WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:37.840 day. Now here's Nick coffee. I'm not sure how interesting this is. 3 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.640 Two folks certainly wouldn't find it to be entertaining. But one of the things 4 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:47.399 we've discussed here recently in regards to college athletics and the big change that's coming 5 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:57.039 that is the Landmark House Settlement, this lawsuit where the settlement we knew was 6 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.399 going to happen. Well, now that it's happened, we know the amount 7 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:06.879 of money that schools are going to be able to annually pay athletes. So 8 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.439 this is the latest. Schools can share as much as twenty two million dollars 9 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:15.480 annually with athletes under this new again Landmark House Settlement. So the collegiate salary 10 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:21.040 cap is twenty two million dollars per year, which allows universities to pay up 11 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:26.239 to that amount at their discretion. So they can decide if they're going to 12 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.760 spend that much. That's the limit, and how they decide to divvy it 13 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:34.200 out is up to them. Now, what I think is a little bit 14 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:40.480 confusing here is that apparently you can do this but not technically make them employees. 15 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.439 So this doesn't mean they're going to be employees. And there's some obvious 16 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.480 reasons as to why that would be a big kicker. One of them it's 17 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:49.760 not tax related, by the way, because again, if you're a college 18 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:55.879 player and you're making a million dollars in nil or your college, you're a 19 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.359 college employee playing and making a million dollars through the school, you still have 20 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:01.400 to pay taxes on it. I don't know why that's become like a big 21 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:07.319 talking point, whereas the tax situation is different one or the other. It's 22 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:09.199 not you're gonna have to pay taxes on I mean, Uncle Sam's gonna get 23 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:12.719 his cut. There's no way around it if it's an IL or if it's 24 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:16.840 not. So I'm just curious to see what happens from here, like what 25 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:22.199 takes place at some of these schools. What decisions did they make right? 26 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:24.199 What are they prioritize right? Are they Are they going to cut a sport 27 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.919 to save money? Are they going cause again they're not getting like it's not 28 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.639 like they're getting twenty two million, They're going to have to start paying twenty 29 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:36.199 two million annually to players that they didn't have to pay before. So there's 30 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.280 going to be some cuts. Doesn't mean they're going to cut a program, 31 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:45.800 but you know, little things like maybe let's just say in a few years, 32 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:52.960 you end up needing a new oc well because now you're paying players and 33 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.199 you're using the amount of money they're allowing you to use. Twenty two million, 34 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:59.080 and that's the cap. You know, maybe the new maybe the head 35 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:00.520 coach when he goes out and look for a new play caller, he didn't 36 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:05.560 have the budget that he had last time around, because again, like unlimited 37 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:10.039 amount of money doesn't really exist. And I guess potentially you could, you 38 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.159 know, if you've got money to move around, like, you can find 39 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.039 other ways to compensate your coaches at the highest level. But you know, 40 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:20.919 twenty two millions a lot. And there are schools that that that's not a 41 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.080 lot of money to them, meaning they have a lot more than that. 42 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.960 But that's a small group of schools. I would say, so, yeah, 43 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:30.800 twenty two million. And you gotta keep in mind, you know, 44 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:35.479 there's how many scholarship players in football? I mean I should know this, 45 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.759 but is it one hundred? No, Because you can have you can have 46 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.599 eighty five. I think that's about right. Yeah, because you usually have 47 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.840 about one hundred guys in your roster, and then that makes for roughly eighty 48 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:49.319 something scholarship guys and then some walk ons. But yeah, I mean, 49 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.240 and I will still exist too. I mean that's not like I mean, 50 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.879 I'll stand corrected if in fact that ends up not being the case. But 51 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.719 I think there are some that believe, well, this is to get rid 52 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.719 of nil, and it's not. I mean, this is just a What 53 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.479 I mean, this is because there was a lawsuit the nce double A was 54 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:15.160 going to lose right because of the amount of money that they profit from unpaid 55 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.279 work. And I know the conversation that has been had for many years, 56 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.519 and I'm not trying to have the conversation today because it's stale, it's not 57 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:28.120 even relevant. Yes, they do, in fact get a scholarship, free, 58 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.079 free education, room and board, great access to medical because of their 59 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.519 status as an athlete, and they get a stipend and now they can make 60 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.920 money through name, image and likeness. Like I don't want to paint it 61 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:44.360 as if every college athlete is just out here roughing it and barely you know, 62 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.879 able to survive with you know, food and their stomach and a roof 63 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:51.199 over their head. They are taken care of in a major way. That's 64 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:58.120 a different conversation than looking at the amount of money that the nc DOUBLEA generates 65 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:05.199 from basketball the NCAA tournament specifically to know that that kind of money is made 66 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:11.759 and the employees, the talent, the entertainers get no cut of that, 67 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.639 like that that you can't do that, Like that's not legal, and that's 68 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.160 why they were going to lose the lawsuit, and that's why they came to 69 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:23.759 this settlement. But I'm anxious to see down the line sort of what this, 70 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:30.199 you know, what this turns into, because it's already professional sports, 71 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:38.000 right, we know that, but this will be to where I think this 72 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:43.560 is going to make it to where anybody claiming like that it's not pro sports 73 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.600 and there's still some level of like amateur model to it is just I mean 74 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.759 just wrong. I mean I think they're already wrong now when they say that. 75 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:55.560 But when you hear salary cap for a college about paying players of different 76 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.560 sports, all sports depending on what they want to do, like this is 77 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.319 pro sports now and I don't care because again it's kind of been that way 78 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:08.160 for a while now. Like I never sit around and watch college basketball college 79 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.920 football, the two sports I love so much. I don't sit around and 80 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.240 just think, oh, man, this is great because it's wholesome. There's 81 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.439 a purity to it. These guys are playing for the name on the front, 82 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:20.680 Like, even if that was true, that's not something that I think 83 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:25.000 of when I consume the product that is college basketball, college fall. It's 84 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.720 entertainment to me. But some people are like that, and I've learned throughout 85 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.160 the last few years that the sport's going to survive without those folks. But 86 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:36.079 there are some that are just it makes them uncomfortable. Maybe they're jealous. 87 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:41.279 I don't know what it is, but just knowing that you know a quarterback 88 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:46.639 for your team he throws an interception and he's walking off the field after the 89 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:50.319 bad play, you're going to be angry in general, because man, like, 90 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.639 what are you thinking throwing that ball? But knowing that he might have 91 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.319 a nicer car than you in the parking lot. There are some people that 92 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.560 that makes you even more angry than just the interception. I can't relate. 93 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.759 I don't understand that, but I think it's true. So it's a good 94 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:10.079 question that came in right as soon as we started discussing this, and this 95 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.600 is a longer text that I can't haven't actually read the entire thing, but 96 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:18.879 what I think you're what you're asking here is that will the booster money like 97 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:25.120 Rick Keeber at Glow Brands, Planet Fitness and in Senten City, will that 98 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:31.720 money specifically go towards nil to where like you're not asking fans to donate, 99 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.439 like, collectives are important because you need to raise money. And I think 100 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:39.000 the five to two Circle has done a really good job. That campaign they 101 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.040 put together where Rick Keeber was gonna match a million dollars once fans contributed a 102 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.560 million dollars like that was a great idea. It worked, and it really 103 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.399 got people like collectively realizing, hey, we're all excited as a fan base 104 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.000 here here we go. Everybody's putting money up to try to go build this 105 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:55.519 new team. And that's great. But if they could get away from like 106 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.879 asking fans again, fans are going to do it because fans care so much, 107 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.399 they're so passionate, they're going to pay if they can to try to 108 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.160 help support their team and help. In fact, some fans probably feel even 109 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.480 more responsible for said success if they're giving fifty dollars a month and it's helping 110 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.879 to get players, which is cool, but I just still think there's a 111 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.639 level of like, come on now, like you asking fans and again there's 112 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.079 an out for it right now, Right now, you're asking fans to pay 113 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:26.439 because you can't. Well now you can. So only time will tell as 114 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.160 far as what it really looks like. But the cuts that are made, 115 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.919 the sacrifices schools decide to make to make this work and to compete at the 116 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.960 sports that they realize. Like, let's just be real, if you're really 117 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.679 good in football, or really good in basketball, or maybe really good in 118 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:48.159 women's basketball, maybe really good in baseball, maybe really good in volleyball, 119 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.919 Like not all of those are gonna make you a ton of money if you're 120 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:52.399 having success, because you know, it does cost money to run those programs 121 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.039 as well. But like that is better all that is, that is better 122 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:01.720 for the university than it is if you are good at sports that like just 123 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.840 just costs money. And I hate to say that, but that's just that's 124 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.639 just the reality of it. So what changes are made as far as how 125 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:07.879 these schools decide to move forward is going to be fascinating. To me, 126 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.919 but I also want to see what NIL looks like once this is in place, 127 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:18.080 because they're still going to be in il and I just part of me 128 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.840 says it'll be less, It'll be it'll be light, but again maybe not 129 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:28.720 right like this again, like college sports is something that certain people, the 130 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.080 diehard fans that are so passionate about their school, and there's a lot of 131 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.919 them like they'll find a way to get money if they have access to it, 132 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.200 to help, to help because they care that much. All right, 133 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.639 it's coffee and company. We are feel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven 134 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:45.000 to ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. I will tell you the 135 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.279 the anonymous quotes. We'll get to that coming up in just a moment. 136 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.240 So the ACC, it's not just the ACC, it's I think I think 137 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:56.440 every league does it. But Athlon Sports release their accuh annual article where it 138 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:03.279 shares anonymous quotes from different ACC coaches about each team. And over the years, 139 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:05.600 these have always been to me on the Louisville side, kind of you 140 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.279 know, fluff, like there's not a whole lot there like it. Rarely 141 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.039 do you read didn't think, man, I can't believe this coach said that 142 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:15.960 I can't wait to fee I wish I knew who it was. The only 143 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.960 time I could think of that is whenever an anonymous coach talked about like how 144 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.600 bad Lamar Jackson was and how bad he'd be in the NFL, and how 145 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.039 you know all of his weaknesses. And there's no scenario where I will ever 146 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.799 believe it was anybody other than Dave Clawson, because that's just the only coach 147 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.360 that I think it could have been. And that added to like that, 148 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.039 you know, I don't want to call a rivalry because it'd be embarrassing to 149 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.519 claim that your rival is Wake Forest in football, but you know there was 150 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.159 there was some history there and that was that was part of it. But 151 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:46.080 here's here is what four different coaches had to say about Louisville anonymously. Watch 152 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.320 out for these guys. They were ahead of schedule last season and sneaked up 153 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.440 on a lot of teams in our league. Okay, that's positive comment, 154 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.639 right, not a whole lot there. But this says the offense is good, 155 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.639 but it's not that level brom normally operates at. The quarterback play has 156 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.360 been good and solid, but never really great. So they brought in Shuck 157 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.080 to take over the job. Okay, I mean I would have loved to 158 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:13.159 have heard more of a comment and a thought on what you think of Shuck, 159 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.679 But look, I think the kids got everything you want. Is you 160 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.200 know, when it comes to quarterbacks that have really succeeded under Jeff Brahmin, 161 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.559 I'm not talking about Jack Plumber, although he did win ten games. Let's 162 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.519 be real. The offense was good enough, and again they were successful. 163 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.320 But you can say this with that without it being an insult. I think 164 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.240 it's just the truth. The quarterback position was probably your weakness on offense. 165 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.279 So usually it's the strength when Jeff Brom's calling the plays and he knows how 166 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.840 to really get the most out of somebody in their ability at that position. 167 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.240 I think Shuck is that guy. It all just comes down to him being 168 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:48.320 healthy. He's never been able to stay healthy and hopefully that changes this year. 169 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.679 Here's another quote. The defense really carried them at parts of last season. 170 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.159 They are stronger than you think and can play really physical. Last quote 171 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.679 here, they don't get enough national attention. Brom's back home, he knows 172 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.440 the state and can recruit better talent to that place than it Purdue. They 173 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.519 can be just as good this year, especially if the offense opens up more. 174 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.519 I like that. I mean, I think we're getting some good national 175 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.720 attention. But you know, you can never have too much, I guess. 176 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:18.679 But I mean, last year you won ten games. Your defense really 177 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.159 did carry you. I think that's actually true. Like the defense last year 178 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.440 at times really bailed you out. And you should be better defensively this year, 179 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.440 in all seriousness. You should. I don't know if you're going to 180 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.759 be, but you should be better. You brought back some really proven, 181 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.039 talented players, and you brought in some good transfers. You got MJ. 182 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:39.320 Griffin off of an injury, and he was apparently the best player in camp 183 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.080 before he got hurt last year. But if Jeff Brom's opening up the playbook 184 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.799 and there's really there's a lot, you know, the offense is really dynamic 185 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.440 like we have typically seen under other Jeff Brom coach teams. You haven't seen 186 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.399 it in Louisville yet. And look, the offense was good. I don't 187 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:58.480 act as if they know they weren't good offensively. They were, but with 188 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.799 the pieces they've added, especially if Shuck is the real deal, and he 189 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.559 stays healthy. I mean, I mean, you could mean. I don't 190 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:07.919 want to get ahead of myself here, but I wouldn't be shocked if Louisville 191 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.000 is in a position to where they're right there with a chance to play in 192 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:15.720 the ACEC Championship game. The schedule is a little bit tougher, but it's 193 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.120 not you know, there's still aren't There are still not games on the schedule 194 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.879 that you look at and say, well, damn, we automatically should just 195 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:24.279 look at that and consider it to be a loss. I'm not saying you 196 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.960 should expect to go twelve and oh, but you got to go on the 197 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.600 road and play at Clemson. That's a game that you will be big underdogs, 198 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.440 actually if you will be at the time. But like, what was 199 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.399 the line nine and a half? I think Louislle plus nine and a half 200 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.320 was one of the early lines we got from Louisville schedule a few weeks ago 201 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:46.000 from I think DraftKings, and they'll be dogs. They'll probably lose because it's 202 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.120 hard to win it Clemson. But then again, like we're not We're not 203 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.000 talking about Sat taking the boys down to South Carolina. We're talking about Jeff 204 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.279 Brohm who wins big games. And oh, by the way, Clemson ain't 205 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:00.399 what they used to be. They're still good. I'm not disrespect them as 206 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.440 if they're bums, but like this, Clemson is not the Clemson that was 207 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:07.480 making the playoff every year. It's a much different version of them. So 208 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.039 I'm excited, really really excited. All right before we get to our first 209 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:15.039 break here in the five o'clock hour. You know, I don't have a 210 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.559 strong thought on this, but it is something that has become a talking point 211 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.639 in the NFL, and I imagine people around here have discussed it as well. 212 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.440 That's Lamar Jackson leaving seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars on the table. 213 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:37.399 He reportedly missed more than eighty percent of the Ravens offseason workouts, which nullified 214 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.759 a major contractual payday. Just to show up to the offseason workouts eighty percent 215 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:48.440 of them, you get three fourths of a million dollars. I mean, 216 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.480 he's got a lot of money. He's not hurting for it. I can't 217 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.639 like claim, well that means he's not working hard, because I don't. 218 00:14:54.679 --> 00:15:01.440 I don't know that, but it is. It's not a bad look. 219 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:03.840 But it's certainly not a good look, right, Like he doesn't. He 220 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.919 just won his second MVP. I think at that point you can trust it. 221 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.600 In the offseason, he's shown that he's fully capable of putting in work 222 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:16.440 to continue to be a really good player. So it'd be different if this 223 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.440 is a guy who you know, was all based off hype rarely ever delivered. 224 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.360 Like that's not Lamar Again. He's now won the MVP Trophy twice. 225 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.480 And I think the Ravens this year, I mean their window, it's not 226 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.159 closing by any means, but I think they got like a couple more years 227 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.080 to where, you know, they break through and make it to the Super 228 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:35.840 Bowl, which, by the way, they were a game away last year. 229 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.519 And I hate to say this, but it's just the truth. Like, 230 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.720 as long as Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs are doing their thing, the 231 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:50.120 Ravens could be elite in a different era. But if the Chiefs are still 232 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.240 doing the Chiefs Chiefs are still doing Chiefs things, If you know what I'm 233 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.039 saying, you're just you're gonna have a tough time gett past him because they're 234 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:03.559 that good. But here was my initial thought. This actually might be the 235 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:11.200 first real, actual piece of evidence of where an agent could help you, 236 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.000 because he didn't have an agent, right, he trusts himself and his mother, 237 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.600 and I'm sure he has like an attorney in some former fashion. But 238 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.919 an agent would who put this deal together for you? Was it last year 239 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.840 when Lamar played? It was last year Lamar's first year on that new contract. 240 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:32.240 Yes, And I think an agent would make sure that, like, 241 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.320 you don't have to show up to eighty percent of the offseason stuff when you 242 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:37.720 And again, at the time, he hadn't I mean, he hadn't won 243 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.919 the second MVP yet, but let's be real, at the time he signed 244 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:45.399 that contract, like that was a humongous investment from the Ravens. May not 245 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.679 have been the guaranteed money that Lamar wanted, but still he got a great 246 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.679 deal. And I just feel like an agent would have paid attention to those 247 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:53.919 kind of things to make it. Because I don't know this, I could 248 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.960 be totally wrong, but I feel like a lot of players of Lamar's status 249 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:04.680 are aren't contractually obligated with that level of an incentive based on being there in 250 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:10.480 the off season. I think a lot of dudes that are superstars in the 251 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:17.440 league they are probably rarely there in the off season because they've proven they don't 252 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:21.359 have to be right. They trust themselves, the franchise trusts them to do 253 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:22.759 whatever they need to do in the off season to keep playing at a high 254 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.960 level and performing at a high level. I just again, I could be 255 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.000 totally wrong. That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that, 256 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.160 is that that's like a fine print kind of thing in your contract to where 257 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:36.440 an agent would step up and say, no, you know, we can 258 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.960 do other incentive based things if you want. But like, he didn't have 259 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.599 to be here eighty percent of the off season because I don't mean to me 260 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:48.680 that, you know, it's if it's volunteer workouts, not being there for 261 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:53.960 eighty percent of the volunteer stuff when you probably don't live in Baltimore during the 262 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:56.000 year, because you know, I'm sure he's there a lot, but he 263 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:00.640 lives he's always in Florida, where he's from. IL Like, it's rare 264 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.079 for that type of stipulation to be in there. But then again, Lamar 265 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.119 wasn't a rare situation overall, because, understandably so, the Ravens they wanted 266 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.480 him, They wanted to make him the franchise quarterback and that clearly at this 267 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.480 point looks like it was a great investment. But you know, he had 268 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.920 two years where he got injured and didn't finish the season, and that made 269 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:21.720 him a little bit weary. So you know, I would think if he's 270 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:23.680 such a fragile player, like maybe like you know, I I was gonna 271 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.799 saye, they wouldn't want him doing a lot of workouts in the off season 272 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:27.880 to keep him healthy. But then again, like you can get hurt walking 273 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:32.119 down the street. But yeah, I feel i'd feel bad. And this 274 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.519 is clearly just me being biased because I love Lamar. I feel like I 275 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.119 feel like it's his stretch. Just say that it is a bad look, 276 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.279 but it's not a good look, you know what I mean. That's that's 277 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.519 the way I see it. But I have no doubt that it will not 278 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:48.079 have an impact at all on his ability. But also I'm curious how this 279 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:52.519 became like a story. I mean, is there a writer that like was 280 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.759 is going over like incentive based things and point of that, because that I 281 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.119 mean, that's I mean, that's I think a lot of people are even 282 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.839 surprised that that type of you know, that type of incentive was even in 283 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.440 there. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. 284 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:08.039 We got a lot more to get into here before we wrap it up. 285 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:12.680 One thing I want to remind you guys of on the other side. 286 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:17.799 You may already know this, but we eight years ago today, something something 287 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:21.279 major happened around here, and that part of me says, it feels like 288 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:22.920 it was eighteen years ago. Also kind of feels like it was just the 289 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.799 other day. But we'll talk about that in a lot more. It is 290 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:27.640 Coffee and Company we are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety 291 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.119 all right, so we mentioned it at the beginning of the hour here. 292 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:38.119 The financial I guess require it's not really a requirement. It's really your choice. 293 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:47.039 But with the settlement in this NCAA antitrust lawsuit, twenty two million dollars 294 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:52.240 annually is the most that schools can pay college athletes. They're not required to 295 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.079 do that. That's the salary cap. The schools are going to be able 296 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:57.759 to pay up to that at their discretion. Now, one of the things 297 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:00.680 that is probably obvious to a lot of people, but I hadn't thought much 298 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.599 about it, is that you can't I mean, can you still bring in 299 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:08.160 I guess you can, but like if it's a known thing, hey we're 300 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.240 only doing ten million, Like you're gonna get left behind, right, Like 301 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.400 you can't. I mean I guess if you choose to to spend it wisely, 302 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:21.279 Like if you're if you're a big E school and you don't have a 303 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:25.319 football team, like maybe you can say like, we don't, like the 304 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:29.319 reason we're not going to twenty two million is because we don't even have the 305 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:30.960 athletes that would require that, you know what I mean, Like, no, 306 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.000 no sport has more athletes than football, and a lot of big E 307 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.799 schools don't have football. Some of them have like FCS teams, but some 308 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.240 of them don't even have teams. So I can't imagine that if you're trying 309 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.559 to continue to compete at the top. And what I mean by that is 310 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:51.759 you don't want to exist in a place where like, we know we'll never 311 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:55.200 be great, but we're gonna we're gonna have fun, Like we're gonna try 312 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.839 to, you know, be middle of the pack. I mean that may 313 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:00.240 be the reality, but nobody like sets out to do that. And if 314 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.559 you set out to say, hey, we're not going to pay twenty two 315 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.279 million across the board, We're going to pay twelve like you're probably gonna have 316 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:12.960 a tough time doing anything substantial. So this is big. I mean, 317 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.599 I don't claim to know the financial situation at any university, including you know, 318 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:25.000 the local ones. But Eric Crawford earlier today WDRB put together a good 319 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:26.799 article and I haven't got a chance to read the entire thing here actually just 320 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.839 saw it pop up during the break there, but this is from Eric. 321 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.400 He tweeted this out just a little while ago, the twenty million dollar question. 322 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.319 Louisville isn't the only school trying to figure out where the twenty to twenty 323 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.440 two million for player payments is going to come from in the twenty twenty five 324 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.319 to twenty six budget. Louisville a d. Josh hurt because that's this. 325 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.440 Josh talked with Eric, and again I haven't read the whole article, but 326 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.559 as usual, Eric does a great job, and I'm sure it'll be pretty 327 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.000 informative, and I'm sure there's some good quotes in there from herd, including 328 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:56.720 this one, which isn't like a great quote. It's just to me this 329 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.839 kind of puts it in perspective as to what this is going to do to 330 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:03.559 you universities. Quote, we don't have twenty millions sitting around I can promise 331 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:08.480 you that, which I wonder how many fans just assume we or athletes just 332 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.160 to assume, well, you know, they'll figure it out. I mean 333 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:17.680 they probably will. But like, if you're an ad, I mean this, 334 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:22.079 this is probably hell for you. Not because you are somebody that you 335 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.720 know. It's not because you're mad the players are getting paid. But this 336 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.880 just this changes things for you. I mean this, I mean, you 337 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:36.680 now have twenty two million dollars annually you're gonna be expected to pay. I 338 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.039 don't want to stay required because you're have to pay anything. But if you're 339 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.079 not paying anything and you're paying cheaper than everybody else, you're gonna give it 340 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:47.440 you pay for So it's one like, it's one thing. If it's twenty 341 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:52.480 two million dollars one time. This is every year annually you can pay twenty 342 00:22:52.480 --> 00:23:00.920 two million to student athletes. And maybe I'm wrong, but I just have 343 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.759 a hard time thinking that you can as a school, especially again I'm talking 344 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:11.319 power four level, maybe power five if we throw in basketball, because of 345 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.759 course the Biggie certainly counts as the top end of that sport. If you're 346 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:22.000 just out there with a much smaller salary cap all the way around, then 347 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.720 for it to not impact you negatively, I think I would just have to 348 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:27.680 be that, hey, we're not there because we don't have as many sports. 349 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:30.960 We don't like we cut this sport and that sport and this sport. 350 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.440 So therefore we can keep it at you know, we can keep it. 351 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.960 I mean in fact, schools that have a good amount of money that do 352 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.200 that, do you know that aren't hurting for money, but don't have as 353 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.480 many sports. They're the ones who are going to benefit from this in a 354 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.359 major way because if you want, you can mean, there's not as much 355 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:53.000 money to spread around if you don't have that many if you don't have that 356 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:57.880 many sports. And there are some schools let me just give you an example, 357 00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:00.720 and maybe this isn't a good example used because Bellerman is of course brand 358 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:06.920 new to Division one level, but there are some schools that are Division one 359 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:11.960 in like, for example, the Missouri Valley. The Missouri Valley, they 360 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.880 have a football league. I think they have football league. It's a it's 361 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.960 different with the it called something different. No, So it's just it's still 362 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.480 in Missouri Valley, but the schools involved in it aren't the same ones necessarily 363 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:25.240 in basketball, okay, well and in football like a lot of those schools, 364 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:26.680 like Missouri State, although I think they just got bumped up the Division 365 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:32.440 one FBS Missouri State. They're FCS in football, but in basketball, and 366 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:34.680 the Missouri Valley is a mid major league, no doubt about it. But 367 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:38.839 Drake, and you know, crighton left the Missouri Valley by the way, 368 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:44.119 But Drake, who else Illinois State when they're good, Like there's some teams 369 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.920 in the Valley, Whichita was there that they make money. They have like 370 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.000 they have, they have really good attendance. People really care about basketball, 371 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.079 Like the Missouri Valley is a basketball that you saw the n I T sold 372 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.960 out with Indiana State there. I mean again, they're not selling out twenty 373 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:00.200 two thousand like the UMP Center, but like you're not, you know. 374 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.480 So my point is, if you're a basketball player, Let's say Josh Shirts 375 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:08.319 was still there and he came back to Indiana State and this was taking place 376 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.759 next year, and let's say they you know, they snuck in the tournament. 377 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.240 You've got a football team in any of the state, which is FCS, 378 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:19.400 and you've got you know, not twenty two million, because that's just 379 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.720 not realistic for a school like that, but you've got I don't know, 380 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:27.359 ten or maybe less. Wouldn't it just be a foregone conclusion that like football's 381 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:32.640 not gonna get anything close to basketball because it's it's not it's it's it's a 382 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.960 lower level of play. You can't probably say that to your football players, 383 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:38.079 but you know what I mean, like if you are different level as far 384 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:42.079 as D one D two at certain sports, and I know in football they 385 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:44.799 don't do D one D two they do, I mean they do, but 386 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:48.519 it's fcs and fbs, like you know that that's where it gets a little 387 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.359 tricky. I mean to me, it's not. It's actually pretty obvious what 388 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.759 you know, where your priorities are gonna lie. But then again, you 389 00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:57.799 know, you can't really I mean, you can if you want, but 390 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:03.079 it would be viewed as cold heart like sports at big time schools are going 391 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.279 to get cut. It's probably not going to be the most you know, 392 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:08.880 it's probably going to be sports that you maybe didn't even realized that school had 393 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:14.279 a team, but that sucks like that's that's unfortunate, it really is. 394 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.079 And there was a good breakdown and I don't want to nerd out too much 395 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:19.759 on numbers, but now that we're talking about it and see if I can 396 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.119 pull it up here, there is a a good breakdown of what like, 397 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:27.920 what it what each sport caught, the average of each sport, what it 398 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.480 costs a Power five school just to fund it. Because that's one of the 399 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.319 things that you know in life, people don't realize like, hey, wow, 400 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.039 brought in like this much money. Geez, well, did you ever 401 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:44.559 consider how much like it cost to to to to operate right to pay people 402 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.839 like it just because you bring in this much of of you know, a 403 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.519 revenue stream. If you spent more to make it happen, then you lost 404 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.079 money. And you know, there's a lot of people surprisingly in business that 405 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.160 learned that the hard way. They just act, you know, I guess 406 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.160 they just assume at time that it's like, you know, unlimited. Yeah, 407 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.519 here we go. So when it comes to how much does each sport 408 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:11.799 cost? This is from Tony Altimore, who is a strategy and analytic consultant 409 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:22.119 within college athletics. So power that Power five football the average cost for Power 410 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:27.039 five schools forty four million dollars. That's what it costs to run your football 411 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:37.240 program on average. Literally half of that is now twenty two million is now 412 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.160 what some schools will will choose. I mean, theyn't have to, but 413 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:45.759 they're going to choose to pay that to student athletes. I mean, I 414 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.720 feel like, no matter how successful you are, how much money you make, 415 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:55.279 that's not a small thing for anybody. Basketball the average cost twelve point 416 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.279 twenty eight million. So yes, forty four million to run football, twelve 417 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.000 point two eight million to run basketball, and then there's a big drop off. 418 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.160 Women's basketball is five point nine million, men's ice hockey four point nine 419 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.119 to three, which is a little bit skewed because I feel like there are 420 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.440 not nearly as many hockey teams as there are a lot of the other Like 421 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.480 there's I mean, nearly everybody has a women's basketball team. Baseball is four 422 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.400 point six million, and then after that, I would have never guessed it. 423 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.799 In fact, I'm not sure what I would have guessed as far as 424 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:30.160 what comes in as the as the sixth most expensive sport for Power five programs, 425 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:36.480 but I certainly would not have guessed women's equestrian that's three point Yeah, 426 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.839 I mean, I guess horses are expensive. You know, the cheapest sport 427 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.440 rifle that makes sense, lady's guns. Yeah, fencing is also at the 428 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.200 bottom here, so you know. And I'm sure like the ice maintenance is 429 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.920 why ice hockey is up there so much. I'm sure that's not cheap. 430 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.279 Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean there's and again there's they it 431 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.240 called. I mean, I remember when COVID happened. One of the things 432 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.640 that really became a bigger talking point than it ever will and probably should, 433 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:11.799 is what it cost these schools to fund other sports. Like the majority of 434 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:17.160 I mean, look, the vast majority of these college sports don't make money. 435 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.000 They cost a lot of money, and you make so much in football 436 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.119 that it pays for everything else. Now, there are some rare exceptions, 437 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.960 like around here, where the basketball programs around here make money. I mean, 438 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:32.799 they're big money makers and that helps you. So I don't think we'll 439 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:37.039 hear anything soon as far as what decisions are going to be made with sacrifices 440 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.559 are going to be made with this now in place moving forward in twenty twenty 441 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.599 five, But it'll trust me, you'll see the effects of this at some 442 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:51.319 point. All right. So eight years ago today, Muhammad Ali passed away, 443 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.160 which again part of me feels like that was twenty years ago. And 444 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.000 the day he passed away obviously was you know, was a big national store. 445 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:06.079 But I'll always remember the days after he passed and of course the day 446 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:11.680 that they had his funeral, because I don't think we'll ever have anything like 447 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:19.799 that again, meaning where there was that much attention on Louisville and how you 448 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:25.160 know this larger than I mean, Muhammad Ali is the most famous person that's 449 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:26.720 ever come out of Louisville, and I don't think as long as I live, 450 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:32.960 they'll ever be anybody that becomes a more famous person in a bigger figure 451 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:40.240 within the world I mean Muhammad Ali. But he also was as proud as 452 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.519 anybody to be from here, made it quite clear throughout his career, his 453 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:48.240 life, and obviously wanted to have his funeral here. And there were so 454 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.400 many people that you know, were a part of you know, coming to 455 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.240 town, the celebrities here to you know, that had met him and or 456 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.440 become friends with him throughout their life, and it was like a I mean, 457 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.559 it was I could be wrong. It was eight years ago, but 458 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.039 I feel like he was on like every station on the planet the live coverage 459 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.680 of his funeral, and all eyes were on the city, and I feel 460 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.359 like we shine in like a major way and Muhammad Ali. I mean, 461 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.839 I know there's some people that maybe don't agree with some of the things he 462 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.039 stood for long ago, and I don't want to get into any of that. 463 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.279 I'm not telling you that you're crazy for that opinion. You can have 464 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.160 whatever opinion you want. But I think Muhammad Ali's awesome. He's the greatest, 465 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.200 and he has a cool factor to him. And it's timeless. Kids 466 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:33.559 who were you know that probably don't remember. They don't remember anything about his 467 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.240 career because you know, they're like kids who come to visit Louisville. They 468 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.680 don't remember him boxing, they don't remember when he was on top of the 469 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.519 world, but they know who he is, and like they'll go show pictures 470 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.160 of them being taken to his childhood home here in Louisville because it's Muhammed freaking' 471 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.000 Ali. So like not many people who know even a little bit about him. 472 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.599 If you know just a little bit about him, you probably know he's 473 00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:00.839 from Louisville because he he was one as famous as anybody you'll ever see that 474 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.400 that that has come from Louisville, and he wore it proudly. I mean, 475 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.960 it wasn't the only thing he ever talked about, but he he throughout 476 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.839 his like it wasn't just like Louisville claimed him and we let people know, 477 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.599 oh yeah, he's from Louisville. He let everybody know that and a lot 478 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.039 of instance throughout a lot of instances in his life. And uh, I 479 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.559 just remember the live coverage of that and just you know, and this is 480 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.920 this is this is like I don't know how, I don't know how to 481 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.119 preface this, but you know, we live in a very violent city. 482 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.519 I mean a lot of cities our size are dealing with some similar issues. 483 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.279 But like, let's be real, you can't check the news on your phone, 484 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.559 online or the television without there being an updated story of somebody getting killed 485 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.960 and murdered. Like it's crazy, Like it's it's now the norm and it 486 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:45.599 sucks, but that's just the way it is. After he passed away in 487 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:51.240 like four three, four five days, however long it was, we were 488 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:55.799 all kind of like, you know, embracing him and honoring him. Nobody 489 00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.680 got killed like that to me, like, I don't know, that's I 490 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.039 don't Again, I don't want to use the wrong word here, but like 491 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:07.240 that's crazy to me, Like that like that was I don't know. I'll 492 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:08.720 move on because I don't want to, you know, Oh it is crazy 493 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.079 though, I mean it's I don't think about those I don't think it's a 494 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.480 coincidence that that happened. I think people were more so just like you know, 495 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.440 kind of almost like because it was a surreal experience, yeah, and 496 00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.359 carrying them like they were instead of you know, I don't I would never 497 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.880 I will never know what brings someone to live a lifestyle to where they can 498 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.680 kill somebody. But there are people around here. It happens every day. 499 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:30.960 But like maybe that just maybe that wasn't on their mind because they were in 500 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.319 a different place, because they were like again, honoring the life of somebody 501 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.000 who came from Louisville and came from West Louisville and wore it very proudly. 502 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.759 So, yeah, eight years and there were a lot of celebrities that spoke 503 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.400 at at the service, and again it was across the planet on television and 504 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.799 I don't. I'm not kidding you, like across the entire planet, like 505 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.680 everywhere nationally, I mean not just nationally, but all over the world, 506 00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:00.480 and of all people. Former colleague John ramsay, he spoke very close to 507 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.680 Muhammad Ali and he did better than anybody his speech, I mean what he 508 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.039 it was better than Billy Crystal, who was a close friend Will Smith talked. 509 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.119 I mean John Ramsey's was better. And I know some people may not 510 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.199 be big fans of John. I don't know if you are not. I 511 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.400 think he has a lot of fans clearly, But like whatever he when it 512 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.480 comes to that, like that's got to be the coolest thing he's ever done. 513 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:22.880 And he's done a lot of cool things. I mean, he's he's 514 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.840 John Ramsey ramslam. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the 515 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.000 other side, wrap things up. 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All right, So a lot of folks 534 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.960 reacting to this news about the twenty two million dollars salary cap that schools are 535 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:46.559 going to have to figure out and you know, I if you are an 536 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:54.159 athlete that has sacrificed to make it to where you are playing a non revenue 537 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.360 sport at a high level and it's helped you get your education paid for, 538 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:05.159 and that school just decides they're no longer going to have that sport because of 539 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.719 this this change, like that sucks. I would feel I would that would 540 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:15.559 be crushed if that was me. That's sad. However, at the end 541 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.719 of the day, if you simply just no longer have the sports that will 542 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.400 never generate money for you and only cost money, I mean that alone, 543 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.960 the savings there could go a long way for this. I mean, that's 544 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:30.360 that's just I mean, I hope that they don't do that. I hope 545 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.599 they find ways to not cut any sports because again, that would be awful. 546 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:42.039 But I mean I think you'll see that a lot, because that's the 547 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.119 easiest thing to do when it comes to just boom, there we go. 548 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.800 We know we won't, we know we don't and it won't make money and 549 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:53.440 it only costs. Therefore we've I mean, you could cut I mean twenty 550 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.960 two millions a lot, but like you could cut a few sports that you 551 00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:02.280 know just cost your money and will never and that alone can make it to 552 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.840 where instead of twenty two million, you're looking at you know, forty to 553 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:13.519 fifty percent of that. So it sucks. Now how Title nine factors into 554 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:15.360 this, that's a couple there's a couple couple people that have asked that, 555 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.119 and I don't know the answer to that. And what I mean by that 556 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.119 is, like, you know, I think we all know what Title nine 557 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.280 is, but if you just were to get I mean you can't. I 558 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.760 wouldn't think you'd be able to just get rid of the women's sports, or 559 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.880 just the men's for that matter. But yeah, we don't have a lot 560 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.079 of answers as far as what this looks like down the line, as far 561 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.679 as what decisions each school are going to make, only time will tell. 562 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.400 But this is, honestly, I think the biggest thing that has happened in 563 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.840 recent years that is going to change college athletics in a major way. And 564 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.039 look, let's be real, it's already changed in a major way with NIL 565 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.679 and the portal, but this will just make it to where I mean, 566 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.360 fundamentally, it's just not what it once was. I think it could still 567 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.119 be great. I'm gonna still love it because I don't know how not to. 568 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.280 But it'll be different, no doubt. Are you guys Enjoy your evening. 569 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:00.239 We're back at it tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven Indi