1 00:00:39,039 --> 00:01:30,519 Tonight's guest wishes to remain anonymous. With that in mind, I'm just going 2 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,079 to call him David. David, welcome to the show. Thank you a 3 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,239 lot, Vick. This is both an honor and up pleasure for me to 4 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,400 be stared on your show, because I think you are doing a very great 5 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:52,120 job in raising awareness at several levels for people to protect themselves, for people 6 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:57,920 to be more aware of what's out there. So keep it up. Well, 7 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,439 thanks for seeing that, but we're honored to have you on, so 8 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:05,680 thank you for your time. David, Please give us a brief bio on 9 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:12,919 yourself. Well about myself. I live in Portugal. It's not something that 10 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,199 I think I've one of the few people to be stared on the show to 11 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:27,719 weaving the southwestern part of Europe. Throughout my childhood and early teenage years, 12 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:34,639 I was a boy scout. I was never afraid of the wilderness. I 13 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:40,000 have for thirty nights off sweeping on the outdoors. Not that our outdoors are 14 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:49,400 as big and why there is in America. But I'm parture in these situations 15 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:53,919 at which when I realized what was actually going on, I thought that this 16 00:02:54,199 --> 00:03:05,680 was a relatively say country regarding this kind of occurrences after that. My encounters 17 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:13,840 happened when I was at college, so I was already an adult. I've 18 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:17,479 always been a fan of the paranormal. I'm one of those people that are 19 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:23,120 actually drawn to what they're fear. I grew up on the nineties because I 20 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:30,120 was born on eighty nine. One word situation that will come in andy. 21 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:37,240 While I'm the my encounter is that I've always been afraid of wolves ever since 22 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,759 i was a little kid. Because having been born on the way eighties, 23 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:49,080 I grew up with reading those Goosman series that was a it was meant to 24 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:55,240 be for children, but one specific book that booked me about was Worldwolf in 25 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:02,000 the Swamp, and even as it's child, I was always afraid of the 26 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:09,240 big bad Wolf. This might sound like no sense, but it's not as 27 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:15,800 well get on with speaking about it, because it was the certification that I 28 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:21,240 gave myself regarding what I saw, because I had no idea what it was. 29 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:30,160 As an adult, never read much problem with the par normal. I 30 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:39,519 mean, I've been I've been bit against pretty much everything from spirits to demons 31 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:46,439 to want things well, modesty apart, but I consider myself quite a knowledgeable 32 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:56,839 person regarding this this type of occurrences, especially given the fact that I've got 33 00:04:57,079 --> 00:05:02,399 a great spirit for sensitivity which will always come in and it to explain the 34 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:09,079 encounters. So this minds sound out of subject, but it's not, and 35 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:15,759 I will explain everything as we speak to our listeners out there. I just 36 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:21,920 want to tell them that sometimes, which was my mistake, people tend to 37 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:30,439 think that this side of situations are like isolated encounters that happen a lot more 38 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,839 in North America and stuff. So did I believe until I started following this 39 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:44,160 channel because I'm more way fond of seeking information because I think information is power. 40 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:49,600 So i must apologize to our listeners because I'm going to shutter that illusion. 41 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,399 No, it's not something exclusive to America. It's something that's out there 42 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:03,360 and it's something dangerous. That's all I wanted to share as off now ATWIST, 43 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:08,600 You're right, they're definitely out there in places a lot of people wouldn't 44 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:12,759 believe. And you just mentioned a moment ago that you've always been afraid of 45 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,519 wolves, But what did your encounter due to that fear of them, to 46 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,680 that fear to that didn't do nothing? Because I had no idea what I 47 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:28,079 was looking at. Although it looked like it had a wolf like appearance, 48 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:33,000 it walked like a creature. So my first guess is that I was not 49 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:39,959 walking at a wolf like creature I did. That's very specific area. I 50 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,639 mean, it wasn't a ring road that I have gotten there by accident, 51 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:54,720 and I already knew before, and that some of those roads outside of the 52 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,160 city itself, outside of urban areas and suburban areas, are known to be 53 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,120 haunted. Because Portugal is a very old country, there are many urban legends. 54 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:13,879 There's many like well whispered gossip among the older way people. So in 55 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:19,319 that specific situation, when I speak about everything that happened, my main concern 56 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:27,639 would never be something like warwolf, dog men or wost soul, So nothing 57 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,639 like that. And actually thought I was looking through something else, Well it 58 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,879 goes with that saying I'm so glad you thought you were looking at something else, 59 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:40,240 because that just might have put you over the top fearwise. If that 60 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:45,079 wouldn't have been the case. Do you many people in Portugal know about sasquatch 61 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,439 and dog men? David about sasquatch, I wouldn't be so sure about it, 62 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:57,120 and about dog men. No, here, people are more looking forward, 63 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,360 like I don't mean I don't actually know all to say this, but 64 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:09,240 says question is actually I think exclusive to America as far as I know people 65 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:16,000 here, which was my case. People are more worried about what's not of 66 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:22,720 this realm, of this physicality, which was my concern when I got lost 67 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:28,519 at night. I was more worried about what I could find that did not 68 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:35,759 belong injuring the physical realm. This country is very traditional and it's believes it's 69 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:43,960 very conservative country. People don't really walk up to something that's physical that's right 70 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,600 at the first step in order to warm them, or we try to. 71 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:54,120 So. No, never did anyone speak about it, not actually or who 72 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:58,200 have met one. I didn't think they were spoken about all that often over 73 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,840 there, but I thought i'd ask just to verify. If you've had a 74 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:07,159 dog Meant encounter would like to speak with me about it, whether I'm private 75 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,399 or on the show, please go to dog Meant Encounters dot com and submit 76 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,840 a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and we'd like to be a 77 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:18,000 guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting 78 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,159 dot com. All right, David, please tell us about your encounters. 79 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,279 Now, give us every last detail that comes to mind. I hope this 80 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:37,559 doesn't harm my credibility because back in the day this happened and twelve, I 81 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:43,200 was a college students and I'm not going to lie. I just looked it. 82 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,080 Our listeners don't judge me on our own way or that he s a 83 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:52,080 fits my credibility anyway. But I wasn't un good to tire him because he's 84 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:58,080 tappened after college part two. There's kind enough. ABOL was seeing a year 85 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:05,000 that too. Sometimes when new buildings are built, they're built on the outskirts 86 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:11,360 of the city, because well, college students are troublesomewhat, so the city 87 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:18,200 campuses sometimes tend to be built whenever it's possible, on the outskirts of the 88 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:24,200 city. At the time, I was studying law in order to become an 89 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:31,799 attorney. That's why I never built anyone. What had happened that night and 90 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:41,559 me and some some friends of mine, we decided to go dine out because 91 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:50,600 there was going to be a concert on the campuses was furthest away from the 92 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,960 city center, which was the science campuses, and since it's like a new 93 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,240 course, comparing like to my own law, because usually law is three. 94 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,519 Those are stuff that they've existed for quite a very long time. So they 95 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,879 were located on the city center itself, and we went to have the dinner 96 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:18,759 on a restaurant nearby to the campus, and after dinner an execant picture. 97 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:26,399 We weren't exactly drinking water, and seldom we went to the concert. I 98 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:31,879 enjoyed it. Afterwards. I remember that I went to get a few beers 99 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,399 for us, but I left my group went to grab a few beers. 100 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:46,120 But when I came back, the music had ended and everyone in the crowd 101 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,240 was moving back and forth. So I had there was no way I would 102 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:58,200 reach them because there was so many people moving that it was effortless to go 103 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:05,480 and find them. So I wasn't quite showing okay anyway, I had had 104 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,759 my field, so I just decided maybe I should take my way because the 105 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:16,360 night was over. It was already near one am or something, and there's 106 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:20,399 a publicy in here that you can't make noise after two am. So since 107 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:28,639 it was almost or was already one something am, I thought I had better 108 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:35,600 get home, and so I did. So I decided to take the shortest 109 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:41,639 exit, and I never knew it at the time because that was not my 110 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:46,879 campus. And there were three exits side. Two of them went to the 111 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,879 city itself and another one led to the outskirts of the city to that ring 112 00:12:54,039 --> 00:13:01,440 road that I mentioned, and that ring road goes all the way around and 113 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:05,720 out of the city. But since I was pretty drunk at the time and 114 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:09,440 I had no idea what I was doing, I was a young and silly 115 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,759 college student in a very friendly way town. I think nothing would ever happened 116 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:20,080 to me even if I touldrow wrong exit out of there. So I walked 117 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:26,120 for god knows along and when I come to my senses because I couldn't see 118 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:31,799 anything, everything was bored. But after all that walking at night on a 119 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,879 cood night we were speaking about it was the start of the second semester, 120 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:43,879 so it was white March or April control a call. After getting some nights 121 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:48,200 for a share on my face, I started to walk on my surroundings, 122 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:56,159 and I noticed that I had gotten myself in quite a predictment because I was 123 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:03,039 out at night on an open field on the road that seemed to go straight 124 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:07,879 on. In the voice complete you unknown to me to my right was the 125 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:18,360 ditch, and after the ditch it was open field. To my life there 126 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:26,840 was a thing through a line that was not continuous, so you could see 127 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:35,919 that there was open field beyond it. So basically open field on both sides, 128 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,799 except that to my left there was a through one that was intermittent. 129 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,120 And since I was already conscious, althose two what it would be tipsy, 130 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:52,000 but I had in my complete senses, I decided I have two options. 131 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,200 I would either stay there, which was completely not an option, or I 132 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,480 would continue going down the road to see where it took me, because all 133 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:07,799 those roads eventually connected it was moveable, or I would find a house or 134 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:15,120 something. So I just decide to go on. And after I go on 135 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:22,120 for I don't know how along, because my phone battery was dead, and 136 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:28,840 we were talking about the time that there were no Google Maps, no everything. 137 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,080 At Whisty Year there weren't, although this is the first World country. 138 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:43,879 After walking for god knows how much, I noticed a movement from the corner 139 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,879 of my lifetie and that kind of startled me because I already knew that those 140 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,600 roads, some of them were haunted. So I walk and I see the 141 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:06,879 weirdest creature i'd ever seen, walking on all fours and just wallowing as it 142 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:12,159 moved because it was so so massive. I had never seen anything like that. 143 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,440 What I first noticed were the legs. The legs were a big compared 144 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:25,879 to its tirstle. They were really big, and it's it's had inverted knees 145 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:33,159 like a dog would have. But the angle in which there were place was 146 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:40,799 really awkward, because it seemed like it SIPs worth standing higher than it said 147 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,039 because of the angle it made and the angle on its knees in the inverted 148 00:16:48,120 --> 00:17:00,600 knees that I mentioned, it was also really steep, and it's arms were 149 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:07,480 also really wrong but short compared to the size of the toursto at that distance 150 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,920 must have been like, I don't know, fifty meters or something. Sorry, 151 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:21,079 I don't can't measure fit four yards. I could see it queerly because 152 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,559 there were lamps on that road. They had a few, Like every one 153 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,079 there was another lamp. But it was a night of full moonshine, so 154 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,640 even in between the lamps, I could see everything around me, and it 155 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:45,480 made me feel a little bit safer, and I was in full use of 156 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:52,000 my senses. But I couldn't actually picture what I was looking at. I 157 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,440 just want more detail about it. Stores was really big compared to the size 158 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:03,359 No Stores was always compared to the size of its arms and legs because it 159 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,799 should be bigger. And it had a nump and it had a main on 160 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:15,799 top of it. It was long, and it was just like whenever it 161 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,319 gave a step, it was just like wobbling around like it owned the place. 162 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:25,000 I was so curious because since I know that the roles are haunted, 163 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:27,839 I think it must have been just a spirit trying to mess up with me. 164 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,680 And the words you can do in a situation, why that is to 165 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:38,039 feel fear. You've got to steal your art and keep your ground. But 166 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,720 I was really curious, so I felt none of that. I just stood 167 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,799 there looking at it. And I stood there looking at it for several minutes 168 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,599 to the point that I got fed up. It never looked at me, 169 00:18:53,839 --> 00:19:03,440 what ignored me, just was on his way or it's way, minding its 170 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,920 own business. And when I finally got fed up, and I thought, 171 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,559 well, I'm still in a predictament because I know I don't know where I 172 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,400 am, so I got to keep moving. So I just kept moving, 173 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:26,920 and then after what was like two or three seconds, I noticed that something 174 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,880 is amiss, because, like I mentioned, I'm a person that's pretty much 175 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:37,839 acquinted to the super normal, and I noticed that something is amiss, which 176 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:44,640 is, I have a sensitivity that warns me when I am in the presence 177 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:51,359 of something truly troueable. Even back at the time, I was twenty two 178 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:56,079 or something, twenty one or twenty two, and I felt that I had 179 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,440 no will feeling about it. I never felt in danger. I a never 180 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:07,039 felt that it presented a threat when situations before, when I had met eval 181 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:14,119 spirits, I had felt threatened. So when I looked back, and this 182 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,240 was a rather short interval of time, like I mentioned, three or five 183 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:26,880 seconds, it had gone from being a civil atte that was completely discernible at 184 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:33,240 why some tons of yards or meters or wherever I want, I call it 185 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,880 to be a spot, a small spot on the distance on the open field. 186 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:44,480 And this was a mistake because it sort of gave me a reassurance. 187 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,440 Okay, this must surely have been an able spirit, because no waving creature 188 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:52,960 could move these thoughts in such a short amount of time. But then I 189 00:20:53,119 --> 00:21:00,720 thought, if this was actually a spirit, my sensitivity, my radar towards 190 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:07,359 evil stuff should have kicked off, and they never did. Was I actually 191 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:15,119 working at a biological creature, although paranormal creature that was at least for the 192 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:22,480 most part biological, And this roy always struck me lucky me. Eventually a 193 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:29,000 driver came back and there was actually a young guy who who had been at 194 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,599 the party as well, and they told me. They asked me what I 195 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:41,759 was doing out there on the wild because I was nowhere near or anything, 196 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:45,039 and I apologized when well, just Scott was. When I left the party, 197 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:48,359 I took the wrong exit, so I ended up in Heroon and I 198 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:55,279 was trying to find someone or some mouse in order to to end a phone, 199 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,599 to to grab a texture or something. And it was okay, I'm 200 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:07,799 gonna give your right on. And by these things I already had given a 201 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,359 good thought about it. I knew I was in troubled, so getting on 202 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:17,759 a car with a stranger was less of a problem than being out in the 203 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:25,240 open at night alone with the creature that I couldn't exactly tell what it was. 204 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,480 I still think of it to this day. And that's why your channel 205 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:33,759 was so important for me, because it gave me a lot of answers. 206 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:44,039 Fast forward them two years. I already left the town, but I was 207 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:51,519 getting a girl that still lived in there, funny enough, in one of 208 00:22:51,720 --> 00:23:00,160 those scattered villages that exist around up a big city. After that. I 209 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:06,200 think it was an unconscious feeling because I always felt an easy when I was 210 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:12,160 at her boys. It was in a very exalted area, and the village 211 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,079 itself, if it had why call photos analysis, it would be a lot. 212 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,279 Never accounted them, but I think they if they amount to that much 213 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:33,519 to those many whenever I will stayed there, I was since I wasn't sure 214 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:38,799 about what I had seen. This was sort of an unconscious feeling that something 215 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:44,039 might be out there watching me. Because a Rouse was right at the end 216 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:51,240 of the village. After Arouse, it would there was only when else I 217 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:56,119 had never been there, and we started going there after I had moved out 218 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,839 of that city. But the fun fact is there too. Rose was on 219 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,960 a I viewpoint, so I could see that the city itself that I had 220 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:15,519 lived in so many years was surrounded by mountains and forests. But a person 221 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:19,680 that is with there for so long there has no idea of it, because 222 00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:25,440 since you are already in a night point, which is on a wail, 223 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,079 you can picture what's around you, and yet there's mountains and forests around it, 224 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:36,880 but like overround it. I try to forget what had happened to me, 225 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,920 put it beyond my back, because I had a logical explanations with I 226 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:48,319 just told myself that my necessitivity was impaired because of what happened that night. 227 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,599 Although when it happened, I was almost folways sober. But that was the 228 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,440 excuse that I gave myself. I always felt uneasy because all of our own 229 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:07,279 our rows, their pine trees. Jose was small. She didn't live with 230 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,480 her parents, along with her with her mother, and with her your grandfather, 231 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:21,680 and with her grandmother. This also relevant or future reference in the story. 232 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:29,000 Her father wasn't in theirs, he was working abroad. Well, after 233 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,839 all that easiness and everything, I mostly out of respect, I accepted not 234 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,279 sweeping in the house because they had an attic that was mostly are living room. 235 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:48,799 Since the family was very conservative, and although I was dating her had 236 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:56,000 nowhere to stay, I accepted sweeping in the attic. The attic itself was 237 00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:02,680 not accessible from the house. To combat mental stairway in order to get there. 238 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:11,839 It had an emotion sensor at the top which would turn off a small 239 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:17,319 name white. The thing is that the stairway was too long in order for 240 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,240 a person to reach the top in time. I remember whenever I was out, 241 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:30,319 I would commander those stairs running because the feeling often isn't was way too 242 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,160 strong. And I can't exactly answer a why if I was asked, because 243 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,319 that's why say it wasn't unconscious, because I couldn't explain what had happened. 244 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,160 I just didn't feel okay there, as if there was some sort of ominous 245 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:56,160 presence around, not like something looking at me, but something ominous around. 246 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:02,880 And that village. Not gonna at the name of the village, but I'm 247 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,559 gonna say it has a very fitful past because back in the day that Portugal 248 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:17,519 was still a monarchy and that the Moors were still in Portugal during the Conquista, 249 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:26,559 which is what the istory speaks was a period for a conquest of the 250 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:33,720 Iberian peninsula. Historically, the Moors were cruscified on that village because it was 251 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,400 on top of a year it was I avoted from the city, so I 252 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:45,880 always went the failing that I had to the bad energy of that voice either 253 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,599 way, since I wasn't sweeping in stidy house properly. Every now and then 254 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:59,119 she would come up, stay with me for some time in the attic, 255 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:07,519 and then she would wave after an hour or so. So there's this night 256 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:17,440 that she had been there and she has left, and I'm standing yeah, 257 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,680 so to say, I swept on a motors on before, but I felt 258 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:26,039 so uneasy that, since it was on what was supposed to be a living 259 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,160 room, I poised the mattress behind a couch in order for me not to 260 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:37,160 have an angle to walk at the twin Trader, which was made of metal 261 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:42,920 and that type of glass that it sporries so you can see outside and wherever 262 00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:48,319 is outside can see inside as well, only like shadows of stuff moving, 263 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:55,759 et cetera. And there was one particular night that she she had been gone 264 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:03,640 for like what was an hour or so, and I was sweeping, like 265 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:08,000 I said, beyond the couch on the mattress, and I heard the motion 266 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:14,839 since her going off, because it made a sort of quick and the white 267 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:22,160 came in the giatic. But I actually didn't care about it because no one 268 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,119 would come, and I thought it must be her. Her grandfather was ill. 269 00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:33,400 Her mother worked next day like royally early. Her grandmother was probably Sunday 270 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,359 sweep as well. I thought it was her, and I hear the door 271 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:48,160 hand all being turned what I are already looked it, so I couldn't see 272 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,319 what was on the other side of the door because I didn't even put my 273 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,680 eye up in order to check. I was already sweepy. She had been 274 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:04,119 gone for like an hour or something, so I didn't actually cared. But 275 00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:15,079 before this happened, I could hear the the metal stairway clanking, and then 276 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:22,440 they are the metal cranking again yet again. When someone comes up, the 277 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:27,079 door goes on. When someone goes down, the white goes on again, 278 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,200 although for a short period of time. But that got me thinking what she 279 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:40,000 what if she forgot anything appeared because I haven't moved from the same ploys ever 280 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:45,359 since she weft So I texted her like, why did you come all the 281 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,160 way appear like without texting me or anything. You know that I don't feel 282 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,160 comfortable here alone. You should have text me have you forgotten anything in here? 283 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:04,279 And there was no response back, although it had been like ten or 284 00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:11,279 fifteen minutes after that occurrence, and when hour something, when we're in and 285 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:18,240 off. After she had left, I'll just dropped dish. Nextday morning, 286 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:27,279 I go at breakfast in Saudia's pership and they asked her I never applied my 287 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:36,640 message, And before coming up acquiling down, i've I've checked if you forgot 288 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:41,359 something up there, and you didn't, and she tells me I was already 289 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:48,359 asleep. I never went up there. And when she tells me this, 290 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:56,960 my heart sank because I knew whatever I had been there. It was no 291 00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:05,920 neighbors because no neighbors first would go there. No Burger, because no Burger 292 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:09,000 will ever do that. We go to an attic. If anything would strike, 293 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:15,039 go to the house. And given that I had a phenomenon that was 294 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,279 an explainable I thought they were avoided. I'm not sure if it was the 295 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:28,039 same creature or not, but I bet it was because it ignored me twice. 296 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,559 An apex predators are very proud of themselves, so I went out, 297 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:43,319 specially given the area. We were on the same area. Okay, it 298 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:47,799 has passes to wire, it has pointy of game to one et c. 299 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:54,759 But a creature that big needs tweet a lot, So I severely doubt that 300 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,759 it was another one. It must have been the same. It must have 301 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:05,960 trucked my sense all the way there, because it was not that far in 302 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:12,279 terms of the distance they can cover from the boys from that ring roads. 303 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:19,960 Because the person that gave me a rather exploited me where I was. I 304 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,480 was going on the complete opposite direction of the city, and there house was 305 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:30,079 also on the complete opposite direction from the city, so it was all on 306 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:37,640 the same direction. So this forrked me about. I always thought it was 307 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:44,400 something not physical out of this world, but after hearing to some of your 308 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:51,880 podcasts and everything, it kind of helped me put the business together that it 309 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,160 was not the spirit. That was not an evil spirit taking that form. 310 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,640 It was not anything it comported with. It's on the pattern that whenever you 311 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:07,000 meet one, more encounters are going to happen after that, so it must 312 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:13,119 have been the same creature. I just think I was lucky enough not to 313 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:19,559 have actually scene its face, scene its eyes, interact with that directly, 314 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,199 because I don't know what would have happened to me if I had opened that 315 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:29,000 door thinking it was our or tried to interact it when I was out in 316 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:34,000 the open at night. It could have snatched me, killed me, etc. 317 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,559 One thing that always scared me is that it's a common pattern that one 318 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,159 a person is alone impaired, there are more prone to be attacked. I 319 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:49,440 fulfilled these two requisites and you're still I am. So I think I was 320 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:55,599 lucky, luckier than some of your guests. So, and this was something 321 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:04,360 that I only realized like some three four months ago, when I started listening 322 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,800 to your channel. That's why I'm telling you that you're doing a very important 323 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:15,199 work. And another thing that I realize is I was lucky because on that 324 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,079 very first encounter, well I mean both of them, I wasn't actually afraid 325 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:29,119 because I never actually I realized the den for I was if you come to 326 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:36,639 think that dogs can feel, can sense a person's fear, surely this type 327 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:43,159 of creature can. And these are intelligence and the actually seem to feed off 328 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,000 a person's fear. It seems that they like knowing that the victim is trapped, 329 00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:52,280 that they have no way out. The only thing that saved me on 330 00:35:52,559 --> 00:36:00,960 both situations, and I'm in saving as the term actually means it because I 331 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:06,480 never gave it a chance of coming the right way to me. I never 332 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:13,119 try to interact with it. I never went off as far as to police 333 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:19,719 myself in it on a situation of greater danger. Although these things might be 334 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:31,039 biological, they also ever predatory feeling regarding them predatory slash paranormal. I think 335 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:35,639 they just want to talk people and make they feel trapped and everything, like 336 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:43,039 a regular human psychopath would like, because that's been pinpointed on many documentaries that 337 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:50,840 psychopaths seem to like the feeling that their victim is afraid that their victim is 338 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:57,559 trapped it they will come back later. It's a sort of dominance that they 339 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,400 like to feel. And this creature is dominant because it's an apex predator. 340 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:14,719 So I was luckier than reasonable about situations, and I could give a few 341 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:21,599 advices to listener, which is, if you ever are unlucky enough to meet 342 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:25,760 one, please try to stay calm because if these creatures want to get you, 343 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:34,000 those certain of the will, so just don't be the jest. Don't 344 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:38,039 play their game, or maybe you should because if you don't play it again, 345 00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:42,119 they might downright kill you. I don't know what to say. Maybe 346 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,719 this wasn't the best advice ever. Sorry, it's a situation that its inc 347 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,599 works. Swim there is no like reasonable response or rational response to it. 348 00:37:52,760 --> 00:38:00,320 It's the creature bigger than a horse can kill it on the rights, and 349 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:06,519 they're known to kill warses. And that's about it now that I'm speaking about 350 00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:12,039 it, getting over to bits poked up. That's how it normally is for 351 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,519 our witnesses, so that doesn't make any difference from most of them. How 352 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,599 far do you think you were from campus where you had that first experience, 353 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,360 David, I don't know, but the guy to have to gave me a 354 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,199 right when I asked them which way it would take, like going back or 355 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,639 take me to the city through the Ring road, told me that it was 356 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,960 exactly what he wanted to do, because I was closer to an exit that 357 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,679 led me to the city rather than to campus. So I must have walked 358 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:51,719 for two or three hours by myself out in the open. I remember that 359 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,360 I when I got home, it was around five am, and I after 360 00:38:55,559 --> 00:39:01,920 at once something because as I knew, like I mentioned that the music would 361 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,559 in that tool and that I was not okay, So it must have been 362 00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:12,599 like a three hour walk. That's a pretty good distance. He mentioned precisely 363 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,159 that I was farther away from dun than close to it. It sure sounds 364 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:21,599 like you must have been. If you'd like to be able to listen to 365 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,880 the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, that's an option. 366 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,960 To find out how, please go to dog Mean Encounters dot com forward 367 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:37,239 slash podcast. For anyone listening who thinks you just imagine seeing that first dog 368 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,320 men because you're drunk, what would you say to them about that? The 369 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,800 thing is, no one actually imagines a creature like that. It's not something 370 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,760 that's a normal human being can actually picture because it had features, It's had 371 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,800 a way of moving that I had never seen on any and anything. That's 372 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:04,719 how I even breathing. And I mean, we don't have wolves, we 373 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,719 don't have bears, we don't have anything. And the size of its in 374 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,960 the wax, and the way that it was moving, not eaving any milk 375 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,239 can move like that. So if you see something which don't right off imagination, 376 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,199 like if you see a unicorn, Okay, you might have seen a 377 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,000 unicorn, but this, this is not a being that your conscious mind can 378 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,880 can picture. Something comport way out of the ordinary. I was away a 379 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,760 bit drunk, yeah, I admit it, and I hope that doesn't take 380 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:45,960 any credibility regarding what I saw. But I was already in full possession of 381 00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:51,199 my senses because after walking for such a long time with the night's fresh air, 382 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:58,360 and I added a really good dinner so that drunkness wouldn't last for long. 383 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,480 So I will I was tipsy, but I was full of what was 384 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,960 surrounding me. You make some good points. You're not gonna imagine seeing something 385 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:13,880 like that just because you're drunk. One of the options you considered was asking 386 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,679 for help if you found a house. Considering the fact that it was around 387 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,480 one am at the time, how most people there in Portugal respond to having 388 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:27,039 someone knock on the front door at one am? Well, Vic, I 389 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,679 consider asking for up since my phoneless dead. I think that's a really important 390 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,320 question, because either that thing moved away or is still in there. It 391 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,199 actually depends. But regarding that situation that you told me of imagining things, 392 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,280 I've got to say something which is really important. I'm a person that's against 393 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,519 strokes, so I never took anything besides beer and wine. So I'm not 394 00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:57,960 the kind of a person that engaged just in thostup of effectivities. It's just 395 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,960 the way I am. I just drugs. I avoid them. I avoid 396 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:10,320 people you use them. So it was only straightway like beer during the party 397 00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:15,079 and one at dinner, and one and dinner at party, So it makes 398 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:19,480 up like some stuff. The way they would react, well, it depends 399 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,480 on how we approached them. People you're in Portugal are really approachable. So 400 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,280 if they see a young adult begging for help, well, of course everyone 401 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:37,519 if someone rings it another's or bell at like one it was not one am, 402 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,880 it was one am when I left. It must have been like two 403 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,320 or three when I saw it, and God knew how long it would take 404 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,639 me for me to reach outse Well, if they if they saw someone desperate, 405 00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:59,280 they would surely help, because I mean, that's someone's son after all, 406 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:07,880 and special students. I was vallable to speech. Like I told you, 407 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,880 I was completely aware of my of my sences, of everything. I 408 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:19,239 seemed a little bit spooky. But even when the the guy that gave me 409 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:25,239 a ride, he never felt anything weird about me, just felt that I 410 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:31,519 was a little bit disturbed. So in case of distress, I think a 411 00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:37,719 family would receive well, my poyet for help. It sounds like you have 412 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,320 some good people there in your country, because over here in the United States, 413 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,119 if you go ring someone's doorbell at two or three am, in most 414 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:50,199 cases, it's not going to go all that Well, you told us about 415 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,039 the strange posture it had, David, did it move in an awkward way 416 00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:00,519 or was it well coordinated as it moved? It was well coordinated, Like 417 00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:07,920 I've just got to see some documentaries like the Yon walks on the savanna, 418 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:15,880 like walking slowly, like just wobbling around without that muscle mass. You walked 419 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:22,679 the wake away and walking except for its wolf for it's see in the legs, 420 00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:27,599 but because they are completely different from a lion given the angle that it's 421 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,880 inverted. News work bois then, but it seemed that he on the walk 422 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,480 countrysides like I'm not king off the savanna, but I'm king off the converse 423 00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:49,239 and around there, so railway confident walking and it's like railway coordinated walking. 424 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,000 So if it's Torso looked small compared to its arms and legs, did it 425 00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:59,960 look sick to you? Sorryfic, I think it's the other way around. 426 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,880 It. Strso looked a lot bigger because it had a lamp and it at 427 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,920 the man on top of it. It seemed the legs and arms or wherever 428 00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:13,840 we're smaller compared to the torson And I'm sorry if I explained it wrong. 429 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:23,239 It seemed like it's strso comprised, like I'm not gonna say two thirds, 430 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:30,840 but it's torso was a lot bigger because the legs were a thing. But 431 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:38,400 you could see that it was muscle, really big legs big torso and arms 432 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:46,239 really big as well. But it seemed to be awake. It was a 433 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:57,840 weird creature. How do I explain this? The lamp was what made it 434 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,679 huge, because without the lamp it would be river proportional everything one twitcher. 435 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,320 So yeah, the torso was massive and the add was long. I couldn't 436 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:16,960 see its features from that distance, but the dorso is big compared to the 437 00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:28,440 other parts. It seemed like it seemed likes and its arms or whatever weren't 438 00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,440 fitting in there. You know, that must have been a site to see. 439 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,000 How tall would you say it was comparing its side to the trees that 440 00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:45,039 it stood near to. If that thing gets too on two leggs, I 441 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:52,840 think I wouldn't chich its waste. I'm not a tall guy. I'm five 442 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,920 four, so yeah, already brows this in order to make an accurate compare 443 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,920 reason between my size and it's. Yeah, most like I wouldn't even reach 444 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,480 each waist. Well, that is pretty big. Then were we able to 445 00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:14,360 see enough detail to tell how it was holding its ears? In other words, 446 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,960 if I was holding its ears up or laying them back. No, 447 00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:21,880 it was so far away. I could see the ship off, it said, 448 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:28,840 but I couldn't see ears or nothing. It was like thirty meters away 449 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,639 from me. No, I couldn't see years. No, that is pretty 450 00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:37,440 far away at nighttime. How do you describe the shape of its head though, 451 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,440 Well, like I told you, I was far away. But the 452 00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:47,599 best way I can describe it is have you ever seen on like a skull 453 00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:53,199 of dog? Which is why Carrilla long It didn't like that, because since 454 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:59,559 I couldn't see any features and it was completely black, I could see just 455 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,239 the features that I described, But it was like and I won't get to 456 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:14,559 that like the ones you see on science books or regarding the skull of canine 457 00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:21,199 mammals symbol like that. Besides that, I could see no feature like no 458 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,840 longer snout know anything at a distance. Everything's in the same well, like 459 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,760 I said, there must have been a sight to see it never looked at 460 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,880 you, but you think somehow, some way it still knew that you were 461 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:39,719 there. I think it did. I was the only wandering somewhere around. 462 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:47,320 So sometimes I get to feel and that is simply decided to ignore me that 463 00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:53,159 night, like it was not convenient to interact with me, could have snatched 464 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,119 me, killed me, et cetera. But it is a really small country. 465 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,039 It's not like every day or every year every decade that college didn't goes 466 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:13,880 missing after a night out party, so where it's situations don't tend to happen 467 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:20,039 in years. So these creatures, I think they're really conscious about themselves under 468 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:25,760 pois in the world. So it knew that it must better off wave me 469 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:34,320 alone in that specific situation. I mean, if it's a kilome or something. 470 00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:42,880 They are intelligent. It knew it couldn't go back to that area because 471 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:49,199 that area would be under surveillance if a body was found there, or even 472 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:55,519 if it was found several kilometers away, the Corey monopolis would keep an eye 473 00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:00,519 on the wall area until they found something or someone to put the blame on. 474 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:10,400 So don't take these creatures as stupids and not aware of what the stakes 475 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,280 are, because they definitely are intelligent and in other consequences for their acts, 476 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:22,599 they only act. They don't tact out avolition the only act when I know 477 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:28,800 they have a queer opportunity to get in something, and that wouldn't be on 478 00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:36,639 such a small areas these countries or dinner biasque countries. Pain everything is the 479 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:42,199 same. There woulden areas, yes, but there's not as many posses to 480 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,280 whites. Well, it sounds to me like there are enough places for these 481 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,800 guys to hide. They are everywhere, after all. Two years later, 482 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,920 when you have that second experience when you heard the metal stairway clanking, did 483 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,440 it sound to you like padded feet coming up? Or did it sound like 484 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:04,079 claws clicking on the metals steps? I couldn't hear if their work wasn't not 485 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:10,679 but I was depot. I still wouldn't want to sweep. But the noise 486 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,400 from the service was so old that it could have been wearing boots that I 487 00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:22,840 wouldn't hear the boots. I would just hear the clanking. Did you ever 488 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:31,159 hear whatever it was outside make any vocalizations? Yes, I adhered something while 489 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:42,079 screatious and the middle of the night, but really acute and felt weird, 490 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,960 felt a natural. And when I come pointed to the girl that I was 491 00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:51,760 dating back then, she told me, oh, those were always the foxes. 492 00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:57,719 And I thought, no, no way those were foxes, because if 493 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,440 those were foxes, you're dogs. She had two small dogs that never went 494 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,280 inside the house. They were always outside, would be barking, and the 495 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:15,159 wall neighborhoods dogs would be would be barking. As few as they are, 496 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:21,079 you could hear them. It's like the same situation. I don't know if 497 00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:25,880 a listeners have this experience. For example, when dogs here like cat fights 498 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:31,119 in the middle of the night when it's mating season, all the dogs are 499 00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:37,360 going to bark. It's the stem with foxes when they are arm mating season 500 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,920 and make noises or they get into pirates between themselves, all the dogs around 501 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,840 bark. It was not a situation was like that silence. Yeah, that 502 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,159 was a good tribe by her to explain it away, But you're right, 503 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:57,280 it definitely wasn't a fox. What's about time for us to get out of 504 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,599 here. But before we do, do you have any closing comments you'd like 505 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:07,800 to share? Not. Actually, I just want people storia wise and be 506 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:14,800 careful unless you are in the middle of a big city and that we've got 507 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,239 to be careful with humans. But if you are close to the edge of 508 00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:25,239 the city or town on suburban area, always walk your windows, walk your 509 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:35,960 door at night, especially if you are not living enough flat plays. Take 510 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:43,719 care of yourself because there are things alter that are not exploitable as often. 511 00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:50,159 So I would just like to tell our listeners that please don't think that it's 512 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,920 like a ghost story or anything, because these are no ghost stories. This 513 00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:59,880 isn't no funny situation. People have been killed, people have gone ness, 514 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,760 So don't take this lightweight. They're stiff thought there, just she said, 515 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,480 I would to said, yeah, it is a pretty disconcerting thought, the 516 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:13,679 fact that if dogmen are out there, than what else might be. So 517 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,800 that's a good point. Well, David, I can't thank you enough for 518 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,480 coming on. I'm sharing the details of those experiences with us. I really 519 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:25,360 appreciate it. No, thank you a walt. Like I said, right, 520 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,960 it's a start for me. It's supposed to an honor and the pleasure. 521 00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:32,920 Never really appreciate what you're doing in here. So well, you know 522 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,480 you're welcome. It's been an honor and a pleasure to have you on. 523 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,360 Thanks again so much for your time, and have a great night.