WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:51.119 The following presentation isn't Al margat Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around 2 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:55.560 the world. It's time for another edition of The Flat Earth Files, and 3 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:00.399 we have a tremendous guest for you today who will be joining us just a 4 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:04.040 moment, the one and only a Skippius Perditus, who has a tremendous substact 5 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:08.120 that I don't not only subscribe to, but I support financially. Dispatches from 6 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.719 reality. He's going to blow you away. He's been with us on the 7 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.840 fact Under podcast and I've been looking forward to this for a long time. 8 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:22.560 Just two housekeeping items before we kick things off. Number one, make sure 9 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:26.239 you stop by the website the flat earth files dot com. 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But he is one of the better writers on 28 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:45.439 the entire platform of substack in my opinion, and he is Skipio. Ardita 29 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.800 Scipio. Thanks for joining us today. Man, how are you. I'm 30 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:53.240 doing great, George, thanks man, No pressure there, right, No, 31 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.360 I mean it's I love I say all the time. There's millions of 32 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:01.759 people who have YouTube channels, and there's literally hundreds of thousands, maybe millions 33 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:06.159 of podcasts that are out there. But I've always had a certain and I'll 34 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:07.879 be honest with you, almost a jealousy with people who can write, because 35 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:13.159 it's a very special gift being able to take, Like I can sit here 36 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.319 and think of something and say it'd be able to sit down and write out 37 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.240 things in the way that you do. And there's a few other writers out 38 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.159 there who I really admire. It is a really a special talent, and 39 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:28.680 I love reading your dispatches. So it's really a tremendous to have you here 40 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.560 on the program. Yeah. Thanks man. You know, like Rush said, 41 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.280 talent on loan from God, I can't I can't take credit for it. 42 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.039 There you go. Well, why don't you introduce yourself to the listeners. 43 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:47.199 Yeah, I'm a Scipio eruditis pseudonym. I man, My my truth 44 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:53.080 journey has been a it's been an interesting one, you know. So I 45 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.919 my truth journey is really my testimony. You know, in a lot of 46 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:00.840 ways, I believe that the truth is quite literally Jesus Christ. And so 47 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.319 from a young age I was saved and had, you know, grown up 48 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:09.400 in the church, and so you know, I look back on it now 49 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:14.240 and I can see how God was really preparing me to understand some of these 50 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.000 things. And uh, you know, because I'd gone down the you know, 51 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:25.439 fossil trail there and you know, the the worldwide flood. I mean, 52 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:30.000 I was already I believed in a literal, you know, genesis story, 53 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:35.560 and so it's once I, once I understood a lot of that. 54 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:40.519 When you get exposed to flat earth and some of these other concepts, it's 55 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.279 like, oh, yeah, of course, you know. H It didn't 56 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:47.120 take it didn't take me very long too for it to kind of click, 57 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.040 you know, when I was first exposed to it. But that was really 58 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:55.360 I was really one of the last the last stops on the truth train that 59 00:04:55.399 --> 00:05:00.720 I that I stopped off at because yeah, I've I was about a lot 60 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:02.800 of other stuff and then I you know, I kept stumbling upon upon this 61 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:04.959 one. You know, I was like, okay, I'll check it out 62 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:09.560 right. My it's funny enough. My wife is a flat earther actually, 63 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.439 and she was a flat earth when I met her before, before I was 64 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.319 really exposed to it, and I didn't talk about it a ton, but 65 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.040 you know, she she had told me, you know, I'm a flat 66 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.879 Earth, and I didn't really think anything of it, you know. But 67 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:26.759 when I went down that rabbit hit that rabbit trail and started looking into some 68 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.879 of it, she was like, yeah, I told you. Yeah. 69 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.360 And it's one of those things. Once you you see it, it's very 70 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:36.079 hard to unsee it. And it's interesting when I first, you know, 71 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:41.920 got exposed to flat Earth, and then I reread Genesis many times, but 72 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.680 it took me still a couple of years for me to to connect some other 73 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.040 dots. I'm like, wait a second. You know, the Tower of 74 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.839 Babel, you know, if he lose centrism was really a thing. And 75 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:55.959 some people say, oh, that's a stretch. But I actually had Gary 76 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.560 Wayne on the podcast and he wrote a book about Genesis six, and I'd 77 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:05.000 mentioned that, you know, they were literally, you know, the scripture 78 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:11.680 says very clearly that they were using brick and mortar to build this tower to 79 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.399 the heavens to to overthrow God right. And that's where they're building at the 80 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.680 moon, wherever they're going, where they're going to to Saturn and then parlay 81 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:25.079 themselves off the rings to go right. And I don't buy the dimensions stuff 82 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:29.680 so much because you know, and then I get emails from folks about different 83 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:35.759 things. And I think it's just a dangerous precedent to decide what is actual 84 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:41.319 events historical events, because the Bible is very much historical, you know, 85 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.360 as it is the story of Jesus Christ. And I think it's just a 86 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.600 dangerous precedent to say this actually happened, but this didn't. What are your 87 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.800 thoughts on that? Oh, one hundred percent agree. I mean, not 88 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:56.360 only is it dangerous, but it's a fundamentally a historic model to interpret the 89 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:01.759 Bible through, right, So it is just an objective fact that the ancient 90 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:08.439 Hebrews thought that we lived in a you know, a self contained realm, 91 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:13.560 right, and that the firmament was not you know, like space, right 92 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.160 as some people say, uh, some you know, real even fundamentalists, 93 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:20.720 you know preachers will say, right, you know that the third heavens there 94 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:29.120 is actually space, and it's h This has been one of the most interesting, 95 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:34.639 really interesting studies and areas I've gone down right because I uh, for 96 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:40.800 several years I've been really trying to study the history of the church in depth, 97 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:45.680 right, and what the early church fathers believed, what the apostles believed, 98 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:50.920 and how that was practiced and you know, how the faith grew, 99 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:57.480 you know, because it's a I think the proof is really in the pudding. 100 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.680 You know, we have a lot of historical I mean, the historical 101 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.879 evidence that Jesus Christ is a real figure is not even debatable by any serious 102 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.439 academic or scholar. You know. Uh, it's just it's just not We 103 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:16.040 have almost a dozen historical, like very very rock solid historical sources that talk 104 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:22.120 about not just Jesus Christ the man uh and Christians, but also talk about 105 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.279 the miracles that he did. Right, and so the fact that every single 106 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.439 one of the apostles was willing to die for what they saw, I mean, 107 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.200 does that not tell you that the strength of their convictions. It's really 108 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.120 hard to argue with a testimony like that, right, And it's through that 109 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.039 kind of testimony that people have. I mean, you know, Christians have 110 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:48.960 really changed the world, and so I this has to be one of the 111 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.440 most pernicious lies that has been foisted upon the Church. And there have been 112 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.759 many, but this is this is right out there, you know, this 113 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:01.360 is this is the granddaddy of them all. Really is fooling Christians into thinking 114 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:07.080 that we are in this chaotic and personal realm that the universe was not created 115 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.879 for us that there's all this other you know, I mean, who knows 116 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:16.559 if there's right, there's aliens, other life out there. Uh, there 117 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.759 is. Once you start questioning this, and you know, I've I've said 118 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:22.120 it in conversations, you know, with people, as I've brought up this 119 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.320 subject, it's I mean, these are the very first words of the Bible. 120 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.120 If you cannot take God at his word from the very outset, then 121 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.120 yeah, I don't know what we're doing here, you know. I mean, 122 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.840 this is not they're not just pretty allegories. They're not just you know, 123 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.879 uh, myths or symbols. I mean, there definitely is you know, 124 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:48.720 symbolic you know, symbolism and symbology within the Bible. Sure, Uh 125 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.120 you know the prophetic books obviously, you know that's but that specifically states within 126 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.159 the books, you know that these are not literal things that are being witnessed. 127 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.960 I mean that's evidenced by the fact that the prophets, you know, 128 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.240 when they're seeing these things, they don't know what it means. They keep 129 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.960 asking, Hey, what is this, Lord, what is this? And 130 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.840 they're not told for most of the symbols. And so outside of those very 131 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:16.600 specific instances, where you know, just simple logic and the text of the 132 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.200 chapter itself or the book itself makes clear that this is not a literal happening. 133 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.159 Not that literal things don't happen in them, you know, but it's 134 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.320 not entirely a literal thing. We're talking about spiritual and literal things here. 135 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:35.120 But you know, for outside of those very specific instances, the rest of 136 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.080 this is to be and was taken as the literal word of God. Indeed, 137 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.879 and when you mentioned about the apostles, not only were they willing to 138 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.120 die, but my goodness, the way they died. Yeah, really some 139 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.360 of the most horrific manners you could you could die, you know, so 140 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.519 incredible, really well said. And as far as your journey to flat Earth 141 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.840 and you had mentioned that your wife was a flat earth before you guys even 142 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.600 met, But were there online influencers who made me Really that helps you find 143 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:11.080 the truth, whether it be you know, whether it's a David Weiss or 144 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:16.679 any of the big rob Yeah, I actually hadn't stumbled upon any of the 145 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.679 big name people is looking for like a Christian angle to it, you know, 146 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:24.360 because I no offense to you know, those out there who aren't. 147 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.879 But I'm not trying to. I've already learned enough of the knowledge of the 148 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.080 world, you know, I don't need more of it. So I'm looking 149 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.279 for the knowledge of God here and the wisdom of God. And I was 150 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.799 interested in a perspective on that. So there's this podcast it's called the Christian 151 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.960 and Conspiracy Podcast, And you know, I don't agree with one hundred percent 152 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.559 of what they say, but it's the the flower stuff that they have was 153 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.000 very interesting, you know. And they were talking about all the Bible verses 154 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.519 and showing the Bible verses and I was like, Okay, this is pretty 155 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.000 hard to argue with, right, So I mean Genesis one, right from 156 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.600 the very beginning, you know, if I'm just gonna read here in the 157 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.480 beginning, God created the heaven and the earth, and the earth was out 158 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.200 without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, 159 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.279 and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God 160 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.679 said, let there be light. And there was light. And God saw 161 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.360 the light that it was good. And God divided the light from the darkness. 162 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.720 And God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. 163 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.679 And the evening and the morning were the first day. So before there's any 164 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.440 suns, before there is I mean, you know, besides the Son of 165 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.600 God, right before there's any any celestial objects that could create light, light 166 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.519 is already there. And you know, I think one of the very interesting 167 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.919 things too, is you look at the first three, the first three verses 168 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.159 of the Bible here, and you will see God the Father right when he 169 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:52.919 creates heaven. You will see the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, 170 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.559 as it moves upon the face of the waters. And then the word and 171 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:03.879 light both are manifestations of Jesus Christ himself. You see that in the third 172 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:09.559 verse there exactly, and that's actually Skipia. That's a question I get often 173 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.559 from people who are new to the Bible. They say that they ask about 174 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.080 Genesis three. You know, when God said let there be light, and 175 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.919 there was light, And what exactly is the light if there's no sun yet? 176 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.600 Is that representative to the light of God? Is that representative to him 177 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.960 just creating a light too for him to you know, use his you know, 178 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:31.960 to see his creation as he makes it. What is that to you? 179 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.519 Genesis one, verse three? Well, uh, you know, I 180 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.919 don't like when we're talking about the Bible. I try and inject as little 181 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:45.000 personal opinion there as possible. So yeah, I think the Bible is actually 182 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.320 quite clear that, you know, Jesus is the light of the world, 183 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.279 right, and so you know, second Peter one nineteen says, you know, 184 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.960 onto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day dawn and 185 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.919 the day star arises in your heart, you know. And you we see 186 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.519 some of this imagery too, revelation where uh, you know, in the 187 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:07.519 new Heaven and the New Earth, in the New Jerusalem, Jesus Christ is 188 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:13.279 lighting up the entire world and that he is there's no more son at that 189 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.080 point, right, And it's I mean, the entire light of the world 190 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.960 is lit up by Jesus Christ, you know. And so it's it's really 191 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.039 quite amazing. And there's a there's a lot of a lot a lot of 192 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:30.000 references to it, you know, Luke Matthew John John Chapter one, first 193 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:31.320 one right in the beginning was the Word, and the word was God. 194 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.480 The word was with God, and the word was God. Excuse me, 195 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:41.039 uh, And so you know, we see very specifically in a lot of 196 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.879 places that he is the Word, the Word made flesh, and he is 197 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.200 the light of the world. You know. I mean, he is the 198 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.759 embodiment of every good thing, right, he is wisdom, he is truth, 199 00:14:54.159 --> 00:15:03.919 he is knowledge. I mean, that's just his word. It's manifestly 200 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.120 clear in that regard. That's uh, really well said. And you know, 201 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.159 we'll get getting back to the verses. You mentioned one of the other 202 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.559 big verses that I point people to, and I think but on our last 203 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.960 podcast had mentioned it as well, Joshua ten I think twelve and thirteen that 204 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:26.720 kind of talked about the sun and the moon standing still and if we were 205 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:31.919 indeed on a heliocentric system, everybody would just float it out into space. 206 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:37.440 Right. Yeah, there's there's a lot of verses right at the very least, 207 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.159 you cannot say we're in a heliocentric model, you know. I think 208 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.759 it's very clear once you look at them, all the totality that it is 209 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.559 a self contained, you know, a flat earth, and so that I 210 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.120 mean, that's not the only instance too in the Bible where the sun moves 211 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.200 backwards here, so that also happens with Samuel I believe, right he had 212 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:02.720 the you know, the sun moves backwards twelve hours. That's one of the 213 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.639 miracles he performs. And so that's one of the big ones right where it's 214 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.559 like, okay, well, how is this happening under the heliocentric model. 215 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.480 You know, we would have to be hurtling backwards at a you know, 216 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:19.240 extremely and I mean, you know, I guess you can just say, 217 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.159 oh, well, God, God can do whatever he wants, which is 218 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.159 a total cop out. Number one. He can't, you know, he 219 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.159 can't do whatever he wants. He can't do evil things. So it is 220 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.200 the other big one too, the other big one too. That's just you 221 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:40.559 know, I don't know how you kind of get around this if you believe 222 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:44.639 the Bible to be the literal, you know, the inspired, the preserved 223 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.840 word of God. I don't know how you can look at Genesis chapter two, 224 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.919 verse one says, thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and 225 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.320 all the host of them now the hosts. The host of them is talking 226 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.759 about the stars, all the celestial bodies. So one of the titles of 227 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:02.480 God is the word of hosts. And that you know, the angels are 228 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:06.160 referred to as the hosts. And you know, this was one of the 229 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:11.440 first one of the first biblical cosmology or the first biblical cosmology article I did 230 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.079 on My substack was what is a star? Right? And so you look 231 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:21.480 throughout the Bible. The stars are not super hot balls of plasma. Okay, 232 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:26.160 stars are angels. And so if the heavens and the Earth are finished 233 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.160 here and all the hosts of them are finished, then how are we in 234 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:36.759 a constantly expanding universe? Right? And I mean the the heliocentric proponents would 235 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:38.640 tell you that, you know, I mean the Big Bang, Right, 236 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.960 We're constantly exploding. There's new stars, there's new this, there's new that 237 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.440 that is by definition not finished. Okay, that is a constantly expanding creation. 238 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.720 So I don't know how you can reconcile. Oh, yes, there's 239 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.279 new there's new things being created all the time. But also the heavens and 240 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:03.880 the Earth were finished. That's a great one. That that is tremendous, 241 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:07.200 you know, from from the funny but sad files. I saw a mame 242 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.000 yesterday. He said, I used the Bible to show a pastor the scriptures 243 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.920 stating the Earth is flat. So he pulled out a science book and told 244 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:25.359 me that I was wrong. Yep, I think that's not just a that's 245 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:26.680 not just something that happens in our day and age, you know, This 246 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:33.119 is pretty interesting too, as I was kind of you know, picking through 247 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:38.519 the uh, the historical roots of how people interpreted Genesis and how people interpret 248 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:45.559 you know, Christians specifically interpreted Genesis, and so, you know, Augustine, 249 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.880 while he has a lot of you know, he has a lot of 250 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:53.920 knowledge about the word, but there are some areas where he's in serious error, 251 00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:02.519 and I think this is one of them. So he did not believe 252 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:06.240 this to be a literal uh, you know, Genesis to be a literal 253 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.119 thing. It's a the days were literal, but the happenings inside of them 254 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.799 were allegorical. So you already kind of see right where this doesn't really make 255 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:17.559 sense. It's just you know, kind of picking and choosing what you think 256 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:22.160 is acceptable, right, because I mean he even says this that when Christians 257 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.079 were heard talking about this stuff, and you know, the Greeks and all 258 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:33.119 their philosophy people in the gentile world, they would laugh at them, right, 259 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.400 they would. You know, it was entirely it's not about what God's 260 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.680 words said, right. He was like embarrassed of the world hating him, 261 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.000 you know, And so I think it's I think the other thing too, 262 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.599 is even though I do think he is a great man of God, and 263 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.400 he is one of the you know, one of the luminary figures in Christian 264 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.440 thought. That doesn't mean we're still just men, right, And that goes 265 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.240 you know, for for all of us talking about these issues. You know, 266 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:04.440 there's our flesh corrupts our interpretations. Are the circumstances that we're in, 267 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:08.359 you know, corrupt our interpretations. And yeah, our minds are renewed, 268 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.200 but you know, the flesh still hangs on in hell until you're until you 269 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.119 give up the ghosts there. And so he started out, you know, 270 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:22.680 his life in a sex cult, you know, and a Dionysian sex cult, 271 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.160 and so you know, thank God he repented of those those wicked ways. 272 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:32.039 But you got to think that perhaps some of these, some of these 273 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:38.000 ideas and some of these allegorical interpretations that he brought to biblical interpretation. I 274 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.119 mean you got to think it was affected by that, right, And I 275 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:48.880 mean the Greeks were the ones who brought this allegorical interpretation two Christians, right, 276 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:55.039 because when you literally read some of their founding myths and their mythologies, 277 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.640 Yeah, their gods are like raping people and having sex with each other and 278 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:03.440 their children. Uh, it's there's all sorts of incests and I mean really 279 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.559 just disgusting, disgusting behavior. And so yeah, it all has to be 280 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.480 a metaphor. If that's if you if you really think that Jews, you 281 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.720 know, created the universe here, which is what you know these Greek philosophers 282 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:18.839 did, then if you know, if Zeus is going out there raping everybody, 283 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.559 that's you know, just an allegory. You know that's not literal, 284 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.119 right, and it's no coincidence. You know, you're speaking of other Greek 285 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:32.680 mythology that all the NASA missions were named after Apollo and Artemis and these type 286 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:37.759 of things. Oh yeah, a ton of occult symbolism with the moon landings, 287 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.720 with NASA in general, you know, the origins of it as a 288 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:48.759 space agency. And that's not again, not anything new with scientific thought quote 289 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.079 unquote, right, this is I think that's one of the really interesting things 290 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:56.960 about you know, kind of going down this flat Earth rabbit hole too, 291 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.880 is you realize we think we've gotten rid of religion. We think we're you 292 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.119 know, so much smarter than the any chance we have it all figured out, 293 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.599 dude, these scientists will all go out there, I mean, a 294 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.599 lot of them will admit to you. Einstein will admit to you, Stephen 295 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.319 Hawking will admit to you that fundamentally this comes down to a belief and that 296 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.960 some of this data could be interpreted in different manners. And so the fact 297 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:22.960 that they cannot accept that Earth is in a central position, that this was 298 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:27.240 obviously implying that it was placed here, right, that it was created for 299 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:33.079 us. That thought is an athema to them, right, and they would 300 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.799 rather create all these convoluted insane you know. Yeah, we're hurtling through space 301 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.200 at this speed, and you know, and this is moving around, you 302 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.000 know, I mean the Sun is moving around a hundreds of thousands of miles. 303 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.759 We're moving around at tens of thousands of miles. Of moons moving around 304 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.200 at thousands of miles. It's and yeah, nothing just perfectly works out. 305 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:57.720 We're all in balance and we don't smash into each other. It is funny. 306 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:02.880 And we were talking a little bit offline before we hit the record button. 307 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.799 How still did this day? Although I will say that I do believe, 308 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:12.079 and I can see it from my own eyes, that heliocentrism isn't quite 309 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:17.480 as divisive as it once was. In the truth community. However, when 310 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.279 I had my radio shows, that was kind of the unwritten rules, kind 311 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.000 of one of the rabbit holes you don't go down because it was so divisive, 312 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.119 and it's just interesting that, you know, the mantra in the truth 313 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:32.279 community is questioned everything yet you know, except for everything that falls under the 314 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:36.200 umbrella of heliocentrism, and how you just kind of wrapped up your previous statement 315 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:42.039 where everything's just hurtling and spinning and it's just silly. Yeah, it's really 316 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:51.240 like a chaotic ballet here, right, and there's you know, it's and 317 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.799 a lot of this data, right, I mean, these assumptions that all 318 00:23:53.839 --> 00:24:00.279 of these models are built upon. They admit that they basically create things to 319 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:06.039 fit their models, because otherwise their models are totally invalidate. Right. So, 320 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:10.599 uh, you know, before Einstein, Newtonian physics was about to be 321 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:15.839 thrown out because it totally breaks apart at the you know, the molecular level, 322 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.039 and likewise for the celestial bodies it totally also breaks apart, right, 323 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.119 and so it's just like, oh, you know, it's only this one 324 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:27.640 area that it it fits conveniently, you know, And so the formulas are 325 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:32.440 always changing, and the math is always changing, and when you really get 326 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:36.079 down to it, they'll admit a lot of these things you can't get to. 327 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:40.839 I mean, perfect perfection. We're never going to find that here, 328 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.160 right, We're never gonna find that in this realm without Jesus Christ. And 329 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:53.079 so when you reject the fundamental logic of the universe, you you are naturally 330 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:57.079 going to devolve into all sorts of Really, I mean, this is essentially 331 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:03.400 it is neopaganism. It is a sun worship, it's a worship of the 332 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.799 creation, and so many of these you know scientific you know, these luminary 333 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:12.000 figures, Copernicus, Galileo, I mean, read some of their writings. 334 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:18.039 I have, you know, my second Biblical cosmology article Scientism verse science. 335 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:23.039 I go through some of the writings of these men, and it's these aren't 336 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:27.400 scientific books. I mean they read like you know, religious treaties, you 337 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:32.200 know, talking about the sun being enthroned in its temple and everything moves around 338 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:37.640 it. But these aren't. They have a fundamental religious belief and so they 339 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:42.279 see the evidence and they interpret that evidence in light of those religious beliefs, 340 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.839 And I mean you could argue that that's what we're doing as well. But 341 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:48.880 I mean you can't. What you can't say is that we're not you know, 342 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.960 one of us is rational here. The Heliocentrists are the rational ones, 343 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.759 and the flat earths or the geocentrists or the irrational. Uh, you know 344 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:02.279 there are both belief systems required here, right, So you either have to 345 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:07.079 believe that through sheer luck and explosions and all this other really you know, 346 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:15.559 fantastical, the odds are just impossible to calculate that life forms and all these 347 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:26.200 amazingly intricate bodily functions that just all happened through random trial and error. Or 348 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.960 you can just believe that God gave us his word and he told us. 349 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.559 I mean, he told us everything we need to know in that word. 350 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:40.359 Indeed, and I've said before, if let's just say you found some guy 351 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.279 on a desert island. He was born and raised there, he didn't know 352 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:47.200 anything from anything, and you showed him that the two models, one of 353 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:52.519 heliocentrism and one of the flatterth for someone who like just completely new to everything, 354 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:57.000 who didn't understand science whatsoever, which one do you think is going to 355 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:02.200 make more sense to him? I mean, I think the fact that you 356 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.759 know, most of the ancients thought it was a geocentric or a flat plane. 357 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.519 Is is evidence of it? Right? You know it was not without 358 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.799 the Greek philosopher. Is that we start, you know to see these uh, 359 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.799 some of these theories pop up and stuff. So it's which is really 360 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.160 not They're not the ones that started it, you know, truly. Uh, 361 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.680 this is the worship of the sun, the worship of you know, 362 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:29.640 Venus Lucifer. This is this is the oldest fight in all a mankind, 363 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.079 right, and so it is, it's the original fight. It's the longest 364 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:38.880 war. I mean, that's that's just something that every Christian you just have 365 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.359 to accept. Right, we were all born into a war. And so 366 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.559 if you don't realize that you are just right for the plucking, you're right 367 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.400 for the plucking. If you think, you know, the devices of the 368 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.680 enemy and the lies that he spreads have stopped. Right. Oh, yes, 369 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.920 he was spreading all this evil pagan religion in the old days. But 370 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.359 he just stopped, you know, he just stopped. That's absolutely not the 371 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.559 case, absolutely not. Yeah, And you look, you want to talk 372 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.599 about the wars, you want to talk about from Martin Luther to King James 373 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.200 that hundred years span. That was quite quite a word. And that's really 374 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.319 when it it kind of transferred from the Greeks, and then the Jesuits took 375 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.960 it in the early fifteen hundreds and ran with that with Copernicus. And there's 376 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.759 a lot of writings that say that Martin Luther actually at the table, you 377 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.200 know, said heliocentrism was basically a tool in the devil's toolbox. Yeah, 378 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.480 that was one of the really interesting things too. Right, It's like, 379 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:40.480 not very long ago was this still accepted widely accepted within Christendom, and even 380 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.880 you know, even well until the eighteenth century and nineteenth century. Now you 381 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.119 see some of the yeah, the nineteenth century and particularly see a lot of 382 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.240 this literature trying you know, start popping up. And again, you know, 383 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.799 they have their their theory of evolution, they have their uh, you 384 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.720 know, their Einstein right, a theory of relativity. Every time that there 385 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:07.680 seems to be this upsurge of finally putting down this knowledge, right, this 386 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.920 demonic deception, they have some new, some new fancy theory to explain why 387 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.920 actually all the stuff that the Bible says is wrong. It's interesting you mentioned 388 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.880 that I had a listener from Jamaica asked me about King James, and of 389 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.559 course King James I think four years before he took charge and edited the Bible 390 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.880 or translated. Excuse me, he did write a book about demonology, but 391 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:38.119 he was anti demonology and he actually championed witch burning. Yeah, yeah, 392 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.880 I mean there is a bit of a misnomer about you know, that he 393 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:47.680 funded the translation of it, right, He had no mean, he wasn't 394 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.279 a biblical scholar, you know, so he wasn't out there translating it right. 395 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.559 It was a you know, a team of people here really and I 396 00:29:53.599 --> 00:30:00.759 think you know, that's one of the big areas too that I think is 397 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:06.200 very important and one of the biggest reasons why we've had so much confusion about 398 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.920 what does you know? What did God actually say? Right? I mean, 399 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.079 this is the first, this is the first temptation. You know, 400 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.400 what did God say? We know better? We have our own you know, 401 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.640 man made wisdom that you know, the knowledge of good and evil, 402 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:26.279 that we can decide what's what's right and what's wrong. And so this is 403 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:33.759 you know, there's a lot of I don't know, a lot of this 404 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.039 internet, you know, atheism, and there's a great deal of it and 405 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.519 the truth or community. It's just really built upon a lot of ahistorical stuff. 406 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.079 They're just kind of picking and choosing the information that they want to accept. 407 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.960 There is a you know, this idea, right that the Bible was 408 00:30:52.000 --> 00:31:00.400 created by Constantine. That's not true. The Texas receptis is what the King 409 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:07.880 James version was translated from, right, And this is founded upon the oldest 410 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:14.640 running biblical manuscript that we have. So it's a you know, mid first 411 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:19.759 century U, no later than two hundred BC. This is compiled, and 412 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.720 so we have very early on. All these texts are compiled the sixty six 413 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:30.640 Books of the Holy Bible, not that there are not other texts written from 414 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.480 that time period that are you know, good to read. I think the 415 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.519 Deutero Canon, you know, called sometimes the Apocrypha. I do think those 416 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.200 books are good for us to read, knowing that they're not on the same 417 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.519 level as you know, holy scripture, just like you know you would read 418 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.079 a Bible study or you know, you read some modern guys, you know, 419 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.480 I mean, right, like my own writing a different version of it. 420 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.039 You know, we're just trying to trying to piece out here and trying 421 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.759 to understand what the word actually says, you know. And so it is 422 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.880 very early on this book has been because God, you know, he makes 423 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.000 this promise in the Bible that his word will always be preserved. I think 424 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.160 this is a really big thing, and it's one of these things where you 425 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.519 can't you can't say, oh, well, we believe in the word of 426 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:21.640 God in its original text. That's not what he has said about his own 427 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.599 word. He said that he would always have that word preserved. And so 428 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.160 when you look at the formation of you know, the White Left Bible eventually 429 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:37.680 turning into King James version of the Texas receptis the Syriac Codex. These are 430 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:43.279 this is the long This is that pure thread of God's word that he has 431 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:49.000 preserved through the ages for us, you know, and so as we have 432 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:54.960 moved forward in time. I mean a lot of these translations, I can't 433 00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.240 really even call them the Bible. You know, when you're denying that hest 434 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.599 and miracles, which is just a historical fact, when you're denying that he 435 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:08.519 came out of the tomb, which again is you may not like that fact, 436 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.920 but there are plenty of eyewitnesses, hundreds of eyewitnesses in fact, that 437 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.640 would testify to that fact, and then most of them died because of that 438 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:24.200 fact. And so I just it's it's one of those areas, you know, 439 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.759 when you started you start reading some of this stuff and you start really 440 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.400 picking through the actual history of the church, you know, not, I 441 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.680 mean a lot of this stuff is just like straight up fabricated stuff, man. 442 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.000 You know, like this this uh a lot of these myths around the 443 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.559 pagan gods having being born on December twenty five or being born of a virgin, 444 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.400 you know, like this gets thrown around with Mythra a lot. Right, 445 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.039 he was born of a virgin, he was born in December twenty fifth, 446 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:57.640 Mythra was born from a rock, right, So I guess you could 447 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:02.119 call that a virgin. Not though, but uh right, this is there's 448 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:08.199 just no there's really no substance some of these very spurious claims. And it 449 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:13.280 seems to be kind of a modern phenomenon. Really. Most of this literature 450 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.760 is within the last century that's pushing some of these ideas, and so it's 451 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.920 there is just there's so many lies, there's so many obfuscations, there's so 452 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:30.440 many deceptions, you know, and it's just I really can't blame people for 453 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.199 for not knowing you know, where to turn in all this. Yeah, 454 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.920 and I know you just mentioned deceit and the controllers, so I guess that 455 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.280 that's one of the things that I have on my list. So we'll transition 456 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.159 to that now. And the very first episode I did, I guess now 457 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:52.519 it's been ten months ago or so, was why the lie? And again, 458 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:59.559 I think that so many people don't really understand, like you said then, 459 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.599 and that's something I've adopted, calling it the Granddaddy of all deceptions, 460 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.559 and it truly is. There's so many. You know, there's the giant 461 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:13.440 rabbit hole of flat Earth or slash Elio centrism, whatever you want to you 462 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:20.400 know, Hilly centrism being the deceit hiding flat Earth. But there's truly dozens, 463 00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.519 if not hundreds of sub rabbit holes that that fall into flat Earth. 464 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.679 I mean, you have NASA, you know, it brings control and power, 465 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:37.679 it hides God. It really is the ultimate rabbit hole. And the 466 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.800 it really speaks to it the level of propaganda and and deceit that they use. 467 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.360 Like I always talk about it. If you're in the office around the 468 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:53.559 water cooler, you can mention the JFK assassination and things of that nature. 469 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.639 And nobody's going to bat an eye right that that's oh cool conspiracy theories. 470 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.239 But if you mentioned flat earth, you get the eye roll and people will 471 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:06.159 walk away, they'll scatter, like turning on a light in the cockroaches scatter, 472 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.960 and that what that goes to show to me is really the level of 473 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:15.360 effort they put into the propaganda to get people to believe that. Like, 474 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.960 so, here's the thing to me, I've always said that Alex Jones is 475 00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:24.079 controlled opposition and part of his, part of you know, playing the role 476 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:30.480 is when normy here's the term conspiracy theorist, they close their eyes, they 477 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.039 think of Alex Jones with the tinfile, excuse me, the tinfoil hat. 478 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.840 When they hear flat earth, there's they they think of somebody who just has 479 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.440 no critical thinking skills. They're low i Q and they just watch a lot 480 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.840 of YouTube channels. But what that speaks to is the amount of effort and 481 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.599 time that they put into this. And for folks who have never read up 482 00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.639 on Edward Burney's he was like the grandfather of propaganda, and he got people 483 00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:00.599 to smoke, he got people to spray, Carson and Jen Nix on healthy 484 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:06.599 things in their yard like dandelions. Just the king of propaganda. And by 485 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.599 the way that that family lineage runs to Netflix today, the propaganda is real. 486 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:17.119 And I guess my question is to you, is I think people don't 487 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:22.599 really appreciate how much time and effort goes into like all the things I use 488 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.400 the term controllers, right, and they're the people who bow to the altar 489 00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.599 of Satan and they get worldly powers and riches. But we know how the 490 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:37.679 story ends for them, indeed, But sadly, even people who are and 491 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.719 again listen, folks, you don't have to be a flat earth to be 492 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.760 saved. However, this is another one of Satan's tools to deceive people, 493 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:53.840 and it does hide God. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's uh yeah, 494 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.119 it's not a salvation issue at all. You know, you gotta believing 495 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:02.920 in Jesus Christ, actually believing in him right, receiving him, taking him 496 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:08.079 into your heart, and allowing him to change your life. That is, 497 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.639 you know, that's the only road to salvation, right, is through the 498 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:20.280 sun. And so everything, really, everything that the enemy does is built 499 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.480 around tearing this fact down. You know, who's out here trying to tear 500 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.960 down Buddha. You know, no one's trying to tear down Buddha, right, 501 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.519 I mean now people will trying to tear down Mohammed, you know, 502 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:37.159 but still a lot of people big fans of them. It's uh, there 503 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.079 only seems to be one prophet, There only seems to be one religion that 504 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.800 no matter where you go, it is met with hostility. Right, and 505 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.760 again Christ promises this. He promised that if you know the world hated me, 506 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.800 imagine how they will you know, what they will do to you. 507 00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:00.239 I mean we are promised these uh, we are promised these things. Right 508 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.480 if if you're not, if you're not suffering slings and arrows, if you're 509 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:10.360 not, yeah, if the world has not turned, it's ire onto you. 510 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.280 Right, if you're not getting out there and spreading the message, I 511 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.519 think there might be I think there might be a problem, right, I 512 00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:22.599 think there might be a little bit of a problem, because anyone in the 513 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:30.880 arena, we are promised all of his children, we cannot be children of 514 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:34.840 the world and children of Christ, right, we cannot. You know, 515 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.360 the suns of darkness and the suns of light they cannot mix together. And 516 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:44.480 so this is you know, you talk about the controllers and just the level, 517 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:54.639 the level of planning and just absolute control here it is. It is 518 00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:59.159 again one of these fundamental It's a spiritual thing at the end of the day, 519 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:04.199 like real all things are. It is not that people don't know a 520 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.119 lot of this knowledge, right, Like they'll know about JFK and we'll know 521 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.519 even more and more people are known about nine to eleven. And you know, 522 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:15.119 at the time of the moon landing, even thirty percent of America didn't 523 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.480 think we went. And it is there's been a lot of people that have 524 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.800 the knowledge, right, but it's like putting the pieces together and going that 525 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:29.679 next step. Well, that just forces me to acknowledge that there is a 526 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:35.000 very, very malevolent and evil force that has bent upon the destruction of mankind, 527 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:42.639 and that naturally begs the question what is the opposing force? What is 528 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.800 the good force? And so for a lot of people, the idea that 529 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:52.000 there is this otherworldly, malevolent entity that has worked thousands of years to destroy 530 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:58.239 Christ as church, it is it's a lot to wrap your mind around, 531 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.760 you know, and even for Christian even for Christians who will claim that they 532 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.639 believe, you know, even I think people that really do believe Jesus. 533 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.039 You know, it's that next step mentally of like, oh wow, yes, 534 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.800 this is this is Lucifer's realm. He has control of this, you 535 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.880 know everything. Right. You thought all those you know, you're Christian founding 536 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.400 fathers quote unquote, you thought they are a bunch of good people. Hope, 537 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:28.280 not quite. I've exposed two of the most revered quote you know, 538 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:32.840 presidents in American history. I've exposed Lincoln and Reagan as absolute falls. So 539 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.760 if I know people, if you haven't heard this episode, but I'm here 540 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.639 to tell you that Abraham Lincoln was the most tyrannical president in the history of 541 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.519 this country. He makes Obama look like a girl scout, you know, 542 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:52.719 you know, threatening and actually ordering the arrest of Supreme Court justices, illegally 543 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:58.559 making states, throwing upwards just twenty thousand of his own Union citizens into jail, 544 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.599 closing down news papers. I mean, it was wow, it was 545 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.719 some next level stuff. But again, these people think because thanks to our 546 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.239 good friends, the Rockefellers, who were funded by the Rothchilds, they've taken 547 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.400 over the education system, and the way our education is set up today is 548 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.880 you know, they control the books, they control the history, and it 549 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:23.800 must be true. Indeed, indeed it's uh, yeah, it might be 550 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:30.199 a little bit biased as h you know, Native Dixie residence here, but 551 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.440 it is truly no. Put everything in all the propaganda. It wasn't about 552 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.760 slavery, you know, but put all that aside. You cannot force people 553 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:45.920 to be part of your compact at the barrel of a gun. Right, 554 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:51.519 That is not self governance. That is not that is not There is no 555 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:58.960 consent of the government if when you withdraw your consent they come to your farm 556 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.719 and they burn it down and they slaughter your family and all of your livestock. 557 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.679 I mean Sherman's march through Georgia. I went to high school in Georgia. 558 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:13.880 So this is actually one of the areas where they they'll actually teach you 559 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.840 some stuff, you know, in history. And I mean this was this 560 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.239 was a legitimate war, Crock Honestly, if the war had ended in a 561 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:28.199 different manner, these Sherman would have been in jail, he would have been 562 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.880 hanging, okay. And you know, just so happened to be a freemason 563 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:36.599 naturally, yep. And so this is, yeah, this is one of 564 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.639 these wars where there's been so many lives and so much, I mean, 565 00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:45.920 just straight up just I mean, mythology built around it. You know. 566 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.960 So there was a huge immigration push by the North during the Civil War, 567 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.760 and so between all of the foreign i mean foreign mercenaries, because that's what 568 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.400 they were, right, they went, they sent recruits to Europe and they 569 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.880 promised military age, males, American citizenship, and gold upfront if they came. 570 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.360 So they got a gold signing bonus. And then they came to America 571 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:15.599 to you know, kill us. So between them and the child soldiers, 572 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:21.400 that's like a third of the Union army right there. That's right, This 573 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.079 is not an insignificant amount. And I mean most of their most of their 574 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.199 ability to out manufacture the South, and you know, the numbers advantage that 575 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:35.239 they had over the South. This was this was not the case in the 576 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.440 early years of the war. You know, it was only after really really 577 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:43.360 massive waves of immigration, some of the first largest waves of immigration into America 578 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.719 that you you know, that it finally starts turning in their favor. And 579 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:52.360 I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of Freemasons within that war as 580 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.679 well. Right, I'm I'm personally of the opinion that a lot of these 581 00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:02.679 wars are orchestrated on both sides. There are people placed into positions of power, 582 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:08.960 and I mean this is uncanny really how there are high level Freemasons at 583 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:14.039 the helm of American governments or I mean really governments in the world. Right, 584 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.480 if you look at all these various different wars, the War of eighteen 585 00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.320 twelve covered that in my Anatomy of a Revolution series, And I mean that 586 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:27.199 the War of eighteen twelve, every single leader on this war, you know, 587 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.440 between the French, the British, the Americans, every single one was 588 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.119 a member of the Freemason That's right. I mean, I guess you can 589 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.719 call that a coincidence. Right. So it's like this is one of those 590 00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.599 things where they have again, all they have is name calling. All they 591 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.880 have is obfuscation, because when you pour through the actual historical evidence and the 592 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:51.639 physical evidence their own words, you know, they'll admit to all this stuff. 593 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.320 I mean, most of my sources are Freemasons themselves. They'll they'll freely 594 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.920 and very happily admit a lot of this stuff. Now they'll claim that, 595 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.400 you know, me putting all these puzzle pieces together, this is just you 596 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.159 know, favorite imaginations of conspiracy theorists, right, and I guess right, 597 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.920 or I guess you can believe like other Freemasons like Edward Waite. Uh, 598 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.679 you know, high level magicians who admit that they are worshiping a Lucifer. 599 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.480 They certainly are. And uh, you know, just read Morals and Dogma, 600 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.280 the thirty three chapters and that it's uh and your newest by the way, 601 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:36.159 uh, your your newest dispatch from reality in your sub stack that is 602 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:40.599 actually just released today as we're recording Crafting Cartel Part one talks about mafia and 603 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.559 the freemasonry. Do you want to chat a little bit about that and what 604 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:50.599 it's about. Yeah, yeah, man, that's been a very that's been 605 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.239 a very interesting, uh kind of rabbit bolving going down the past couple of 606 00:46:54.239 --> 00:47:00.679 weeks. You know, I mean, the the historic ties between the American 607 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:06.760 government and criminal you know, organized crime, the mafia. This is pretty 608 00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:10.800 well established within the twentieth century. You know, stuff like Operation Underworld and 609 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:20.280 Operation Gladiol within Italy afterwards without you know, the mafia without without the Sicilian 610 00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:27.159 Mafia effectively acting as an American intelligence agency during World War Two. A lot 611 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:31.239 of these invasions are not successful. It is. It's pretty staggering just the 612 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:37.000 you know, just within the last one hundred years, how much how much 613 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:42.719 of handing glove enterprise, these two entities have been, you know. And 614 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:51.079 so I think it's really at the most fundamental level, secret societies are organized 615 00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.760 criminal outfits, and organized criminal outfits are secret societies. I mean, there's 616 00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:00.000 almost a distinction without a difference when you're starting to get into this stuff, 617 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.960 if you're talking about just different manifestations of essentially the same beast here, and 618 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.239 it is they all they have blood ups, they have initiations, they have 619 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:15.320 secret pass codes. I mean, really, these organizations, there's no difference 620 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:22.000 between their criminal activities, their political activities, their religious activities. This all 621 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.639 is working towards the same goal, you know. And so the eighteenth century, 622 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:32.039 and excuse me, the nineteenth century in particular is the century of revolutions, 623 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:38.440 and so there is you know, from seventeen seventy six to nineteen seventeen 624 00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:45.840 there are so many monarchies, so much world governments collapsed, overturned, and 625 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.400 that is the century where we have the coalescing of you know, international finance 626 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.599 and the central bankers, you know, a kind of this this mishmash between 627 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.239 you know, the mystery religion represented by Freemasonry, the governments of the world, 628 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.480 these criminal organizations. I like to refer to them as the regime in 629 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.360 my writings, and it's this is the century where the regime really metastasizes, 630 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:19.119 when they really take control here. And it's just time after time after time 631 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:24.119 after time, the secret societies pop up in countries. They start preaching, 632 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:30.280 you know, about liberty and equality and democracy. You know, does that 633 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.760 sound familiar to maybe some stuff you've heard lately. Yeah, And so they 634 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:40.239 topple the government, they overthrow them, most of them Christian governments. And 635 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.599 so in the aftermath of this chaos, the central bankers move in, you 636 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.599 know, after the French Revolution. A couple of years later you get the 637 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:53.679 creation of the French you know, the Central Bank of France. The Japanese 638 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.719 with the Meiji Revolution, which in Japanese means enlightened rule. I mean, 639 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.800 this is a this is a ma Masonic revolution in Japan, which I write 640 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:07.880 about in the Atomic Edition, Part three. It is really all of these 641 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:14.719 world revolutions, this movement that you see during the nineteenth century in particular, 642 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:21.199 it's just this is beyond coincidence. Right, This is beyond coincidence, and 643 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:27.840 it's there is no way that in all these different countries for I mean we're 644 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.920 talking about one hundreds of years here. Every single time they got the same 645 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.760 script, and they got the same goals, and we got the same outcomes. 646 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:42.159 And we see these people still working together today. And here's a question 647 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.039 for you before I expand a little bit more on something, is do you 648 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:51.360 think, because there are many secret societies Skull and Bones, Freemasons, the 649 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:57.679 Jesuits, do you think there's a pact between them or do you think there's 650 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:06.400 a struggle for power within those societies themselves. I you know, it really 651 00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:10.039 depends upon the era. Now, I would say they pretty much have it 652 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:16.559 sewn up. And they pretty much have it sewn up there is because I 653 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.840 mean, this is the thing about psychopaths really, which is what these people 654 00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:27.519 are. As long as they're all eating, yeah, you'll have your blood 655 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.559 fights and your fuse and stuff, right, but a lot of these problems 656 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.039 they learned a long time ago that they're not going to solve any of these 657 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:37.400 problems by constantly killing each other. So they just had a lot of intermarrying 658 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:42.320 and that solved most of their problems. So, I mean, these are 659 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:46.360 just very inbred people, to be frank, which is why so many of 660 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:52.480 these really aberrant psychological traits continue to show up within these bloodlines. You know, 661 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.760 maybe you didn't know this, but Anthony Fauci on his mother's side, 662 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:04.760 his great great grandfather, he was the head of chemical warfare in Switzerland. 663 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.559 He was. I mean, this is one of the first countries in the 664 00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:14.840 world that had like a governmental department for biological warfare. The Abyss family, 665 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:21.360 Abys and their family crest is a serpent eating a child. Well and the 666 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:22.480 serpent. Dude, I can't make this up. Okay, I know this 667 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.159 sounds insane. You can go look it up. The Abys family, the 668 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:31.880 Abyss family. Yeah, which again write another reference to uh to shield here, 669 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.800 you know, the pit h Jesus calls it, you know, abyss 670 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:42.559 hades. A lot of these words are used kind of interchangeability within the New 671 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.039 Testament. They're all referring to this same you know, the same place and 672 00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.679 the King James version you know that calls them all hell and stuff, which 673 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.960 is accurate. It is hell, you know, but again it's you lose. 674 00:52:54.199 --> 00:53:01.480 I guess something in the h the translation a bit that's interesting, but 675 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.079 from the files of interesting. But after everything we've come across, I'm certainly 676 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.159 not shocked. And two things I'd like to kind of bounce back at you. 677 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:16.920 One thing is I did an episode maybe six months ago talking about how 678 00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:22.079 Switzerland. If you ask again, if if you stood in front of Walmart 679 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.159 and that's one hundred people, but they thought of Switzerland, They'll tell you, 680 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:29.800 Oh, they have great chocolate and beautiful mountains. Right. I've done 681 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.719 so much research into Switzerland and I truly believe and there's actually, if you 682 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:37.840 look hard enough, that there's a few very interesting articles that argue that is 683 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:43.480 really where the evil is really ruled upon today, especially in the city of 684 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:47.840 Bassel, where cern the World Economic Forum, the International Bank of Settlements, 685 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.880 and you look at that building, the biss BIS, the Bank of International 686 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.199 Settlements, it kind of looks like a tip of the hat to the Tower 687 00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.440 of Babel and the Rothschild's that's their home. There's you know, on and 688 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:06.079 on and on. Is that anything that you've looked into? Oh, yeah, 689 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:10.840 absolutely, I'm if there is a head of the snake anywhere, Switzerland 690 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.159 is one of these places, you know, there's I know, there's like 691 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.679 a lot of talk. Right, we got the city of London, we 692 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.559 got Tel Aviv, we got Washington, DC. Man, you you have 693 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:27.119 to have Basil, Switzerland and that little constellation there of evil. Yeah, 694 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.880 and that is where the World Zionist Organization kicked off activities in eighteen ninety seven, 695 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:37.159 and that was really, you know, started the ball to getting the 696 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.840 World Bank and to getting these federal reserves. Because again, if you don't 697 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.800 have the Federal Reserve, do we even have a world war? Are we 698 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:52.039 able to fund these type of events? I think there's a reason. You 699 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.440 know, you had the Titanic. They got the people who opposed the banks 700 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.880 out of the way. Then they brought the Federal Reserve right before Christmas and 701 00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:04.639 I thirteen when everybody was heading home for Christmas, and then you had two 702 00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.320 world wars. Now, the other thing I wanted to touch on because since 703 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:12.199 we're talking about secret societies, I covered something a few months ago that nobody 704 00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.639 I don't think has ever talked about before. So when Ronald Reagan was elected 705 00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:20.480 in November of nineteen eighty going into nineteen eighty one, and folks will get 706 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.400 back in a flat earthIn a second. Sometimes these conversations take natural turns, 707 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.800 and I think that's people like that stuff. But if you remember, we're 708 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.199 got out about the October surprise and how Reagan and Bush made a deal with 709 00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:42.360 the Iranians to hang on to the hostages. Yeah, and like literally ninety 710 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:47.480 minutes after Reagan was sworn in, the Iranians released the hostages. And there's 711 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.559 old video clips you can find on YouTube in January and February of nineteen eighty 712 00:55:52.599 --> 00:56:00.760 one where this story is coming out. So here's the thing. Ronald Reagan 713 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:07.199 was supposedly shot by John Hinckley Jr. He shot Brady in the head and 714 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.440 this guy did it to get attention to Jodie Foster. Well, it's interesting 715 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:15.400 because the date this happened was March thirtieth. So there's your three three Jodie 716 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:21.840 Foster. Anytime you see somebody's bio and you say, yelle, you need 717 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.039 to check out because flag. Yeah, what folks don't know. Now, 718 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:30.440 everybody knows Skull and Bones Bush, right, they know that link. But 719 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:37.159 the female version is called the Manuscript Society, and Jodie Foster was part of 720 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:44.039 that secret society. So all involved, including the Hinckley's, which were very 721 00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:49.320 close friends with the Bush family. So all these there's nothing organics. So 722 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.639 I even argue that Ronald Reagan, the actor, he never even got shot. 723 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:57.000 I agree with you. There there's a lot of weird stuff without Reagan 724 00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.280 shooting. You know, he claims he's not He doesn't even realize as he's 725 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.639 shot until you know, like thirty minutes later or whatever, which is just 726 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.079 I mean ridiculous. You know, like, dude, I mean you've been 727 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:12.079 in combat. You know when you're shot, who was shot? And the 728 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.800 agony and it still haunts me to this day. People know when they're shot, 729 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.880 Oh yeah, okay, you know it's uh yeah, the idea that 730 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.320 this minutes and minutes would go by and you have no idea. Oh hey 731 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.960 you no, I'm bleeding. I don't know what that is. Yeah, 732 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.440 And the movies where you see the guy gets shot, he's like, Johnny, 733 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.239 tell my wife, I love her. You know you're in agony in 734 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:38.679 pain man. Indeed, Yeah, that's uh. These the presidential assassinations are 735 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:45.159 very I have a bit of an interesting take on a lot of them, 736 00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:49.800 similar to your Reagan take. You know, Dave mcgallan's got this incredible piece. 737 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.199 He kind of opened my mind up to this possibility, and I've been 738 00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:59.079 just looking for more information about this subject. And it's the level of really 739 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:05.000 parallels with some any of these big presidential assassinations are staggering, you know, 740 00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.519 but you're really pour into some of the actual physical evidence and the eyewitness testimonies 741 00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.239 and stuff. Right man, these stories are just they don't make sense. 742 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.119 They don't make sense. And there's see you know, there's occultists and Secret 743 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:22.440 Society members all throughout them right playing their little parts. And it is you 744 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:27.519 know, like take a look at the GfK assassination, the autopsy photos. 745 00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:30.920 I mean that's not JFK. No, that's just not him. You know, 746 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:37.599 there is there's a very interesting I mean, this is kind of like 747 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.119 the last piece of the puzzle. Actually, when I saw this, I 748 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:45.199 was like, oh, okay, this makes sense now. So these people 749 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:50.280 derive all of these occult traditions from the Tower of Babble, from Babylon, 750 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:53.920 right, this is not just the the physical location, but I mean, 751 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.880 you know, the spiritual there is a spiritual aspect and the spirit of mystery 752 00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:04.000 Babylon these people are trying to invoke and you know, that they ultimately worship. 753 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:10.119 And so in ancient Babylon there was a ritual called the killing of the 754 00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.079 King ritual, and this shows up in a lot of world cultures where the 755 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:22.480 king would be sent into hiding for an indeterminate amount of time and they would 756 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.559 pick a body double that looked like the king and he would live as the 757 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.639 king for a certain amount of time, and then at a you know, 758 00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.920 after whatever time period, depending on the king, you know, some of 759 00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:37.960 them are more paranoid than others, you know, so they do the ritual 760 00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:43.360 lot more. And so at the end of this ritual time period, they 761 00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:47.079 would sacrifice the king. And this ritual was thought to bring you good luck 762 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.840 and fortune and favor to the king. Right, this is where this saying, 763 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.280 right, the king is dead, long lived the king. That was 764 00:59:54.320 --> 01:00:00.519 what they invoked in this ritual here. And so it's the idea that so 765 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.480 many of these presidential assassinations, I mean, yeah, there's all sorts of 766 01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:07.400 deep politics going on behind them and why these happening, you know, but 767 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.679 I think some of the bigger name ones, when you really look at some 768 01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:14.559 of the evidence, it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. 769 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:21.679 And so the stories don't match. There's occultis abound. This Reagan you know 770 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.280 incidents is another perfect example. And I think this is like the last presidential 771 01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:30.639 attempted presidential assassination we've had. You know, he broke I forget the name 772 01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:35.599 of the curse, like that presidential assassination curse, you know, quote unquote, 773 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.360 Like is it really curse when you're doing it every twenty years? You 774 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:43.320 know? Yeah, somebody mentioned that on the previous podcast. I think it's 775 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:50.679 the curse the Typica new Yeah, yeah, so this is I encourage. 776 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:53.199 Yeah, maybe dropped that link in the show notes, you know that Dave 777 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:59.239 McGowan article. It's a longer one, but yeah, Dave McGowan, man, 778 01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.119 he was, Uh, I'm a big fan of his work. Yeah, 779 01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:07.800 and he has some of this stuff and some of the puzzle pieces that 780 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:08.880 I write about. You know, I didn't put him together, you know, 781 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.480 Dave McGowan put him together, you know. And so he's another one 782 01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:16.480 of these He's another one of these luminary figures. Uh, you know you 783 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:20.840 talk about, you know, the conspiracy movements in particular. I mean, 784 01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:22.639 he's really one of the one of the sharp minds, you know, him 785 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:27.880 and Bill Cooper were just so ahead of their time. And yeah, Bill 786 01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.760 Cooper another one, uh who was not a fan of Alex Jones, No, 787 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:36.039 not at all. And Dave mcgallan man, both of those guys were 788 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:39.880 taking away too soon. Interesting They took Bill on Guy Fawkes Day November fifth, 789 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:45.559 two thousand. Yeah, not even not even two months after nine to 790 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.000 eleven, and he called them out June twenty eight. That played that. 791 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:51.880 You know, we're coming up on the nine to eleven series, and that's 792 01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:55.519 always the the the the first thing I do to kick off nine to eleven 793 01:01:55.599 --> 01:02:00.599 weeks. That's how I found you guys. Actually was those old old Bill 794 01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:05.119 Cooper nine to eleven, right, God bless Bill Cooper, Amen, and 795 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:07.719 Dave McGowan man. You know, there's a lot of people who say he 796 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.920 was taken out, but to be completely fair, I never saw him do 797 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:15.480 an interview. He wasn't he wasn't puffing on a long dart mhmm. Yeah 798 01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:22.039 he had. I I'm personally of the opinion that he was assassinated as well. 799 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:30.159 The regime has weaponized poison, They've weaponized cancer, yea for a very 800 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:35.239 long time here, I mean the CIA. This is admitted and congressional testimony 801 01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.800 the Church Committee, uh yeah, which you know, just which again just 802 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.639 goes to show you that these committees are absolutely useless. You know, they're 803 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:45.159 they're limited hangout operations and no one's ever charged for anything or held accountable for 804 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.280 anything. Right, because the CIA admitted in congressional testimony that they had a 805 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.199 heart attack guns that would shoot people. Right. It was so the bullets 806 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.800 were made out of like little shards of ice and had like shrimping it, 807 01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.679 right, or some kind of poison and could countrive from shrimp or something really 808 01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:07.679 weird. Yeah, yeah, some kind of shelled fish there, and so 809 01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:12.960 they the dartwood, you know, dissipate, right, it wouldn't show up 810 01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.480 on an autopsy. I mean, they've admitted they've had this kind of stuff 811 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:21.320 for fifty years, so imagine what they have now. Exactly. Yeah. 812 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.360 His his book, Weird Scenes, was just tremendous, and that led me 813 01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:30.280 down into the Jim Morrison rabbit hole. And turns out his dad was in 814 01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:36.119 charge of the Gulf of Tonkin incident. And man, it's just you realize 815 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:42.280 and you start to realize it even you know that side of the world entertainment, 816 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.159 nothing is even organic over there. And then you see Michael Jackson was 817 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:49.519 taken out when he spoke out about a certain group of folks. It's just 818 01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.119 yeah, he really opened my eyes still out too, Dave McGowan. Just 819 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.639 if you see his book, you see an article, stop what you're doing 820 01:03:54.679 --> 01:04:00.199 and read it. Yeah, And I think that's one of the things a 821 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.760 lot of people, I guess just don't appreciate. You know, They've been 822 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.000 told these things are crazy, and they don't go and look into it. 823 01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.599 You know. Uh, They's like they take people at face value. You 824 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:15.159 know, there's an an admiral quality in that in a certain you know sense. 825 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:21.800 Right, they've kind of weaponized that against us, and so I I 826 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:29.000 mean there's just so explicit about how how to manipulate people. I mean, 827 01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:33.480 at like a scientific level. This knowledge has been not just you know, 828 01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:39.280 known about, but put into practice specifically for the purpose of mind control, 829 01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:44.400 for changing opinions. You know. The TV is an interesting one, man. 830 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:53.199 There is there's some patents by this interesting doctor called the Doctor Andrik is 831 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:57.559 loose and so he has a bunch of patents on mind control, and one 832 01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:01.880 of them is for the television and buy intervals of light on these screens. 833 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:09.280 There could be any screen. They can manipulate brain waves. I mean this 834 01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:13.639 is I know this sounds kind of woo woo, right, but there is 835 01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:19.039 a measurable science, you know, scientific change. You can measure this stuff. 836 01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:27.599 Right. When people are exposed to certain frequencies, they become depressed. 837 01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:31.599 When they're exposed to other frequencies, they become more animated and agitated. And 838 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:38.679 so a lot of these devices that we just put in our children's hands, 839 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:43.719 and we put in our bedrooms and we sleep with next to our heads, 840 01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:49.400 that we watch for hours and hours a day, we a lot of people 841 01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:53.599 are just not appreciating the threat that some of this stuff faces, you know. 842 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.840 And the man that invented the television, he didn't have one in his 843 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.079 home, He would not allow one in his home, and he never exposed 844 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:04.320 his children to the television. So I think that really says all that needs 845 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:09.119 to be said about the kind of the danger of this technology. Indeed, 846 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:11.960 and can I show again what was the name of that doctor who patented the 847 01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:17.639 light patterns that could Andrew kiss A N D R I c US loose L 848 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.559 or two ohs s. Yeah, all right, I have my homework for 849 01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:26.599 tonight. That's one I don't think I've come across. Yeah, yeah, 850 01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:30.960 I touched on some of this stuff in my Black Ops in Black Magic series. 851 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:35.000 Uh, you know the reality of mind control and some of this technology, 852 01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:40.079 because yeah, the media has been weaponized against us, and you know, 853 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:44.400 mass media, Hollywood, entertainment, the government, the military, they 854 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:49.199 recognize the really powerful tools that these things were, you know. And so 855 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:54.440 you look at the history too, of and you look at the history of 856 01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:03.440 some of these first big directors, and there's just accultism abounds. Occultism abounds, 857 01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:08.280 and so you're asking, hey, when did it all go bad? 858 01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:12.719 Uh, you know, it all went bad right around the garden. So 859 01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:18.760 yeah, if it's not of Christ, it is of something else. And 860 01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.400 as you know, at another time in my life, I would have thought 861 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:25.480 that's you know, oh that's so black and white, or that's you know, 862 01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.400 there's not enough nuance. I mean, this is just these are the 863 01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:30.480 facts of the matter. You know, you don't have to like that, 864 01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.800 and you know there's a certain fleshly part of me that certainly doesn't like that. 865 01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:40.239 But you know, part of this part of removing yourself from the world 866 01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:43.800 and removing yourself from this, uh, this b system. You know, 867 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:49.480 there's Babylonian system, which you know, Christ and as followers we have always 868 01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:54.000 been called to do. It's not like this, this threat was never not 869 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.800 there. Uh, this threat has always been there, and she's always been 870 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.679 trying to attack and subvert the Church. And it's you know, it's no 871 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:02.800 different today. They've just they've gotten a lot craftier with it. You know. 872 01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:08.480 Now they just call it a prosperity gospel or whatever. Yeah, And 873 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.079 going back to the very beginning of the podcast, you mentioned you know that 874 01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.280 the war we're in, and the war has been going on since the Garden 875 01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:21.079 of Eden, and and one of the current weapons that the controllers use. 876 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:26.520 I wanted to ask you about your thoughts on NASA. Do you think it 877 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:30.479 is simply a diversion tool or do you think this is a continuation of the 878 01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.600 Tower of Babbel. Do you think they're trying to do more nefarious things? 879 01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:39.920 For instance, we know about Operation Fishbowl and Operation Dominic, they were trying 880 01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:45.920 to break through the firmament. We know that, you know, God is 881 01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:48.600 all controlling, He's you know, we read the Book of Revelations. When 882 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:54.239 it's no man knows when the end is going to come. Do you think 883 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:56.840 NASA. So what I'm trying to get to here is do you think NASA 884 01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:00.880 is just a tool of deception or do you think it is a major tool 885 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.640 of the war of them trying to get through maybe just say as an example, 886 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:09.960 to get through the firmament and to overthrow God. It's both, right, 887 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:15.199 So it's absolutely a tool of deception, and I mean the amount of 888 01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:17.680 money they get, which you know they're not spending. Oh, we can 889 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:21.800 only get this nut from this company for seven thousand dollars, right right, 890 01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:27.680 there's this is a perfect tool to just kind of have your black box projects. 891 01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:31.359 And it's it's also a useful tool, right because a lot of this 892 01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:39.279 technology we've had for a very long time, Nikola Tesla. I mean your 893 01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:45.399 cell phone basically invented thanks to technology from Nicola Tesla. We have had wireless 894 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:50.840 transmission of electricity for over a century. Now, you know, direct energy 895 01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:55.039 weapons. I know it's like a big topic with this whole Hawaii situation. 896 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:59.680 I mean we've had a Tesla's death ray is almost one hundred years old now, 897 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.239 right, So again, we've had this technology for a very long time, 898 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.600 and so NASA is a very useful tool to kind of spread some of 899 01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:10.359 this technology out right, because they claimed, oh, we invented this for 900 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:15.399 the space race, and we invented that for the space race exactly. I 901 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.600 couldn't agree more. And it's interesting you mentioned Tesla because that's one of the 902 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:25.479 things I had. We got some synchronicity going on today. It was well 903 01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:30.000 noted that he said that today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they 904 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:38.079 wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure to which has no 905 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:44.000 relation to reality. It's you know, we talk about how the genuine people 906 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.119 in this world are really pillaged and held down if you're not part of the 907 01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:51.760 club. He died alone, bankrupt, you know, in a hotel room, 908 01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:58.840 and much of his work has either been a stolen or be hidden. 909 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:02.600 So my question to you is what are your thoughts on Tesla in that quote 910 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:09.439 and what technology do you think that is out there that is hidden? I 911 01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:12.319 mean, obviously you think there's free energy, but you can't charge for free 912 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:15.800 energy, and that is part of the matrix, right to keep us busy 913 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.239 working into paying bills so we can't sit down and have these type of conversations. 914 01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:27.279 Oh yeah, it is man, Tesla. Tesla is an interesting one. 915 01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:35.039 Tesla is an interesting one. I I'm of the belief personally that Tesla 916 01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:42.199 discovered the firmament with these stationary waves. So the Colorado experiment that he did, 917 01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:48.840 which he calls his greatest discovery, the station stationary wave phenomenon that could 918 01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:56.279 only have happened between two Gaussian surfaces, right, two surfaces, So there 919 01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:03.000 has to be a there has to be some kind of you know, structure 920 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:09.399 field something right that is reflecting this wave back, and I mean in perfect 921 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:15.000 synchronicity, you know, and so this thing is perfectly aligned. And this 922 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:20.439 was the experiment where he eventually started to you know, expand upon some of 923 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:30.199 this wireless transmission technology, which they are doing in New Zealand right now and 924 01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:34.640 I'm sure other places. I'm sure they they're very aware of all this technology, 925 01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:40.039 right, so they're absolutely utilizing it against us. And you know, 926 01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:43.039 I think that's another one of these things, another one of these really big 927 01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:47.840 lies that that stems from uh you know, heliocentrism, as this whole fossil 928 01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:51.520 fuel uh you know, wow, A couple of weeks ago, I did 929 01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:56.600 an article called the fossil fuel Farce. I mean it absolutely is, it 930 01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:02.520 absolutely is. You know, this is a renewable resource. And if you 931 01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:08.000 believe in the Bible, right, if you believe this is God's inspired word, 932 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:13.720 the idea that he would create a realm for us as that would run 933 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.560 out of stuff, right, that is imperfect. I mean humans have been 934 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:20.720 using patrollium for thousands of years, right, This is not a new and 935 01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:27.319 like as fuel, you know, this is not a new phenomenon. It 936 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:35.159 is absolutely a pernicious lie. Again. Two, and set this idea within 937 01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:41.359 us, right, that we are in this universe that is chaotically put together. 938 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.800 We are on this I mean we we are on a timeline, right, 939 01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:46.399 But we're on God's timeline. You know, we're not on the whole 940 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.399 The sun's gonna burn out or the oil is gonna run out or you know 941 01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:54.079 this, and that none of these men know the day or the hour. 942 01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.960 And I'm glad you mentioned that. By the way, you want to talk 943 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:06.319 about the deceit and the cover up. You mentioned the Colorado experiment because I've 944 01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:11.039 looked at it before. If you if you google the Colorado experiment, you 945 01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:15.399 get a story about a guy named Arthur Jones who was able to lift so 946 01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:20.560 much stuff because of I forget, maybe because of the altitude or whatever. 947 01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:28.039 It just happened to take place down the road from where Tesla actually did it. 948 01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.319 They call it the Tesla Experimental Station. But they put him in debt, 949 01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:36.880 and I think, if I remember correctly, they made him sell it, 950 01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:41.560 and then it was whoever bought it tore it down and back in nineteen 951 01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:45.600 oh four or so, like this huge wide on the patents on all this 952 01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:49.159 stuff. I'm sorry said that again. I spoke over you. Oh, 953 01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:53.199 I was saying. It was JP Morgan. He was the he was like 954 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:56.560 Tesla's benefactory owned the patents on all of this stuff, right, because I 955 01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:00.640 mean, they realized how valuable this man's intellect was, so they very quickly 956 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.920 kept him on that leash. It's it's crazy because again you can't you can't 957 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:08.000 build for that stuff. And yeah, they just tore it down, and 958 01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:13.199 what a wonder I'm looking at it now for something that is one hundred and 959 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:16.279 twenty years old, it's incredible and it kind of if you take a look 960 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.159 at it, it very much looks at what their five G towers look like 961 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:23.279 today or three G, four G whatever, it looks like a wireless tower. 962 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:29.760 Oh yeah, it's Uh. He is a very very fascinating character, 963 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:33.520 very fascinating character, not that you know, he's definitely got some weird ideas, 964 01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:42.800 but that is that is just some of the stuff that we take for 965 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.039 granted today. If Tesla was around, you know, they would ridicule him. 966 01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.520 You know, they would call him a fool. And yet all of 967 01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:54.039 the whole reason that they're able to like, you know, crap talk Tesla 968 01:15:54.119 --> 01:16:01.720 on their cell phone is because of Teslau. Going back to flat Earth, 969 01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:08.520 we like to ask our guests your your silver bullets to flat Earth? Or 970 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.000 some people I like, uh, I think it might have been Robert who 971 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.039 mentioned, what is your elevator? Like, you're in the elevator with somebody 972 01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:20.199 for thirty seconds, what do your go to? Little bullets when you're having 973 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:24.319 a conversation with one one and you get them, you want to get them 974 01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:30.359 curious enough to to look into flat Earth. Yeah, so there are several 975 01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:36.439 of these, you know, black Swan religious killer, uh, you know 976 01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:44.960 killer facts that heliocentrism cannot account for, uh, beyond just really ridiculous explanations 977 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:46.840 like you're not seeing what you're actually seeing type stuff, which is you know 978 01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:51.760 something that's uh what's its surface or light refraction? Right, that's why you 979 01:16:51.760 --> 01:17:00.319 can see too far as it's all an illusion. Uh. This is my 980 01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:04.760 big one lately, which that doctrine of the Flat Earth book was exceptional. 981 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:10.319 I highly recommend it. I tore through that man in a couple of days, 982 01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:14.319 and yeah, that Genesis two one he points that out and in that 983 01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:15.720 book when I saw that, I was like, oh man, this is 984 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:19.479 like the number one. Particularly if this is something you want to like take 985 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:23.359 to your pastor and talk about, which is a conversation ninety to have. 986 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:27.199 This is what I'm gonna bring to him, right is Genesis two one? 987 01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.520 Here? Like pastor, I know what all the science says is that you 988 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.800 know, we're constantly expanding and there's new stars being formed all the time. 989 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:38.199 But you know this is what this is what God's word says is that the 990 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.359 heavens and the earth this is all finished. So how can we reconcile these 991 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:45.640 two things? And you know the other big one too for me that personally, 992 01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:49.760 this is what really put me over the edge where I was like Okay, 993 01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:57.640 this is real. Is when I I heard one of these channels talk 994 01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:02.159 about the moonlight being cold, and I was like what. And you know, 995 01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.680 they bring up the verses in Genesis, right, that's say the moon 996 01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:11.520 creates her own light and so or it's own light. I think in Genesis 997 01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:15.359 it's her own light in a different verse. And so I was like what, 998 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:17.439 And so I want to look that up, right, and sure enough, 999 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:25.840 the moonlight is several degrees colder than the shadows, which you know, 1000 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:31.640 again, the scientific explanation for it is that the surface that you have above 1001 01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:36.640 you is trapping in the heat and it's you know, radiating back towards you. 1002 01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:42.760 But this is you can go, you can go to structures that are 1003 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.720 much much higher than you, right, that are not going to affect the 1004 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.760 ambient temperature in that way. I mean we're not talking about stuff ten, 1005 01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:55.439 I mean twenty feet higher than you. Right. There's no way that objects 1006 01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.039 that far away are interacting with your ambient heat waves. And so this effect 1007 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:06.640 is still measurable from very large distances. And so it's their explanation. I 1008 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:11.479 mean, the explanations for some of this stuff are just not they're just not 1009 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:15.479 that good. When you when you look into it, right, and when 1010 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:16.439 you're like, hey, what about this, they're like, oh, well, 1011 01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:19.880 you know, actually what you're seeing is not what you're seeing. Okay, 1012 01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:24.199 Now we're not talking about this isn't science, Okay, this is like 1013 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.800 your belief. You know, you believe that what's being seen here is not 1014 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:31.680 what you're saying. Well you can believe that, I guess. But yeah, 1015 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.560 and two things come to mind when you talk about that again. The 1016 01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:44.119 official scientific narrative is the moonlight is actually sunlight that shines on the moon and 1017 01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.840 bounces off. If that's the case, why don't I see sunlight hitting the 1018 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:56.319 moon? How is everything else that answer? How is everything else around it 1019 01:19:56.399 --> 01:20:02.119 completely dark? But this little ray of light streams from the sun and hits 1020 01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:05.600 it directly and bounces off. Go out tonight, guys, when it's dark. 1021 01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:09.760 Go get yourself a dusty old rock. I'm sure you can find one 1022 01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:14.119 somewhere, and when it's dark, shine a light on it. And if 1023 01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:17.039 any of you guys can show me a reflection, please take a picture of 1024 01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:21.600 it reflecting onto something else and send me that picture. All right, I 1025 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:26.640 can expect no pictures in minbox in the next month. It's not it's just 1026 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.000 not feasible. It's it's silly. And these are the things that we take 1027 01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:33.319 for granted because of all the things we've we've talked about over the last ninety 1028 01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:39.319 minutes. Is the doctrination, and that the programming. And that guy's wearing 1029 01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:43.159 a white lab coat and he's got, you know, the official title of 1030 01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:46.000 doctor in front of his name, so he must know what's best for me. 1031 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:50.279 So I better roll up my sleeve and get that jab right, yeah, 1032 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:54.479 howard, professor or whatever. Right, I mean even a heck, 1033 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:58.079 even past or a preacher sometimes you know, just as guilty of it. 1034 01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.760 And so yeah, this is uh, I mean the stars is like a 1035 01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:06.520 really big one too. You know, this is I when I was in 1036 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:11.399 Afghanistan, I mean there's no light pollution in Afghanistan, and uh, you 1037 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:16.760 know I was flying on forty thousand feet man, and you are you can 1038 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.840 just see space and you can see not space, you can see the stars 1039 01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:27.199 just in such a way. It's it's incredible. It's it's still one of 1040 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:30.479 those moments. You know, you'll never forget the amount of stars that are 1041 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.439 actually in the sky. It is without counting, Okay, it is without 1042 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:39.279 counting. You cannot. I can't put it into words the amount of stars 1043 01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:44.880 that there are in the sky. Okay, it's incredible. And so that's 1044 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:46.880 just one of these things when you see it in footage of space, right, 1045 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.359 and like, oh, it's just the aperture speed, dude, I 1046 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:53.720 don't care what aperture speed you got that camera at. There are so many 1047 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.840 stars in the sky you would be seeing them even if it's just some right 1048 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.800 and there's none, because that'd be one of the dead giveaways because we would 1049 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:06.159 be able to match up the star patterns from Earth to these space pictures and 1050 01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:10.840 we would be able to disprove it, right, right, So they can't 1051 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:14.520 allow something like that. You know. That's just a really a very easy 1052 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:19.680 debunk that could happen if they started putting stars, you know in some of 1053 01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:23.239 this stuff. I mean, when this originally happened, I don't think they 1054 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:29.119 have the technology to even do you know, some of that, you know, 1055 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:33.640 camera wise and stuff. But yeah, man, it is amazing. 1056 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:39.319 It was for Irwin, California, zero light pollution out there, the nights 1057 01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:44.479 were incredible, and then of course I remember waking up in or in Nazria 1058 01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:46.600 set up are caught outside the humby and laying down and looking up at the 1059 01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:51.159 stars. It's incredible when you're legitimately at a place where there's no light pollution 1060 01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:57.760 around you for for dozens of miles that the sights of the skies is just 1061 01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:00.920 incredible. And many people don't get to experience that. They live in the 1062 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.159 cities or even the suburbs where there it is light pollution, even a little 1063 01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:08.960 bit can really ruin the sky. But to be in the middle of nowhere 1064 01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:12.239 and look up the sky is an incredible experience that I'll never forget to. 1065 01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:16.199 Yeah, you know, it really brings the Scripture to life, right Psalm 1066 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:20.960 nine one where the heavens show his handywork, and I mean choking up a 1067 01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:25.600 little bit, but it's true, you know, they really do. Yeah. 1068 01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:30.399 You do you think because that was sounds nineteen one, right, the 1069 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:33.119 Lord show is his handywork? Yeah? Yeah, it wasn't that on Warner 1070 01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:36.479 von Bronze Headstone, Right, Yes it was. Do you think that was 1071 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:41.680 him? Was it mockery or was it him tipping his hat saying hey, 1072 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.079 guys, do you think that he was getting older? Who was dying? 1073 01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:47.960 And that was his way of telling the people. Yeah, I don't think 1074 01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:51.039 they actually have the ability to break through the firmament. I mean they're gonna 1075 01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:55.199 try, That's what they've been trying to do. The tower babble right. 1076 01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:58.000 God's not going to allow him to do it, of course, and so 1077 01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:00.880 yeah, they'll be scattered, they'll be destroying before they can. Ever, 1078 01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:06.239 they can never do that. And it's I do think that is they always 1079 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:10.640 have to tell us, right to disclose their little their little code. And 1080 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:15.119 I mean, you know, psychopaths have a moral code just as much as 1081 01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:19.600 we do. It would not make sense to you because it's insane, right, 1082 01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:27.479 but they have they have their rules around how they commit bloodshed and violence, 1083 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:31.359 right, And so I think it was Ted Bundy who he would try 1084 01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:35.720 the doors of his victims and if the door was locked, then he wouldn't 1085 01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:39.720 go in. But if the door was open, it was like, hey, 1086 01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:41.760 it's my invitation to go in. No, I mean, look, 1087 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:46.119 a vampire almost these people are. These people view their their rituals and their 1088 01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.039 you know, their mass killings in the same manner. So they give us 1089 01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:57.000 plenty of signs, plenty of signs which I've touched upon and very extensively in 1090 01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:01.079 my Coincidence own series, and it's all the signs are there, all the 1091 01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:04.520 clues are there. I mean, we're talking about stuff that's set up decades 1092 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:11.439 and decades in advance, right for specific ritual purposes. We're beyond the realm 1093 01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:16.319 of coincidence at that point. So we can either accept the fact that there 1094 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:23.800 is a very evil, very evil, ancient force that wishes to harm us 1095 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:30.399 and is able to orchestrate these kinds of things, or you can continue having 1096 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:38.840 your money devalued and being the military pawn of this very evil and ancient regime. 1097 01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.640 You got that right, And that leads me into my final question for 1098 01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:48.640 you is how do we win this war? And it is a war, 1099 01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:53.520 and there's some people who say there's nothing we can do. The end is 1100 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:56.479 near, But as we discussed earlier, the Bible says no man knows. 1101 01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:00.399 So what do you think people should be doing. Obviously we know they should 1102 01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:03.199 be preparing them their souls and they should be mentally tough, But as far 1103 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:08.920 as being a citizen of this country, you know, what can people do 1104 01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:16.439 to fight the evil? Yeah? This is a this is something that's really 1105 01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:24.079 been just pressing on me and really weighing on my heart lately, and I 1106 01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:28.439 mean I say lately right at the past several years, while all this chaos 1107 01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:35.039 has been unfolding across the world. And I I plan on getting into you 1108 01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:40.079 know, into this in depth and some later articles. But the same forces 1109 01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:45.880 that have taken over our governments have inserted these very aberrant doctrines into our church. 1110 01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:54.600 And you know, pre tribulation dispensationalism is one of them. So Cyrus 1111 01:26:54.600 --> 01:27:00.119 Scofield was funded by wealthy New York bankers, the Fabians Society's printing Press, 1112 01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:06.920 which was a Luciferian socialist secret society. Their printing press printed the Schofield Reference 1113 01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:12.279 Bible for free and they gave it out to all the seminaries in America. 1114 01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:19.119 And this doctrine has infected the church, has infected the church, this idea 1115 01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:23.079 that there's nothing we can do, that we just have to take it lying 1116 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:27.439 down, that actually all this terrible stuff that's unfolding is you know, part 1117 01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:30.560 of the plan. Now, some of this, some of this is part 1118 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:31.520 of the plan, right, Some of this is part of the plan. 1119 01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:35.000 Not to discount I don't believe, you know, I'm not a you know, 1120 01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:41.680 dominionist or a kingdom now type person. The only way we're gonna Number 1121 01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:44.600 one, we're not going to defeat this, right, the final enemy, 1122 01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:47.800 death is defeated by Jesus Christ, and then I just it and Hell are 1123 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:53.439 tossed into the lake of fire. Yeah, and so that's when it ends, 1124 01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:58.720 right, that's when it really ends. And until that point we are 1125 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:01.880 to fight, and we are a soldier on you know. And so this 1126 01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:10.279 truly pernicious, truly pernicious doctrine has has paralyzed the church, paralyzed the church 1127 01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.359 helpless in the face of all this evil and chaos going on, you know, 1128 01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:21.239 actually taken as a good sign, right, And so not only is 1129 01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:27.680 it I think very very damaging from that perspective, I mean just some of 1130 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:33.199 the very troubling implications that the doctrine begs, such as if if we are 1131 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:39.159 talking about a physical kingdom being built upon earth, doesn't that make the Pharisees 1132 01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:44.640 right when they brought Jesus to Pilot and saying he was trying to be a 1133 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:49.359 king of an earthly kingdom, and Christ explicitly states that my kingdom is not 1134 01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:53.760 of this world. I don't know how you can then go on to say 1135 01:28:53.800 --> 01:29:02.279 that the kingdom that we're talking about is a physical kingdom. It's yeah, 1136 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:04.319 I just dropped a little bit of a bomb here at the end. I'm 1137 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:08.319 sure I'm gonna get some of emails about it. I'm happy to talk about 1138 01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:13.439 it, you know, because it's it's just been very troubling, very troubling 1139 01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:15.560 reading some of this stuff and going through you know, this was part of 1140 01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:23.560 my my my journey of really pouring through the Word and understanding God's word. 1141 01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:29.960 And you know, some of the prophecies in the Bible are so specific in 1142 01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.520 their timing, it's really staggering, right, And I think Daniel in is 1143 01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:36.079 seventy weeks or one of them. You know, this lays out from the 1144 01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:40.600 decree, and the Bible lays out this timeline very explicitly. You know, 1145 01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.039 from the decree of Cyrus, We're gonna have seventy weeks until the temple is 1146 01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:46.079 rebuilt, and then the missile will be cut off in the midst of that 1147 01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:51.800 final week. I mean the timing of this to the year in perfection, 1148 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.439 right, And so for this reason, Daniel has been one of the most 1149 01:29:58.079 --> 01:30:02.039 one of the most maligned books in terms of the actual the date of its 1150 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:08.520 authorship right, But at the very at the very bare minimum, we have 1151 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:13.960 around four hundred BC as its timing, which is still hundreds of years before 1152 01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:16.000 all of these events would unfold. I mean, I'm telling you that the 1153 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:23.520 level specificity here to the year, to the year that when Jesus would start 1154 01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:28.800 his ministry, when he when he would be crucified, right, it is. 1155 01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:33.840 It's really incredible. It's really incredible, And there's a lot of prophecies 1156 01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.439 throughout the Old Testament. I mean, this is one of the best proofs 1157 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:44.039 honestly that I find it very hard when you look at the actual historical evidence 1158 01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:46.880 right in the real I mean even the you know, the physical documents themselves. 1159 01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:51.520 There's no way that a human could know this kind of thing. And 1160 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:58.199 there's no way that humans, through their own will over you know, hundreds 1161 01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:02.880 of years, could create and construct a book in this level of specificity and 1162 01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:09.239 perfection. And so I think that's another really big area where this, you 1163 01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:13.520 know, this ideology takes away from the glory and the beauty of God's word. 1164 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.399 We don't have to wait for some of these prophecies to be fulfilled in 1165 01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:20.680 some undeterminate future time. You know, he he came and He put an 1166 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:26.319 end to the sacrifices in the midst of that week through his sacrifice on the 1167 01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:28.760 cross for us, you know, and so I think, you know, 1168 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.880 just to end us off here. That's really that's really what it's all about. 1169 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:36.000 And that's why, you know, maybe this is a little Bible heavy, 1170 01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:40.119 This is a little uh, you know, religious heavy for some of 1171 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:45.039 the listeners who are not of the faith. But I would encourage you to 1172 01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:53.600 truly set some of your preconceived notions aside about who you think God is and 1173 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:57.840 what you think his word says, and to actually read it and see what 1174 01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:02.159 it says for yourself. Men. Couldn't I couldn't close any better than that. 1175 01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:06.399 And you've been, as always a tremendous guest, and I don't have 1176 01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:10.199 anything left on my list to ask you. Was there anything else that you 1177 01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:13.680 wanted to chat about before I give you the final word and certainly give you 1178 01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:17.720 the time to talk about your your your great subspect to share with the folks 1179 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:23.119 sub stock. Excuse me, oh, George, I just want to thank 1180 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:28.520 you for another great conversation here. I really do enjoy these, and it 1181 01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:36.640 is I just want to thank you and really really just let my appreciation be 1182 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:42.479 known, you know, because you you have started to create a or you 1183 01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:45.880 know, you started to help create a community here. Ultimately, this is 1184 01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:47.640 all the you know, the Lord's doing. Yeah, and in it's perfect 1185 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:54.600 timing. I do believe that, and so it is our job is just 1186 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:57.640 our job is not to know all this stuff, right. Our job is 1187 01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.680 to believe and then to do. And so I think there's been too much 1188 01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:05.840 of a focus upon the knowing, right, and there's been not nearly enough 1189 01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:15.800 of an emphasis upon the doing and the believing. So I the only way 1190 01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:18.560 we're going to fix some of these problems in our country is by allowing God 1191 01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:25.680 back into our lives and into our hearts. And so that is really the 1192 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:30.640 major thread running through all of my writing. They're on substacks, so yeah, 1193 01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:38.239 my my publication is Dispatches from Reality and the address there is df Reality 1194 01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:45.079 dot substack dot com. That's Delta Foxtrot Reality dot substack dot com. And 1195 01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:47.840 of course, as always, folks will have the links in the show description 1196 01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:53.439 as well as Scipio's email, which is Skipio or Aditos at proton dot me. 1197 01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:56.640 Don't worry about having it to write it down. You can simply copy 1198 01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:00.159 or click on the links in the show description and check out one of the 1199 01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:03.479 ones I found really interesting. One of his writings he did was the Frankenstein 1200 01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:09.039 formula he wrote last April. Very interesting, read so much to read, 1201 01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:13.399 and again Scipio was mad with me on the fact under he is a wealth 1202 01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:17.720 of knowledge and trust me. Subscribe support him. He's got some tremendous writings, 1203 01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:21.119 and reach out to him if you have any questions about anything we've talked 1204 01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:25.960 about over the last ninety minutes and against Scimpio, thank you so much for 1205 01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:29.479 joining us, brother, I really appreciate it. Thank you, George, 1206 01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:31.560 God bless and to all the listeners, thanks again. If you want to 1207 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:35.279 reach out, it is the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Check 1208 01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:41.960 out you can tell the flat earth Files at gmail dot com slowdown a little 1209 01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:46.159 bit, and of course the website, the flat earth files dot com. 1210 01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:50.560 Say hello in the chat room and check out the forum. A lot of 1211 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:56.000 people in there writing their thoughts and opining there. So thank you all for 1212 01:34:56.079 --> 01:35:00.640 your continued support, and again check out dispatches from real the substack and his 1213 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:05.479 email will be in the show description for Scipio. I am George. I 1214 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:09.720 hope everybody has a great week. God bless each and every one of you. 1215 01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:13.279 Keep your head on a swivel. And until the next time we meet 1216 01:35:13.319 --> 01:35:15.920 again, my friends, we will see U.