Tonight's guest wishes to remain anonymous. With that in mind, I'm just going
to call him David. David, welcome to the show. Thank you a
lot, Vick. This is both an honor and up pleasure for me to
be stared on your show, because I think you are doing a very great
job in raising awareness at several levels for people to protect themselves, for people
to be more aware of what's out there. So keep it up. Well,
thanks for seeing that, but we're honored to have you on, so
thank you for your time. David, Please give us a brief bio on
yourself. Well about myself. I live in Portugal. It's not something that
I think I've one of the few people to be stared on the show to
weaving the southwestern part of Europe. Throughout my childhood and early teenage years,
I was a boy scout. I was never afraid of the wilderness. I
have for thirty nights off sweeping on the outdoors. Not that our outdoors are
as big and why there is in America. But I'm parture in these situations
at which when I realized what was actually going on, I thought that this
was a relatively say country regarding this kind of occurrences after that. My encounters
happened when I was at college, so I was already an adult. I've
always been a fan of the paranormal. I'm one of those people that are
actually drawn to what they're fear. I grew up on the nineties because I
was born on eighty nine. One word situation that will come in andy.
While I'm the my encounter is that I've always been afraid of wolves ever since
i was a little kid. Because having been born on the way eighties,
I grew up with reading those Goosman series that was a it was meant to
be for children, but one specific book that booked me about was Worldwolf in
the Swamp, and even as it's child, I was always afraid of the
big bad Wolf. This might sound like no sense, but it's not as
well get on with speaking about it, because it was the certification that I
gave myself regarding what I saw, because I had no idea what it was.
As an adult, never read much problem with the par normal. I
mean, I've been I've been bit against pretty much everything from spirits to demons
to want things well, modesty apart, but I consider myself quite a knowledgeable
person regarding this this type of occurrences, especially given the fact that I've got
a great spirit for sensitivity which will always come in and it to explain the
encounters. So this minds sound out of subject, but it's not, and
I will explain everything as we speak to our listeners out there. I just
want to tell them that sometimes, which was my mistake, people tend to
think that this side of situations are like isolated encounters that happen a lot more
in North America and stuff. So did I believe until I started following this
channel because I'm more way fond of seeking information because I think information is power.
So i must apologize to our listeners because I'm going to shutter that illusion.
No, it's not something exclusive to America. It's something that's out there
and it's something dangerous. That's all I wanted to share as off now ATWIST,
You're right, they're definitely out there in places a lot of people wouldn't
believe. And you just mentioned a moment ago that you've always been afraid of
wolves, But what did your encounter due to that fear of them, to
that fear to that didn't do nothing? Because I had no idea what I
was looking at. Although it looked like it had a wolf like appearance,
it walked like a creature. So my first guess is that I was not
walking at a wolf like creature I did. That's very specific area. I
mean, it wasn't a ring road that I have gotten there by accident,
and I already knew before, and that some of those roads outside of the
city itself, outside of urban areas and suburban areas, are known to be
haunted. Because Portugal is a very old country, there are many urban legends.
There's many like well whispered gossip among the older way people. So in
that specific situation, when I speak about everything that happened, my main concern
would never be something like warwolf, dog men or wost soul, So nothing
like that. And actually thought I was looking through something else, Well it
goes with that saying I'm so glad you thought you were looking at something else,
because that just might have put you over the top fearwise. If that
wouldn't have been the case. Do you many people in Portugal know about sasquatch
and dog men? David about sasquatch, I wouldn't be so sure about it,
and about dog men. No, here, people are more looking forward,
like I don't mean I don't actually know all to say this, but
says question is actually I think exclusive to America as far as I know people
here, which was my case. People are more worried about what's not of
this realm, of this physicality, which was my concern when I got lost
at night. I was more worried about what I could find that did not
belong injuring the physical realm. This country is very traditional and it's believes it's
very conservative country. People don't really walk up to something that's physical that's right
at the first step in order to warm them, or we try to.
So. No, never did anyone speak about it, not actually or who
have met one. I didn't think they were spoken about all that often over
there, but I thought i'd ask just to verify. If you've had a
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dot com. All right, David, please tell us about your encounters.
Now, give us every last detail that comes to mind. I hope this
doesn't harm my credibility because back in the day this happened and twelve, I
was a college students and I'm not going to lie. I just looked it.
Our listeners don't judge me on our own way or that he s a
fits my credibility anyway. But I wasn't un good to tire him because he's
tappened after college part two. There's kind enough. ABOL was seeing a year
that too. Sometimes when new buildings are built, they're built on the outskirts
of the city, because well, college students are troublesomewhat, so the city
campuses sometimes tend to be built whenever it's possible, on the outskirts of the
city. At the time, I was studying law in order to become an
attorney. That's why I never built anyone. What had happened that night and
me and some some friends of mine, we decided to go dine out because
there was going to be a concert on the campuses was furthest away from the
city center, which was the science campuses, and since it's like a new
course, comparing like to my own law, because usually law is three.
Those are stuff that they've existed for quite a very long time. So they
were located on the city center itself, and we went to have the dinner
on a restaurant nearby to the campus, and after dinner an execant picture.
We weren't exactly drinking water, and seldom we went to the concert. I
enjoyed it. Afterwards. I remember that I went to get a few beers
for us, but I left my group went to grab a few beers.
But when I came back, the music had ended and everyone in the crowd
was moving back and forth. So I had there was no way I would
reach them because there was so many people moving that it was effortless to go
and find them. So I wasn't quite showing okay anyway, I had had
my field, so I just decided maybe I should take my way because the
night was over. It was already near one am or something, and there's
a publicy in here that you can't make noise after two am. So since
it was almost or was already one something am, I thought I had better
get home, and so I did. So I decided to take the shortest
exit, and I never knew it at the time because that was not my
campus. And there were three exits side. Two of them went to the
city itself and another one led to the outskirts of the city to that ring
road that I mentioned, and that ring road goes all the way around and
out of the city. But since I was pretty drunk at the time and
I had no idea what I was doing, I was a young and silly
college student in a very friendly way town. I think nothing would ever happened
to me even if I touldrow wrong exit out of there. So I walked
for god knows along and when I come to my senses because I couldn't see
anything, everything was bored. But after all that walking at night on a
cood night we were speaking about it was the start of the second semester,
so it was white March or April control a call. After getting some nights
for a share on my face, I started to walk on my surroundings,
and I noticed that I had gotten myself in quite a predictment because I was
out at night on an open field on the road that seemed to go straight
on. In the voice complete you unknown to me to my right was the
ditch, and after the ditch it was open field. To my life there
was a thing through a line that was not continuous, so you could see
that there was open field beyond it. So basically open field on both sides,
except that to my left there was a through one that was intermittent.
And since I was already conscious, althose two what it would be tipsy,
but I had in my complete senses, I decided I have two options.
I would either stay there, which was completely not an option, or I
would continue going down the road to see where it took me, because all
those roads eventually connected it was moveable, or I would find a house or
something. So I just decide to go on. And after I go on
for I don't know how along, because my phone battery was dead, and
we were talking about the time that there were no Google Maps, no everything.
At Whisty Year there weren't, although this is the first World country.
After walking for god knows how much, I noticed a movement from the corner
of my lifetie and that kind of startled me because I already knew that those
roads, some of them were haunted. So I walk and I see the
weirdest creature i'd ever seen, walking on all fours and just wallowing as it
moved because it was so so massive. I had never seen anything like that.
What I first noticed were the legs. The legs were a big compared
to its tirstle. They were really big, and it's it's had inverted knees
like a dog would have. But the angle in which there were place was
really awkward, because it seemed like it SIPs worth standing higher than it said
because of the angle it made and the angle on its knees in the inverted
knees that I mentioned, it was also really steep, and it's arms were
also really wrong but short compared to the size of the toursto at that distance
must have been like, I don't know, fifty meters or something. Sorry,
I don't can't measure fit four yards. I could see it queerly because
there were lamps on that road. They had a few, Like every one
there was another lamp. But it was a night of full moonshine, so
even in between the lamps, I could see everything around me, and it
made me feel a little bit safer, and I was in full use of
my senses. But I couldn't actually picture what I was looking at. I
just want more detail about it. Stores was really big compared to the size
No Stores was always compared to the size of its arms and legs because it
should be bigger. And it had a nump and it had a main on
top of it. It was long, and it was just like whenever it
gave a step, it was just like wobbling around like it owned the place.
I was so curious because since I know that the roles are haunted,
I think it must have been just a spirit trying to mess up with me.
And the words you can do in a situation, why that is to
feel fear. You've got to steal your art and keep your ground. But
I was really curious, so I felt none of that. I just stood
there looking at it. And I stood there looking at it for several minutes
to the point that I got fed up. It never looked at me,
what ignored me, just was on his way or it's way, minding its
own business. And when I finally got fed up, and I thought,
well, I'm still in a predictament because I know I don't know where I
am, so I got to keep moving. So I just kept moving,
and then after what was like two or three seconds, I noticed that something
is amiss, because, like I mentioned, I'm a person that's pretty much
acquinted to the super normal, and I noticed that something is amiss, which
is, I have a sensitivity that warns me when I am in the presence
of something truly troueable. Even back at the time, I was twenty two
or something, twenty one or twenty two, and I felt that I had
no will feeling about it. I never felt in danger. I a never
felt that it presented a threat when situations before, when I had met eval
spirits, I had felt threatened. So when I looked back, and this
was a rather short interval of time, like I mentioned, three or five
seconds, it had gone from being a civil atte that was completely discernible at
why some tons of yards or meters or wherever I want, I call it
to be a spot, a small spot on the distance on the open field.
And this was a mistake because it sort of gave me a reassurance.
Okay, this must surely have been an able spirit, because no waving creature
could move these thoughts in such a short amount of time. But then I
thought, if this was actually a spirit, my sensitivity, my radar towards
evil stuff should have kicked off, and they never did. Was I actually
working at a biological creature, although paranormal creature that was at least for the
most part biological, And this roy always struck me lucky me. Eventually a
driver came back and there was actually a young guy who who had been at
the party as well, and they told me. They asked me what I
was doing out there on the wild because I was nowhere near or anything,
and I apologized when well, just Scott was. When I left the party,
I took the wrong exit, so I ended up in Heroon and I
was trying to find someone or some mouse in order to to end a phone,
to to grab a texture or something. And it was okay, I'm
gonna give your right on. And by these things I already had given a
good thought about it. I knew I was in troubled, so getting on
a car with a stranger was less of a problem than being out in the
open at night alone with the creature that I couldn't exactly tell what it was.
I still think of it to this day. And that's why your channel
was so important for me, because it gave me a lot of answers.
Fast forward them two years. I already left the town, but I was
getting a girl that still lived in there, funny enough, in one of
those scattered villages that exist around up a big city. After that. I
think it was an unconscious feeling because I always felt an easy when I was
at her boys. It was in a very exalted area, and the village
itself, if it had why call photos analysis, it would be a lot.
Never accounted them, but I think they if they amount to that much
to those many whenever I will stayed there, I was since I wasn't sure
about what I had seen. This was sort of an unconscious feeling that something
might be out there watching me. Because a Rouse was right at the end
of the village. After Arouse, it would there was only when else I
had never been there, and we started going there after I had moved out
of that city. But the fun fact is there too. Rose was on
a I viewpoint, so I could see that the city itself that I had
lived in so many years was surrounded by mountains and forests. But a person
that is with there for so long there has no idea of it, because
since you are already in a night point, which is on a wail,
you can picture what's around you, and yet there's mountains and forests around it,
but like overround it. I try to forget what had happened to me,
put it beyond my back, because I had a logical explanations with I
just told myself that my necessitivity was impaired because of what happened that night.
Although when it happened, I was almost folways sober. But that was the
excuse that I gave myself. I always felt uneasy because all of our own
our rows, their pine trees. Jose was small. She didn't live with
her parents, along with her with her mother, and with her your grandfather,
and with her grandmother. This also relevant or future reference in the story.
Her father wasn't in theirs, he was working abroad. Well, after
all that easiness and everything, I mostly out of respect, I accepted not
sweeping in the house because they had an attic that was mostly are living room.
Since the family was very conservative, and although I was dating her had
nowhere to stay, I accepted sweeping in the attic. The attic itself was
not accessible from the house. To combat mental stairway in order to get there.
It had an emotion sensor at the top which would turn off a small
name white. The thing is that the stairway was too long in order for
a person to reach the top in time. I remember whenever I was out,
I would commander those stairs running because the feeling often isn't was way too
strong. And I can't exactly answer a why if I was asked, because
that's why say it wasn't unconscious, because I couldn't explain what had happened.
I just didn't feel okay there, as if there was some sort of ominous
presence around, not like something looking at me, but something ominous around.
And that village. Not gonna at the name of the village, but I'm
gonna say it has a very fitful past because back in the day that Portugal
was still a monarchy and that the Moors were still in Portugal during the Conquista,
which is what the istory speaks was a period for a conquest of the
Iberian peninsula. Historically, the Moors were cruscified on that village because it was
on top of a year it was I avoted from the city, so I
always went the failing that I had to the bad energy of that voice either
way, since I wasn't sweeping in stidy house properly. Every now and then
she would come up, stay with me for some time in the attic,
and then she would wave after an hour or so. So there's this night
that she had been there and she has left, and I'm standing yeah,
so to say, I swept on a motors on before, but I felt
so uneasy that, since it was on what was supposed to be a living
room, I poised the mattress behind a couch in order for me not to
have an angle to walk at the twin Trader, which was made of metal
and that type of glass that it sporries so you can see outside and wherever
is outside can see inside as well, only like shadows of stuff moving,
et cetera. And there was one particular night that she she had been gone
for like what was an hour or so, and I was sweeping, like
I said, beyond the couch on the mattress, and I heard the motion
since her going off, because it made a sort of quick and the white
came in the giatic. But I actually didn't care about it because no one
would come, and I thought it must be her. Her grandfather was ill.
Her mother worked next day like royally early. Her grandmother was probably Sunday
sweep as well. I thought it was her, and I hear the door
hand all being turned what I are already looked it, so I couldn't see
what was on the other side of the door because I didn't even put my
eye up in order to check. I was already sweepy. She had been
gone for like an hour or something, so I didn't actually cared. But
before this happened, I could hear the the metal stairway clanking, and then
they are the metal cranking again yet again. When someone comes up, the
door goes on. When someone goes down, the white goes on again,
although for a short period of time. But that got me thinking what she
what if she forgot anything appeared because I haven't moved from the same ploys ever
since she weft So I texted her like, why did you come all the
way appear like without texting me or anything. You know that I don't feel
comfortable here alone. You should have text me have you forgotten anything in here?
And there was no response back, although it had been like ten or
fifteen minutes after that occurrence, and when hour something, when we're in and
off. After she had left, I'll just dropped dish. Nextday morning,
I go at breakfast in Saudia's pership and they asked her I never applied my
message, And before coming up acquiling down, i've I've checked if you forgot
something up there, and you didn't, and she tells me I was already
asleep. I never went up there. And when she tells me this,
my heart sank because I knew whatever I had been there. It was no
neighbors because no neighbors first would go there. No Burger, because no Burger
will ever do that. We go to an attic. If anything would strike,
go to the house. And given that I had a phenomenon that was
an explainable I thought they were avoided. I'm not sure if it was the
same creature or not, but I bet it was because it ignored me twice.
An apex predators are very proud of themselves, so I went out,
specially given the area. We were on the same area. Okay, it
has passes to wire, it has pointy of game to one et c.
But a creature that big needs tweet a lot, So I severely doubt that
it was another one. It must have been the same. It must have
trucked my sense all the way there, because it was not that far in
terms of the distance they can cover from the boys from that ring roads.
Because the person that gave me a rather exploited me where I was. I
was going on the complete opposite direction of the city, and there house was
also on the complete opposite direction from the city, so it was all on
the same direction. So this forrked me about. I always thought it was
something not physical out of this world, but after hearing to some of your
podcasts and everything, it kind of helped me put the business together that it
was not the spirit. That was not an evil spirit taking that form.
It was not anything it comported with. It's on the pattern that whenever you
meet one, more encounters are going to happen after that, so it must
have been the same creature. I just think I was lucky enough not to
have actually scene its face, scene its eyes, interact with that directly,
because I don't know what would have happened to me if I had opened that
door thinking it was our or tried to interact it when I was out in
the open at night. It could have snatched me, killed me, etc.
One thing that always scared me is that it's a common pattern that one
a person is alone impaired, there are more prone to be attacked. I
fulfilled these two requisites and you're still I am. So I think I was
lucky, luckier than some of your guests. So, and this was something
that I only realized like some three four months ago, when I started listening
to your channel. That's why I'm telling you that you're doing a very important
work. And another thing that I realize is I was lucky because on that
very first encounter, well I mean both of them, I wasn't actually afraid
because I never actually I realized the den for I was if you come to
think that dogs can feel, can sense a person's fear, surely this type
of creature can. And these are intelligence and the actually seem to feed off
a person's fear. It seems that they like knowing that the victim is trapped,
that they have no way out. The only thing that saved me on
both situations, and I'm in saving as the term actually means it because I
never gave it a chance of coming the right way to me. I never
try to interact with it. I never went off as far as to police
myself in it on a situation of greater danger. Although these things might be
biological, they also ever predatory feeling regarding them predatory slash paranormal. I think
they just want to talk people and make they feel trapped and everything, like
a regular human psychopath would like, because that's been pinpointed on many documentaries that
psychopaths seem to like the feeling that their victim is afraid that their victim is
trapped it they will come back later. It's a sort of dominance that they
like to feel. And this creature is dominant because it's an apex predator.
So I was luckier than reasonable about situations, and I could give a few
advices to listener, which is, if you ever are unlucky enough to meet
one, please try to stay calm because if these creatures want to get you,
those certain of the will, so just don't be the jest. Don't
play their game, or maybe you should because if you don't play it again,
they might downright kill you. I don't know what to say. Maybe
this wasn't the best advice ever. Sorry, it's a situation that its inc
works. Swim there is no like reasonable response or rational response to it.
It's the creature bigger than a horse can kill it on the rights, and
they're known to kill warses. And that's about it now that I'm speaking about
it, getting over to bits poked up. That's how it normally is for
our witnesses, so that doesn't make any difference from most of them. How
far do you think you were from campus where you had that first experience,
David, I don't know, but the guy to have to gave me a
right when I asked them which way it would take, like going back or
take me to the city through the Ring road, told me that it was
exactly what he wanted to do, because I was closer to an exit that
led me to the city rather than to campus. So I must have walked
for two or three hours by myself out in the open. I remember that
I when I got home, it was around five am, and I after
at once something because as I knew, like I mentioned that the music would
in that tool and that I was not okay, So it must have been
like a three hour walk. That's a pretty good distance. He mentioned precisely
that I was farther away from dun than close to it. It sure sounds
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men because you're drunk, what would you say to them about that? The
thing is, no one actually imagines a creature like that. It's not something
that's a normal human being can actually picture because it had features, It's had
a way of moving that I had never seen on any and anything. That's
how I even breathing. And I mean, we don't have wolves, we
don't have bears, we don't have anything. And the size of its in
the wax, and the way that it was moving, not eaving any milk
can move like that. So if you see something which don't right off imagination,
like if you see a unicorn, Okay, you might have seen a
unicorn, but this, this is not a being that your conscious mind can
can picture. Something comport way out of the ordinary. I was away a
bit drunk, yeah, I admit it, and I hope that doesn't take
any credibility regarding what I saw. But I was already in full possession of
my senses because after walking for such a long time with the night's fresh air,
and I added a really good dinner so that drunkness wouldn't last for long.
So I will I was tipsy, but I was full of what was
surrounding me. You make some good points. You're not gonna imagine seeing something
like that just because you're drunk. One of the options you considered was asking
for help if you found a house. Considering the fact that it was around
one am at the time, how most people there in Portugal respond to having
someone knock on the front door at one am? Well, Vic, I
consider asking for up since my phoneless dead. I think that's a really important
question, because either that thing moved away or is still in there. It
actually depends. But regarding that situation that you told me of imagining things,
I've got to say something which is really important. I'm a person that's against
strokes, so I never took anything besides beer and wine. So I'm not
the kind of a person that engaged just in thostup of effectivities. It's just
the way I am. I just drugs. I avoid them. I avoid
people you use them. So it was only straightway like beer during the party
and one at dinner, and one and dinner at party, So it makes
up like some stuff. The way they would react, well, it depends
on how we approached them. People you're in Portugal are really approachable. So
if they see a young adult begging for help, well, of course everyone
if someone rings it another's or bell at like one it was not one am,
it was one am when I left. It must have been like two
or three when I saw it, and God knew how long it would take
me for me to reach outse Well, if they if they saw someone desperate,
they would surely help, because I mean, that's someone's son after all,
and special students. I was vallable to speech. Like I told you,
I was completely aware of my of my sences, of everything. I
seemed a little bit spooky. But even when the the guy that gave me
a ride, he never felt anything weird about me, just felt that I
was a little bit disturbed. So in case of distress, I think a
family would receive well, my poyet for help. It sounds like you have
some good people there in your country, because over here in the United States,
if you go ring someone's doorbell at two or three am, in most
cases, it's not going to go all that Well, you told us about
the strange posture it had, David, did it move in an awkward way
or was it well coordinated as it moved? It was well coordinated, Like
I've just got to see some documentaries like the Yon walks on the savanna,
like walking slowly, like just wobbling around without that muscle mass. You walked
the wake away and walking except for its wolf for it's see in the legs,
but because they are completely different from a lion given the angle that it's
inverted. News work bois then, but it seemed that he on the walk
countrysides like I'm not king off the savanna, but I'm king off the converse
and around there, so railway confident walking and it's like railway coordinated walking.
So if it's Torso looked small compared to its arms and legs, did it
look sick to you? Sorryfic, I think it's the other way around.
It. Strso looked a lot bigger because it had a lamp and it at
the man on top of it. It seemed the legs and arms or wherever
we're smaller compared to the torson And I'm sorry if I explained it wrong.
It seemed like it's strso comprised, like I'm not gonna say two thirds,
but it's torso was a lot bigger because the legs were a thing. But
you could see that it was muscle, really big legs big torso and arms
really big as well. But it seemed to be awake. It was a
weird creature. How do I explain this? The lamp was what made it
huge, because without the lamp it would be river proportional everything one twitcher.
So yeah, the torso was massive and the add was long. I couldn't
see its features from that distance, but the dorso is big compared to the
other parts. It seemed like it seemed likes and its arms or whatever weren't
fitting in there. You know, that must have been a site to see.
How tall would you say it was comparing its side to the trees that
it stood near to. If that thing gets too on two leggs, I
think I wouldn't chich its waste. I'm not a tall guy. I'm five
four, so yeah, already brows this in order to make an accurate compare
reason between my size and it's. Yeah, most like I wouldn't even reach
each waist. Well, that is pretty big. Then were we able to
see enough detail to tell how it was holding its ears? In other words,
if I was holding its ears up or laying them back. No,
it was so far away. I could see the ship off, it said,
but I couldn't see ears or nothing. It was like thirty meters away
from me. No, I couldn't see years. No, that is pretty
far away at nighttime. How do you describe the shape of its head though,
Well, like I told you, I was far away. But the
best way I can describe it is have you ever seen on like a skull
of dog? Which is why Carrilla long It didn't like that, because since
I couldn't see any features and it was completely black, I could see just
the features that I described, But it was like and I won't get to
that like the ones you see on science books or regarding the skull of canine
mammals symbol like that. Besides that, I could see no feature like no
longer snout know anything at a distance. Everything's in the same well, like
I said, there must have been a sight to see it never looked at
you, but you think somehow, some way it still knew that you were
there. I think it did. I was the only wandering somewhere around.
So sometimes I get to feel and that is simply decided to ignore me that
night, like it was not convenient to interact with me, could have snatched
me, killed me, et cetera. But it is a really small country.
It's not like every day or every year every decade that college didn't goes
missing after a night out party, so where it's situations don't tend to happen
in years. So these creatures, I think they're really conscious about themselves under
pois in the world. So it knew that it must better off wave me
alone in that specific situation. I mean, if it's a kilome or something.
They are intelligent. It knew it couldn't go back to that area because
that area would be under surveillance if a body was found there, or even
if it was found several kilometers away, the Corey monopolis would keep an eye
on the wall area until they found something or someone to put the blame on.
So don't take these creatures as stupids and not aware of what the stakes
are, because they definitely are intelligent and in other consequences for their acts,
they only act. They don't tact out avolition the only act when I know
they have a queer opportunity to get in something, and that wouldn't be on
such a small areas these countries or dinner biasque countries. Pain everything is the
same. There woulden areas, yes, but there's not as many posses to
whites. Well, it sounds to me like there are enough places for these
guys to hide. They are everywhere, after all. Two years later,
when you have that second experience when you heard the metal stairway clanking, did
it sound to you like padded feet coming up? Or did it sound like
claws clicking on the metals steps? I couldn't hear if their work wasn't not
but I was depot. I still wouldn't want to sweep. But the noise
from the service was so old that it could have been wearing boots that I
wouldn't hear the boots. I would just hear the clanking. Did you ever
hear whatever it was outside make any vocalizations? Yes, I adhered something while
screatious and the middle of the night, but really acute and felt weird,
felt a natural. And when I come pointed to the girl that I was
dating back then, she told me, oh, those were always the foxes.
And I thought, no, no way those were foxes, because if
those were foxes, you're dogs. She had two small dogs that never went
inside the house. They were always outside, would be barking, and the
wall neighborhoods dogs would be would be barking. As few as they are,
you could hear them. It's like the same situation. I don't know if
a listeners have this experience. For example, when dogs here like cat fights
in the middle of the night when it's mating season, all the dogs are
going to bark. It's the stem with foxes when they are arm mating season
and make noises or they get into pirates between themselves, all the dogs around
bark. It was not a situation was like that silence. Yeah, that
was a good tribe by her to explain it away, But you're right,
it definitely wasn't a fox. What's about time for us to get out of
here. But before we do, do you have any closing comments you'd like
to share? Not. Actually, I just want people storia wise and be
careful unless you are in the middle of a big city and that we've got
to be careful with humans. But if you are close to the edge of
the city or town on suburban area, always walk your windows, walk your
door at night, especially if you are not living enough flat plays. Take
care of yourself because there are things alter that are not exploitable as often.
So I would just like to tell our listeners that please don't think that it's
like a ghost story or anything, because these are no ghost stories. This
isn't no funny situation. People have been killed, people have gone ness,
So don't take this lightweight. They're stiff thought there, just she said,
I would to said, yeah, it is a pretty disconcerting thought, the
fact that if dogmen are out there, than what else might be. So
that's a good point. Well, David, I can't thank you enough for
coming on. I'm sharing the details of those experiences with us. I really
appreciate it. No, thank you a walt. Like I said, right,
it's a start for me. It's supposed to an honor and the pleasure.
Never really appreciate what you're doing in here. So well, you know
you're welcome. It's been an honor and a pleasure to have you on.
Thanks again so much for your time, and have a great night.