57,519 you know, they had that same ideology of a kind of a death cult 530 00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,760 ideology in the background. And you know, when you get into the history 531 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,679 of the Ukraine, particularly World War two, you get into Gladio, you 532 00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:12,480 get into the Galen networks Galen or that has a connection to the Ukraine at 533 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,159 that time. That's why there's that network there, I think, at least 534 00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:21,440 for my research. And yeah, I see paganism and neopaganism ideology of foisted 535 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:30,360 there as part of that Western as well as Protestantism, Charismaticism, Eastern Catholicism. 536 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:36,679 Those are also techniques and tools and strategies of the Western power structure. 537 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,440 Forum University famous Jesuits caa university very closely connected to a lot of these entities 538 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,400 in the Ukraine. That's not accidental, that's all by design. How is 539 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,119 it that we in the West have proved so vulnerable to all of this? 540 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,039 Is it because of the crisis of faith that we have seen developed since the 541 00:44:55,079 --> 00:45:00,079 mid twentieth century? Because there has been a crisis of faith the West of 542 00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:06,679 that, it's indisputable, it's gone very far in Europe, it's reached the 543 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:15,400 United States. Is that why? Because we've lost faith our own faith? 544 00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:22,920 Is that the vacuum that's been opened that these ideas have been able to fill? 545 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:25,639 Is it also again we come back to what you were talking about, 546 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,320 you know, neopaganism? Is it? You know, the temptations of hedonism 547 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,599 which do exist as well and are connected to it. It seems to me, 548 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:43,239 is this why it's happened? Because there doesn't seem to be the resistance 549 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,559 to this in the West that you might have expected. As I said to 550 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:51,000 the rest of the world, I could say this was some certainty, because 551 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,920 I get lots of people from the rest of the world contacting me and I 552 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,840 read a lot of what they say and what the articles that they write about. 553 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:05,039 Nothing to see us in the West is very weird. This isn't something 554 00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:08,960 which I think people in the West fully understand, especially policy makers. By 555 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:15,519 the way, So why are we letting this happen to us? I mean, 556 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:21,079 one can come up with all kinds of power related reasons and economic related 557 00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:27,599 reasons. But you know, people have pushed back before when all sorts of 558 00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,679 things have been done to them. Why are we not doing that much more 559 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:37,440 than we actually are? Yeah, I think the problem of the West is 560 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,840 a long term spiritual problem, and that's probably a different diagnosis than most people 561 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,400 would give. And probably the easiest, most accessible book on this. And 562 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,280 I don't agree with everything that this author writes, but I think he really 563 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,400 hit on something that a few people notice. As doctor Phillip Cherard has a 564 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,559 really excellent little hunter page book called Church Schism, and he goes back to 565 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,960 the time of the schism between the East and the West, and he really 566 00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:10,840 says essentially that this produces kind of two different Europes. The Europe of the 567 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:17,679 first millennium that produces Byzantium is a very different idea and ethos than the Europe 568 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,800 that we get after the schism in the West, with what, for all 569 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,599 Inton's purpose, we call the Franco Latin papal Church. And so I'm not 570 00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:30,920 trying to foist everything on the papacy. Obviously life is more complex than that. 571 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,320 But the religious sentiment of the West goes in a very different direction than 572 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:40,360 the ethos of the Orthodox Church, and what you get there eventually manifests as 573 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,199 a kind of a choice between what you're either going to be a Protestant or 574 00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,559 you're going to be a papist, a Roman Catholic. And this if you 575 00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:53,400 go to the Key Disputes and Byzantium where Saint Gregor Palamas is arguing with a 576 00:47:53,400 --> 00:48:00,280 lot of the Western minded thinkers and theologians, the Barleymites, the Acandinos Procuros. 577 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:07,320 He says, if you adopt this ideology, what will happen is this 578 00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:15,159 theological aberration will result in mass atheism. So very few people will go to 579 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:21,440 Sant Gregory Palamos to locate I think this prophetic prediction, you know, we're 580 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,960 talking Byzantium in fourteenth century of warning that the West, if it adopted this 581 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,039 theological mistake, that it would lead to mass atheism, but that's exactly what 582 00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,119 happened, and so not too long after that. I mean, there's other 583 00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:39,039 really great books as well that the detailed the spiritual ideological. There's a great 584 00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:44,920 book that came out recently by a Cambridge text by Snicia Glue, where he 585 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:52,400 talks about the ideological subversion within Byzantium itself actually influenced a lot of the Enlightenment 586 00:48:52,440 --> 00:49:00,960 thinkers Spinosa Kant, and then some of the radical jacob and socialists were influenced 587 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:07,880 by Plethon, and so he locates this this atheistic move that is very similar 588 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,920 to the critiques of Saint Gregor Palmus as well, in this kind of tending 589 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,519 towards atheism, which then manifests in a lot of these dialectical movements from the 590 00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:21,159 Enlightenment onward that we talked about earlier. So I think it's a root a 591 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:27,599 spiritual problem that leads to theological mistakes, theological errors that then leads to other 592 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:32,719 ideological errors. So yeah, I think that's the real thing. And it 593 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,599 sounds a little odd because we don't usually think of theology as having that kind 594 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:42,360 of an effect, but I actually think at root we're all religious beings. 595 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,760 We do kind of operate that way, even if we don't in our conscious 596 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,679 mind think of it that way. I absolutely agree. I mean, I 597 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,559 think that this actually has a huge role to play, and I think if 598 00:49:54,559 --> 00:50:01,400 we don't it, one of the great problems with the study of history in 599 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:07,280 the West is that he doesn't give enough weight to this sort of thing. 600 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,679 Anyway, We've spoken a lot, and I know those questions, so I'm 601 00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:15,679 going to transfer to Alex here, and I want to first of all say 602 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:21,119 thank you. We've covered a huge amount of ground. I would hope very 603 00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:24,519 much that we're able to do more programs in the future and explore some of 604 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:29,280 these points that you've made in a lot more detail, because you know, 605 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,599 we can definitely do that. It seems to me in ways that I think 606 00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:37,280 a lot of people would find very interesting. But this is where I'm going 607 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,159 to finish now, and I want to say thank you, and I going 608 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:45,320 to hand over to Alex and he'll probably have some questions to put to you. 609 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,199 Thank you very much, Jack, absolutely, thank you. Alijon. 610 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,400 Yes, we do have a lot of questions. And that was a fantastic 611 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:59,000 discussion, covered a lot of ground. For sure. And let's see what 612 00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:09,360 everyone is asking Jay. Let's start with Ricardo Alfonso cruel fate, Why do 613 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,599 you mock me? You finally have Jay Dyer on and I won't be able 614 00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,360 to watch it, But can you guys ask Jay to talk about Gladio and 615 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,519 Intel agencies. He's a great researcher. I'll have to watch later from Ricardo. 616 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,280 Well, yeah, and brief, you know, I've done a few 617 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,840 talks that spend a few hours on Gladio. I've done a few of Lord 618 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:37,119 Voldemort's Fourth Hour on Gladio, so you could probably find those for more information. 619 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,480 But this is really just a Cold War operation that the members of the 620 00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:51,679 OSS and CI cooked up to supposedly stave off a Soviet invasion of Europe. 621 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,960 So if Stalin decided it supposedly that he would move into Europe, there would 622 00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,159 be these cells that were set up all throughout Europe. And as more information 623 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,199 has come out about this over the years. It was first discovered in the 624 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,039 nineties, there were some writers who were already sort of on the cusp of 625 00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:12,960 it even in the eighties, people like David Yallop. But as this came 626 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,480 out, you have people begin to actually write full on examinations of it. 627 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:22,880 Daniel Ganser wrote basically, what's a PhD thesis on it? And it turns 628 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:29,760 out this was a much more widespread operation of sort of training saboteurs, assassins 629 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,159 and so forth to be ready for these sorts of operations. And it looks 630 00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,599 like they might have even been doing a lot more than that in terms of 631 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,760 actually doing black ops. I think we find things like the Bologna bombing and 632 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,360 so forth having connections to Gladio. And if you read the Paul Williams text, 633 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,239 this really gets into depth with the Vatican Bank, the Vatican Bank being 634 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,360 used as a sort of a funnel for black operations, drug money, weapons 635 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:59,760 trades, and so forth. So I would recommend either Ganser's book or probably 636 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,320 will Paul Williams book. They both focus on different things. Williams book focuses 637 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,440 on the Vatican element as well as organized crime, the mafia, the P 638 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:13,920 two lodge in Italy, Lecchio, Gelli, Michelson, Dona Kissing. Williams's 639 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,280 thesis is basically Kissinger was running all of that in Italy, and then you 640 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,719 have the Ganser thesis, focus is more on the different cells and what they 641 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:28,079 were doing in all the different countries like Turkey. So yeah, this was 642 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,920 a pretty vast, wild, crazy operation that was cooked up I think by 643 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:39,599 Hello El and Donovan and Engleton from f fits. Hopefully Jay will tell the 644 00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:46,079 audience about the CFR's plans as described by Carol Quigley. Yes, we did 645 00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:51,440 hit that earlier on in terms of and if you're interested in a longer treatise, 646 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,519 I did a whole eight hour or eight section lecture through your Tragy and 647 00:53:54,559 --> 00:54:00,599 Hope, and then I did a to installment lecture through angle American establishment. 648 00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:05,519 I do have his book and Civilizations, but I haven't read that yet. 649 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,960 John Roberts says, my perspective as a citizen of a nation is the globalists 650 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,000 look like a club of the super rich who hire IVY League graduates as their 651 00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:22,760 minions as they obsessively seek to increase their wealth and power. I would concur 652 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,719 yeah. I think if you look at for example, you know, the 653 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,920 OSS and CIA oftentimes recruiting out of for many years at least Harvard and Yale 654 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,360 and Princeton, British Intelligence basically you know, recruiting out of Oxford and Eton 655 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,639 and Cambridge. So yeah, that's that's what we mean by the sort of 656 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,639 recruitment process. It's not limited to intelligence operatives. Obviously, it includes CEOs, 657 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:53,079 bankers, and as you pointed out, doctors, scientists, mad scientists. 658 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:58,199 So yeah, I think I think all of these elements are recruited into 659 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,360 that superstructure for sure. G one, g I one four one six. 660 00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:07,920 Question to all of you, to J and Alexander, did you read and 661 00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:15,079 if yes, what did you think of Burnhom's The Machiavelians that I've not read? 662 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,800 I have read it exactly, Okay, Zariel says, JA, they 663 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,559 are very religious, they understand it more than one wants to admit. But 664 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:32,039 their religion is antichrist. Religion is a human creation, not faith. Yeah, 665 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:37,800 I think a segment of the power structure, the power Lade definitely do 666 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,760 have religious commandments that they take seriously, but I think many of them don't 667 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,159 so I think, but they all kind of align with a similar game plan. 668 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,360 So you don't have to be religious, I don't think to be a 669 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,920 member of that power structure. Wade asks, outside the most basic natural law, 670 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:59,519 how does rational man have belief in any mythology, theology? I e. 671 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:04,800 The miracle problem. Well, a lot of the debates that I do 672 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,239 with atheists we end up kind of in the domain of philosophy, and so 673 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:15,320 you know, having an assumption or a commitment ahead of time too what's not 674 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,639 possible that's based on a metaphysic. And so what I would do in that 675 00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:25,840 discussion or debate is ask you for an account or justification for your metaphysics that 676 00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:32,039 underlie the assumption that something miraculous or supernatural isn't possible. And if you could 677 00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:37,360 tell me then what the grounding for that metaphysic is then, which I don't 678 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,719 think an atheist or a materialist can. I've not found one yet. But 679 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,880 if you fail at that task, then I would say that the conclusion that 680 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:51,360 there are no miracles would be unjustified. So that's the transcendental argument for God. 681 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:57,360 That's the move we make in terms of that apologetic and JJHW says Operation 682 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:05,239 Gladio. There's a full nineteen two documentary from the BBC, and I'll put 683 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,000 that link in the chat. Sophisticated Cavement says, what is the proper way 684 00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:15,800 to integrate this gnostic technocratic worldview with the rest of the world. I doubt 685 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:22,599 it's possible to get rid of it entirely. Well, I mean, I 686 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:30,280 guess from a Christian perspective, there will always be competing systems and ideologies and 687 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,519 heresies and heterodoxies, and so yeah, they may not always ultimately be eliminated 688 00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,280 before the end or the esketon, whenever that is. But I'm not sure 689 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,639 why we wouldn't necessarily need to quote integrate it or what that means. It 690 00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:47,000 sounds kind of a Yunian thing. I don't think we need to integrate, 691 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:54,480 you know, things that are anti human or that undermine civilization, and that's 692 00:57:55,079 --> 00:58:00,639 Belichihab says. I once read in an old Freemasonry manual that the light is 693 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:06,960 death. That is what the noset teaches us. The manual mentioned Mozart being 694 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,679 a member of the French Lodge, So this is a very old thing. 695 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,920 Yeah, I mean if you look at magic flu right, I mean that's 696 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,559 essentially a kind of a mast Masonic pageant. So yeah, that's definitely I 697 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:25,920 think the case. But I think there's a lot of different ideas within masonry 698 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,800 as to what the light is and what this or that thing is. You 699 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,440 know, if you look at if you look at morals and dogm. It's 700 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,320 really just a kind of a comparative religion text where he just sort of smashes 701 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,559 all of the religions together and says, there, that's what freemasonry is. 702 00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:45,679 Freemasonry is the true supra religion or philosophy. He says at times, it's 703 00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:49,559 not a religion, even though it kind of is. So I don't think 704 00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:54,079 necessarily that there's there's one ultimate Masonic secret. I see Freemasonry is more of 705 00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:59,480 a tool of the British Empire's era of control. It was kind of their 706 00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:05,719 spy net work. There's public there's mainline histories that have been written about Freemasonry 707 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,719 operating as the kind of the spy network of the British Empire. I don't 708 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:15,159 think it's as important and influential today as it used to be, But I 709 00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:20,760 do think ultimately it's kind of an esoteric If you read Morals and Dogma, 710 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:27,239 he kind of goes into positing that it's really neoplatonism or a form of neoplatonism. 711 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,679 It's very similar to what Plethon talked about when I mentioned Plethon earlier. 712 00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:39,159 Jay Alexander, any opinion on UK elite groups like Chatham House, Oh, 713 00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:45,639 absolutely. I mean the CFR, you know, is essentially Pratt House is 714 00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,440 based on Chatham House in the UK, and so it's supposed to be the 715 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,880 sort of the US mirror of that. That's the means by which the the 716 00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,639 British establishment really sort of put their foot back in the door, so to 717 01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:05,760 speak, of American influence, power and control. I mean they were already 718 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,480 kind of there with Colonel Ewan, mendel House and Woodrow Wilson, but I 719 01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:15,519 think the erection of the OSS via a lot of these British intelligence operatives like 720 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:22,199 William Stevenson and Noel Coward and even Ian Fleming. You know, that's being 721 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,559 done out of a lot of these you know, New York offices and Rockefeller 722 01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:32,840 Plaza as well as Pratt House, which is the mirror of Chathamhouse. I 723 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,920 have nothing, absolutely nothing to add to that. I mean, these are 724 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,639 this is very much the British establishment and how it works if you see it, 725 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,760 if you see it close up, which of course I have, and 726 01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:51,679 exactly as Jay says, a lot of it has migrated across the Atlantic or 727 01:00:51,719 --> 01:00:54,480 the Pond as we call it, golfrom in London, and it's amazing how 728 01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:00,480 it's taken root. They're actually given how profoundly different American culture is from British 729 01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:07,960 in so many ways, as it's a whole or another whole topic about the 730 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:14,920 anglicization of a part of the American elite that took place over the course of 731 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:21,239 the twentieth century, which is very strange and not what I think you would 732 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,840 have expected the beginning of the twentieth century. But it's exactly that a lot 733 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,599 of these things that the Americans developed, a lot of these ideas that the 734 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:39,519 Americans developed, originate from British discussions and thinking and structures that were developed from 735 01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:50,039 about eighteen ninety onwards, and anyway they've taken brute in the US. Matthew 736 01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:53,840 says, nothing will fire up human resistance more than the erosion of free will. 737 01:01:54,199 --> 01:02:00,639 So while it is scary that these globalist elites exist, there is significant 738 01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:06,480 hope that this will all come crashing down. Yeah, it doesn't really have 739 01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:09,320 anything to offer other than you know, ultimately, you know, get in 740 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,199 your com pod and live in the matrix. I mean, that's the sort 741 01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:15,320 of the end result of this. And I don't think ultimately that will be 742 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,320 I mean, like like Alexander said, we may experience a lot of damage 743 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,119 and destruction on the way to that. You know, end game being pushed, 744 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,280 but I don't think it'll be successful. You have time for a couple 745 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:36,159 of more questions. Jay, Sure, okay, great slowboy Whiteboard says, 746 01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:42,400 thanks for having Jon. Sparky says, euthanasias pushed in the US as hospice 747 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,400 care. Doctors now talk patients into dying in a hospice where they stay for 748 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:52,679 a few days and quietly give an overdose of morphine rather than treatment. It's 749 01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:58,119 the primary reason the life expectancies at least a couple of years lower nowadays. 750 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,679 That makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised. I heard somebody talking the other 751 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,039 day. I didn't verify this, but they had said something like upwards of 752 01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:16,559 ten k people have already been sort of goaded into this in Canada, and 753 01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:22,239 that they really started with elderly homeless people. So again I haven't verified that, 754 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,320 but it wouldn't surprise me. It would seem to line up with with 755 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:35,480 this ideology. Sophisticated cave Men says, what is your view on the Rescrucians? 756 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,400 They had a lot of influence on the Enlightenment. Dame Francis Yates's book 757 01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:45,079 Rosicrucian Enlightenment. It's kind of a classics it's a famous text on that. 758 01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:50,679 I've done some talks on that years ago. So I think that Rosicrucianism is, 759 01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:55,840 you know, it's important ideologically in tracing the development of the Enlightenment. 760 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,639 But I don't find it convincing, and I think it's kind of a ideology 761 01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:04,719 ultimately, all right, and finally from Sparky, A borderless world run by 762 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:11,800 central authority, Jay, what could go wrong? I see this as one 763 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,840 of the chief weaknesses in the libertarian position. For you know, for so 764 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,960 many years the libertarians have pushed open borders in their crusade against you know, 765 01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:25,559 statism, and now we're at this juncture where I've seen a lot of libertarians 766 01:04:25,639 --> 01:04:27,239 kind of thinking, oh, wait a minute, actually, if we have 767 01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:31,159 completely open borders, this might actually be a problem for the you know, 768 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,800 the system and the welfare system, all this stuff. So yeah, I 769 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:42,880 don't think that it really is possible to have a totally open borders world. 770 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:48,320 It doesn't make any sense. Jay Dyer, it's been a pleasure having you 771 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:54,559 on the Duran. I have all of I will put all of Jay's information 772 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,480 as a pin common down below where you can follow his work. Thank you 773 01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:03,320 very much, Jay for an amazing livestream. Well, hey, I thank 774 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,239 you guys. Can I plug one thing real quick? Absolutely? We will 775 01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:12,360 be at a live event in Las Vegas June twenty second, and our live 776 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,360 events are a combination of kind of real geopolitical discussion. I'm going to be 777 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:20,159 doing a two hour talk on blackmail, espionage, the Anglo American establishment, 778 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:27,119 how they operate, jeff Stein mcgeffree style stuff, and then we'll be talking 779 01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:30,039 about films Hollywood and we'll have some comedy there as well. You can get 780 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,320 those tickets on my Twitter which links my event bright So June twenty second in 781 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,480 Las Vegas, June twenty second, Las Vegas. I will have Jay's Twitter 782 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,719 link. It's in the description box right now, and I will also add 783 01:05:42,719 --> 01:05:45,480 it as a pin comment. Thank you very much, Jay, Absolutely, 784 01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:47,199 thank you guys. As an honor, thank you, thank you very much. 785 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,119 Jan Thanks have a good one. Thank you, Honor Reason. I 786 01:05:50,199 --> 01:06:00,599 was thank you, wow wow, Alexander, that was great listening to you 787 01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:03,559 and Jay. Thank you. But it was a wonderful program. I thought 788 01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:10,400 I thought it was fascinating. I think, you know he the discussion went 789 01:06:10,519 --> 01:06:16,119 very well. Actually, just just to make one quick observation, after I 790 01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:25,079 spoke to him about the what what the archbishop archivisionallygorious by the way said to 791 01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:30,320 me about people who aspire to be more the more than human becoming less so 792 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:39,039 and talking about film in Hollywood, he actually made exactly the point that Jay 793 01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:45,679 Dying made that this is that this goes completely contrary to the whole nature of 794 01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:50,760 the mission of Christ of Jesus, which was precisely to become human. It's 795 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,920 exactly the same point. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, 796 01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:57,519 Jesus, I just wanted I wanted to say that on that I didn't want 797 01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,400 to you know what it would be, I would be really exactly that boy 798 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:06,039 is just yeah, yeah, it would be a little bit off off topic 799 01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:11,360 for for us as the Durand. But because Jay has written books on Hollywood 800 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,039 and I don't know people that have been watching the channel, no, no, 801 01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:17,960 you're your interest in and expertise in in cinema. That would be a 802 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,440 great a great stream. Maybe one day, one day, when if when 803 01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:27,880 when if the news the news cycle comes down a bit, maybe we could 804 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,920 we could put together a live show that's that's focused on that. If would 805 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,920 join us, that would be a fun absolute live stream. Yeah it would 806 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,440 indeed. All right, let's uh, let's answer the remaining questions. Alexander, 807 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,920 absolutely call it a night. Let's see Philip. Welcome to the DURAN 808 01:07:46,039 --> 01:07:51,719 community. Ruby Appel says, thank you both for your great videos and keeping 809 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:58,320 us in touch with reality. Thank you. Nikos k and one two five 810 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,800 says Duran. I suffer from depression. So maybe that's why I now believe 811 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:09,199 that no matter the outcome in Ukraine, the world will end in nuclear hell 812 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:15,159 fire. If there's more, Alexander, NATO will never leave Russia despite what 813 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,039 you or they say. The elites don't care if they cause nuclear war, 814 01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:26,159 They'll be in their bunkers while we suffer. People ignore the communism degrading our 815 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,520 culture and the support of the neo and his eyes. I guess my question, 816 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,039 Duran is what's the point of doing what you do right? Well, 817 01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:39,199 I come back to the point I make many times, which is the despair 818 01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:45,560 as a bad counselor if we will give way to despair, then well the 819 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,279 other side wins, and all the bad things that you talk about will undoubtedly 820 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:58,399 happen if we push back. Obviously we by ourselves already a manuscule part of 821 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,760 it. But if we push back, and if other people push back, 822 01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:04,800 then there's a chance, and if had a probability, that it will be 823 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,600 stopped. So there's no point in giving way to despair now. As a 824 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,359 theological matter, and you know, since we've been doing a lot about theology, 825 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,239 I should say that within Orthodoxy, despair is often seen as the state 826 01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:24,920 of sin because it despairs of God's creation, which is of course the world 827 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,840 in which we live, and we should not despair in what God has made. 828 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,680 I agree. Please don't be sad about everything that's going on in the 829 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:42,880 world. We'll make that through. Nikos also says off topic, I know 830 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,399 alex watches the Critical Drinker. Alex have you considered doing a video with nerd 831 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:51,920 Rotic on F and T Vivic appeared there. I think you can. I 832 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:57,159 don't know what F and T is, Alexander, but once again on film, 833 01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:03,199 nerd Rotic and Critical Drinker are us on YouTube film critics, so we 834 01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:06,600 would love to have them on the show. I mean talk about cinema. 835 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:13,479 That would be great. Yeah, but let's Let's let's see how the news 836 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,279 cycle goes, and maybe one day we could we could have a show like 837 01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:19,760 that. It would be our honor to have neurotic and critical drink around the 838 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:27,560 show. Sneedle gifted us Durand memberships. Welcome Snitle to the Durandle also says, 839 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,520 given that the West's diplomatic, financial, military moves all appear to be 840 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:35,520 pushing bricks together and causing the West to lose, is it possible that this 841 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:41,520 is the intent of those who hold sway? Interesting question, you know, 842 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,960 you know, we have this question often in various forms. If they are 843 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:54,920 actually intentionally creating a situation where the West loses and the bricks consolidate and all 844 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,359 of that, then they're not only irrational, but they're illogical as well. 845 01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:04,479 They've all lost all touch with reality because of course, what they're doing is 846 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:11,600 undermining the very power structure which makes them powerful. So I come back to 847 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,399 the point. Maybe, I mean, I'm assuming that you're not suggesting that 848 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,960 these people deliberately actually do want the bricks and the other side to win, 849 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:28,680 but you know that they feel that if they sow the chaos, they will 850 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,600 be able to ride the whirlwind they won't. They'll be swept away. So 851 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:38,960 that is the way it always works. That is the historical truth. That 852 01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:44,600 is historical truth. And of course history doesn't always repeat itself, but it 853 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:50,560 often rhymes. I am Valentina says, will Palestinians ever be free? Yes? 854 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,359 I think they will. I think at one somehow or rather some way 855 01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:00,800 or rather something will happen and they will be free. There will be a 856 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:06,039 system that they will They will have again that freedom to which all people of 857 01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:12,880 all rate, of all nations and all religions are entitled. O. G. 858 01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:15,680 Wall says, good day, Andre's welcome to the direct community. Sesha, 859 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,840 thank you for supersticker that Anna, thank you so much for that amazing 860 01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:26,880 super chat than for that. Sparky says a borderless world run by central authority 861 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,000 will go wrong. We answered that. Garland Nixon, he little Garland says, 862 01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:39,000 free Assange. Absolutely absolutely, Indeed, we'll see what happens and how 863 01:12:39,039 --> 01:12:41,920 it works out. We're all waiting to see what the High Court does in 864 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:49,239 London. M gel Mibsen says, Alex Hexagon shout out a young British lad 865 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:54,680 who makes awesome videos about all these topics. EU globalism. W ef et 866 01:12:54,720 --> 01:13:01,560 cetera, give him a visit. Alex Hexagon for that says love to the 867 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:06,439 Duran family. Sparky says, great to see the great Garland Nixon in the 868 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:12,800 audience. Awesome agreed, Sir Muggs. Game says, what has five eyes 869 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:21,520 yet is legally blind? The Anglo American Intelligence UK brilliant. Sparky says globalism 870 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:31,239 goes against human nature. Peg says the US unsanctioned the largest Russian banks for 871 01:13:31,399 --> 01:13:36,159 energy related trades until the election, all while claiming to sanction China because it 872 01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:43,319 trades with Russia and the industrializing EU with nord Stream. I think we're going 873 01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:47,199 to do a program about that, Alex and I miss facare thing. It 874 01:13:47,319 --> 01:13:50,640 shows, First of all, it shows how important the election is and how 875 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:57,199 difficult the election is becoming, and the fact that the people in the White 876 01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:01,359 House are becoming increasingly scared and increasing nervous that things are not going that way. 877 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,119 But you're absolutely right. You threaten the Chinese banks with sanctions, you 878 01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:14,520 relax the sanctions on the Russian banks. We've had a statement from a House 879 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:19,520 of Commons Select committee that sanctions are a total fail, so we must increase 880 01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:25,960 and tiden up even further the sanctions. I mean, the whole thing is 881 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:31,640 so completely lacking in any kind of logic anymore that you know it's well, 882 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:47,239 words fail me to describe what an absolute message become. Valerie says, Oh, 883 01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:53,720 I'll read that to you after the Sharks. It's about the channel. 884 01:14:54,119 --> 01:14:57,319 I don't want to see it on this show, sorry, Valerie. Sir 885 01:14:57,399 --> 01:15:00,359 muggs Game says, we have from river to the the bridges of the Napier 886 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,079 River, and all the while mister Putin is being a river to his people. 887 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:11,960 Okay, Agu says globalist opposed nationalism in Russia and China. Why then 888 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,560 did they fight the lablique theory. It was an opportunity for them to blame 889 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,960 China and ask for reparations. Well again, I mean, don't look for 890 01:15:21,079 --> 01:15:28,880 logic these people, That's all I can say. Yeah, Cheribo says our 891 01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:32,399 Na culture wars a prelude to an Anglo Saxon meat grinder, or are we 892 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:40,199 safe from the playbook used abroad because we embrace globalism in open borders? Well, 893 01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:44,640 I think that eventually globalism is going to come back to haunt us in 894 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:50,279 the West very badly. Indeed, said what he's doing is it's uniting the 895 01:15:50,319 --> 01:15:56,840 rest of the world ultimately against us, because we see it as weird and 896 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:02,079 disruptive and aggressive and injurant and arrogant all at the same time. And people 897 01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:08,920 are having enough and we are becoming isolated as people want to have as little 898 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,640 to do with us as they can. Valerie says, love the deraim the 899 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,520 ideal company. I would keep compassionate, knowledgeable, reasonable, Christian. Hopefully 900 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:23,359 our paths cross one someday. Absope so too, Valerie, thank you for 901 01:16:23,399 --> 01:16:29,399 that. Martin M. D l says, is economic collapse an accident dollar 902 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:36,439 not global reserve currency? Bring in CBDCs engineered by Biden economic advisors Lael Brainard, 903 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:43,079 Jared Bernstein, leaving wealthy elites and people in poverty. Right. Well, 904 01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:45,600 this is actually an important point because, of course, always what happens 905 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:54,119 in economics is down to human action. It's always important to remember that what 906 01:16:54,319 --> 01:17:01,640 goes on in the human economy is entirely a creation of human beings. In 907 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:09,560 a sense, it is artificial, but it doesn't necessarily follow that it is 908 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:16,079 planned by one group of individuals. So I don't think that they are planning 909 01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:23,640 an economic collapse in fact, if you look at the way in which they, 910 01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:29,079 the people in control in the United States, are behaving, they're trying 911 01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:30,720 to prevent one. They're trying to avert one. They're trying to push it 912 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:39,239 back, but of course they're doing it in a way that risks making it 913 01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:46,039 more likely because at the same time that they want to avert an economic collapse, 914 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:57,000 they also want to retain control, and the mechanisms that they use in 915 01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:03,800 order to retain control ultimately undermine the foundations of the economy. So that's why 916 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:11,199 you have corporatism, that's why you have all of these control mechanisms that Jay 917 01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:15,840 was talking about within the economy. Instead a bit of functioning more smoothly and 918 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:25,560 more efficiently as they pretend, imbalances and problems build up, which is what 919 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,960 we're actually seeing. Dave Shaw, Welcome to the drowned community. Sir mugs 920 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,960 game says, here is wisdom. Put me not into the hands of any 921 01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:41,560 human protection, oh our lady most holy lined from Greek Orthodox but iglsies to 922 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:46,079 the Theotokos. Very simple. Thank you for that, Sir Mug's game. 923 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:53,199 Let's see here, sophistic we did that one a niece. We answered that 924 01:18:53,279 --> 01:19:00,520 as well Communism Incorporated Alexis, could you both please look at China's new revised 925 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,960 company law. It may fundamentally restructure China's business governance. I'd love your thoughts 926 01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:11,199 on its implications in a separate episode. I'd be very interested to see it. 927 01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:15,520 Actually, when I was in China in twenty seventeen, I spent a 928 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,359 lot of time with a banker there and a non Chinese banker, and an 929 01:19:19,399 --> 01:19:23,640 awful lot to tell me about Chinese cat company law, and I'd be very 930 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:29,239 interested to see how it's changing. Nikos Ti says regarding the end of times, 931 01:19:29,279 --> 01:19:32,600 could the Antichrist come from Russia? On some issues? She aligned with 932 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:38,720 globalism, digital money, The West is damned anyways, the devil's goal would 933 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:45,319 be to lead us orthodox astray. I think that it is not within our 934 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:53,920 ability to predict where such a person or being would come from. I think 935 01:19:53,960 --> 01:20:00,319 that is something that we do not have the capacity to know. Jeff Bickford 936 01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:05,680 think if that supersticker Sparky says, many patients who could be cured or at 937 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,439 least treated and given many more good years end up dying in hospice. In 938 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:15,439 the US, the push seems to happen in the last decade. Well that's 939 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,399 I'm not familiar with the situation in the US. But if we're talking about 940 01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:26,239 euthanasia, the campaign for it in Britain is also very strong, and you 941 01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:30,960 know, you find all the usual suspects advocate who you would expect to advocate 942 01:20:31,359 --> 01:20:36,880 for it actually doing so. And it is true that life expectancy is starting 943 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:42,680 to fall in Britain, though I don't know whether that correlates with the spread 944 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,600 of this thing. EU Tech Health says by twenty to fifty, Europe and 945 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:51,640 North America will be down to three hundred million and two hundred million, respectively. 946 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:57,720 If China and India makeup, that is two point eight billion against five 947 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,960 hundred million. He has right about it being a deathicult, psychotic. Western 948 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,600 societies are dying at a rapid rate. China and Russia never had to go 949 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:10,680 to war. Oh yeah, we'll see. I mean, let's just be 950 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,319 clear. I mean, but Russia and China have demographic issues of their own. 951 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:21,159 I think in Russia, unlike US in the West, they are working 952 01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:28,119 towards developing family oriented policies. What they're doing in China, I have no 953 01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:33,399 idea Tabernac says, when new process fails us we really live in error. 954 01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:40,800 Absolutely completely agree. Zariel says this was fantastic. Think you both so much, 955 01:21:41,319 --> 01:21:45,880 okay, Zariel. Jerry says, what's a good objective biography on Putin? 956 01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:51,920 There isn't one short answer. I mean there really isn't. I mean 957 01:21:51,960 --> 01:22:00,119 I've heard of ones that are better and others that are worse. Yes, 958 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,840 but a really good biography of Poutia doesn't exist, at least not in mind. 959 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:12,640 Toby Clear says serious deep truth seekers encouraged to find and try the Masters 960 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,520 in the Path by C. W. Ledbetter nineteen twenty five pdf, or 961 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:24,039 any by Alice A. Bailey or Benjamin Krimm. Thank you for that, 962 01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:30,439 Toby Darren Levy says, could you guys do a vid on the political crisis 963 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:35,720 around Spain's Prime minister's wife? Is it law bear or is there grounds to 964 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:41,000 go after her? Well? I think it's definitely a program we need to 965 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,920 do, and to answer the question, I need to look into it in 966 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,680 more detail, but definitely something we need to discuss. Tabernac says, all 967 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:53,439 three societies have started with one premise. Human nature is cruel, unjust a 968 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:59,720 force to be controlled. Chaos justifies all needs to restore order. I think 969 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,600 the thing that all societies it brings us back to the importance of due process. 970 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:13,840 That all systems of law recognize is that human nature is capable always of 971 01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:20,560 error, and the nature of due process is that it recognizes that fact. 972 01:23:21,159 --> 01:23:30,960 That's why it exists. It doesn't at least, legal systems have always been 973 01:23:30,039 --> 01:23:41,039 mistrustful of any idea of humans being able to make infallible decisions by themselves. 974 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,079 And the fact that due process has gradually been torn up and demolished in the 975 01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:49,920 West, which it is, by the way, is a reflection again of 976 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:57,159 the fact that some people think that they know the answers and can simply impose 977 01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:01,199 them, and that they don't want to have due process get in the way. 978 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:08,159 Colorado Watch says, nobody gets off this train until the locomotive stops. 979 01:24:08,399 --> 01:24:14,560 That's a quote from Douglas McGregor Colorado Watch. Thank you for that. Zarael 980 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:19,199 says, one man made a change, we can follow him. Nick coriol 981 01:24:19,279 --> 01:24:24,920 says, thoughts on the pro Palestinian protests in the USA, They're a huge 982 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:30,880 issue. I'm going to be speaking with somebody who's in contact with what's been 983 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,159 going on in these protests. I think it's important to get a little bit 984 01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:41,279 more because there is so much information and for all I know, misinformation about 985 01:24:41,319 --> 01:24:45,600 it that I'd like to get a bit closer to it. They're making huge 986 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:51,279 impact, by the way, to my knowledge, within British universities. But 987 01:24:51,359 --> 01:24:54,319 as I said, I'd like to get a little bit closer to this, 988 01:24:54,520 --> 01:25:00,439 and since Columbia University is at the center of all of this, into the 989 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,880 news reports. But it's very interested to know what Professor Sachs has to say 990 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:09,279 about all the same thing. Yeah, Matthew says that discussion hosted on this 991 01:25:09,399 --> 01:25:15,199 channel are a tanic. Discussions hosted on this channel. Sam Whiskey says, 992 01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:19,479 if the West is Carthage, will that make Russia the Roman Republic? We'll 993 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:27,760 see. I think that we shouldn't press these analogies too far. The Romans, 994 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:33,039 by the way, spoke about the Carthaginian curse, because of course what 995 01:25:33,119 --> 01:25:39,560 happened was that Rome defeated Carthage and then went back on agreements that it had 996 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:45,960 made with Carthage and destroys it. And some Romans of an old fashioned type 997 01:25:46,359 --> 01:25:53,199 felt that that was the beginning of the Republic's decline and was what eventually led 998 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:58,079 to its fall and its replacement by the Empire. So I think, you 999 01:25:58,119 --> 01:26:02,399 know, the Rush and Russia today probably would not want to go there, 1000 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:11,279 having already you know, escaped its own sort of imperial mission. I think 1001 01:26:11,319 --> 01:26:15,399 it would probably not want to go back to it. Jerry Cogan says future 1002 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:24,720 guest suggestion, doctor Vladimir. Okay, thank you for that. Jerry Sparky 1003 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:29,880 says protests in the US are becoming heavily infiltrated by the FEDS, with many 1004 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,680 agent provocateurs and crisis actors appearing on both sides, so to sew chaos and 1005 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:40,359 violence. You're You're absolutely right, which is exain one reason why I'd like 1006 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:45,399 to get closer to get some more information about what is actually going on, 1007 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:54,920 because there's a huge amount of manipulated information about all of this. There is 1008 01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:00,640 someone I know who is I'm hoping to get in touch with who should be 1009 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,560 able to tell me a lot more. And as I said, I come 1010 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,600 back to this professor, this is Professor sachs Is University. I'll be very 1011 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:12,279 interested to know what he has to say. Iu Techal says, Jay, 1012 01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:15,960 do you think the pop the population is a China strategy. So the w 1013 01:27:16,079 --> 01:27:23,399 EF, WHL gates, DuPonts at all are actually working for China's interests? 1014 01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,800 Are they the only ones who will win? In the Western the pub destruction? 1015 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,640 The Chinese government, in my opinion, at this particular moment in time, 1016 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:40,079 very earnestly wishes that they had not done what they did in terms of 1017 01:27:40,199 --> 01:27:44,680 their one child policy, or or at the very least hadn't kept it going 1018 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:51,159 for as long as they did. So I think that they greatly regret it 1019 01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:59,439 now and are trying to find means to reverse it now. Whether or not, 1020 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:04,520 you know, giving advice to all the d WF people to repeat that 1021 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,279 in the West, I don't think so. I think all of these people 1022 01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:14,079 actually do what they do because they see it just being in their own interests. 1023 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,880 Yea and eutech Health says US and EU moved to a grain based diet 1024 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,239 fast food, also corn and bread. Post World War two, people would 1025 01:28:24,279 --> 01:28:31,079 eat mainly meat and vegetables, jabs, GMO, unnecessary pesticide. It's funny 1026 01:28:31,079 --> 01:28:35,039 if individuals which just stop eating bonded sugars, grains, seed walls, et 1027 01:28:35,079 --> 01:28:40,560 cetera, they would live to be one hundred. That's a huge subject which 1028 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:46,279 I have Mediterranean diet. I just say the best. I completely agree. 1029 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:51,960 Communism Incorporated says atheism is merely the lack of belief in one less God. 1030 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,319 I respect Christians, but I cannot accept the proposition of original sin that lie 1031 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:02,800 at its core. I instead place faith in daring, compassion and love. 1032 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:10,079 I'm not sure that original sin is it's called, but that's a theological discussion. 1033 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,000 We will have another day, Kenneth, thank you for that. Super 1034 01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:17,359 chat Elsa says, I'm confused. Last year we were told that the West 1035 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:23,039 can't find Russia's money. They wanted to cease. Have they found the assets 1036 01:29:23,159 --> 01:29:27,199 now? Yeah? I think I think there was a lot of misdirection there. 1037 01:29:28,119 --> 01:29:30,680 Clearly they haven't found it all, but clearly a large part of it, 1038 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,880 a large chunk of it was there in Europe, clear and they always 1039 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,039 knew it was there. So, I mean, you know, there was 1040 01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:40,479 an awful lot of misdirection. I'm not quite sure why it was done, 1041 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,239 but that's the truth about it. Well. I was reading an article actually 1042 01:29:44,319 --> 01:29:53,319 yesterday on this topic Alexander, and they were saying that the EU was pressing 1043 01:29:53,319 --> 01:29:57,920 the banks very hard to disclose a lot of the information and the way money 1044 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:02,560 was moving. And at first the thanks were resistant, but eventually they disclosed 1045 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,920 everything. Right, Yeah, they crumbled. So that's why we got a 1046 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:10,640 little bit more clarification as to where the money was. That's what I That's 1047 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,239 what I read just the other day. Sir, Sir muggs Game says, 1048 01:30:14,359 --> 01:30:18,920 Alexander, did you ever have the honor of meeting the Late Greek Orthodox Bishop 1049 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:27,119 of Oxford Carlistos where he has amazing lectures on YouTube? No? I didn't. 1050 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:34,319 I never have, partly because I was obviously focused in London and answering. 1051 01:30:35,039 --> 01:30:41,000 Gregorious was a personal friend and before that a friend of my father's, 1052 01:30:41,199 --> 01:30:43,119 so that's how I got to know him, and I got to know him 1053 01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:48,439 very well. Eric, thank you for that supersticker. Kenneth says, any 1054 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:58,159 chance to have Anna's alagi? Michael Jordan of Oil and Gas and Energy explains 1055 01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,800 Nuance about Warren and energy sectors, including sanctions and so on. Well, 1056 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,640 that's an interesting topic and yes, I mean if this question is an expert, 1057 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:10,479 and that might be a very interesting person to actually speak with. Actually, 1058 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,560 if I just can go back to the previous question, I mean, 1059 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:18,600 there is a very, very large English Orthodox community in Oxford, which is 1060 01:31:19,359 --> 01:31:24,479 might be a surprise to some people, but you know, there is a 1061 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:32,520 significant population of Orthodox Converts in Oxford, including some connected to the university and 1062 01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:39,399 within the Church of England. There's been a significant interest in Orthodoxy for some 1063 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:44,840 time now. Eu tech Health says, okay, last one. I have 1064 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,439 the personal belief that Putin attack the Ukraine just to belittle the West. He 1065 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:56,159 is a genius strategist, but analyzing what he does not do, it really 1066 01:31:56,239 --> 01:32:00,920 looks like he was just proving the West to be weak. Common statement in 1067 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,600 Russia. I don't think so. I think that if you actually follow what 1068 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:09,960 Putin said and what he was doing, I think it was a decision he 1069 01:32:10,039 --> 01:32:15,199 absolutely didn't want to take. I think he was massively stressed and unhappy when 1070 01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:18,680 he took it. I think he felt he had to take it because it 1071 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:26,239 was the only way in which he could safeguard Russian security and protect Russians in 1072 01:32:26,399 --> 01:32:29,279 Ukraine. It was, as I said, I think he felt he was 1073 01:32:29,319 --> 01:32:34,600 being led into a trap. He wasn't sure how the Russian people would react, 1074 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:40,119 he wasn't sure how the Russian economy would react. And he said that 1075 01:32:40,319 --> 01:32:45,079 himself, and I think he's been astonished that things have turned out from his 1076 01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:50,640 point of view as well as they have. Scordo says another great another guest 1077 01:32:50,680 --> 01:33:00,239 suggestion, Ragaza mah Adak from the at mahmud Od channel. Right, thank 1078 01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:04,880 you for that. Tabernac says, what goals does he intend to accomplish in 1079 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:13,079 Europe? Et cetera? Who so, who intend to accomplish? Oh? 1080 01:33:13,159 --> 01:33:16,159 Right, Well, I think look, he's coming to He's coming to Hungary, 1081 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:24,880 Serbia and France. So he's he's coming to support Urban and the Serbs 1082 01:33:25,039 --> 01:33:28,560 at a time when they're under an awful lot of pressure. Very interesting that 1083 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:34,840 he's done that, and something that's going to annoy the EU leadership and the 1084 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:40,239 US and the Germans intensely, by the way, just saying, and he's 1085 01:33:40,279 --> 01:33:45,439 also going to speak to Macron because he had a reasonably productive discussion with Macron 1086 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,359 last year, and I think I think he's wrong on this by the way 1087 01:33:49,399 --> 01:33:56,199 that I think he hopes that Macron isn't quite yet a lost cause. So 1088 01:33:56,239 --> 01:34:00,520 I think that's why he's coming the last cast, lost cast, the flip 1089 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,800 flop and lost cast. Eric think for that supersticker Sam Whisky says, how 1090 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:10,159 will sanctions affect the International Space Station? Oh, I think it's almost to 1091 01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:13,079 an end. I mean, the Chinese and the Russians are moving in their 1092 01:34:13,119 --> 01:34:15,640 own directions, So it's the US at the moment. It just about holds 1093 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:23,000 together. But I mean I think that that whole period of it is gradually 1094 01:34:23,039 --> 01:34:27,560 going away. Sir most Game says a river to my people, one of 1095 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:33,680 the famous lines from the film Lawrence of Arabia. Yeah, sophisticated Cavement says 1096 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:39,760 Jay identified the Orthodox Catholic schism as a fundamental cause of the current problems. 1097 01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:45,159 How do you reconcile the fact that the Enlightenment originated from the Western Catholic lineage. 1098 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:49,960 Well, this is a huge subject, and I don't have Jay Jay's 1099 01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:57,479 erudition to be able to discuss this. I think I get to say this, 1100 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,560 and this is a controversial thing. I think, suspect I'm going to 1101 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:11,039 say, but I think that Catholicism encouraged a degree of intellectualism, in other 1102 01:35:11,079 --> 01:35:16,640 words, attempts to second guest God, as the Orthodox pointed out, which 1103 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:21,960 opened the way for enlightenment thinking, because trying to second guest God, trying 1104 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,960 to guess what he's trying to do, trying to understand what he is trying 1105 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:34,439 to do is by definition beyond human ability, and that is what inexorably led 1106 01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:45,640 to the Enlightenment and probably was what Gregory of Parlamas was warning about. Sir 1107 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,399 most Games says, looks like the Russians have incorporated the famous quote you can 1108 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:55,479 move everything, just not all at the same time. Absolutely, they're they're 1109 01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:01,760 approaching this wall. If I could just say in a very rational way this 1110 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:09,239 saying David David says, apartheid Elon Musk is the biggest welfare recipient of the 1111 01:36:09,319 --> 01:36:15,600 US government. To look it up, okay, Martin Medal says, thank 1112 01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:20,520 you for what you both do for us. Thank you. Martin MVP says, 1113 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:26,159 do you think Larry Johnson's presentation at the UN will prompt an investigation in 1114 01:36:26,199 --> 01:36:30,439 the North Stream pipeline. I think. I think the points that he made, 1115 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,920 which were brilliant by the way and superbly set out, are precisely the 1116 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:40,000 reason why we're not going to get an investigation of the events and the North 1117 01:36:40,039 --> 01:36:44,159 Stream pipeline, because, as he absolutely rightly said, all the evidence points 1118 01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:48,640 in one direction, and that person who it points to it has a vtail 1119 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:57,000 on the Security Council. David David says apartheid musk South Africa likes to coop 1120 01:36:57,399 --> 01:37:02,000 Native American president ever Morales Olivia to steal their Lithio. We coop whoever we 1121 01:37:02,079 --> 01:37:09,840 want, Okay, David. Here it says nature is God. Benedict de 1122 01:37:10,039 --> 01:37:18,039 Spinosa Basil Beshka says, does macroon have a Napoleon complex called Russia? Yes, 1123 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:24,319 in a word, he's obsessed by Russia. By the way, it's 1124 01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,720 widely I've forgotten that Putin was one of the first people he invited to France. 1125 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:35,159 And the whole visit by Putin to France at the time, which is 1126 01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:43,079 I believe in twenty fifteen, is just astonishing. It really is incredible to 1127 01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:50,279 see how Macron was treating Putin and lecturing him and trying to get Putin to 1128 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:57,880 understand the genius and brilliance of Napoleon. Macrol Reza, thank you for that 1129 01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:04,079 awesome super sticker. And finally onceec Alexander man O man Zero, thank you 1130 01:38:04,119 --> 01:38:12,439 for that super chat. And George d says, can you get Usi Kozak 1131 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,880 on the show last week mark five hundred days of asylum in the Russian embassy 1132 01:38:16,399 --> 01:38:21,479 as the Australian government wants to lock him up for journalism. I didn't know. 1133 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:26,680 I knew nothing about the story. Okay, well, thank you for 1134 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:30,920 that, George. Well we'll try. Yeah. Elsa says macron is a 1135 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:39,159 synonym for hopeless. Case that true, Alexander final thoughts. Let me do 1136 01:38:39,279 --> 01:38:42,359 a final check and make sure we got all the questions. Any final thoughts 1137 01:38:42,399 --> 01:38:45,399 as we wrap up. Oh, I think I think we need to have 1138 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:49,079 Jay on again. That's that's my final part about this. Its I we 1139 01:38:49,239 --> 01:38:55,439 just touched the surface. There's so much more to say and discuss with him 1140 01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:02,840 about these things, And I mean it's these kind of discussions and conversations are 1141 01:39:03,079 --> 01:39:11,439 necessary again. Once upon a time, when great events happened, people did 1142 01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,560 look below the surface and did talk about the kind of things we talked about 1143 01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:20,840 in this program. The fact that we don't do that anymore is perhaps one 1144 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,920 of the reasons why we are in the mess we're in. So it's good 1145 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,960 that we should have programs like this, and I hope we have another one 1146 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,680 with Jason. Yeah. Colorado Colorado Watch says I should have studied more foreign 1147 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:41,600 policy at university Russian studies CIA recruited at my university, by the way, 1148 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:47,279 so true center at my university as well, there were six was heavily involved 1149 01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:53,000 recruiting people who did Rutian studies. Of that they kept very clear of me, 1150 01:39:53,279 --> 01:39:58,960 by the way, which won't surprise you and BP asks we actually got 1151 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,319 this question well Larry John's presentation at the un prompt in investigation about north Stream. 1152 01:40:03,079 --> 01:40:09,920 I've got that question. Nope, nope, who could have done it 1153 01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:15,119 anyway? All right, Alexander, that's the that's the stream. Thank you 1154 01:40:15,159 --> 01:40:19,159 once again to Jay Dyer. I will have Jay's information as a pin comment 1155 01:40:20,239 --> 01:40:26,239 and I also have his links in the description box. Right now, Alexander, 1156 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,880 that was a great live stream. Thank you to everyone that was watching 1157 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:35,720 us on Rockfin Odyssey, Rumble YouTube and the durand dot locals dot com. 1158 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:41,039 And thank you to our moderators Vally Yes, thank you, Valis, Peter, 1159 01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:46,439 Thank you Peter. I think I saw Tish also in the stream. 1160 01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:51,079 Thank you, Titian's r L. Thank you Ril. And I think that's 1161 01:40:51,359 --> 01:41:00,560 everyone that was moderating this live stream. All right, take care everybody. 1162 01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:00,560 Mm hmm.