Made us have pace, sunny sune on, I haveasione n Hey, everybody,
welcome to you for crying out loud. It's me stuck me a little
strange voice, but for the best reason. I'm here with my one of
my besties and somebody that is a absolute audience favorite Julie Kaysam, well,
thank you, I thought you were going to say, and someone who is
a diehard f cooler, which I totally am, even though I know you
haven't talked to you all the time. That's crazy. Literally listen every week
and then Wednesdays when the Patreon comes out, I can't wait till seven am
because that's when it, at least on the West Coast, it comes out
at seven am. And I've been meaning to ask you if you could just
like set it so it comes out at like twelve am, yeah or whatever.
I think that it's just for everybody on all over the you know country.
It can just right when they wake up because maybe they go to the
gym early or what. I don't know. Last week's actually, for the
first time, I said it for three am because I wanted them at the
East coast. But I'll do it. I'll do it. Midnight and so
what I'm looking I'm looking out for our patreon folks over here that like the
first thing in the morning. Let me ask you this, Julie Casem When
you listen to Patreon, aren't you always like, yeah, I know this
story already, it's funny because well, actually probably not if it's Lynette.
If definitely if it's not Lynette. And then with you sometimes yes and sometimes
because we we used to talk all the time when I wasn't working, and
now that I'm working, we're kind of hit or miss You'll call, I'll
miss it. I'll call, you won't answer. We're busy, so like
I don't hear all the stories. Actually, so it kind of works out.
Yeah, or again I get to text you and be like, who's
Lina talking about? Who are you telling? You know? So I get
the insides right, that is that is true? That is true? Uh,
which you know what's annoying is that the last Patreon we did, so
I I have a little update. Well you know what, I'll save that
for. I'll save that for Patreon. The update. Oh but yeah,
but people were trying to guess in the patri in the patreton, the patreon
ap people were trying to guess, and I was like, no, that
defeats the purpose. Like she was so paranoid that even our Patreon listeners would
know who she's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah and say something.
But anyway, So I was deleting comments on Patreon, oh, because people
were guessing the right one. They tend to guess when they don't know,
and normally it's okay, like it's fun, but this particular instance is like
no, no, no, stop, stop stop. Oh my god,
somebody figured out the one where and you know who it is? I think
the comedian. I had no idea. And then I was reading all the
comments and I was like, oh, okay, because Giovanni completely figured out
who we were talking about and then wrote a whole thing. And at that
point I was like, wow, whatever, Yeah, if he finds out,
I mean, I don't know, we're not we're not friends. Yeah,
it's fine, it's well my kidding. Let's say hi. Do you
speaking of people that listen all the time, let's say hi to some of
those people. Now, look, one of you guys is new to my
list, and you're not going to hear your name today because I'm going off
of an old list because I forgot to. I thought it doesn't really matter
who cares. Who cares. But if you don't hear your name, know
that we have it and you'll hear it next week. But Alicia Askalante,
she's your from the city of elm from the city of Almonte. Kelly Brandt,
she's your aunt. Rebecca a little binn you shown fosh prey, Oh
Hotti, Missy and Gabby they're I think they're with Lynette that king, Yeah
they are. But what about Amy? What she Oh? Amy? She's
a sweet girl. I guess she's sweet. She's a sweet lady. H
And Katie Murphy is rolling on e not Anna Faris Aaron land Ho Nikki call
your girl. Leslie is a costing people and coughing. Still she's in that
new round of COVID Athena. We love your dancing, Elizabeth Williamson hot im.
Elizabeth is going through a lot this week, and love you girl.
We're here for you. Rita is still rocking her kids in the Basinette,
even though they're much older now. Jacob is Growley. Valerie hit said out
of the park, Polly, we love your pancakes. Katerina seriously, just
had some demo work done and because you didn't listen to me. And that's
that. Oh Kelly, Lottie, Dad, do you want to hurs?
She bar share Bear, Ashley so chic? I think we said that.
Let oh we got that one. Sarah Stefano, she's our Paisano. Aaron
is a dirty Sanchez. Jennifer, get up, Sandra, it's not easy
being green. Christa, you make me want a droop. And Stephanie stinker
wrinker Yeah, yay boom. All right, I gotta tell you something.
Tell me. The day you are listening to this, which is tomorrow for
us, is my husband's sixtieth birthday. My god, sixty yeah, sixty.
It doesn't look a day over fifty nine. I mean, he looks
so good. How dare you on his behalf? So okay, can we
just talk about men's birthdays? Yes? Please? Because, by the way,
my husband's turning fifty this year. So I was talking to you,
okay, So I was racking my brain for what am I going to do
for my husband because he doesn't want to party, He doesn't even want people
coming over. He doesn't want to acknowledge that he's going to be sixty.
He's feeling upset about it. Right, he hates many many years ago when
we'd been together. I mean we've been together for a while, maybe like
two years. Yeah, I fum a surprise party. Okay, so it
must have been. I don't remember what birthday it was for, but it
was anyway, But I fewm a surprise party. And I didn't know that
he hates surprise anything. He's got really bad social anxiety. I knew he
had social anxiety already. I knew this, but I didn't think. But
in my mind, see, sometimes we do things for other people that we
would like done for ourselves, right, And I'd once had a surprise party
and it was so fun like it was really I was truly surprised, that
feeling of walking into a place. It was my friend Bonnie McFarlane and my
friend Lisa had thrown up for me. And I mean, just to go
back, because I want to know, if you've ever had a surprise party.
No I have not. Okay, Well, this was like truly a
surprise. That's cool when it's truly your like completely thrown off taking a clue,
that's the best no idea. And at the time Bonnie was kind of
a newer friend to me, so I wasn't and Bonnie and I were writing
a script together. So we're at my apartment in Santa Monica. She's over
I'm wearing like literally like no no makeup, and you know, in your
twenties that's the thing, like you don't go you don't go out to bars
with no makeup on. But I was like, we're literally hanging out.
I think I'm wearing sweats or overalls. At the time I was putting in
to my overalls, I had these railroad like railroad engineered yep, you know
the ones with the pintries. Yeah, osh koshash overall. I only know
this because I remember from photographs now. But so, so I'm with my
friend, it's kind of and she's like, let's let's like take a break
from writing and like, let's go get a drink. And she wanted to
go to this the Coronet Room, which is on Losiana Go, which is
real far from where we were. So I'm like, well, a,
no, like I don't feel like going out, I'm tired, and b
if we were going to go get a drink, why would we go all
the way to that place? That's pretty far. So she just sprung it
on you, like so casually, like, hey, let's go out tonight,
even though she's got this whole thing planned. She and my our other
friend had planned it, yes, and everybody taking ricks because usually you'll be
like, oh, on Saturday, can we let's just go grab some dinner.
So at least you have a few days lead up, you know that
the plan is in place. Correct to just do it like a couple hours
prior and be like, hey, you want to head over to this bar?
What if you were like, no, we were in our twenties,
we weren't moms, we weren't like organizational. And she told me later that
she was starting to freak out. She wasn't going according to right. I
think in her mind we were pretty happy, go lucky, like we didn't
have kids, a coup I don't have. In her mind it was like,
why wouldn't she want to like go grab a drink. It's like,
what are we doing? You know, And normally I think I would I
think I normally would have. So it was surprising to her that I was
like, absolutely not, I really don't feel like it. So then she
started to be so then I think she got a phone call. I don't.
I don't feel like we even had cell phones in those days, so
I'm trying to remember how down. Maybe she got a call on the landline
or she pretended. I don't remember what it was, but the point is
she was she was getting kind of more desperate, and I swear to god,
I had no idea. But she tells me that if I really at
that point, if I hadn't said okay, she was just gonna have to
tell me because oh, she was getting calls somehow from our other friend that
was like dude, what the fuck? Like people are here phones back then
or something. I maybe there was a page, I don't remember. The
point is, finally I was like, all right, all right, if
you're really not, because she's like, I just can't, I can't write,
Like I just I have to go take a break, and like yeah,
So I said, okay, okay, okay, okay. So we
get there and I walk in and I do remember very specifically seeing somebody that
I knew that was a friend of mine and thinking, oh my god,
like, what's it was? My friend Mike Maddox. I was like,
what's mag Maddics doing? Here and I got hi, and he's like hi,
and then I as I'm kind of looking around, there's like people have
balloons, and I swear to God, though, I was like, so
when was your actual birthday? Probably like a week later or something or maybe
yeah, maybe like in the next couple days. Yeah, so but I
still it's I was so surprised and shocked that I was like, I still
it took my brain a bit to register, so I was like, what
is he doing here? And then finally somebody else because they didn't yell surprise.
It was just all my friends were at this bar, and then they
started and then happy Birthday, And I was like, how do you know?
It was my birthday? And then I start seeing that everybody there is
somebody I know, and I was like, oh my god. I was
so surprised. I was very happy. I was very flattered. So what
did I want to do for John? I wanted to give him that feeling?
Of course, little did I know that's a terrible feeling for him,
right, like so uncomfortable. Yeah, he well, but you he was
only two years in, so you probably didn't fully know the extension. Maybe
less than that, maybe it was like a year. Maybe I had we've
been together like a year and a half. I don't. Somehow I already
was friends with his friends. Yeah, maybe it was two years. But
I called every single one of his friends. I had them meet me at
the hotel. It's one of the hotels on the beach, Casa del Mar,
because it's a nice hotel on the beach, a fancy hotel. And
I had everybody just meet in like the lobby, at the lobby, but
there's a big open lounge, yeah, lounge restaurant. Yeah. So I
had all of this, you know, and we were like early thirty.
Yeah, so I was it was we hadn't been together that long anyway,
John, we took him out. We went with my his best friend and
his best friend's wife, so they are our best couple friends. Yeah,
and then we so he thought he was going down for his birth He thought
he was just going out for his birthday, just with our other couple friend.
So we took him out. We went to sushi and he got a
little bit drunk, and then we were like, let's go for an drink.
Let's go have a drink, and he was like okay, you know,
so we walk into the bar area to, you know, we tell
him let's go to the Casa del Mar's. It was walking distance too,
so he was like, okay, so we anyway, we walk in there,
and he had a similar experience, except for much worse for him because
he walks in and I thought, my a close friend of his, I
thought gave away the surprise. He's in there. He's got like a gift
in his hand. He sees John, but we haven't gotten to the area
where everybody's gonna say surprise. So he's just walking like he'd gotten it about
or he just walked in, and John had no He was just like,
oh, hey, Keith, what are you doing here? And Keith is
like, hey, buddy, you know, just like a oh, I'm
here meeting some friends or whatever. And John goes, oh, okay,
we're having a drink, you know. Anyway, then we walk over to
the area and then everybody goes surprise. And John's face was so stunned,
and not in a good way, like it was very he was very shocked.
He got kind of pale. He like didn't know what to do.
And then I think he take him a minute to warm up. He warmed
up. I think he was very flattered, as I had been. But
but for him, there was like this after effect where he got very anxious
about like how did I act? Did I pay attention to people? Did
I seem gracious enough? Like? Who was there? Did I you know
what I mean? Overthinking the entire thought everything basically told me, please don't
ever do that. Please don't ever do that again. That was the biggest
nightmare, like it still reverberates his soul. I really fucked up little,
did you know? So bringing it back to this milestone birthday, Yeah,
I've only been with him for two big fortieth. That must have been for
his fortieth wow, yeah, fortieth, fiftieth and now sixtieth. Yeah,
although no, I don't think it was because well, wait, have you
guys, Helen been together for thirty years? We've been married twenty years now,
and we were already together four years, so we've been together twenty four
years. Okay, Okay, So anyway, the point is, I was
like, what am I gonna do for his birthday? Because it's really hard
to shop for him. There's not like things that he wants all I know.
It's so hard to like buy stuff for spouses or boyfriends it's like,
especially at this age, you kind of can just buy whatever you want,
right Yea, so I said to you. And also i'd post I procrastinated
too long to be able to like order him some fun stuff that you see
online right now. I was like, oh, there's a hoodie with with
people. I could have people put on a hoodie, you know. But
you see that stuff and you're like, well, I have four days.
So I called you. Yeah, this is all coming back to Julie Case.
I called you and I was like, girl, what am I going
to do for John's birthday? And do you remember what you said? Yeah?
I was like, get him an experience, yeah, and get him
a gift to take him to a answer something right. And I was like,
that's a really good idea. So then I had the idea of like,
he likes the comedian Taylor Tomlinson. And I knew that coming up in
Netflix. Netflix is a joke. Yeah, for the series, I knew
there was this. There was going to be Taylor Tomlinson with Michelle Buteau,
Sarah Silverman and somebody else Nikki Glazer maybe oh wow, And I was like,
oh, maybe he I know, he likes Taylor Tomlinson, maybe I
could get tickets to that. So I looked at the tickets and they were
a Thursday night, which I work on Thursday night. So I'm like,
well, I wouldn't be able to go, but I guess I could.
Maybe I could buy him tickets with the kids. So then I don't know
how I thought of it, but I was like, well, who but
he doesn't even really that's not I was like, who's his favorite comedian?
And I was like, well, John Mullaney. Yeah, So I look
up John Mulaney and he's freaking like Hollywood Bowl on May four? What are
the chances that it's so random? And I was already come through here a
few times. So then I look and I see that there are tickets available,
and then I called the kids in. I was like, hey,
guys, blah blah blah, what do you think about getting him tickets to
this? And they're like, yes, he would love it. So then
I'm like, Taylor Tomlinson or John Malaney and they were like, oh,
John Mullaney one hundred percent Taylor is They did. But here's the funny thing,
Xander had. John had just made Xander watch a Taylor Tomlinson Special and
I was working at the time, and he said that John said, eh,
her new specials like not that great? Okay, it was okay,
yeah, so I was like, okay, per So then I call LB
and she was like, yes, that sounds great. We're all in town.
So I bought the tickets. So we're going to surprise him with the
with the tickets, and I think it'll be very special to him because he
loves stuff like that the whole you know, he's very sentimental. Do I
love that the kids are old enough now that you can go do that.
You know, it's a whole different world with what we can do with our
kids now. It's so fun. Yeah, so what are you planning for
you? Wait, wait, one more thing. Okay, so what are
you doing the day tomorrow, the day of his birthday? Guys gonna go
to the day? Are you working? I am? But so we were
thinking of going out, okay, on like the weekend, which would have
just passed. But then I was thinking, you know when you go out
on the weekend and then the actual birthday comes such a dud, Yes,
totally, Like that sucks. Then you're like, well, we already celebrated
your birthdays. You're trying to like have a good attitude the day of,
and I totally get that. You're like, I'm gonna go to Coffee Bean
and get you a coffee. Oh, you stay in bed, I'll walk
penal Bee right. Which it's like I watch every Way exactly, So it's
just not it doesn't hit. It doesn't hit the same as when you actually
have something planned. I know. Agree. So I said, hey,
even though I teach, I teach my writing class on Tuesday nights, but
it only goes it's like from five to six forty five, and the kids
have a later start at school on Wednesday. Anyway, So I was like,
do you want to just do your birthday on your actual birthday? And
we can go to dinner as soon as I'm done with you know, we
could go to dinner like seven, are you guys going to Benny Hannah No
favorite, Stomping my favorite. We're just gonna go for sushi perfect, and
then Sadie's going to bake him the cake and then we'll give him his we'll
give him his gift perfect so special. I think it'll be really happy because
it'll be a gift he likes it's still going to be low key. Yes,
no special guests, not going to appearances. No, nobody came to
our house and making him go. Because this is John. If I want
to have people over, he's gonna be like, but our front lawn looks
terrible, like our landscaping. I'm like, no, he's gonna care,
but you have to have our kitchen redone. I'm like, I know,
but so we're gonna have friends over in like ten years, That's what I'm
saying. We never, as you know, we never ever Undertanze, yes,
because John's like, there's nowhere for people to be. We don't have
a backyard, and I'm always like, all right, well I'm just gonna
have to keep waiting for those invites. Anyway, what are you gonna do?
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lay it on me. Okay, So for Jamil's fortieth you'll remember this,
Stephanie, I think you will. So at the time, so he's
forty nine now, but at the time, he was playing soccer every Sunday
morning. Yeah, so he'd leave the house whatever, get back at like
eleven, let's say. So I was like, that is really the only
time we can have a surprise party. Is so random. But at the
time, our kids were a lot younger. Bella would have been nine,
Sophie would have been five, and your kids were like around this literally the
same age. Yeah, And so I was like, okay, let's make
it like a whole kashaw as Lynette would say, and have we have a
very big backyard, so let's have like a water slide and pool party and
cater like I think we had Mexican catering and a margarita machine and let's just
make it for kids and adults. Everybody come. So that's what we did.
So I was like, okay, So I planned this entire thing,
I mean to this day, he says he was surprised. I don't know,
because I had to like have all the tables delivered, the margarita machine
delivered a day before while he was at work two days before on a Friday.
So and then I just shoved it all in the garage, you know.
So then the morning of he leaves for soccer and then I pull everything
out set up really quickly, which I did, but I'm still I don't
know. And so we had a ton of people, and do you remember
that there were You're acting like you weren't there. Were you not there?
You know? I have the worst memory. I probably was there like you.
Yeah, I gotta now, we gotta go revisit the pictures and see
if there's photo of it. It was because that was like there would have
been elementary school moms exactly like you. Laura Helena was there, I know
for sure, like I got a look or maybe you were busy that day
for some weird reason. I don't know. I'm sure I wouldn't have been
too busy to come, right, but anyway, go on. So then
so what we did is we all gathered in the front and then he walked
in the door and everybody's like surprise. I do remember that. I do
remember having to like get ready to say surprise. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then we had like a huge soccer cake because he's such a soccer
yes, yes, fan, yes, anyway, so that was so fun.
And then everybody just you know, partied around the pool the rest of
the day. So that was fun. Say, he enjoyed that. He
loved it. And I even asked him the other day because his birthday's coming
up, and I'm like, no, like, be honest, were you
really surprised, Like we're past it now you can tell me. He's like,
no, no, I was surprised. He's like he said, I
saw something I can't remember if he saw someone walking outside he goes, So
I kind of was like, what's going on here? So he's like I
kind of had some idea like what and then, But but other than that,
he didn't know it would be that many people right right right, And
I had like some of his old frap buddies come like like Jim, yes,
exactly, everybody from work to his old FRAP bros to like our new
friends that we met flown in. I want to say Jim flew in.
Yeah, that's best friend like his brother. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,
yeah, and then Jim proceeded to get blasted and then every time,
So this is Jamille's best friend and he's like a brother to him. And
but whenever Jim drinks, he wants to wrestle your meals, which meels like,
dude, I'm too old for this. Like they're just looking a nice
time, throw down some beers and just chill. And then there's chill,
like tackling him on the grass. You're just like, all right, let's
do this. That's so funny. I feel like he brought his son with
him dad divorce, Yeah exactly. He brought was like sleeping in the other
room for a while. Yep, he was little, yeah exactly. Yeah,
so that was super fun. So now he's turning fifty and I feel
like the pressure's on. But I kind of feel like I'm I may be
getting away with something here because we have been building a house in Lebanon for
the last I don't even know how many years. It's finally finished. So
we're all going to Lebanon, oh okay, in June and taking his mom
to go see the house and the whole thing. So I feel like I
feel like for him, that's like his big fiftieth of like going to Lebanon.
I put my heart and soul into this house. Like to me,
to him, that's like a big culmination of like fifty years of like,
Wow, look what I've worked towards, Look what I've done, and now
we have to go back and enjoy it. So his birthday is July twenty
second. Oh so you girl, that's far away. I can't get away
with that being the fiftieth. Yeah, no you can. No. I
think I was gonna say, you can. I thought his birthday was like
soon. No no, no, no, no, no, can't really
be like, well, we're gonna be something. We're gonna be birthday.
The other thing we are doing, I believe is one of my besties,
Andrea Stephanie knows her well. Her parents have a gorgeous home on a private
lake in Idaho. Basically there's like I don't even know, maybe ten homes
on this lake and they have every single toy you could think of, ATVs
and skiing. We're gonna ski, We're gonna tube, we're gonna roast marshmallows,
We're gonna a TV We're gonna do all of it. And his birthday's
July twenty second. We leave July twenty third to go to Idaho for that,
So that's also kind of like going to Idaho, will celebrate his birthday
there, So like those, but there's nothing like specifically that I've planned per
se. That's hey, Jameial, this is just for you your fiftieth birthday.
I mean, what I would love to do is plan for him and
his buddies to go to Europe and do some sort of like historical like trip
through Europe following Napoleon's march or I don't know something. He's a total history
buff. Yeah, but he's like not a nerd. He's a total nerd.
He's like he's like John, where he knows a lot about a lot
of things. You know, I know very little about very few things.
I just don't. I don't know a lot I James don't, and I
don't even pretend. And Jamil is kind of like John in the way that
like loves to be asked shit like yes, go, like what can you
kind of explain to me, like what's going on in the Middle East?
He'll be like all right, have a scene like, for instance, he's
been dying to watch Showgun. I don't know if John's been into this,
yes, And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna be the
good wife. We're gonna do this. We're gonna sit down and watch Showgun.
And I was like, what the fuck? What is happening? Who
are these people? I knew nothing. He's like, well, you got
to kind of know the history. So we're pausing and we're going through the
history of it, and I was like, still don't get it. So
I tapped out after like thirty minutes in episode one. I'm like, honey,
like, it's not gonna be fun for you because I'm gonna be asking
so many questions, right, but that is fun for them. Unfortunately,
Unfortunately, they can't wait for an excuse. They're like they sense. They're
like, I feel like, you don't understand what's going on. Literally,
no no, no, no, no no no, you don't have to
pause it. I'll catch up and they're like no no, no, no,
no no no no no, let me pause it. Let me tell
you. And then it's like, okay, let's go back one hundred years
before this took place. Literally We're never literally through this, so now I
feel bad. But what we do is he comes home, we have dinner,
we hang out, and then we're like and break. I go in
the room and I watched it down to Abbey and he stays out and watch
his Showgun and I could not be happier toill me fine with that. We
just got done. We're way behind on every show, but we just got
done binge watching together Homeland, which was I just loved it. He kind
of, I don't know, by the by by season five he was like,
Okay, I get it, like I'm good, and I'm like,
no, it's just getting good. So we kind of were watching it together.
So I feel like we did the together thing and we've been bonded over
that and now we're kind of doing our own thing right, which works out
well. So anyway, I don't know how we got onto this topic.
Oh, we were just talking about him being a nerd. A nerd yeah
that he would like to go see like Napoleon shit, Yeah, exact is
a World War two nerd. As you know, Yes, he just wants
everything. He made the kids watch Masters of Air, which was a recent
thing that was on you know, Apple it's on Apple. It's by the
same people that did Band of Brothers. And yes, okay, Jamil would
love that. Oh yeah, yeah. That was after Saving Private Ryan came
out and then they did Band of Brothers, which is a great show.
Oh yeah. And then they did The Pacific which was all right. And
then I tried to watch Masters of Air but I wasn't really into it.
Is it about like the pilots? Pilot, Oh, Jamille would love that.
He knows every single plane. He can tell you like, this is
a B two bomber, it was used in this war. This that that
he knows all of that. Jail was going to go into the Air Force.
Oh my god, yes he went. He took the test as a
senior in high school. He wanted to go into the Air Force. He
was like, that is what I want to do. And he took some
tests that you take to like then to see what your you know, intelligence
level is to then do something I don't know, and he like was talking
all the guys and then was it the Iraq War back then that happened and
Shamil's like, oh wait, but I don't know that I want to be
like bombing my people. You know. I mean he's not obviously he's not
Iraqi, but you know what I'm saying, like going over the Middle East
and he's like, oh, this is going to get uncomfortable, and I
you know, there was a lot there, and then his parents are like,
please don't do that, like just go be a doctor and let's just
be cool with that. So yes, So he is very knowledgeable about any
airplane that was used in any war at any time. He will tell you.
So John's father fought in World War Two and was in the Air Force
and flew one of those planes. I'm going to say B seventeen and now
I can't remember the name of the plane. John would be so upset right
now. He's obsessed with his dad's history. And well, what happened is
what happened is that the mission he had to fly, all these they had
to fly like twenty five missions before they could be released after they finished their
and somehow with him, I think they had to fly some extra missions.
As soon as they were done. A new flight crew, you know,
with a bombadier and the pilot and they a new team went in on that
plane and I think on their second mission they all died. Oh, god.
Yeah. Wow, So he made it through. I mean it could
have very easily not. I mean it was crazy. But at one point
the bomber on his plane, like they got hit, I believe, and
there they lost the bomb bombadier on his plane Like he's been through it,
Wow, John, I mean no, I'm just talking about it, just
talking about No. I mean his dad really went through it, and and
he his dad didn't really talk to him much about that stuff. And I
think there's like a thing with him where to feel closer to his dad.
I think he's always been really interested in everything surrounding the planes and the history
and the stories, and he knows everything about it. Oh my god,
Okay I can't. So we talked about that hours they could do. Yeah,
that's so funny. That's wild. Yeah, I love I love Jamille
and Jamille. Let me let me say something about Jamil. He is so
he's he's like he can be a little Noah Ali right, and then but
then if you if you sort of push back a little bit, he will
soften you. Guys. You guys have an interesting relationship in that way because
Stephanie, you like to be not right, to challenge, you like to
challenge, that's what it is. And he likes to challenge. So if
you say something, he's going to challenge it. If he says something,
you're going to challenge it, right, which I like to see you guys
kind of like talk about stuff. It's good, but it's on the side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But sometimes I just want
to know what he knows about stuff. But sometimes his stuff that he gets
challenging about will be like just opinion. Like he'll be like, Okay,
you've got to try this tea and then I'm like, he's like, it's
really good. It's like from you know, it's from my people or whatever.
Then I'll try the tea and I'm like, you know, this is
discussing. It tastes like dirt, and he'll he'll go like, what are
you talking about? It's delicious. The nutrientsisness coming from the mother lamb.
It doesn't have any preserves. Not that he's a health nut because it's not,
but like he will find an argument as to why you should like this
tea. Right, yes. But the one thing that we but it heads
on, like early in our relationship was he had decided when your kids were
very little, you know, where I'm going with this the Kuman. Yes,
So Julie's kids were babies, like, uh like Sophie must have been
one and Bell was four or something. Yeah, yeah, and Jamil was
like, Okay, we are gonna get them. You do a better jamial
voice than I do, but you you tell me Jamil's what he does.
Was like listen. So we got to get him into Kuman. Like,
I'm not kidding when I tell you Bell it was four because she was in
preschool. And I was like, so does everybody know what Kuman is.
It's like it's it's a it's like a it's not totatoring, it's it's like
your kids are gonna be geniuses. We're gonna we're gonna train them up.
They're gonna already be ready. Yeah, we're gonna start them early. Get
in. You're gonna they're gonna blow everybody away with their math skills and they're
reading comprehension skills. Yes, because you're coming here every week and we're just
gonna like work on it. And Jimmil is very very big on education,
yes, and his whole family is, and I mean but pressure. Yeah.
So anyway, so then we uh so so he really wanted them to
get into Kuman. I was like, all right, I mean fine,
it can't hurt this and that. Okay. Bella, who was four at
the time, is the sweetest kid, Like she's a great She's a great
child to have because she's just kind, she's people pleasy, like she's like
she's up for anything. She's literally like I remember when she was like five,
I'd be like, we're going to do this, and then oh,
we can't go. She'd be like, all right, what are we gonna
do, like kind of like an lbie, like let's just make the best
of everything whatever situation put me, and we're gonna have fun. She's the
best. Yeah, it's Elbe's the same way. So as a parent,
it was easy, right, Like she never really complained about anything except I
swear to God this is the truth. We're in Encino and I'm holding her
and we're walking up the stairs to go to Kuman and she bit me,
which never in her life has she been a child or done anything meat like
this is just not in her DNA And I was like, my god,
it four years old. She knew like, bro, this is where I
don't know where you're taking me, but I don't want to go here.
Mom's not really on board. Dad, so like but she literally and I
was like, what Bella. So we walk into Kuman and I'm holding her
and but can I just interject that prior to this, just to prior to
this, you were talking about it and you were saying, Jimmil is making
us go and I had an argument with him. Yeah. Yeah. We
had a birthday party. I believe it was your kid's birthday party. I
think it was Laura. I feel like, OK, well, I was
like JIMMYO, because this is me. Yeah, I was kind of being
funny. Yeah, but I was like JIMMYO, Julie tells me you want
to put the kids in Kuman, Like stop, what are you thinking about?
And he was like, wow, it's going to be really good.
Like I think it's important for them to get a head start, like they
don't need Kuman. They're too young, yes, Like they're too young and
he was like, no, they're not. And we had a thing where
I was like, Julie, Jimial's being ridiculous and You're like, I know,
but what are you gonna do? So that's which brings us to so
We would literally walk into Kuman and the woman is in there and I'm like,
yeah, we just wanted to get some information and you know, get
her started. And she's like how old is she? I go she's four,
and she goes, no, even I mean, she didn't even want
to sell her own product. She was like, no, no, no,
she needs to go play. She's four. She's not even writing yet.
Like, they can't even start Kuman until they can at least hold a
pencil and write. They need to know the alphabet lady. And I was
like, okay, this makes sense. So she was like, oh,
okay, all right, So then we left, but we ended up we
did end up doing Kuman with them later for math, but that literally lasted
maybe three months, and we were like, this is so ridiculous because the
math that they do is they're not teaching math so much. Start giving you
worksheet after worksheet after worksheet, so you just do repetition, repetition, repetition,
moving on to the next level worksheet, worksheet, worksheet. Okay,
now you've got that down. And I was like, this is why what
are we doing? So then we stopped. But yeah that was really funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that literally. Bella and I talk about
it to this day. We're like, those are the stairs that you bit
me? Like, I don't know how you knew what Kuman was, but
you knew even at four and you were like no, So anyway, so
that was really funny. I know, all right, let's take a quick
break and we'll come right back. Yeah, and Bella probably, I'm sure
that Jamil had to wrap his mind around the fact that Bella is not like,
she's not trying to be a doctor, no, like she from a
young age was like I just want to sing and dance act. Yes,
he was like, what is happening? Yeah, I mean, yes he
was. But he himself is an artist too, so he has that artistic
side, and he was like, if I could have just fall, you
know, done art, I would have been probably like an animator or something
like that. So he understands that side of it. He just didn't have
that option. You know, his family they immigrated here and they just had
to kind of go into something that was going to provide them with a stable
income. So you know, his brother and sister are engineers and he's a
physician, so he had these two just a physician by the way. He's
the head of adult cardiac cardiac health. He's a adult congenital heart disease.
Yes, so thank you for that same here. I know a little bit
about a little bit about a medical schools yea, yeah, like that.
I call it something a little bit different. You say tomato, I say
tomato. But whatever, heartshit anyhow. Yeah. Yeah, he has a
very big important job and he helps a lot of people, and he goes
around the world, not just the country. He goes around the world and
teaches about new like technology in the heart. Yeah, he teaches. He
So he's an interventionalist, so he teaches other interventionalists in the country and in
the world how to implant certain devices and things like that. So he writes
textbooks, he does. He's a nerd, like we said. Then,
on the weekends, he likes to play Warhammer, Yes he does, for
any for any of you that know what Warhammer is, if you know,
you know, And he travels all over the country to go to Warhammer tournaments
and he takes it very seriously. You know, he has fun with it
too. He'll send me videos of the people that are there and he's like,
babe, okay, and he'll just like pan and I'm like, oh,
way, these basically men that live in their mom's basement who we're dealing
with, right, But there's a great community. Honestly, these people are
very bright, they're very intelligent, they're very creative, they're really good at
what they do, and he loves just being around that environment. So now
this is very Dungeons and Dragons adjacent, right, Yes, it is,
it is, and it isn't. I mean, I'm sure Warhammer people would
say no, but by the way, that's right. Yeah, Dungeons and
Dragons you kind of sit around a table and you know, you do your
your stories or whatever, and you make your own characters. But it's all
just kind of made a Warhammer. There are these little figurines that you buy
them, you paint them, you build an army with them, and then
oh, Jamil paints the fuck out of them, out of them sing you
know what he said. He said during the pandemic, He's like, you
know what's what's not going to change and you know what's not going to be
unstable are my miniatures. It's like they're there for me no matter what.
It's like, they don't give me shit, they don't have diseases. I
can go to them every night and just paint them. So he does.
He paints all of his own figures. In fact, he was just at
a competition last weekend and he won best Painted Army. So yeah, wow,
you know, yay, Yeah, you should be very excited too,
because speaking of nerdy TV shows, there's one that Henry Cavell. Oh yeah,
Henry Cavill is a big war and he was this guy called the Witcher,
which is a big thing. He's a big nerd too, and he's
helming the Warhammer TV show as like a major fan and he's going to be
the front of it and he's putting like all his energy into It's gonna be
awesome. It's gonna be awesome. And by the way, during the pandemic,
we were like, okay, Jamille's like we need to buy stock in
Games Workshop, which is the umbrella of Warhammer. Okay, and I was
like, honey, because it's not cheap because you have to buy all these
armies and then you buy more because they're switching things up. It's not a
cheap, you know, game to play. And I'm like, nobody has
money right now. During the pandemic, nobody's going to be buying this stuff.
He's like, trust me, and we bought stock and it almost doubled
within like the like a couple of hours. Yeah, why did you say
something? Staff? Well, insider, what the hell next time? If
you have a tip like that, you got to share the way I know,
I'll just struggling here over here, NERD alert, NERD alert. So
so anyway, Yeah, so that's what he does in his free time,
which is great. There's he's not going to strip clubs, he's not playing
golf for eight hours a day. He's just like sitting around painting miniatures.
Right, Can I write? I sort of, But I feel like we
don't have time in this episode. But I feel like in the next episode,
have you ever told the story of like how you guys met and how
you broke up? Probably like years ago. I don't know, we can
tell that. That's a good story. Oh, thank you. Yeah,
but I also want to give a little heads up about what we're going to
be talking about on Patreon, making you tell us so our kids through the
years, yes, have had should I say how should I say this?
Like ups and downs with their friendships? Yeah? Not with each other?
No, Bella and LB have had a very stable relationship. Yea, honestly
from day one. For those of you who are new to our show or
don't remember this, Julie and I met at the park when our kids were
like eighteen months old. They had they definitely weren't two. We started going
to the same park and we started to talking and we realized like we got
along and we were both bored and had our one kid. And then Julie
was like, hey, does elbe like Dora? And I was like,
well, of course, yeah. So she was like having a birthday party
for Bella for she's turning too. Do you want to come? And I
was like okay, So I came to the party and Albie hid in a
corner the whole time because she had undiagnosed anxiety and was petrified. And Dora
had one of those big ass heads. It wasn't like just a Dora a
girl. It was like a girl with this big head, giant Dora head.
Yeah, with the hair, and so I feel you, Alb yeah
yeah, but Elbie wanted nothing to do with it. But I was like,
act right, we're out of like a party, we're meeting, you
know, at that time, I was pretty starved for new friends. So
you know, anyway, we bonded and we I think the girls have celebrated
their birthdays like almost yes, every year ever since we became friends. Then
we brought my other friend Lara into the mix because Lara was like Lara was
paranoid and felt like I was going to leave her for new mom friends.
You know, we get it. We're all friends that have pools. I
mean, yes, she could not offer the pool, so she was a
little insecure about that. Well I don't I didn't even know that Casey Kyson
was your dad, which not that that would mean so much to everybody,
but of course I'm a seventies kid, so you know, eighties kid.
But I didn't even know that at the time. But then when I found
out, I think I did tell her like, oh, you know,
she's Kasey Kyson's daughter. And that's when Lara was like, oh, great,
so you're just moving on up in the world social climbing mom friends.
Oh now she oh. And then so the next one I met another woman
at like a Jimberree or my gym, and she and this mom said she
was like very lonely, kind of had some postpartum and she was like,
oh, you know, I have a pool. You could come over to
my pool and invite your invite some other moms. So I was going to
invite you and Lara. I go to tell Lara and she was like,
wow, oh okay, So first it's Kasey Kayson's daughter. Now it's somebody
with a pool, because you didn't have a pool at that time. And
the funny thing is, even though Laura it sounds like she might have been
kidding, deep down, she was not kidding, not kidding, No,
not kidding at all. She'll tell you that she Yeah, she was parannoying
and scared that I was going to leave her yea for a friend while we're
all like best of friends. In fact, Laura just called me now while
I'm sitting here talking to you, and our girls are all good friends,
yes, all really good friends, still do stuff together, and your daughter
is at UCLA, yes, which is pretty cool, Yes, pretty amazing.
So anyway, the point is, over the years, though our girls
had did not go to school together, never ye our own friendship stuff going
on, but yours had a special kind of kind of yeah hell with something.
Yeah, so elbe had a friend that Stephanie called hot and cold back
in middle school, and Bella has a friend hot and Cold in high school
now college. They don't go to the same school. But we'll talk about
that on Patreon. Yes, because it's dicey and I don't want to.
Yeah, I'm actually good, really good friends with the parents. Yes,
that's what it gets even diceier exactly. Okay, but before we go,
let's give a shout out to the Family Skeptical, which is a podcast.
Uh okay, sorry, I'm just I was just foundte Lynette sent me,
had to send me hers. But anyway, Family Skeptical is for people that
you know are not raising their kids with any religion and feeling kind of on
that outside about that. Maybe all your friends are raising their kids, you
know, Christian and going to church. Maybe all your friends are Jews,
and maybe you're just like, I'm not down with that kind of thing.
Listen to The Family Skeptical to get some interesting takes that also Kelly from Wilmanfrieda.
They're in Palm Springs and Palm Desert. They have delicious brunch. They
have pop Tart's homemade and eggs Benedict and anyway, you know, you know
the drill. Also Basic Becky Just basic Becky dot com is her website.
Love Basic Becky. I know you'll be calling her again for more T shirts
because Bella is going to do her chair camp again this summer. Yeah.
Yeah. Also, my friend Adam Lerner, he's a car broker. I
got in my car. You know him. He's our other good mutual friend's
husband. He has been helping so many FCOL people. It's hilarious. I
was just with my friend Cecily and Adam came in the room and he's like,
just got another one. Somebody going, Hi, I'm from f Cool.
Can I looking to buy a car? You know? And so he
can help educate you whatever you need. Go to Adam's got a car dot
com and you can contact him through there and his emails on there. And
also so this is Lynette's our friend Mike Gerstein. It's Lynette's BFF. His
slogan is were number one with number two. That's really funny. I love
it so for anyone in the Phoenix metro area and basically all of Maricopa County.
He's a twenty year plumber who can fix anything. He can even help
you over the phone or zoom for all of you di wires. But if
you have any issues call him. He's the real deal. His phone number
is four eight zero six nine six one seven seven seven. And for all
of you realtors in Arizona, he's been running a camera in the main sewer
lines of houses for sale, catching big problems, so give him a call.
I just gave you the number and there you go. All right,
So we'll have more for you on Friday, and please tune in for our
Patreon. You're a parent, now it up. It's that ain't go